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Re:The obvious solution...
According to PinkSheets, their address is:
355 South 520 West
Suite 100
Lindon, Utah 84042 USA
801-765-4999 phone
801-765-1313 fax
This matches the address listed on their website. No luck on his home address (with my lame ass google-fu) -
Re:Time for the old Dead Man's Switch
Run linux on it, and you could be stealing from this company
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Re:Looks like SCO is hiring in New DelhiUnprecedented: Qualifications
BS degree in computer science with at least 2 years of relevant experience, no more than 4 years experience. And, at New Delhi wages. -
Looks like SCO is hiring in New Delhi
This new capital infusion in SCO is good news if you are a developer in New Delhi .
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Where is Anonymous when you need them?
SCO makes Scientology look like a glee club. I'm not advocating DDOS, which is certainly illegal and immoral, even against these two cults, but after all of the protests that Anonymous was able to drum up against one cult, why not go for the SCO cult? Like the Scientology cult, the SCO cult supposedly has offices worldwide, making it a challenge worthy of the merry band of pranksters that is Anonymous.
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Re:By Public DemandDunno. This is still on SCO's site:
http://www.sco.com/scosource/SCOsource Licensing
Many IT users are concerned about using Linux since they have become aware of the allegations that Linux is an unauthorized derivative work of the UNIX® operating system. Users have come to SCO asking what they can do to continue to run their businesses. SCO has created the SCOsource business division in response to these needs.
SCOsource is a SCO business division that manages its UNIX® System intellectual property and contractual rights. The charter of this division is to create new and innovative licensing programs to meet the changing demands of today's market and to protect its intellectual property-related assets.
SCO Intellectual Property License Program
To meet customer's needs, SCO has introduced the SCO Intellectual Property (IP) License Program to make binary run time licenses for SCO's intellectual property available to end users. The license gives end users the right to use SCO intellectual property contained in Linux, in binary format only. End users who purchase this license will be covered for their use of SCO's intellectual property in binary format in Linux distributions on the licensed system. The license applies to all commercial users of Linux.
SCO is the owner of the UNIX Operating System Intellectual Property that dates back to 1969, when the UNIX System was created at AT&T's Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX System.
Please check the links on the right-hand side of this page. They have been especially selected to help you find the information you might be looking for. -
Re:Such optimism?
Where is Microsoft's new platform now?
What about SCO?
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Not dead according to them!
From SCO site:
SCO intends to maintain business as usual throughout the Chapter 11 proceedings. Subject to court approval, SCO will use the cash flow from its operations to meet its capital needs throughout the reorganization process.
Other companies such as Delta Airlines, Texaco, Dow Corning, K-Mart, United Airlines, Toys R' Us, Macy's Department Stores and others have emerged from Chapter 11 protection after restructuring themselves for success. We intend to do the same. -
Re:Why the 6-day delay?
It took until 12/27 to hit the newswires because the SCO press release is dated 12/27. The newswires picked it up the same day, today.
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Re:Do you also welcome AJAX hosts holding your dat
Please check thy facts, kind sir. Javascript was conceived of as a Java-like script language. A poor man's Java for those that found object oriented concepts a little too brain intensive. Thrown in the first netscape browser to allow a little customisation of the DOM on the fly, for things that then then HTML 3 couldn't do properly.
You may be surprised to know that I am well in possession of the facts. I used to believe that Javascript (formerly Livescript, formerly Mocha) got its name in simply a cross-branding deal. In fact, it was far more complex than that. Javascript was created to script Java as well as the DOM. The original concept would have blown today's AJAX out of the water in usability. Alas, it was not to be.
Here's more history for you: http://safari.oreilly.com/0768666775/ch01lev1sec1
Also, here's a bit of Javascript for you, demonstrating how powerful it was intended to be:<script>
var myobj = Packages.javax.swing.JOptionPane;
var Frame = java.awt.Frame;
var frame = new Frame();
frame.show();
myobj.showConfirmDialog(frame, "Hello from Java! See Ma? No applet!");
frame.hide();
</script>(That will work in FireFox with a recent Java plugin. I guarantee that it will not work on Internet Explorer.)
You have to remember, Java already existed in the browser when Javascript was created. Netscape internally discussed just using Java itself for scripting, but decided that a new, more dynamic scripting language would be more useful. (Source) Thus the birth of Javascript. Eich described the first revision as "having gotten out of the lab a bit earlier than intended". Javascript 1.1 was much closer to his vision, and what we think of today when we talk about Javascript.
You also need to understand that the Javascript language went beyond just the browser. Much of its development was driven by its use as a server-side CGI language. So it became a "real" language very quickly, despite its slow start.
And if you think that's cool, remind me sometime to tell you about how multipart/x-mixed-replace could have been server-side push long before AJAX, Comet, or <event-source> ever existed. ;)Javascript is not an object oriented language.
Incorrect. Prototype-based languages are very much OO languages. They're different from class-based, languages, but that doesn't make them any less powerful.
There is no polymorphesm
I think you misunderstand the very meaning of polymorphism if you believe that.
Here's the "Runnable" interface implemented in Javascript:var MyObject1() {}
MyObject1.prototype.run = function() { alert("Running 1!"); }
var MyObject2() {}
MyObject2.prototype.run = function() { alert("Running 2!"); }
var objarray = [new MyObject1(), new MyObject2()];
for(var i=0; i<objarray.length; i++) objarray.run();The polymorphism appears to work fine?
or inheritance
Funny, Netscape's Client Guide has an entire chapter on that.
strong type checking
Strong typing is not a OOP requirement. It is a feature of some languages. Nothing more, nothing less. In any case, Javascript actually has quite a few typing fe
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Here's some terrorist propaganda
Check out here.
If the FBI asks, you didn't hear it from me. -
Employment at SCO
Oddly enough, they are looking for
.NET programmers here. Also note that their development is in New Delhi. Perhaps the Indians don't realize the type of company they are working for? -
Re:don't lose your head over itNow if only you could actually get Daryl into a guillotine... Who's Daryl? The CEO of SCO is Darl McBride.
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Re:A tad biasedSome facts. If you look at the SCO's financial reports http://ir.sco.com/results.cfm, you will see a couple of interesting things. First, revenue sinked from 36 M in 2005, to 29 M in 2006 and made just 12 M in the first two quarters of 2007 (so a 24M by end of year is a good approximation). Second, the revenue from SCO licenses is just ridiculous, it is in the order of a few K, not even a million! Most of the revenue comes from services, which are not an asset you can sell easily (I might be wrong here).
With respect of Facebook, I agree it is insane, as most of the Internet era businesses. But the basic idea is that you buy the tens of millions of recurring users, which MAYBE represent a source of revenue. Hey, is the classic "built it and they will come" approach. Facebook is not in the business of making money out of the user, but to get them in the first place. Then others will come to make money (or not, that's a big risk, if not ask eBay about Skype!)
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Re:There's probably something thereWhat I want to know is why does SCO's website say the following blatant lie?
The company is obviously disappointed with the ruling issued last Friday. However, the court clearly determined that SCO owns the copyrights to the technology developed or derived by SCO after Novell transferred the assets to SCO in 1995.
The court clearly said that Novell owns Unix, they never transferred the Unix IP to SCO.
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Re:set icmp_messaging off
Uh, sure.
Try uh, http://www.sco.com./
Yeah, that's the one.
Disable ping. Fool. Any reasonable network admin that doesn't disable ping needs their motives examined:
Anytime you can get a ping, there's a service somewhere in there that can be probed and opened with one kind of crowbar or another. Go on, expose yourself. Keep that attack surface high and wide.
Yeah, go ahead, and when that diploma from Pumpkin U falls off the wall when your net gets owned, don't blame me. -
Re: No technical employees
If that's so, what are they doing with all that R&D money? It was $1.42 million for the most recent quarter and $4.74 million for the last three quarters, per SCO's latest 10Q filing. That's a huge share of their revenue (which continues to shrink). SCO has many problems, but cutting the R&D budget hasn't been the reason for them.
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Are you kidding?!?!? They're HIRING!
http://www.sco.com/company/jobs/
You to can go to India now and be considered "senior" but
only if you have "BS degree in computer science with at least 2
years of relevant experience, no more than 4 years experience."
Stuff like that is too priceless to be made up.
Please Indian outsourcers, keep considering people with 2-4 years
of experience "senior". It makes the rest of us with real
senior experience in the US, UK & Europe who are merely good, look fucking great! -
Re:Do They Even Have Any Customers??????Do these Clowns even have anymore customers after what they've pulled?
Almost unbelievably, yes. It hasn't even been that long since MySQL AB partnered with them (Notice: any resemblance between the SCAMP logo and the OpenBSD pufferfish is coincidental) (SCAMP? Shoot that marketing director).
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Re:Do They Even Have Any Customers??????Do these Clowns even have anymore customers after what they've pulled?
Almost unbelievably, yes. It hasn't even been that long since MySQL AB partnered with them (Notice: any resemblance between the SCAMP logo and the OpenBSD pufferfish is coincidental) (SCAMP? Shoot that marketing director).
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Re:What happens?
They go and buy scosource licenses to keep the boat afloat until they can buy shares to cover their position.
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Re:sad in a way
along with some other stuff
What other stuff, source code? How could they even make a case without an original source code tree for this product
As a division of Sun, I believe they're still doing fine.
Which division of Sun? Doesn't sun already have an intel offering of Solaris? Where is the website? Why would Sun buy that market if they didn't buy the branding that went with it, the only reason they would do it is to convert customers, specifically SCO developers, to Solaris. I remember Caldera getting into SCO but I don't remember anything about Sun purchasing any SCO assets, can you show me where this information is because I couldn't find any when I googled for it?I remember SCO's original purchase of the Unix Source code and the subsequent sale to Novell, I'm not saying I'm an expert of Unix Source code ownership but I did work with this companies offerings for a long time.
I think SCO were assholes for not working with the Open source community because I think they had alot to offer, for all of SCO's fault's you cannot deny them the success they had in the marketplace. Instead of capitalising on this success they decided to be M$'s Bitch.
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Open Letter to the Open Source Community
In retrospect, it's now fascinating to go back and read the original Open Letter to the Open Source Community written by Darl McBride, with the knowledge that SCO is going to bankrupt in four years.
Note to VCs: it's impossible to litigate your way to profitability. -
Re:Use SCO's bandwidth...
It's interesting to note that despite all the coverage SCO has had on
/. over the past year, their own news page seems to indicate that nothing of note has happened to the company since October 2006.
I wonder why that would be ... -
Re:Use SCO's bandwidth...
d'oh! The thought was good, but the execution flawed...
Thanks for the info. /. http://sco.com/... -
Funny Excerpthttp://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070830/lath046.html?.v=101
About SCO
The SCO Group (Nasdaq: SCOX - News) is a leading provider of UNIX software technology and mobile services. SCO offers UnixWare for enterprise applications and SCO OpenServer for small to medium businesses. The SCO Mobile product line focuses on creating mobile platforms, services and solutions for businesses and enhances the productivity of mobile workers. SCO's highly innovative and reliable solutions help customers grow their businesses everyday, especially into the emerging mobile market. SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to Unix-based system software providers.
Headquartered in Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide network of thousands of resellers and developers. SCO Global Services provides reliable localized support and services to partners and customers. For more information on SCO products and services, visit http://www.sco.com./
SCO and the associated logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of The SCO Group, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group.
Source: SCO Group, Inc.
HAHA
... Someone's in denial! -
Re:Use SCO's bandwidth... with prejudice!
While reading SCO's Ch11 woes, use even a bit more of their bandwidth.
Just for fun, click on the links to:
Print page,
Email page, and
Download PDF. -
Re:Use SCO's bandwidth... with prejudice!
While reading SCO's Ch11 woes, use even a bit more of their bandwidth.
Just for fun, click on the links to:
Print page,
Email page, and
Download PDF. -
Re:Use SCO's bandwidth... with prejudice!
While reading SCO's Ch11 woes, use even a bit more of their bandwidth.
Just for fun, click on the links to:
Print page,
Email page, and
Download PDF. -
Re:Use SCO's bandwidth... with prejudice!
While reading SCO's Ch11 woes, use even a bit more of their bandwidth.
Just for fun, click on the links to:
Print page,
Email page, and
Download PDF. -
STILL claiming UNIX in the press release!
The press release http://ir.sco.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=264124 says:
"SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to UNIX-based system software providers."
Those SCO guys are a real pantload! Hahahahah -
In their own words ..
And here it is, in their own word. SCOX is now trading at $.37, down from an open of $.65. Geez, and the whole thing seemed like such a good idea almost five years ago.
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Use SCO's bandwidth...
read about the Chapter 11 filing here:
http://ir.sco.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=264124 ...and put a *wee* bit more pressure on their dwindling bankroll. ;) -
SCO response
Anyone read SCO's response ? http://www.sco.com/company/news/Letter%20to%20SCO
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Re:Dead cat bounce
Considering SCOX has always managed to bouce back over the $1 mark to avoid delisting I suspect you might be right.
That clock has already been ticking for 4 months, they only have 2 months left to make a recovery. ( I am assuming a short burst to $1.50 didn't reset the clock. )
SCO to be delisted.If the Company cannot demonstrate compliance with Rule 4310(c)(4) by October 22, 2007, the Nasdaq staff will determine whether the Company meets The Nasdaq Capital Market initial listing criteria set forth in Nasdaq Marketplace Rule 4310(c), except for the bid price requirement. If the Company meets the initial listing criteria, the Nasdaq staff will notify the Company that it has been granted an additional 180 calendar day compliance period. If the Company is not eligible for an additional compliance period, the Nasdaq staff will provide written notice that the Company's securities will be delisted. At that time, the Company may appeal the Nasdaq staff's determination to delist its securities to a Listing Qualifications Panel.
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SCO's "code of conduct" document
http://www.sco.com/images/company/SCO_Code_of_Con
d uct_and_Ethics_Policy-Final.pdf
Funny thing to read... They even have a paragraph called "We Provide Full, Fair, Accurate, Timely and Understandable Disclosure". The only proviso is that this disclosure is aimed at "shareholders and investors", and nobody else. So they also excluded the judicial system there, I suppose..?
The PDF was created on 15 feb 2005, so this lawsuit could've ended back then. But nooooo.... -
Official response from SCO
The company is obviously disappointed with the ruling issued last Friday. However, the court clearly determined that SCO owns the copyrights to the technology developed or derived by SCO after Novell transferred the assets to SCO in 1995. This includes the new development in all subsequent versions of UnixWare up through the most current release of UnixWare and substantial portions of SCO UnixWare Gemini 64. Also, SCO owns the exclusive, worldwide license to use the UnixWare trademark, now owned by The Open Group. SCO's ownership of OpenServer and its Mobile Server platforms were not challenged and remain intact. These SCO platforms continue to drive enterprises large and small and our rapidly developing mobile business is being well received in the marketplace.
http://www.sco.com/company/news/statement.html
What's more, the court did not dismiss our claims against Novell regarding the non compete provisions of the 1995 Technology License Agreement relating to Novell's distribution of Linux to the extent implicated by the technology developed by SCO after 1995. Those issues remain to be litigated.
Although the district judge ruled in Novell's favor on important issues, the case has not yet been fully vetted by the legal system and we will continue to explore our options with respect to how we move forward from here. -
Work for SCOX ?I could not believe all the job openings they have:
SCO Employment - An Equal Opportunity Employer
Current Open Positions
Job Title: Senior
.Net UI Engineer
Location: New Delhi, India
at least 2 years of relevant experience, no more than 4 years experience.Job Title: Senior Java UI Engineer
Location: New Delhi, India
at least 2 years of relevant experience, no more than 4 years experience.I'm a H1-B holder myself, so I'm used to the They took our jobs! line, but how do get senior people if they can't have more than 4 years of experience ?
Also what's with the An Equal Opportunity Employer, this is clearly "we can only affoard an indian software engineer with as little experience as possible (dirt cheap better)".
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Re:Woohoowww.sco.com/company/news/
Latest headline : october 06
Looks like SCO are trying the ol' no news is good news approach these days
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Re:WoohooStill time to hit 'em with one last Slashdotting, just for old time's sake.
Come on! Everybody click http://www.sco.com/ Hit Refresh a couple of times while you're there.
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Employment opportunity!
The hiring team at SCO must not be following the news very carefully... They seem feel the need to fill two developer positions
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Re:Woohoo
The amazing thing is that having been found liable for slandering Novell's title, they're still doing it.
http://www.sco.com/company/profile.html
"SCO owns the core UNIX operating system"
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Thanks for the -Wl,-gc-sectionsWhat that means, of course, is that what's making my programs big isn't the C++ lib, it's the C lib. I assume you're using uclibc or something similar. Actually devkitARM uses newlib, but yes, it's similar. I added some simple STL use to see how it would "bloat" the code. Using a std::vector added 1.5 KB to the C++ app size. Adding a second vector increased code size by 200 bytes, indicating that the vast majority of the increase is a one-time cost. Did that add 1.5 kB to the <iostream> version, or 1.5 kB to the <cstdio> version? Unless you're really counting every byte, I think you're better off with C++ rather than C. And if you're really counting every byte, you probably better look at assembler. In fact, I do sometimes look at the assembly language produced by my C code. Looking at a nm of the
.elf file before stripping it, I see a bunch of locale support detritus linked in. (moneypunct? timepunct? floating point emulator?) I could probably lose some of this by switching to uClibc++. The "-Wl,-gc-sections" tells the linker to avoid linking in any unused functions. It helps quite a bit Thanks a bunch for this tip. On devkitARM, I get 180,032 bytes for -Os -Wl,-gc-sections, compared to 253,652 bytes for just -Os. -
Re:Hurrah!
#6 on this page definitely needs revision as well.
- Who owns the copyrights for UNIX? SCO does not believe there should be any confusion as to ownership of the UNIX copyrights. It clearly purchased these from Novell in 1995 as is evidenced in the Asset Purchase Agreement and Amendment 2 with Novell (see www.sco.com/scosource/novell). Novell also further clarified this in its own press release of June 6, 2003. -
Re:Hurrah!
Nothing to do with your post really, but in visiting the SCO website through the link I stumbled across this very amusing "Business Jive" podcast by Darl McBride.
If only someone outside regular Slashdot/Groklaw readers would know who Darl McBride is, the "can you dig it?" bit by Darl would be begging for sampling. -
For archival purposes
A reply to your post seems like a good place to archive SCO's page entitled "Intellectual Property Protection" at http://www.sco.com/scosource/ipprotection.html . This newsworthy information is offered here under the fair use provision of the copyright act.
Many customers are concerned about using Linux since they have become aware of the allegations that Linux is an unauthorized derivative work of the UNIX® operating system. These customers unknowingly received illegal copies of SCO property and many are running critical business applications on Linux. Some customers have asked their Linux distributors to indemnify them against intellectual property infringement claims in Linux. Due to the limitations of the GPL and lack of adequate IP controls in Linux, such customers have been unable to obtain satisfactory assurances, whether through adequate indemnification programs or otherwise, from distributors that their use of Linux will not cause them exposure to liability for this use.
SCO has an obligation to stockholders, customers and employees to protect the value of its assets. SCO is also sympathetic to the end-user's predicament. SCO has determined that it can accommodate both conditions by offering a license that cures the IP infringement in Linux. This new license is called "SCO Intellectual Property Protection" and applies to commercial use of the Linux 2.4 and later versions. The license insures that Linux end users can continue to run their business uninterrupted without misusing SCO's Intellectual Property.
End users who purchase this license are granted the right to use the SCO IP in Linux in binary format only.
Oh, and you should be careful:
In other words, not only is there no "there" there, there never was, and it is completely documented and no other reasonable conclusion could be drawn by any sane individual.
Maureen O'Gara, Robert Enderle or Daniel Lyons might consider that actionable slander.
The effects this case has had are proof that members of the press, pundits and people with high responsibility in the IT field cannot be bothered to evaluate the available facts and come to an informed conclusion. Of course, that wasn't news.
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Re:Hurrah!
My comment to them: Hello, I was looking at your site, and I noticed an error on the page found at http://www.sco.com/company/profile.html According to that page, "SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to Unix-based system software providers." I understand that this oversight, and your general stupidity over the past few years is likely a result of the rampant inbreeding in Utah, but I would strongly suggest you remove this section of text - especially considering the bitchslap you oh so dearly deserved, and received from the courts. Thank you for your time, and suck my balls. This message brought to you by the letter Q, the number 09F911029D74E35BD84156C563568C? (ha, bet you thought you could get me on DMCA charges, you litigious bastards. One character unknown, oh noes, it's not a violation!), and everyone who doesn't have their head stuck up their ass.
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Check out their press room
With great interest I quickly visited their site to see what they had to say about this.
Their pressroom:
http://www.sco.com/company/news/
The latest story is from October 2006, entitled "What I Like About SCO". I guess the last 10 months have been pretty quiet. That, or they canned the poor schmuck who was updating the page to try and pay for their failing legal maneuvers. -
Re:Hurrah!
You can send them feedback from here.
I wrote this:
Subject: You have an error on your website...
Message: It says, "SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to Unix-based system software providers."
NO, YOU DON'T! HA! HA!
Now get those lies off your website.
Cheers!And then I got the message: Thank you for your feedback.
And in smaller print: You will be hearing from us soon.Do you think that was a threat?
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Re:Hurrah!
I think we need to mass mail to them and let them know this page of theirs is a lie.
SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to Unix-based system software providers.