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yeah, I did mean battery-powered cars. slip of the tongue there.

I just realised, my rant was somewhat indiscriminating. I'm aware that biodiesel can be gained from animal fat and the like. I think being annoyed that many politicians are willing to sacrifice essentials for commodities blind sided me there. whilst biodiesel would certainly make us less dependent on oil, it still isn't a long term solution for environmental problems, seeing as the emissions are as dirty if not dirtier (higher micro-particle count, etc).
the leading automobile association here (Germany, ADAC) advises not to use biodiesel in modern diesel cars. I forget the technicalities, but some components get clogged from the thicker and less pure biodiesel, forcing a more frequent exchange of these parts and shortening the life span of the vehicle. I do, however, take solace in the fact, that when the oil wells run dry, we will have an alternative for the transition period.

I agree with your stance on hydrogen - it is unsafe and inefficient. But as a type of capacitor that can use basically any form of power to be created, it's a great step forward.
I like your idea about synth'ed hydrocarbons. I know little about chemistry, sounds like something I should read up on.

I just remembered why I actually posted in the first place. The air powered car! it runs on compressed air! there might've even been a /. story about it. here are some googly hits:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4217016.html
http://www.mdi.lu/english/
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Air_car_runs_on_compressed_air_0104.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=car+that+runs+on+compressed+air&btnG=Search
how about that then? all the benefits of hydrogen, very few of the drawbacks.

He didn't even attempt to negotiate with McCain or anyone.

Yes, he did.

Obama's spokesman Bill Burton said "and it was immediately clear that McCain's campaign had no interest in the possibility of an agreement.".

Now, you can feel free to dispute how much Obama pursued it, but, frankly, at this point you're rather obviously uninformed about the facts. There was an attempt made, and it failed.

McCain could have explained a proposal he had, but never bothered to do so, simply because there's no way he would have been willing to restrict the 527s, which Obama repeatedly said would be part of the deal.

I appreciate that it seems like Barrack Obmaha's heart is in the right place. I dont see anything changing anytime soon since he has no interest in changing the system. We still have a corrupt financial system We have questions about the 9/11 attacks that are not being answered , We have the FISA bill that is most likley being used to spy on political dissidents, We have a 100 mile Constitution Free zone where you can be stopped and asked to prove your citizenship and have your belongings searched without due process, We have a debate that troops might be stationed in the US to be mobilized for planned civil unrest, If any of you are on the change movement my suggestion would be to press our government to address these issues. Lets see how far Obhama is really willing to go. so far he has supported the FISA bill and then some how suggested that he was always for it when he was against it in the beginning of his running. People need to stop playing the two party game and force independence in this country. Both Democrats and Republicans are part of the same coin and money rules this country instead of people.

You pick a well thought out, moderate view

There is only one moderate view: it's none of your damn business if gay couples decide to get married, anymore than it is your business that inter-racial couples get married, which also used to be illegal.

Every time someone professes to be an Obama supporter, ask them to name/describe three of his policies. Out of several dozen people I've asked, every one of them tells me he's the new hope, that he's a stable guy, that he's not old... and ONE has been able to actually name three policies. Obama has perfected saying absolutely nothing and all indicators imply he's going to win because of it.

Then you're an idiot that hasn't talked to very many people. Quick, name all of Woodrow Wilson's cabinet members. If you can't do it right now, off the top of your head, it means they didn't exist.

McCain pisses off the liberals by being a conservative, the conservatives by being a free thinker and made the mistake of picking a VP who keeps having opinions about everything, whether they fit the platform or not... and is on course to lose because of it.

More garbage. McCain pisses people off because he's an incompetent flip flopping hot head who can't make a single attack on Obama that doesn't blow back into his hypocritical face.

And Palin? She makes George W. Bush look like a knowledgeable, experienced polititican.

The N.S.A. intercepts EVERYTHING including domestic.

P.S.: John McCain pals around with radicals.

Sincerely,
Kilgore Trout

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I just watched the video last night. I don't remember any political candidate being mentioned, and I was waiting to pounce on any such event.

You mean apart from the "smears" attempting to say that one of the two candidates is Muslim? Put together, its insinuating that he's a head chopping radical. If this weren't attempting to affect the election, why was it only being sent to "swing state" voters?

I'm working with a nice young lady from India today. I have conversations with the Korean lady across the aisle almost daily (even though she works in different group). A Vietnamese gentleman trained me for my current position. I'm Native American (I would say Indian, but that would bring confusion with the first sentence of this paragraph), and my teammate is white.

You can't use the "I too have multicultural friends, and that keeps me from being a racist" defense.

I would say that it is you that needs to get over your 1950's view of American race relations. The horribly racist and xenophobic image comes from being force-fed stories of the actions of a very small minority.

So, Americans aren't racist at all? And we're not xenophobic at all?

On the other hand, the movie, Obsession, has extensive clips from Muslim leaders openly calling for murder of non-Muslim peoples. They have clips of this being aired by Muslim broadcaster Al-Jazeerah (sp?). Another poster called the video one-sided. The movie claimed 15% of the Muslim population as believing that violence is a valid way to spread the Muslim faith.

So, a partisan think tank comes up with a movie designed to scare the shit out of people, and you believe their "15%" statistic, which isn't backed up *anywhere*? And the leaders you speak of .. their rhetoric is any different than the people here who would love to kill all Iranians?

It said most Muslims believe the extremist to be crazy wackos (my term), but most are held in check by fear.

Yes, and black people are going to kill whitey, but are afraid of the man. That's also not supported by anything.

I, for one, can't blame them for remaining quiet. We've seen bombings all over the place, most of them done by Muslims.

You're referring to the active warzone in Iraq, or elsewhere? Perhaps we can blame the attacks in Georgia on the Muslims as well?

Being open to everyone is cool, until they start strapping on the explosive vests. So, having said that, how do I walk the line between being open and not getting blown to pieces?

And which particular movie were you watching when you thought of the "explosive vests"? How many non-warzone bombings have taken place with "explosive vests"? Look, it's okay to be scared, but blaming a large group of people for the actions of a very small minority ... is called racism.

I'm going to assume this is a troll, since it's very poorly backed up.

Yesterday I received a DVD in the mail from an obscure group known as the "Clarion Fund." It was a hatchet job meant to scare people about the evils of muslim extremism.... The shocking part was that they somehow had my full name on the address label.... The joys of living in the swing state of VA....

This was reported on a little while ago in at least one online publication. It was called "Obsession".

I think when we get around to admitting that we're horribly racist and xenophobic in America, we'll be better off than that "open to everyone" crap we try to peddle to the rest of the world.

The very idea (demonstrably false though it may be) that a major party candidate is a Muslim shouldn't be a detractor from them holding the presidency, but as it has been used as a smear...

It probably doesn't make the machines look any better than the report on Sequoia machines done by the California Secretary of State (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_vsr.htm) or the recent followup done by UCSB, including a video showing how even a paper trail version can be compromised (http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~seclab/projects/voting/).

We know these machines are garbage, are easily manipulated, compromise the determination of the "consent of the governed", and thereby are threats to our democracy.

Tampering with voting machines and voting result reporting has been the basis of George Bush's presidency and has led to Republican victories in senate and governorship elections. For example, look at
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Republican_IT_consultant_subpoenaed_in_case_0929.html
  and
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/Documents_reveal_Georgia_was_warned_of_0730.html
  and

http://web6.duc.auburn.edu/~gundljh/Baldwin.pdf

It will probably take many years to discover the scope of Republican election fraud. Eventually, history will record that banking deregulation, unaffordable tax cuts for the wealthy, failure to pursue alternative energy development (as a favor to the oil and gas industry), and many other of our nation's problems had their roots in voting machine manipulation.

It probably doesn't make the machines look any better than the report on Sequoia machines done by the California Secretary of State (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_vsr.htm) or the recent followup done by UCSB, including a video showing how even a paper trail version can be compromised (http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~seclab/projects/voting/).

We know these machines are garbage, are easily manipulated, compromise the determination of the "consent of the governed", and thereby are threats to our democracy.

Tampering with voting machines and voting result reporting has been the basis of George Bush's presidency and has led to Republican victories in senate and governorship elections. For example, look at
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Republican_IT_consultant_subpoenaed_in_case_0929.html
  and
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/Documents_reveal_Georgia_was_warned_of_0730.html
  and

http://web6.duc.auburn.edu/~gundljh/Baldwin.pdf

It will probably take many years to discover the scope of Republican election fraud. Eventually, history will record that banking deregulation, unaffordable tax cuts for the wealthy, failure to pursue alternative energy development (as a favor to the oil and gas industry), and many other of our nation's problems had their roots in voting machine manipulation.

How about the hordes of disgruntled Hillary supporters who feel slighted by the mainstream media's sexist treatment of her during the primary campaign, who are now planning to vote for McCain out of spite? It's not because of anything Obama said or did, and has absolutely nothing to do with policy issues; they're personally offended that so many Democrats didn't vote for a woman. Running to McCain with complete disregard for his policies is completely insane, but that's what they're doing, and his selection of Sarah Palin as his runningmate only reaffirms (in their minds) that McCain is the right choice.

(I absolutely do not deny that there was sexism in the media coverage. A quick Google search found this example, which I agree is pretty funny, but I have trouble imagining a group of reporters talking about a male candidate's clothes in this way. People were talking about Hillary in ways they would never talk about a male candidate. My extreme distrust of Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with her gender.)

Bush quietly seeks to make war powers permanent, by declaring indefinite state of war

Um, the one country I know of with close to free market medicine has by far the highest medical costs.

Would that country happen to be the US? Though most people don't know or realize it the US there is no free market in health or medical care. John McCain's proposal would bring it closer though. During World War II the US federal government passed wage control laws, employers weren't allowed to offer employees more pay. However this created a problem for employers, prospective employees demanded more than they could pay. To make up for this the government allowed employers to offer health insurance to employees and gave businesses that did tax breaks Some who's employer does not offer insurance, many can't afford it, and those who are self employed do not get those tax breaks. However McCain's plan would allow everybody to get tax breaks when they buy their own insurance. Employer provided health insurance can cost the employer thousands of dollars. However with these breaks employers could pay employees more, say $3000 which should be less than health insurance cost some employers, so more people could shop for private insurance policies, and with more people thus shopping insurance policy issuers would lower their prices. People complain about competition in the labor pool, such as complaining when US employers offshore outsource jobs to China but they refuse to admit the same mechanism will work for health insurance as well.

Also with a free market more neighborhood walk-in clinics could be opened. Instead of a clinic needing a bunch of doctors when they are open, some Nurse Practitioners and Physician assistants can be practice medicine under fewer physicians reducing costs. People could also form Health Coops easier.

All of these would help reduce the cost of health care.

A free market in medicine has an incentive for you to be sick so you are handing over money

Just as people go into engineering or IT because they want to, people also go into medicine because they want to. Not everybody has a profit motive for going into medicine.

In a free market medicines that don't cure but simply prolong life expectancy are the most desirable drugs.

In a free market it's the patient's decision on what drugs to take, and with drug data available they can make their own informed decision. For instance when I was given prescriptions from my doc, I'd ask the doc questions about the drug. Then I'd look it up in the Physicians Deck reference, PDR. After knowing more about a drug, if I wanted to I could ask more about side effects or about other drugs if I still had questions. In other words I actively participated in my own health care.

Free Market economics is not magic pixie dust. Milton Friedman was almost entirely correct about his observations, The usefulness of his conclusions vary based to what type of world you want to live in.

I agree a free market isn't pixie dust. However I distrust business a lot less than I distrust government. Except maybe tobacco I know of no business or industry that has killed more people than governments have. In the 20th century alone governments have killed more than 70.8 million people. I seriously doubt businesses have killed a fraction of that. That I know of the largest case, number of people dying at one tyme, because of a business is Union Carbide's accident, which was not an accident, in Bhupal, India which killed about 20,000 according to the wiki article.

I don't want to see drug dealers and hookers on my street corner,

And I don't want people locked up when they aren't harming anyone else, especially

A trillion dollars a year? If you are trying to make points with numbers and there is no question it is costing a lot, you should probably use the right numbers. The Iraq war has cost a little over $500 billion to date, over five years

You may want to check your facts. A quick search returned a "Washington Post" article saying "The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More". That's less than GP's trillion dollars a year but much more than your "little over $500 billion to date". "therawstory" has a breakdown of the costs.

Falcon

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/BREAKING_NIST_%3CI%3Efinally%3CI%3E_poses_theory_on_0821.html

As federal agency declares 'new phenomenon' downed WTC 7, activists cry foul

According to a federal agency report released Thursday, a "new phenomenon" known as thermal expansion was directly responsible for the mysterious collapse of World Trade Center 7 on Sept. 11, 2001.

This study, posed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology -- a federal scientific agency which promotes technical industrial standards -- marks the first 'official' government theory on the collapse.

The building's demise occurred some seven hours after the twin towers collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001, and has been the source of numerous conspiracy theories key to the "9/11 Truth" movement, most of which argue that the symmetrical, seven-second collapse was brought about by a controlled demolition.

Dr. Shyam Sunder, director of Institute's building and fire research laboratory, oversaw the government's three-year research efforts. The report aims to disprove the controlled demolition argument.

However, Richard Gage, founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and a member of the American Institute of Architects, doesn't believe a word of the theory.

His group, which has swelled to over 400 architectural and engineering professionals, immediately responded to the Institute's claim in a press conference.

"Tons of [molten metal] was found 21 days after the attack," said Gage in an interview with a Vancouver, Canada television station. "Steel doesn't begin to melt until 2,700 degrees, which is much hotter than what these fires could have caused."

"There are holes in this story that you can drive a truck through," Gage added during the press conference. His group asserts that thermite, a steel cutting agent, was used to bring the building down.

Dr. Sunder disagreed.

"We conducted the study without bias, without interference from anyone," said Dr. Sunder. "We have only one single-minded goal in this effort."

While the Institute said it considered the possibility of a controlled demolition taking place at WTC 7, the notion was dismissed due to the absence of any recordings of an explosion sound.

Thermite, however, does not make an explosion sound. And while this was raised to Dr. Sunder in the media's Q&A session, he dismissed it as impossible.

"FEMA found it," said Gage. "Dr. Steven Jones found it, in the dust that landed in the entire area of lower Manhattan. And he finds it in the chunks of previously molten metal [from the towers]."

Specifically, in Appendix C of its World Trade Center Building Performance Study, FEMA claimed:

Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel... The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified.

Yet, no study of the mysterious sulfur or melted steel was included in the NIST report.

After New York City officials cut off the water main to the tower Sept. 11, 2001, the building's sprinkler system was unable to function, Dr. Sunder said. This allowed fires across 10 floors to burn uncontrolled for nearly seven hours.

The Institute asserts that due to the lack of water supply, an "extraordinary event" occurred, and for the first time ever, steel expanding due to heat from the flames caused columns to separate from structural concrete. Column 79 was the first to fail, according to the report, which brought about a quick succession of failures in adjoining columns.

"Thermal expansion of

Yeah, the US loves free speech. That's why we set up fenced-in free speech zones at political conventions. And how about the fact that in two years the FBI has issued more than 143,000 National Security Letters, that include a provision that makes it illegal for the recipient of the letter to discuss the letter with anyone? America may love free speech, but its government, not so much.

You know for all the flak we give the traditional media, at least they don't have headlines like this.

Yeah, they just have headlines like this instead. And they focus on Paris Hilton and/or Britney Spears at a time when our country is at war.

Thank god for PBS.....

Then you hear stories like the one about the 16 year old kid with the broken back who was tasered 19 times by the police for failing to stand up when ordered

John McCain has had his share of flip flops, as document in this Keith Olbermann clip. It's pretty hilarious because the clip ends by reading a statement from McCain that his viewpoints are evolving, and then noting that McCain was for evolution, and now against evolution. It is pretty well done.

I was donating fairly regularly to Mr. Obama for his quest for Presidency. I urge those that were doing the same to move their future donations from Mr. Obama and the DNC to the ACLU, which is vowing to fight FISA and the immunity in court.

... the governor of Louisiana is one of the front-runners for McCain's VP spot. The guy famously wrote that he was part of an exorcism and thinks that intelligent design is viable science. He's a real fucking nut-case.

YES:

The government has not only been intercepting international communications — they've also been intercepting communications that begin and end inside the USA. Even if you've never phoned or emailed outside the US, it's likely that communications you've made have been intercepted by the Bush administration under this program.

We know this through a careful technical analysis of the evidence provided to EFF by whistleblower and former AT&T employee Mark Klein. (You can read the analysis [PDF] and see the evidence [PDF] for yourself.) A March 2008 article in the Wall Street Journal confirmed the program's domestic focus.

Folks, call Congress, it's not too late!

=Tim=
EFF

What kind of monsters would use land mines?

You called?

First of all, I'm not sure why this is "news for nerds", but I'll readily concede that it is "stuff that matters".

Obama may have the nomination, but someone really ought to tell Hillary. Last night, during her non-concession speech, she stated that she's "making no decisions tonight". Today I heard on NPR that she is "open to the Vice-Presidential spot", even though she may not take it...she "just wants to be considered".

Sweet Zombie Jesus...what will it take to make this woman go away???

He's a self-described liberal that cheered on our Iraq warmongering, providing the Bush administration with the kind of media cover they need. His social commentary is equally misguided, and as such, he's a pundit without a real audience. He's been unapologetic on his cheerleading, wishing upon a star for a 3rd party (built on the "centrism" and "bipartisanship" of Joe Lieberman and John McCain). In short, an idiot.

He's a self-described liberal that cheered on our Iraq warmongering, providing the Bush administration with the kind of media cover they need. His social commentary is equally misguided, and as such, he's a pundit without a real audience. He's been unapologetic on his cheerleading, wishing upon a star for a 3rd party (built on the "centrism" and "bipartisanship" of Joe Lieberman and John McCain). In short, an idiot.

However, note this entry in the American Library Association's policy manual:

53.4 Governmental Intimidation

The American Library Association opposes any use of governmental prerogatives that lead to the intimidation of individuals or groups and discourages them from exercising the right of free expression as guaranteed by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. ALA encourages resistance to such abuse of governmental power and supports those against whom such governmental power has been employed.

Unfortunately, you have to give a member ID to read the ALA policy manual (WTF?).

The Moody memos offer daily direction to the news staff about how they're to report stories. An example is a memo telling them, in reference to the President, "His political courage and tactical cunning ar[e] [wo]rth noting in our reporting through the day". Collection of Fox News memos. A classic Moody memo.

The author of the Willie Horton ad is now the president of Fox News.

then you get away with dubious behaviour as a "folly of youth"

You see if you band together, call yourself a "company" you can install spyware/adware and "hack" peoples computers without any repercussions at all!

just ask 121media, Zango, IAC, Sony

If a popular president has an extramarital affair, the press shows no fear and shouts it from the rooftops night and day.

But if the least popular president on record (backed by his administration) maintains that he has the inherent authority to kidnap US citizens at will and make them watch while his goons crush their children's testicles, the "free press" covers his butt so well that if you blink you'll miss the story.

I think you're trying to attribute to politics something that has a rather simple alternative explanation. In the eyes of the public (and therefore the press):

Salacious scandal >>> any other type of scandal

Ok, let's pick a salacious scandal then. Surely you remember these stories:

1. The White House was caught sneaking a fake reporter in to ask softball questions at White House press breifings
2. Although he was a fake journalist it turned out he was a real bona fide male prostitute
3. It then came to light that, according to White House visitor logs, he had visited the White House on dozens of days when there were no press functions, and sometimes did not check out till the next day
4. After a protracted period of wrangling during which the administration claimed White House visitor logs were protected by executive privilege a court finally ordered the White House to turn over its visitor logs almost a year ago
5. The White House is still refusing to let anyone see their visitor logs, even though previous presidents considered them open public records.

So where's the media circus? Why haven't we heard about this to the blue dress and blood on the glove level that other similar stories get? Why do they just report it tiny bits and pieces and then let each one fade quietly into the night?

--MarkusQ

Is this kind of the same as when they used Jeff Gannon or was he just lucky?

Not being from New York I didn't know much about the man, so I checked, and it turns out he's a Democrat. So ever since yesterday I've been wondering if this was an attempt to bring down the Democratic Governor of a key state, like they did in Alabama. I'll be curious to see how much media complacency there is in the New York case.

But, McCain is already in the center ... So, instead, they're going to trot out a tried-and-true political tactic: character assassination

He's doing a good job of that on himself with his bomb bomb Iran malarkey.
That's what passes for center in the USA? Jesus wept.

See the link for the text of the letter from Congressman Reyes to the President. He sums up all of the information that those of us following the issue already know. It is a good primer if you're just learning about it. It is also a good read if you want to smile at a Congressman standing up for the American people and telling the President to go fuck himself... in a politically correct way.

Silvestre Reyes is the hero of this. here is a link to the letter he sent the bushenfurer, and the last paragraph (the best imho). we need more ppl like him that understand the constitution is not just a 'goddamn piece of paper'. personally, i think anyone dismissing the constitution like that is guilty of treason, and we know how to deal with that. (grandpa simpson voice)That's a hangin'
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Intel_chair_to_Bush_on_FISA_0214.html

I, for one, do not intend to back down - not to the terrorists and not to anyone, including a President, who wants Americans to cower in fear. We are a strong nation. We cannot allow ourselves to be scared into suspending the Constitution. If we do that, we might as well call the terrorists and tell them that they have won. Sincerely,
Silvestre Reyes
Member of Congress
Chairman, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

"We will not stand here and watch this floor be abused for pure political grandstanding at the expense of our national security. ... Let's just get up and leave," Republican Leader John Boehner advised his colleagues as they dramatically left the floor Thursday afternoon.

I thought the Republican walk-out was staged in response to the Dems daring to bring contempt citations against White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former counsel Harriet Miers.

Was this a different walk-out?

it swears.
-- Bob Dylan.

These guys are taking their cues from the American Zeitgeist - where the response to accusations of executive-sponsored torture are met with an offensive stance: "Damned right! We'd do it again!" Where the response to corporate collusion in illegal invasion of privacy is "retroactive immunity".

Whaddid you expect?

By contrast, Huckabee is a 100% certifiable religious lunatic. And not just on theological grounds, even though I happen to think Mormonism is ridiculous. The man is on record as wanting to turn this country into a theocracy. In context this was about right-to-life and anti-gay marriage Constitutional amendments he wants to push. But even for those who think these would be good things: How far exactly does this philosophy go? Why should he stop there? Has he said anything to make us think he would stop there?

The man's a crackpot, but because he's well-funded he gets more attention than a man who's craziest idea, which even he says he'd be unable to accomplish, is to put us on the gold standard. And Slashdot is helping. Thanks, guys.

All I can say is Fuck Huck.

This is good news for the fundagelicals who are waiting for The Rapture. Of course, most of The Gulag is brain-dead.

Cheers,
K. Trout

You got your Fuck Bush stickers.

Now make some Fuck Huck

National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell is drawing up plans for cyberspace spying that would make the current debate on warrantless wiretaps look like a "walk in the park," according to an interview published in the New Yorker's print edition today. ...

McConnell is developing a Cyber-Security Policy, still in the draft stage, which will closely police Internet activity.

"Ed Giorgio, who is working with McConnell on the plan, said that would mean giving the government the autority to examine the content of any e-mail, file transfer or Web search," author Lawrence Wright pens.

"Google has records that could help in a cyber-investigation, he said," Wright adds. "Giorgio warned me, 'We have a saying in this business: 'Privacy and security are a zero-sum game.'"

This is not one of these boring stories about video games, especially that one where you're supposed to imitate some overhyped musician with some playskool device.

If that is news for nerds, then these might be neurotypical fucks.

What about some essay about how your masters have hijacked your morals and sent you to a trap they desserved?

BTW... don't believe about these "investigations"...

If anyone is interested, the bill is likely to pass, but Chris Doddmay be stage a filibuster.

Also the house passed a version of the bill without immunity, so even if this does pass it isn't quite done yet.

A U.S. official overseeing a probe of former Bush aide Karl Rove yesterday refused to give federal investigators copies of "personal files" he deleted from his office computer, after it was discovered he hired a private computer-help company to erase all the hard drives belonging to him and two deputies. Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch hired a firm to perform a DoD-wipe, guaranteeing the files could never be restored. Bloch said he suspected his computer was infected by a virus - an unorthodox remedy. The receipt for the work performed makes no mention of a virus. Bloch refuses to turn over other files saved online and claims no documents relevant to any investigation have been purged. "We don't do a seven-level wipe for a virus," said a manager of Geeks on Call - the firm that was hired.

One can only hope that the Pakistanis were diligent enough to clone the same PALs system into the Reagan-fostered nuke technology they sold to Iran. It would be really scary if Iran didn't have access, didn't install, and didn't master the same level of advanced bicycle locking technology the United States seems to enjoy.

Read about Tom's Cheney fetish.

Have a day.

K Trout