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My-my-my-my (U can't touch us)
SCO tries to bill me so hard
Makes me say, "Oh my Lord, thank you for blessing me
With a mind to think about the O from SC"
It feels good
When you know you're right
A superdope winner in a court fight
And SCO knows as much
And they'd just get beat-uh!
U can't touch us

I told you homeboys
U can't touch us
Yeah, that's how we livin' and you know
U can't touch us
Look in the GPL, man
U can't touch us
Yo, let me bust the funky code
U can't touch us

Stop! RICO time!

(With some apologies to MC Hammer, but mostly to the people who read this.)

SCO is still distributing kernel 2.4.13. Are they licensing this code under the GPL or not?

I'd suggest looking into UnitedLinux; heck, even SCO likes it! Evaluate it and see if that's more compatible out of the box with your stuff.

If you want a second opinion, here's some more advice; he also confirms that it's easier to move existing SCO stuff over to UnitedLinux than it would be to switch to RedHat Linux, for example.

As a copyright holder, I belive that this criminal conspiracy is illegally distributing my intellectual property in violation of the license.

How do I report this matter to the FBI? What steps can I take to ensure that the software pirate enjoys an extended stay in Federal prison?

• Microsoft updates Windows via Windows Update
• Debian updates Linux via apt-get
• The FreeBSD Project updates FreeBSD via make world
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The code in contention is Unix System V.

Is that a fact?.

I suppose someone ought to tell the guys at SCO that, because they seem blissfully unaware.

I'd really like to know how SCO continues to distribute the kernel source GPL and all, and claim that code isn't covered by the GPL.

Its not that hard to find it on there now . Doesn't the fact that they continue to distribute the kernel sources completely negate their claim that they didn't know their code was in there before?

The rpm kernel source here contains the exact same tar.bz2 file that you can download from kernel.org.

The Linux distro is not the issue here. The Linux kernel is the issue. SCO continues to distribute the Linux kernel source to this day.

Here are the instruction for downloading the kernel source from SCO directly.
Kernel Source provided by SCO

Make sure you are in the directory you want to extract the kernel source to
rpm2cpio linux-2.4.13-21S.src.rpm | cpio -i
tar -xvjf linux-2.4.13.tar.bz2

You now have a perfect copy of the kernel source in the linux directory, just as if you had downloaded from kernel.org and extracted it yourself.

remember that SCO has so far only put out threats and not sued

No, they have formally filed suit. What they haven't done is gone into court, which promises to be intensely amusing, and not in a good way for SCO.

What they have threatened is to reveal evidence that would be damaging to IBM and give them control of Linux. Anybody who has actually looked at the details of the situation knows this is just verbal flatulence, with overtones of commercial fraud.

I wonder how good the bus drivers are in Lindon, Utah?

Well, there's lots of proof that McBride is delirious :)
Another snippet is basically their claim that Linux developers couldn't have possibly coded up NUMA support et al, by themselves, so they must have swiped it from someone else (point 86 here). Shows how much faith SCO really has in Linux...

Just don't try to patent it, I think SCO have prior art

The interesting thing is that they aren't really the Santa Cruz Operation but The SCO Group.

Last I checked there were no insider trades since the lawsuit.

That is, apart from their VP of engineering selling ALL his stock and others

Last I checked there were no insider trades since the lawsuit.

That is, apart from their VP of engineering selling ALL his stock and others

As SCO is now requesting open source code to ensure it does not contain SCO's property, please send your ISOs and uncompressed images of Redhat, Suse, Lindows, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and Knoppix to investorrelations@sco.com
robertb@sco.com
kmartens@sco.com
darlm@sco.com
chriss@sco.com
shitheads@sco.com

As SCO is now requesting open source code to ensure it does not contain SCO's property, please send your ISOs and uncompressed images of Redhat, Suse, Lindows, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and Knoppix to investorrelations@sco.com
robertb@sco.com
kmartens@sco.com
darlm@sco.com
chriss@sco.com
shitheads@sco.com

As SCO is now requesting open source code to ensure it does not contain SCO's property, please send your ISOs and uncompressed images of Redhat, Suse, Lindows, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and Knoppix to investorrelations@sco.com
robertb@sco.com
kmartens@sco.com
darlm@sco.com
chriss@sco.com
shitheads@sco.com

As SCO is now requesting open source code to ensure it does not contain SCO's property, please send your ISOs and uncompressed images of Redhat, Suse, Lindows, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and Knoppix to investorrelations@sco.com
robertb@sco.com
kmartens@sco.com
darlm@sco.com
chriss@sco.com
shitheads@sco.com

As SCO is now requesting open source code to ensure it does not contain SCO's property, please send your ISOs and uncompressed images of Redhat, Suse, Lindows, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and Knoppix to investorrelations@sco.com
robertb@sco.com
kmartens@sco.com
darlm@sco.com
chriss@sco.com
shitheads@sco.com

As SCO is now requesting open source code to ensure it does not contain SCO's property, please send your ISOs and uncompressed images of Redhat, Suse, Lindows, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, and Knoppix to investorrelations@sco.com
robertb@sco.com
kmartens@sco.com
darlm@sco.com
chriss@sco.com
shitheads@sco.com

> > The open-source development community is an international treasure and should be protected as such

> Exactly! And what do you do with international treasure?

If you're a pirate, you try to get your hands on it.

SCO responds to RMS

Sorry, not quite the right page.
The kernel is here.

• SCO says it's their code in the Linux Kernel
• They say it's IBM's fault.
• Not only that, but it's code written by IBM.
• SCO says they have the right to control release because it was once attached to an SYSV system
• They have also assured their (other) licensees that they stil own their code that they inserted into their versions of UNIX, it's just that SCO can stop them from distributing it.
• They say that the GNU license on the code is invalid because the GPL states that it can only be placed by the copyright owner
• But if IBM Still owns the code, and they're the ones who placed it, then the GPL is valid (It's just that SCO gets to sue IBM for releasing it withiout their say-so .. but subsequent users are still OK).
• SCO is still distributing Caldera Linux -- including kernel source.
• This means that they're distributing it under the GPL, with a GPL license on it and IBM (the owner of the code) has also explicitly released it... Seems like everybody in this loop has given their permission -- either explicit or implict.
• If their license is really this nasty (and they're ambushing customers with things like this), I expect that a lot of other businesses are going to abandon their Unix license as soon as they can.
• It's pretty unlikely that their long stretch claim to owing everything ever put into AIX is going to win.
• Some people now think that they're going to try and (essentially) blackmail people into paying them for any copies of Linux that didn't come direct from Caldera/SCO (even if it came indirectly from them).
• This whole mess places them in violation of the GPL and opens them up to some nasty copyright suits.
• Until this started, SCO looked like it was about to go bankrupt
• If this fails, not only will their old UNIX funding sources dry up, but nobody is going to want to buy Caldera, either. They could also end up with millions (billions) in legal bills.

If I knew when (not if) SCO's stock is going to tank, I'd issue a shell-sort order today.

They haven't just shot themselves in the foot on this -- they've blown off their whole lower leg.

Maybe to avoid companies like scumsoft?

1. SCO confirms in this letter that SCO is selling Linux.
2. The GPL sections 6 and 7 seem to restrict use of the GPL if they are affected by (their own) restrictions on GPL-protected tools.
3. The IBM Public License terminates the license if patent litigation takes place.
4. Item #2 in the letter says SCO is suspending sales of Linux.

Well, what SCO Products might be affected by the GPL and IPL?

• SCO OpenServer 5.07 - there are some GNU tools there. (GNU coding standards!)
• Postfix Horde, IMP (SCO doc server down: IMP GPL), in SCOoffice Mail Server [Several SCO Documentation pages have bad LICENSE or COPYRIGHT links].
• (Can't check more products - the SCO documentation server stopped responding to me.)
• RPM is under the GPL.

1. SCO confirms in this letter that SCO is selling Linux.
2. The GPL sections 6 and 7 seem to restrict use of the GPL if they are affected by (their own) restrictions on GPL-protected tools.
3. The IBM Public License terminates the license if patent litigation takes place.
4. Item #2 in the letter says SCO is suspending sales of Linux.

Well, what SCO Products might be affected by the GPL and IPL?

• SCO OpenServer 5.07 - there are some GNU tools there. (GNU coding standards!)
• Postfix Horde, IMP (SCO doc server down: IMP GPL), in SCOoffice Mail Server [Several SCO Documentation pages have bad LICENSE or COPYRIGHT links].
• (Can't check more products - the SCO documentation server stopped responding to me.)
• RPM is under the GPL.

click here to contribute the the SCO /. effect for 23 June 2003 and help SCO spend their remaining cash faster thus stimulating the economy and creating jobs for our hurting IT sector!

http://www.sco.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=truth

There isn't in the location choosen for reasons I can't comprehend by the OP.

However, over here:ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/scolinux/server/4.0/upd ates/SRPMS are four files that claim to be "kernel-source" but strangely contain the string "nosrc" as well.

This one in particular: kernel-source-2.4.19.SuSE-82.nosrc.rpm contains a file called patches.i386.tar.bz2 which in turn contains a file called 8975_NUMAQ.

That seems to be a kernel patch dealing with something related to NUMA, and contains GPL references.

Isn't NUMA one of the things, SCO has specifically mentioned as being part of the IP at issue?

There isn't in the location choosen for reasons I can't comprehend by the OP.

However, over here:ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/scolinux/server/4.0/upd ates/SRPMS are four files that claim to be "kernel-source" but strangely contain the string "nosrc" as well.

This one in particular: kernel-source-2.4.19.SuSE-82.nosrc.rpm contains a file called patches.i386.tar.bz2 which in turn contains a file called 8975_NUMAQ.

That seems to be a kernel patch dealing with something related to NUMA, and contains GPL references.

Isn't NUMA one of the things, SCO has specifically mentioned as being part of the IP at issue?

Is it pronounced "S, C, O, Linux" or do I say it like a word: "SKOH Linux"?

I called their line the other day to see why they were still distributing linux, and their voice mail said "S-C-O". This surprised me, since my friends and I have been pronouncing it 'skoh' since the 1996 or 1997.

They said they won't sue people using SCO Linux, not that it was ok with them for the code to be used. There's a difference. If I jaywalk and don't get charged, it's not that jaywalking is not illegal, it's that the law was not enforced. Big difference.

It would be, except that they're still distributing said product.

Sure, it appears that they either don't understand or believe the GPL, but I doubt they are that dumb. I think what's going on is that they realize that they can't stop others from distributing Linux because they are still distributing it themselves (despite their claims otherwise), but they want to keep people from distributing it anyway, and spreading FUD like this is how they do it. Why do they want to keep people from using Linux if they would have a hard time legally enforcing it? They want to drive people from Linux to Unix because they believe that they can exert control over Unix. I believe that is their plan. They want to drive people away from what they can't control into the arms of the closest alternative, which they do plan to control.

And if you're looking to make the backend work a bit more than usual...

here

By downloading this 25MB file!
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Tell your friends!

The Gartner Group thought about that, too, and did a little paper that SCO has on their site. Er, here. It sounds like they may be fishing for a takeover, if they're posting this kinda info. I'm not an MBA, though, so I don't really know the intricities of this sort of thing.

"For the second quarter of fiscal 2003 ended April 30, The SCO Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: SCOX) reported net income of $4.5 million, or $0.33 per diluted share, on revenue of $21.4 million..."

From here.)

If SCO loses this lawsuit, as the _plaintiff_, mind you, it's not gonna put a dent in 'em.

"The whole GNU project is really one big hack. It's one big act of subversive playful cleverness..." Richard Stallman, as pointed out by SCO. You think these guys even understand the issues here? They don't even understand the _language_.

SCOsource is a new business division to manage its UNIX® System intellectual property. The charter of the new division is to create new and innovative licensing programs to meet the changing demands of today's market and to protect its intellectual property asset.

SCO is the owner of the UNIX Operating System Intellectual Property that dates all the way back 1969, when the UNIX System was created at Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the patents, copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX System. The SCO source division will continue to offer traditional UNIX System licenses to preserve, protect and enhance shareholder value.

Interesting are also the side-links, expecially this, this other, and also this one.

The third link here is Sco trying to submerge the Free Software Movement on the whole by taking out some two random phrases out of context and putting them in the mouths of RMS and Perens.

This is a very very dirty tactic Sco, and I deserve all the right to remind people that you were a dying company, selling an inferior technology, taking the road to extinction, then saved by a bunch of former employees who thrived thanks to linux, bought back for a dime or two. I will only state the truth, don't you think?

+ + + +
I wonder when they are going to tell people that Linux helped Saddam Hussein fleeing the battlefield, or that the FSF headquarters has a time machine and they will use it to start a Soviet Revolution in the US instead of the War of Independence.

+ + + +
Did I tell you that I Hate Sco?

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If you download this, Darl will cry:
ed2k://|file|debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso|6 78395904|39BE2DD045C910DDC81B7FC882ABB203|/

SCOsource is a new business division to manage its UNIX® System intellectual property. The charter of the new division is to create new and innovative licensing programs to meet the changing demands of today's market and to protect its intellectual property asset.

SCO is the owner of the UNIX Operating System Intellectual Property that dates all the way back 1969, when the UNIX System was created at Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the patents, copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX System. The SCO source division will continue to offer traditional UNIX System licenses to preserve, protect and enhance shareholder value.

Interesting are also the side-links, expecially this, this other, and also this one.

The third link here is Sco trying to submerge the Free Software Movement on the whole by taking out some two random phrases out of context and putting them in the mouths of RMS and Perens.

This is a very very dirty tactic Sco, and I deserve all the right to remind people that you were a dying company, selling an inferior technology, taking the road to extinction, then saved by a bunch of former employees who thrived thanks to linux, bought back for a dime or two. I will only state the truth, don't you think?

+ + + +
I wonder when they are going to tell people that Linux helped Saddam Hussein fleeing the battlefield, or that the FSF headquarters has a time machine and they will use it to start a Soviet Revolution in the US instead of the War of Independence.

+ + + +
Did I tell you that I Hate Sco?

+ + + +
If you download this, Darl will cry:
ed2k://|file|debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso|6 78395904|39BE2DD045C910DDC81B7FC882ABB203|/

SCOsource is a new business division to manage its UNIX® System intellectual property. The charter of the new division is to create new and innovative licensing programs to meet the changing demands of today's market and to protect its intellectual property asset.

SCO is the owner of the UNIX Operating System Intellectual Property that dates all the way back 1969, when the UNIX System was created at Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the patents, copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX System. The SCO source division will continue to offer traditional UNIX System licenses to preserve, protect and enhance shareholder value.

Interesting are also the side-links, expecially this, this other, and also this one.

The third link here is Sco trying to submerge the Free Software Movement on the whole by taking out some two random phrases out of context and putting them in the mouths of RMS and Perens.

This is a very very dirty tactic Sco, and I deserve all the right to remind people that you were a dying company, selling an inferior technology, taking the road to extinction, then saved by a bunch of former employees who thrived thanks to linux, bought back for a dime or two. I will only state the truth, don't you think?

+ + + +
I wonder when they are going to tell people that Linux helped Saddam Hussein fleeing the battlefield, or that the FSF headquarters has a time machine and they will use it to start a Soviet Revolution in the US instead of the War of Independence.

+ + + +
Did I tell you that I Hate Sco?

+ + + +
If you download this, Darl will cry:
ed2k://|file|debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso|6 78395904|39BE2DD045C910DDC81B7FC882ABB203|/

SCOsource is a new business division to manage its UNIX® System intellectual property. The charter of the new division is to create new and innovative licensing programs to meet the changing demands of today's market and to protect its intellectual property asset.

SCO is the owner of the UNIX Operating System Intellectual Property that dates all the way back 1969, when the UNIX System was created at Bell Laboratories. Through a series of mergers and acquisitions, SCO has acquired ownership of the patents, copyrights and core technology associated with the UNIX System. The SCO source division will continue to offer traditional UNIX System licenses to preserve, protect and enhance shareholder value.

Interesting are also the side-links, expecially this, this other, and also this one.

The third link here is Sco trying to submerge the Free Software Movement on the whole by taking out some two random phrases out of context and putting them in the mouths of RMS and Perens.

This is a very very dirty tactic Sco, and I deserve all the right to remind people that you were a dying company, selling an inferior technology, taking the road to extinction, then saved by a bunch of former employees who thrived thanks to linux, bought back for a dime or two. I will only state the truth, don't you think?

+ + + +
I wonder when they are going to tell people that Linux helped Saddam Hussein fleeing the battlefield, or that the FSF headquarters has a time machine and they will use it to start a Soviet Revolution in the US instead of the War of Independence.

+ + + +
Did I tell you that I Hate Sco?

+ + + +
If you download this, Darl will cry:
ed2k://|file|debian-30r1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso|6 78395904|39BE2DD045C910DDC81B7FC882ABB203|/

Download this 25+ MB file from SCO - it is rather interesting.

Many if not all of SCO's SEC documents are online as PDFs.

I wonder what the cost is to SCO each time someone downloads (for instance) the Statement of Changes of Beneficial Ownership. Maybe you're interested in "changes of ownership" high muckymucks in SCO itself think are worth making. There's also the most recent quarterly report as well as many others.

Download this 25+ MB file instead!

Quite a bit. If you look at the history of SCO, half the time they were working on Linux alongside UNIX. I'm sure a lot of SCO employees developed an affinity for Linux.

The file was removed... already. Here's another...

A 36.6mb ZIP from the SCO Authorized Eduaction Partner program from here

or wget: (removing the space in 'zip')
wget sco.com/images/pdf/education/SCO_AEP_posterfiles.z ip