Domain: rogueamoeba.com
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Check out Nicecast
Rogue Amoeba has a product called Nicecast that works well with the SLIMP3 devices. Using this, you can "play" encyrpted AAC files, as well as any other format, via the SLIMP3.
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Re:Isn't it obvious?
You can already use either Ambrosia WireTap or Rogue Amoeba's Audio Hijack to record the audio stream as it's sent to the sound card (in digital form), at least on MacOS X.
This is really no different that burning to a CD and re-ripping, which people have been able to do all along.
You can also convert m4p (AAC protected) files to AIFF with Toast Titanium or with Apple's own iMovie, then convert the AIFF to whatever form you choose (Ogg, Mp3, non-DRM AAC) using iTunes. -
Re:MOD PARENT UP!
If there was a decent way to only rip the audio from one chapter of a DVD...
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Internet broadcast
Well, I have been hearing most of the new music I am interested in via Internet broadcasting via iTunes. Between that and listening to NPR, the radio is almost useless for me now.
Interestingly, for those users of OS X, there is also a new shareware release of a very promising looking Internet broadcast application that easily shares your iTunes library. Check it out here. It's called Nicecast.
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Re:Virtual CD Driver
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Re-encodingFor what should be fairly obvious reasons, I'd rather see a comparison of encoders re-encoding AAC to MP3. I tried this several weeks ago using AudioHijack and the iTunes MP3 encoder, and the results were less than stellar.
I imagine that an encoder could be optimized for re-encoding. I wonder if anyone is working on this. I'd like to write a program which would automatically do this conversion in my music library, but currently I can't stand the loss of quality.
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Re:Death to Big Labels
The issue I have with $.99 per song is that it is in most cases above the threshold of value to me. If, for instance, I would like to purchase all 12 tracks from an artist's album I would be required to pay Apple $12. However, I could most likely find the CD on Amazon marketplace or Half.com for $5-6. What is my incentive to purchase these tracks from Apple, considering the alternative of having the CD and the ability to convert the tracks into the format of my choice for half the price?
First of all, Apple has a flat-rate price of $10 per album for most albums, no matter how many songs they have. I've gotten a few albums with 16 or 18 songs for $10.
Second, buying a CD on Amazon or Half.com is not the same as buying on the iTunes Music Store (iTMS). You get your song instantly on iTMS, you have to wait for the other stores. Apple's music comes pre-encoded from original masters, the CD you get from the other stores might be scratched and scuffed up. With iTMS you can still convert the AAC file to another format by either burning the song to a CD and then re-encoding or by using Audio Hijack Pro to grab the song from iTunes.
Third, you might also only want a song or two from an album. With iTMS you would only spend $1-$2 for that, with the other stores you would still spend $5-6. iTMS also does not have shipping costs, whereas the other stores you need to pay to have the items shipped to you on top of whatever you paid for them.
Overall, I'd say it is closer than most people think. Sure Amazon or Half.com might be a bit cheaper than iTMS, but you trade off ease-of-use and instant gratification for a dollar or two of savings. It's up to the individual to determine if it's worth it or not, but I definitely feel that iTMS is a service that is worth it. -
Re:Renting vs Buying?
it will be a matter of weeks before a shareware maker comes up with a program that takes your aac files...tricks iTunes into writing them to a cd Image and then allowing you to rip to mp3 from the cdImage
You mean like this program? It takes the audio output from pretty much any source, including a running program like iTunes, and encodes it into mp3 or AIFF. It can even pipe the sound data into a command-line program so you can encode using FLAC, Lame, Ogg, or whatever.
Pretty sweet program. You can even use it like to do timed recordings of internet radio shows, kind of like a Tivo for streaming audio. -
Re:What's the Point??
And what's wrong with the audio files on their website?
http://cartalk.cars.com/Radio/Show/online
Sure, they're RealAudio, but that's not a problem *cough*mencoder*cough*Audio Hijack*cough*. -
Re:You can NOT copy the files
Well, with a product like Audio Hijack, it's trivially easy to capture the streamed audio and make your own file.
/p>As other posters have noted, it's clear that this feature was intended for people to share among their family and friends, not to let the whole world listen to (and, using something like Audio Hijack, copy) someone's iTunes library.
Why do people feel the need to do things like this anyway?
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Re:Sounds like starving to me...Thus what is the reason for implementing a very weak and ineffective DRM scheme by Apple?
To make the labels happy. Apple knows any DRM that's remotely hard to break will be unacceptably limiting to users. For example, MS can't possibly allow an app like Audio Hijack to run on "secure" Windows. Apple's wimpy DRM prevents kiddies from downloading music from iTunes and just plopping the files in their "shared" directory, and that's all it's meant to do. -
Re:AND the AAC files are locked to YOUR Macs
You can save in your favorite format without actual CD burning:
Boot Linux on your PPC, start MOL with your OSX in X11 window with network activated, run iTunes, listen the file, hook at your xmms and save it in any format xmms supports.
That sounds like an awful lot of work, when you could just use Audio Hijack to do the same thing from within Mac OS X -
Re:Converting AAC (".m4p") to MP3?
try rogue amoeba's audio hijack.
it let's you save the audio stream from any carbon app. -
Re:Don't buy into the Apple hype machine, AAC
if you have a mac then you can use audio hijack with that little baby, anything that comes out your speakers you can record
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Audio Hijack Pro
I do however have an app that hijacks the audio stream before the speakers and allows you to play with equalizers, balance, etc. Oh, and it lets you save the result as an MP3 as well as playing it through the speakers.
This app is called Audio Hijack Pro.
Fantastic value for 30$ only. -
No, but Audio Hijack is.
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FYI: You can copy anything you can hear with OSX
For those who dread the ACC format, here is a bit of news for you (in case you have not heard of this product). Audio Hijack allows you to put a software wedge between any application playing and will record the output to your standard AIFF. This, of course, can be played and converted to an MP3 with iTunes. Recording options include; Flash, Realplayer, DVD player, Windows Media player. Basically anything you can launch in a GUI.
I have found this invaluable when making personal movies and wanting to capture little sound clips or songs of the web. I run the iMovie FAQ if you interested in other cool things to do with your iLife. -
Re:is total recorder available for the Mac?
i'm assuming that you are referring to this total recorder...
and if you actually read the review above, he mentions "an app that hijacks the audio stream", which sounds like audio hijack, an OS X app that basically does the same thing.
anyway, a quick visit to total recorder's website would have shown that total recorder is windows-only...
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Audio Hijack
The application he used to grab the audio and turn it into an MP3 is Audio Hijack Pro, from Rogue Amoeba Software. It can grab the audio from any application on OS X, and record it to AIFF or MP3.
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Re:Anyone seen real specs for Apple's format?
Oh, and if you want to avoid going through a CD, one route you can take is Audio Hijack, which will record to an AIFF file anything that's sent to your speakers. Drop-convert the AIFF to MP3, and voila.
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Re:Mod parent down
You can record ANYTHING on OSX.
Thank God or actually Rogue Amoeba Audio Hijack -
iYi Yi... (Audio Hijack)> The next release of iTunes is slated to include P2P technology over Rendezvous(sp).
One wonders why Apple didn't spring this at SFMW03. The cynic in me says that the keynote was so long already, that something had to get shelved.
In the meantime, here's something fun you can do with iTunes, indeed anything that outputs sound on a Mac:
Audio Hijack - AH lets you tweak the sound of any app....and it can record streams as well. An awesome app.