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A small continuous population, that doesn't give them the right to a self-governing state in that territory any more than it does small minorities in other states.

Land claims from well over 1000+ years ago notwithstanding.

The Jewish people have lived in the land of Israel for at least 3,300 years and have hand multiple self-governing states in that land. They don't have "land clams from well over 1000+ years ago," they have had a continuous claim for thousands of years. Invading powers have prevented them from reestablishing their state until 70 year ago.

Being a small minority doesn't mean you get to own the land, and old land claims go away after a few hundred years, much less 1000+.

Can you offer any other groups who ruled a territory over 1000 years ago whom you think have a better claim to the land than its current owners?

And the Jewish immigration was part of a specific plan to create a Jewish homeland. The massive Jewish immigration between 1920 and 1949 was during the Mandate when the British were in change and the local Arab population was unable to manage immigration.

First, Jews had been returning to the land of Israel since at least the 1880s, and the wider population still had ties to their homeland.

They were not so much trying to "create a Jewish homeland" as rebuild it. They have had to do the same thing more than once as invading powers through history have taken away the Israelis only for them to return home later.

And that return to Israel was Zionism, part of the explicit plan I referred to.

And it wasn't their homeland, it was the homeland of their ancient ancestors, who probably took it from someone else's ancient ancestors. Some of those invaders taking their homeland were likely under the impression that they were retaking their own homeland like the Palestinians are trying to now.

Why do ancient land claims only count for the Jews?

Second, why is it that only Jews returning to the land of Israel bother you when Arabs were migrating to those lands at the same time? Are you unaware of the massive movement of Arabs into that areas during the same decades? Where is your outrage about that?

Arabs were already the majority population. They weren't part of a planned demographic change and land seizure. There's nothing to be outraged about.

Third, here is a map of Arab lands and Israel. Could you explain why you think the Arabs have to possess the tiny dot that is Israel too? Don't they have enough land?

Because the land was not Israel's to take. And Arabs are not some amorphous blob, those were actual people who saw another ethnic group come in and take control of their territory.

Of course the Palestinian Arabs disagreed. A different ethnic group declares they're going to start colonizing your territory to create their own state, they then proceed to do so while you're under foreign occupation by states who generally side with the other ethnic group.

Excuse me, but what do you mean "colonizing your territory"? What makes you think it was theirs? You just seem to assume that without proof. What proof do you have?

MYTH - “Palestine was always an Arab country.”

I never claimed Palestine was an Arab country, though the Ottoman's gave them fairly decent autonomy. I claimed that it was Arab territory, as in territory with a huge Arab majority and Arab culture.

And I'm sorry but that site is ridiculous.

Just look at how they acknowledge that Palestine had a huge Arab majority for hundreds, probably more than a thousand years.

Arabic gradually became the language of most of the population afte

A small continuous population, that doesn't give them the right to a self-governing state in that territory any more than it does small minorities in other states.

Land claims from well over 1000+ years ago notwithstanding.

The Jewish people have lived in the land of Israel for at least 3,300 years and have hand multiple self-governing states in that land. They don't have "land clams from well over 1000+ years ago," they have had a continuous claim for thousands of years. Invading powers have prevented them from reestablishing their state until 70 year ago.

And the Jewish immigration was part of a specific plan to create a Jewish homeland. The massive Jewish immigration between 1920 and 1949 was during the Mandate when the British were in change and the local Arab population was unable to manage immigration.

First, Jews had been returning to the land of Israel since at least the 1880s, and the wider population still had ties to their homeland.

They were not so much trying to "create a Jewish homeland" as rebuild it. They have had to do the same thing more than once as invading powers through history have taken away the Israelis only for them to return home later.

Second, why is it that only Jews returning to the land of Israel bother you when Arabs were migrating to those lands at the same time? Are you unaware of the massive movement of Arabs into that areas during the same decades? Where is your outrage about that?

Third, here is a map of Arab lands and Israel. Could you explain why you think the Arabs have to possess the tiny dot that is Israel too? Don't they have enough land?

Of course the Palestinian Arabs disagreed. A different ethnic group declares they're going to start colonizing your territory to create their own state, they then proceed to do so while you're under foreign occupation by states who generally side with the other ethnic group.

Excuse me, but what do you mean "colonizing your territory"? What makes you think it was theirs? You just seem to assume that without proof. What proof do you have?

MYTH - “Palestine was always an Arab country.”

Jewish independence in the Land of Israel lasted for more than 400 years. This is much longer than Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States. 4 In fact, if not for foreign conquerors, Israel would be more than 3,000 years old today.

Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most of the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: “There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ in history, absolutely not.”5

Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:

We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds. 6

In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: “There is no such country as Palestine! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria.” 7 The repr

I'm pretty sure you'd get a blank stare from a large portion of the different names of the so called "Legitimate" moneys

http://www.science.co.il/International/Currency-Codes.asp

Minerals melt and boil at various temperatures and at 2,370 C most minerals will probably break down into smaller molecules and atoms. Since Silicon dioxide (quartz) is a stable and common component of various kinds of rocks, and it has a boiling point of 2,230 C, I suspect that the surface is a sea of melted and boiling quartz and that most of the "atmosphere" is gaseous quarts, and that the "rain" is droplets of liquid quartz. Aluminum oxide melts at 2072C and boils at 2,980C, so the "ocean" is probably a mixture of the two minerals. 2,370C is enough to boil Silicon but not Aluminum. http://www.science.co.il/PTelements.asp?s=BP

I don't think many environmental protestors are claiming that nuclear waste, if shielded, emits radiation. The worries are about whether the shielding actually survives and doesn't break down over years, leach into groundwater, etc.

Which is where breeder reactors and re-processing comes in. And that's just for the radioactive stuff, when you include mercury, arsenic and all the other nasties that coal plants toss into the air it's obvious that nuclear is the only clean energy source which can meet demand.

Plus, think of how much better we'd get at reprocessing if priority was given to nuclear research... Check out a periodic table of elements and see how much stuff was discovered during the nuclear age.

And with the next big push in nuclear research, we may finally pin down cold fusion.

Jakar heavy tube Teletube - extends to double length and available from any art store - Might make a good wi-fi signal booster if lined with aluminum foil on the inside.

Rocket launcher

While there may be more carbon in the universe than silicon, here on Earth silicon is far more abundant than carbon. (27.69% of the Earth's crust is silicon, only 0.094% is carbon, according to this )

Since 1492, through five centuries, the Ottoman sultans and the modern day Turkish Republic, welcomed the Jews and offered them a safe haven from persecution in the European countries. The Ottoman Empire at its zenith became one the largest empires in World History covering most of Mediterranean basin region extending from North Africa to Eastern Europe. It has been suggested that one of the characteristics that extended the domination of the Ottoman Empire was its allowance of religious freedom for the different nationalities and minorities under its rule. While many European nations expelled, persecuted or tried to convert the Jews under their dominion, the Turkish people of the Ottoman Empire, remained as an outstanding example of tolerance of different nationalities with different religions.
Source: http://www.science.co.il/hi/Turkish/

Me: "Without planting these seeds, the cancer of fanatical Islam will inevitably spread unchecked and take over the entire world by numbers and by force."

You: "Oh, put a plug in it, you racist idiot. The same can and has been said about the Jews. I don't see any sizable numbers of Islamic fanatics on the verge of taking over the world, but if I did , then I would blame dickheads like you first."

That's a powerful argument you muster there by calling me a racist idiot. For that, I salute you. Let me respond, you ignorant motherfucker (and I say that with the utmost respect).

You don't "see any sizable number of Islamic fanatics on the verge of taking over the world"? Maybe you should open your eyes. Large portions of the Islamic world are being educated from birth to hate Jews, hate Israel, and hate the West. [1]

And it doesn't even take an army any more to subdue or destroy an entire country. All it takes is a corrupt regime to build nasty weapons ("we need power for our desalinization plants"), people with the will to do terrible things, greed, and an appreciation of martyrdom over life.

Every day prominent Muslims speak out without hesitation about punishing and destroying the Western world. [2]
- "You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world. The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations."
- "We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong ideology."
- "Democracy, human rights, and freedom are all but hollow illusions, with which they tranquilize inhabitants."
- "What you have you seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of all the media blackout, are only the losses of the initial clashes."
- "The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews -- even the stones and trees which were harmed by them...The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew."
- "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it"

If you really want to find a dickhead to blame for this hatred, you'd be better off looking on another continent and in the another millenium, because it's been around since before any of us were here, and it's excessively amplified now by the threat of nuclear weapons. Keep your head up your stank liberal ass if you like, but the facts (and the people involved) speak for themselves. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you want to open your eyes to reality, there's plenty more information out there. [3]

[1] http://www.science.co.il/Arab-Israeli-conflict/Art icles/Education.asp -- oh no, it's a link to a site in Israel... I guess you can totally ignore the contents, right?
[2] http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson2005081 20813.asp -- all of these quotes were from a single article... It took me 5 seconds to find them on Google. There are hundreds more out there.
[3] http://www.jihadwatch.org/ -- one of many resources... feel free to find your own.

If I had a nickel for everytime I heard someone suggest replacing a tungsten weight with uranium, I'd have a buck or so.

I found this. You're right about Uranium. Platinum seems to be a good candidate. Maybe Tungsten is cheaper. Thanks.

Our response involves far more than instant retaliation and isolated strikes. Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. It may include dramatic strikes, visible on TV, and covert operations, secret even in success. We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest. And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.

Sorry, I don't believe that story. Quote 1: "Despite making up only 10 percent of the population, Muslims account for most of the country's inmates and a growing percentage of the prison populations in many other European countries." - make up scary facts.

FYI the article I originally linked is actually a NYTimes article and it was just archived at the other site. Since you don't believe that post let me link a few more for you.
This is an article I found from israel that states the actual number of muslim people in french jails at greater than 60%. This is a promuslim article that states the same thing. The israeli and pro muslim article averages to somewhere near the truth :). To be honest I didn't realize this was true at all until the nytimes article.

I'm originally from the UK and yes somewhat ironically given the circumstances, i think things are/were apparantly much better in the UK than in france. In the US if you are born here you can automatically be a US citizen. When I was born in england the same thing was true (I'm actually a US citizen). They changed it all now because of the whole EU thing.


Why is the majority of US prison inmates black and hispanic? Probably because poor people tend to end up in prison way more often than rich people.


I can't agree w/ this enough. This is exactly what the issue is. The issue is not that they are muslim, that they are immigrants and they won't assimilate it is because they are poor.

According to: this page, Uranium is the 92nd most common element in Earth's crust. Due to its density, it's probably more common in Earth as a whole, but for the forseeable future, unless it's in the crust, we won't be getting our hands on it.

• U.N. Record on Israel and the Arabs
  
  Of the 175 United Nations Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Jerusalem Synagogues and systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians prevented Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
  
  This anti-Israel stance of the UN is a natural consequence of its membership structure. 21 members of the UN are Arab countries, and 52 members represent Islamic countries. Since the Arab Israeli conflict is represented as a religious conflict (see article) Israel as the only Jewish state has no chance for a fair hearing in the UN.

Deny it all you want, I'm still right.

Er no, you're still wrong Mr. bigot. Perhaps if you read a book about anthropology, race or science in general with a publication date past 1955 you would realize that. Or you could simply visit this site. Or this one. Or even this one. But no, I suppose not--it wouldn't matter to you, would it? No matter how many intelligent, decent people of color there are in the world we're all just "niggers, kikes and chinks" to you, as you like to so charmingly put it. *Shrug.* Oh well. Your kind are slowly dying out, even on the political Right. Sucks to be you.