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Re:R&D
Those are really fascinating - I found an evolution chart of the alphabet. Fascinating to see how so many letters have evolved from Ancient Egyptian
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No mention of CSOS project in the 90s?
This comment comes from someone who used to volunteer at CSOS (Computer Science Outreach Services) at Oregon State University back from 1990 to 1994. CSOS is what eventually became PEAK, now a commercial Internet provider in Corvallis. I used to work directly with folks like Jason Thorpe (NetBSD), Jason Downs (NetBSD/OpenBSD), Jeremy McDermond, John Sechrest (who oversaw everything... sort of), and a couple other equally important folks but whose surnames slip my mind.
CSOS was an interesting project intended to provide access to networked computers (all UNIX of course) and Internet access to the general community of Corvallis. It consisted consisted mainly of NetBSD boxes of all flavours, particularly on HP300 boxes (a couple did run HP/UX), some Wyse/DEC-like terminals, a very large dial-in modem pool (eventually migrated to a couple Annex devices). I believe there was a machine or two which ran 386BSD as well. There were also some other volunteers who did things like Radio Free RAT, which to my knowledge was the first "Internet radio station" streamed live via MBONE and had some electronica bands like Violet Arcana come to the datacenter/offices for an interview and a brief session. At one point they even had a public IRC server (which was connected to what it now called EFNet; irc.csos.orst.edu). I would provide links to all of these things, but there really isn't much on the web about CSOS; about all you can find are the old machines: jacobs, kira, nyssa, king, and poe.csos.orst.edu.
I was never sure where the funding came from, but I imagine the university was the main source, in addition to members of the community (individuals and companies) giving donations.
My points are that 1) CSOS played a small but important role in the overall development of NetBSD and general Internet and community services (again keep in mind the decade in which this was being done!), and 2) Oregon State has a history of doing things like this. I really did expect to see mention of CSOS in Lance's slides, but I digress.
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Re:(Un)Surprising
"Or was the military too blended in with the civilians?"
You answered your own question, there.
Minutes of the second meeting of the Target Committee
Los Alamos, May 10-11 1945Source: U.S. National Archives, Record Group 77, Records of the Office of the Chief of Engineers, Manhattan Engineer District, TS Manhattan Project File '42-'46, folder 5D Selection of Targets, 2 Notes on Target Committee Meetings.
Copyright Notice: This document is believed to be in the public domain. Its transcription and formatting as an e-text, however, is copyright 1995 by Gene Dannen (danneng@peak.org). This e-text resides on the World-Wide Web at http://www.peak.org/~danneng/decision/targets.html
TOP SECRETAuth: C.O., Site Y, N.M.
Initials:
Date: 12 May 1945
6. Status of TargetsA. Dr. Stearns described the work he had done on target selection. He has surveyed possible targets possessing the following qualification: (1) they be important targets in a large urban area of more than three miles in diameter, (2) they be capable of being damaged effectively by a blast, and (3) they are unlikely to be attacked by next August. Dr. Stearns had a list of five targets which the Air Force would be willing to reserve for our use unless unforeseen circumstances arise. These targets are:
(1) Kyoto - This target is an urban industrial area with a population of 1,000,000. It is the former capital of Japan and many people and industries are now being moved there as other areas are being destroyed. From the psychological point of view there is the advantage that Kyoto is an intellectual center for Japan and the people there are more apt to appreciate the significance of such a weapon as the gadget. (Classified as an AA Target)
(2) Hiroshima - This is an important army depot and port of embarkation in the middle of an urban industrial area. It is a good radar target and it is such a size that a large part of the city could be extensively damaged. There are adjacent hills which are likely to produce a focussing effect which would considerably increase the blast damage. Due to rivers it is not a good incendiary target. (Classified as an AA Target)
(3) Yokohama - This target is an important urban industrial area which has so far been untouched. Industrial activities include aircraft manufacture, machine tools, docks, electrical equipment and oil refineries. As the damage to Tokyo has increased additional industries have moved to Yokohama. It has the disadvantage of the most important target areas being separated by a large body of water and of being in the heaviest anti-aircraft concentration in Japan. For us it has the advantage as an alternate target for use in case of bad weather of being rather far removed from the other targets considered. (Classified as an A Target)
(4) Kokura Arsenal - This is one of the largest arsenals in Japan and is surrounded by urban industrial structures. The arsenal is important for light ordnance, anti-aircraft and beach head defense materials. The dimensions of the arsenal are 4100' x 2000'. The dimensions are such that if the bomb were properly placed full advantage could be taken of the higher pressures immediately underneath the bomb for destroying the more solid structures and at the same time considerable blast damage could be done to more feeble structures further away. (Classified as an A Target)
(5) Niigata - This is a port of embarkation on the N.W. coast of Honshu. Its importance is increasing as other ports are damaged. Machine tool industries are located there and it is a potential center for industrial despersion. It has oil refineries and storage. (Classified as a B Target)
(6) The possibility of bombing the Emperor's palace was discussed. It was agreed that we should not recommend it but that any action for this bombing should come from authorities on military policy. It was agreed that we should obtain information from which we could determine the effectivenes
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Re:All I can say, is ...
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Because US hates fathers
In Russia, unlike in the United States, fathers are not considered inhuman income sources whose existence is not really necessary except to pay child support.
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Re:Anti-religion
You have to become an acolyte to find that out. And I hope you don't mind peanut butter, lots and lots of peanut butter. Are you allergic to penicillin?
I just read an essay on the importance of Dadaism in modern art, hence part of the tone of my posts about the AAFFLACCC, Ltd. -
Inefficient Tax Collector
Sounds like a bizarre gasoline tax where the government spends a pound to collect a penny.
Flush the idea down in the nearest penny house
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Re:AJAX is a retarded term
If you want to be more specific --Adaptive Path, specifically by Jesse James Garrett:
http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/ar chives/000385.php
(it's not worth linking to, and giving them hits for it, though)
And I agree -- the term right up there with 'blog' as terms that need to go. (the only good thing about the term 'blog' is that it's close to 'bog', which seems to suggest the contents of them) -
Not at all surprising
This isn't news to those who strongly believe the best personal computer is one that is conveniently with the user at all times. The concept of a pocket Cray seemed outlandish not many years ago, but it is slowly coming true. As users are increasingly able to access data anywhere, any time, the value of such devices increases exponentially. The laptop computer or terminal of the smallest practical size for user input is likely to become the norm as the cost comes down to the level of desktops.
Among people who looked into the crystal ball years ago, my friend Jeremy Smith did so and offered some interesting insights in his 1991 paper oriented somewhat toward HP handhelds, The Handy Dandy Pocket Dæmon, followed in 1995 with That Would Be Cool, which was more oriented toward HPs. Quite a few of his predictions came true. -
Not at all surprising
This isn't news to those who strongly believe the best personal computer is one that is conveniently with the user at all times. The concept of a pocket Cray seemed outlandish not many years ago, but it is slowly coming true. As users are increasingly able to access data anywhere, any time, the value of such devices increases exponentially. The laptop computer or terminal of the smallest practical size for user input is likely to become the norm as the cost comes down to the level of desktops.
Among people who looked into the crystal ball years ago, my friend Jeremy Smith did so and offered some interesting insights in his 1991 paper oriented somewhat toward HP handhelds, The Handy Dandy Pocket Dæmon, followed in 1995 with That Would Be Cool, which was more oriented toward HPs. Quite a few of his predictions came true. -
Re:Wot? No Theremin?
I was thinking the same thing. The Theramin was invented before 1921.
People in the Dada movement were creating mechanical music (or rather, un-music and noisy stuff) before 1920. Dada has had a pretty heavy influence on the modern industrial scene... -
Re:If the Astros put on Yankees uniforms...I'm an Aussie. Here in Australia, to root means something completely different to what you USAians would mean. Short answer is that yes, I would root for them. In fact, I'd root for anybody...
So what does "root for" mean down under? The British-American dictionary has failed me, and there doesn't seem to be an Aussie-US (or Aussie-British) one.
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In 1991 a friend wrote about convergence in detail
especially with regard to handheld devices: programmable calculators, telephones, PDAs (they didn't exist at the time), and so on. Check it out. In it, he describes the Handy Dandy Pocket Daemon (HDPD) and its functionality. As are many of his musings, it was simultaneously brilliantly insightful and far out. Visionary is the only way I can describe it.
He also wrote a followup article, That Would Be Cool, in 1995.
Whether or not you're an HP handheld enthusiast like Jeremy and me, the articles are well worth reading, perhaps again and again. -
In 1991 a friend wrote about convergence in detail
especially with regard to handheld devices: programmable calculators, telephones, PDAs (they didn't exist at the time), and so on. Check it out. In it, he describes the Handy Dandy Pocket Daemon (HDPD) and its functionality. As are many of his musings, it was simultaneously brilliantly insightful and far out. Visionary is the only way I can describe it.
He also wrote a followup article, That Would Be Cool, in 1995.
Whether or not you're an HP handheld enthusiast like Jeremy and me, the articles are well worth reading, perhaps again and again. -
Both sides have their myths and FUD
Microsoft has their myths that Open Source is less secure, sends jobs to India, and supports every form of -ism from terrorism to communism to dada-ism
Linux has their myths that Linux is perfectly user friendly and just as easy as Windows and has been ever since the first edition of Slackware rolled out, and that Linux has absolutely no usability problems whatsoever and the only thing holding linux back from taking over the mainstream are evil proprietary companies who don't share their stuff.
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Please learn how to use links.
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Please learn how to use links.
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Re:550 Pounds of money?!?!?!?
>What I want to know is, if the British are supposed to use their fancy metric system, why do they use standard units for their money?
They do. It used to be measured in shillings, pennies, guineas, crowns, farthings, groats, florins, nobles, marks, merks, etc, etc. It's now just Pounds (full units) & Pence/Pennies (1/100 of a pound). -
Re:Huh?
Is there an American English (British?) dictionary? I'm inclined to start one...
There's one here.
And according to Google, there's quite a few more.
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Postscript: of course...They always say that the most important statement is given after the P.S.
You know, the RIAA is going to justify their economic injustice, by saying "well, we are just mitigating our losses due to theft, and we aren't going to pay more than we have to."
They're wrong to think that it makes their paying unjustly low wages okay, but you might just be comforted to know that they are using *your* petty evil, copying music illegally, to justify their evil.
It might just be a comforting thought. Or something.
Of course, you justify your petty evil either by saying "but I don't have the money I want" [same justification shoplifters use, and evil corporate directors], or by pointing out that the law goes against natural law -- which it does. It is a granted right, and granted rights usually damage inherent rights.
And that is justified because of other granted rights.
I just have a question, though. Is anybody going to stand up, like me, at least when it comes to their luxuries, and say "the shit stops here"?
At least, if this cycle of evil is going to complete another turn, say "that's life, but I won't be a part of the evil"?
It's easy to condemn others' evil -- but a bit harder, and more important to give up our own.
Just my $2.00.
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Re:spelt? oh this is a riot
Not to be grossly offtopic, but both spellings are correct and incorrect. Traditionally, the commonly accepted past tense & past participle form of "to spell" in English (as in the UK) spelling would be "spelt", where-as the commonly accepted American version would "spelled". It could be argued that "spelt" would be the formal form and "spelled" the informal form (similar to Usted verus Es). However, it is only slashdot and there are some of us that enjoy the butchering of the english language and believe it is part of the reason slashdot has been so sucessful.
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While I agree that in principle the AC's comments were inflammatory and in general added nothing to the discussion, your reply was just as inflammatory only goes to feed the trolls. I only bring this up since browsing your comment history you generally make quite intellegible remarks I believe have contributed more than most to making /. more than "n4tALi3 p0rtM4n's h0t gRitZ". I am also making an active effort to lower the S/N ratio, instead of just whining about it. :)
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Thoughts on BoffinsFor those who don't know, boffin is a slang term for a scientist. Sometimes it also is applied more generally to people who are very bright, technically adept, and slightly odd. It might be used in a cotext similar to 'nerd' or 'geek', though it has a friendlier tone.
The term is most popular in the United Kingdom and some of its former colonies (not Canada, however.) In the United States, the only place you're likely to hear it is on imported television, particularly the series Junkyard Wars (a.k.a. Scrapheap Challenge in the U.K.; it runs on Wednesday nights on TLC.) On that note, host Cathy Rogers can call me whatever she wants. Junkyward Wars also exposes the world to words like bodge (v., n., syn. kludge) and brill (adj. syn. Awesome! Derived from 'brilliant'). For further Britishisms, refer to the British-American Dictionary.
To close, then. I'm a boffin, and proud of it. If the Australians are too uptight to recognize a compliment when they hear one--well, they can sod off.
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Re:How many ducks
There is, of course, a perfectly valid reason, but the disembodied spirit of Grover Cleveland demands worcestershire sauce.
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von Braun's moral courage
What do you think became of people who resigned, proved incompetent, became alcoholics, or had nervous breakdowns
... Probably ... potentially dangerous ...Let me see if I have this right. Von Braun was a card carrying Nazi wasn't he? We are not talking about an innocent civilian. We have a guy, who is head of weapons development programs that caused thousands of deaths, correct? Or possibly tens of thousands, as one of the other contributors to this thread said that many slave labourers were worked to death. We have this weapons developer, and you defend him because he might have been afraid to quit?
I think that the war criminals should have and in most cases were tried and punished appropriately by the allies.
You really should read Szilard's "My trial as a War Criminal". It is set in 1949. The Soviets conquer America in a sneak germ warfare attack. President Truman, Secretary of War Stimson and Secretary of State Byrnes are to stand trial for their decision to drop the bomb. Szilard stands trial for his role in the development of the bomb. (After the Soviets offer him the same deal the Americans offered von Braun -- charges dropped if he moved to the Soviet Union, and worked on their weapons programs.)
Szilard is, I believe, correct to believe he and Truman would have stood trial under those circumstances. Truman is convicted of violating the 'customs of war', because prior to Hiroshima, it wasn't 'customary' to drop atomic bombs on cities.
And my interpretation would be that Szilard thought the Nuremberg trials were about vengeance, not justice. Germany and Yugoslavia had laws, which presumably included laws against kidnapping, rape, murder. Should those who ordered or committed kidnapping, rape or murder stand trial under the laws of their own nation? Or the nation where the crimes were committed?
If the reasons we didn't trust the Germans, Japanese to conduct trials for the crimes committed on their territory is that we don't trust it will result in a satisfactory verdict or sentence, then were the trials about justice, or vengeance?
If the war trials were truly just then Allied soldiers who committed war crimes should also have stood trial. Saving Private Ryan portrayed Americans shooting prisoners who had already surrendered. That is a war crime. I know these kinds of incidents happened -- maybe not on Omaha beach, but they did happen.
Some probably escaped and alot of people whose role was ambiguous didn't get punished. I don't personally think that Von Braun needed to be punished.
Are you suggesting that von Braun shouldn't have stood trial in Germany because his role was ambiguous? Isn't that what a trial is for? Or are you suggesting that von Braun shouldn't be punished because some other criminals slipped away unpunished?And geoswan let me ask you this, when you grow up what will it be, hawaii or braces for the kids???
Mr or Ms Anonymous Coward, I have had occasions in my life where I have had my courage tested. I witnessed what appeared to be Police Brutality from my office window some time ago. I reported it to the Police Complaints Commision. Which resulted in having the investigator lean on me, and try to intimidate me. He made clear that before he investigated his fellow officers he was going to investigate me. In spite of this pressure I was dogged in my pursuit of the truth. I stuck to my principles. It took five months to learn what had really happened. Yes, frankly, it was frightening.No, this test wasn't nearly as challenging as those I believe von Braun should have faced. But then I didn't choose to manage a huge weapons development program.
I find it a bit ironic that you should question my courage, when you choose to post as an "anonymous coward".
About von Braun's status as a Nazi party member -- I was told this by a buddy of mine, who was a big fan of space exploration. He had read a biography of VB, and explained he wasn't really a Nazi. He just wanted to make rockets. He told me VB joined the Nazi party just because he thought it would make it easier for him to use his political pull to enable him to build rockets. My buddies interpretation was that VB was taking advantage of the Nazis.
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Heroic scientists, who took a moral stand...
Not to necessarily defend von Braun, but I suspect that few of the people who employed him were stupid. Odious genocidal maniacs, but not so stupid as to fall for any of those hoary old tricks.
I am going to repeat my main point. Von Braun was prepared to risk his life to make a point. And the point he risked it to make was that he thought the Nazis were wasting money, not that they were wasting lives.
You suggest that most senior Nazis weren't stupid? Did you check out the link to the brief biography of Rudolph Hess? Clearly nutty as a fruit-cake.
Jacob Bronowski describes how one of the senior Nazis, Goebbels or Himmler IIRC, wanted to take Heisenberg away from atomic research to try to prove, once and for all, that the stars are made of ice.
Look at the German research into atomic weapons. It was a complete failure, but no one was shot, or thrown in prison. In his book "Surely you are joking Mr Feynman" Richard Feynman describes how he supervised a team of young Army enlisted guys, who were chosen right out of basic training because they had scientific ability. These guys were human calculators, and ran punched cards through big mechanical calculators, to perform the very labourious calculations necessary to determine the amount of Fissile material needed to make a bomb. Heisenberg's group did the same calculation, but their answer was wildly off. They thought a bomb would require hundreds of kilograms of U235, not a kilogram or two.
The suggestion has been made that Heisenberg, or someone in his group, purposely fouled up the calculation.
If Leo Szilard hadn't escaped from Germany one step ahead of the Nazis do you think that he would have refused to work on German weapons research? Szilard circulated petition to Truman among the other scientists pleading with him forgo dropping the bomb on a Japanese city before it had been demonstrated to the Japanese high command.
Szilard gave up Physics after the war. He wrote some science fiction. This collection includes the short story "My Trial as a War Criminal", which I will strongly recommend...
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Heroic scientists, who took a moral stand...
Not to necessarily defend von Braun, but I suspect that few of the people who employed him were stupid. Odious genocidal maniacs, but not so stupid as to fall for any of those hoary old tricks.
I am going to repeat my main point. Von Braun was prepared to risk his life to make a point. And the point he risked it to make was that he thought the Nazis were wasting money, not that they were wasting lives.
You suggest that most senior Nazis weren't stupid? Did you check out the link to the brief biography of Rudolph Hess? Clearly nutty as a fruit-cake.
Jacob Bronowski describes how one of the senior Nazis, Goebbels or Himmler IIRC, wanted to take Heisenberg away from atomic research to try to prove, once and for all, that the stars are made of ice.
Look at the German research into atomic weapons. It was a complete failure, but no one was shot, or thrown in prison. In his book "Surely you are joking Mr Feynman" Richard Feynman describes how he supervised a team of young Army enlisted guys, who were chosen right out of basic training because they had scientific ability. These guys were human calculators, and ran punched cards through big mechanical calculators, to perform the very labourious calculations necessary to determine the amount of Fissile material needed to make a bomb. Heisenberg's group did the same calculation, but their answer was wildly off. They thought a bomb would require hundreds of kilograms of U235, not a kilogram or two.
The suggestion has been made that Heisenberg, or someone in his group, purposely fouled up the calculation.
If Leo Szilard hadn't escaped from Germany one step ahead of the Nazis do you think that he would have refused to work on German weapons research? Szilard circulated petition to Truman among the other scientists pleading with him forgo dropping the bomb on a Japanese city before it had been demonstrated to the Japanese high command.
Szilard gave up Physics after the war. He wrote some science fiction. This collection includes the short story "My Trial as a War Criminal", which I will strongly recommend...
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Try this: (Simple count-down timer code.)
Not to belabor the bleeding obvious or anything... But, back when I played EverQuest, I found I had a duty cycle (time actively playing vs time spent sitting there staring at the screen) of about 20%. (Generally 8+ minutes down to 2 minutes of fun. There's a reason I quit the game.) So I wrote this quick timer script to let me know when it was time to stop what I was doing and play the game again.
Nowadays, all I use it for is to time my laundry... Perhaps it would be of use to you? Particularly when combined with:
date "+%H"
date "+%M"
date "+%S"For output: Run the soundcard line-out into your PA system with a patch-cord.
Sound files: I'm using
.snd files from an old NeXT archive I found on the net, (http://www.peak.org/next/sound/soundfiles/), which is why I need to pass "-t .au" to play. You could always just record your own...#!/bin/tcsh -f
# This will clear the screen in an X-TERM.
# Note: ^[ is a single character -- the ESCAPE character.
echo -n "^[[H^[[2J"
set TIMES = ""
set SOUNDS = ""
while ( $#argv > 0 )
if ( $1 =~ *.snd ) then
set SOUNDS = ( ${SOUNDS} $1 )
else
set TIMES = ( $TIMES $1 )
endif
shift
end
if ( "x${TIMES}" == "x" ) then
set COUNT = 500
else if ( ${#TIMES} == 1 ) then
set COUNT = ${TIMES[1]}
else if ( ${#TIMES} == 2 ) then
@ COUNT = ( ${TIMES[1]} * 60 ) + ${TIMES[2]}
else
if ( ${#TIMES} > 3 ) echo "Warning Ignoring extra numbers: ${TIMES[4-]}"
@ COUNT = ( ${TIMES[1]} * 3600 ) + ( ${TIMES[2]} * 60 ) + ${TIMES[3]}
endif
while ( ${COUNT} >= 0 )
@ HOURS = ${COUNT} / 3600
@ MINUTES = ( ${COUNT} % 3600 ) / 60
@ SECONDS = ${COUNT} % 60
echo -n " "
if ( ${HOURS} > 0 ) echo -n "${HOURS}:"
echo -n "${MINUTES}:${SECONDS}"
echo -n " "
echo -n "(${COUNT})"
echo -n " "
echo -n "\r"
sleep 1
@ COUNT --
end
echo ""
if ( "x${SOUNDS}" == "x" ) then
echo "\a"
echo "\a"
else
foreach SOUND ( ${SOUNDS} )
play -t .au ${SOUND}
end
endif
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This is filler to bring up the average number of characters per line to avoid the slashdot/slashcode lameness filter. What an annoying piece of crud. I have to sit here typing endless worthless characters, and you need to pay for the bandwidth for them, all so my entry won't be considered lame. La de da... Oh what to say. How about griping about how Slashcode doesn't support the < PRE > HTML tag, which makes it such a pain to enter properly indented code... Oh well. At least it has < TT >, without which things would really be difficult. Ok. Is that enough nonsense yet? Nope. Not yet. Still needs more. Oh what to say. What to say... Running out of things to say here... Do you guys have any thoughts? Probably not... Ok. Lets try again... Still nothing. Needs yet more characters. And more. And more. Ok. Repeating entire line so far... This is filler to bring up the average number of characters per line to avoid the slashdot/slashcode lameness filter. What an annoying piece of crud. I have to sit here typing endless worthless characters, and you need to pay for the bandwidth for them, all so my entry won't be considered lame. La de da... Oh what to say. How about griping about how Slashcode doesn't support the < PRE > HTML tag, which makes it such a pain to enter properly indented code... Oh well. At least it has < TT >, without which things would really be difficult. Ok. Is that enough nonsense yet? Nope. Not yet. Still needs more. Oh what to say. What to say... Running out of things to say here... Do you guys have any thoughts? Probably not... Ok. Lets try again... Still nothing. Needs yet more characters. And more. And more. Ok. Repeating entire line so far... -
Join forces with an Oregon LUG
This is being discussed quite a bit on several of the Oregon LUGs. If you're in Oregon (or nearby) and would like to help, please join forces with one of these existing groups.
http://pdxlinux.org
http://lug.peak.org
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Re:Does anybody remember Zila ?
Morph 1.1
AD 13-Nov-1996:
What is morphing?
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Transformations between images. Run the examples *.xmovie with Motion.app (included) or Xanthus Craftman and you will get the picture :~)
http://www.peak.org/ftp/pub/next/apps/graphics/mis c/
Features:
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- Morphing between still images.
- Output: .xmovie movies. (Really just a catalog with tiffs)
- Multihost rendering.
- Several input formats (TIFF, EPS, RIB...)
- Online help.
- Runs on NEXTSTEP3.2 on NeXT, Intel, SPARC and HP PA-RISC hardware. -
Other OS X tips
While there are scads of OS X "tips" sites, most of which are newbie unix introductions, I have found the following to be very useful with a wide variety of tips and other neat hacks:
http://www.ResExcellence.com/osx/index.shtml
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Re:One more step...
I looked up Klatt, like the AC mentioned - here are some links for the rest of us...
GPL'd Klatt Synth Source
RSynth Speech Synthesizer - Klatt based synth - go to /soundapps to download gzipped code
KPE80 - A Klatt Synthesiser and Parameter Editor
Worldcom - Generation Duh! -
Re:There's a lot of work to be doneWhat was "the" word processor for NeXTStep? Was there one? Does it still exist, and if so, who owns it?
Well, there was FrameMaker. I'd love to see that for Mac OS X... besides that, there was a whole set of productivity applications from LightHouse Design.
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Omniweb or X11Two general directions. Go get Omniweb or another NeXT based browser from a respectable archive (ftp://ftp.peak.org/next-ftp/next/apps/internet/w
w w/) or run a X client/server pair on the box (strangely VNC doesn't seem to be available, but that might be worth further research: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/) and try and get mozilla or some other 'modern' browser running using X for the graphical display. It's BSD deep under all that fancy exterior and display-level postscript, and it will run X11 with some help (ftp://ftp.peak.org/next-ftp/next/X-for-NeXT/).Sadly, lack of a decent browser is what pushed me from using my nice NeXT cube with a 19" monitor to a Linux box with a 13" monitor around '96.
- Mike
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Omniweb or X11Two general directions. Go get Omniweb or another NeXT based browser from a respectable archive (ftp://ftp.peak.org/next-ftp/next/apps/internet/w
w w/) or run a X client/server pair on the box (strangely VNC doesn't seem to be available, but that might be worth further research: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/) and try and get mozilla or some other 'modern' browser running using X for the graphical display. It's BSD deep under all that fancy exterior and display-level postscript, and it will run X11 with some help (ftp://ftp.peak.org/next-ftp/next/X-for-NeXT/).Sadly, lack of a decent browser is what pushed me from using my nice NeXT cube with a 19" monitor to a Linux box with a 13" monitor around '96.
- Mike
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Re:I have never read the books...
Does this mean that I am not a geek? I am surprised Katz hasn't written on the subject.
:)I was an intern at Hewlett-Packard, working with Jim Donnelly, a former HP calculator engineer (extremely cool guy, BTW). Once, we're walking with another engineer, and the other engineer says something about Bistromathics. Jim takes it in stride, but I'm lost.
I ask, "What's Bistromathics?"
Jim and the other engineer just sort of look at each other, and Jim wonders aloud how he's going to explain this. "Haven't you ever read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy before?"
It dawns on me: "Oh, that Bistromathics."
This had a point. I promise: Douglas Adams is pretty much required reading for any self-respecting geek.
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Re:MacOS X support?
As soon as I do some more testing, I'll get a Mac OS X Server
.pkg package up on next-ftp.peak.org. My Samba 2.0.4b and 2.0.5a packages are already up there, including instructions for compiling it yourself.
Another place to look for software for Mac OS X Server is Stepwise's Softrak service.
If you are in a hurry, the just copy the config.guess and the config.sub from
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Re:MacOS X support?
As soon as I do some more testing, I'll get a Mac OS X Server
.pkg package up on next-ftp.peak.org. My Samba 2.0.4b and 2.0.5a packages are already up there, including instructions for compiling it yourself.
Another place to look for software for Mac OS X Server is Stepwise's Softrak service.
If you are in a hurry, the just copy the config.guess and the config.sub from
/usr/libexec to replace the ones given in the Samba distribution. Configuring the smb.conf and other Samba issues are pretty much the same as other platforms. -
Re:MacOS X support?
As soon as I do some more testing, I'll get a Mac OS X Server
.pkg package up on next-ftp.peak.org. My Samba 2.0.4b and 2.0.5a packages are already up there, including instructions for compiling it yourself.
Another place to look for software for Mac OS X Server is Stepwise's Softrak service.
If you are in a hurry, the just copy the config.guess and the config.sub from
/usr/libexec to replace the ones given in the Samba distribution. Configuring the smb.conf and other Samba issues are pretty much the same as other platforms. -
Re:Why bother with Linux, NT or Solaris?
Posted by ChristianC:
You might be interested to know that there is a version of Samba 2 for OS X Server here