Domain: semanticweb.org
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Some tools
http://protege.stanford.edu/ Java Desktop Application.,Used to define/manage ontologies. Not sure if they have a web version meanwhile and if comes close to what you need. However it supports plugins, perhaps the frontend can be adapted to access a centralized DB. Oh, found it: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/We...égé.html
This is a info page with an overview about various tools: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Did you stumble over this: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki...? Dozens of various tools mentioned.
Another tool, I stumbled iver, but did not use it yet: http://oboedit.org/
And then there is https://jena.apache.org/docume...
But that is more a programming API to dynamically create classes to store/manage data in an ontology described database. (Did not use it yet, but looks promizing)And then we have this: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/To...
BTW, I can offer remote programming/assistance in such tools.
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Some tools
http://protege.stanford.edu/ Java Desktop Application.,Used to define/manage ontologies. Not sure if they have a web version meanwhile and if comes close to what you need. However it supports plugins, perhaps the frontend can be adapted to access a centralized DB. Oh, found it: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/We...égé.html
This is a info page with an overview about various tools: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Did you stumble over this: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki...? Dozens of various tools mentioned.
Another tool, I stumbled iver, but did not use it yet: http://oboedit.org/
And then there is https://jena.apache.org/docume...
But that is more a programming API to dynamically create classes to store/manage data in an ontology described database. (Did not use it yet, but looks promizing)And then we have this: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/To...
BTW, I can offer remote programming/assistance in such tools.
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Towards a social semantic desktop
See my comments here: http://ibiblio.org/pjones/blog/looking-back-on-noemail-at-6-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-441324
And here: http://groups.google.com/group/diaspora-dev/browse_thread/thread/4cd369bdf16a346f
And here: http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing/msg/576771df555e729f
And a related back-burner open source project by me (being passed by): http://sourceforge.net/projects/pointrel/
And by others: http://www.semanticdesktop.org/
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Semantic_Desktop
"The Internet, electronic mail, and the Web have revolutionized the way we communicate and collaborate - their mass adoption is one of the major technological success stories of the 20th century. We all are now much more connected, and in turn face new resulting problems: information overload caused by insufficient support for information organization and collaboration. For example, sending a single file to a mailing list multiplies the cognitive processing effort of filtering and organizing this file times the number of recipients - leading to more and more of peoples' time going into information filtering and information management activities. There is a need for smarter and more fine-grained computer support for personal and networked information that has to blend the boundaries between personal and group data, while simultaneously safeguarding privacy and establishing and deploying trust among collaborators. The Semantic Web holds promises for information organization and selective access, providing standards means for formulating and distributing metadata and Ontologies. Still, we miss a wide use of Semantic Web technologies on personal computers. ..." -
Re:Levels in a book
However, a problem with such books is that with material fragmented so much and the structure not visible directly, it is harder for someone to grasp the overall structure of knowledge in the domain if they're first getting oriented.
You can choose to provide, on top of with the multi-level structure:
1. many different "discourses" - linear/navigational paths inside the content. It's like providing many linear books build from the same content (your "prev/next page" nav bar flies on top of the content - instead of being embedded in the pages - and reacts to whatever "ToC" is loaded)
2. Different ontologies to organize the same content based on whatever "knowledge structures" are applicable.Better yet, if you feel generous, you may provide tools for whatever reader to organize their own discourses/ontologies and share them with others
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Ah, now maybe I understand...
... why Mozilla has not made a social semantic desktop with all that vast amount of money. No search engine advertising revenues?
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Semantic_Desktop
"The Internet, electronic mail, and the Web have revolutionized the way we communicate and collaborate - their mass adoption is one of the major technological success stories of the 20th century. We all are now much more connected, and in turn face new resulting problems: information overload caused by insufficient support for information organization and collaboration. For example, sending a single file to a mailing list multiplies the cognitive processing effort of filtering and organizing this file times the number of recipients ? leading to more and more of peoples' time going into information filtering and information management activities. There is a need for smarter and more fine-grained computer support for personal and networked information that has to blend the boundaries between personal and group data, while simultaneously safeguarding privacy and establishing and deploying trust among collaborators.
The Semantic Web holds promises for information organization and selective access, providing standards means for formulating and distributing metadata and Ontologies.
Still, we miss a wide use of Semantic Web technologies on personal computers. ..."But maybe sour grapes on my part as I applied for a job at Mozilla a couple months ago, suggesting upgrading Thunderbird into such a thing, and never heard back. I've been trying on-and-off on my own for years towards that SSD end, but some finanical support (and teamwork) would help me have time to focus on it more and help make it happen:
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Around 1993-94, at the Penn State Library...
... I saw the web for the first time at a public computer while researching our garden simulator. I was not impressed. Back then I had used Hypercard and Smalltalk, and it just seemed like we could do a whole lot better, and I had been thinkign about how to do that. I still feel that way a bit, alhough obviously the linking idea has worked well, HTML and http had broad powers in their simplicity, even with links not being first class objects and virtual machines not being standardized, and so on. So, first impressions can be misleading, although I still feel there are major missing pieces or standards. We need to push on to a social semantic desktop, IMHO, and I've tried some in that direction myself...
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Semantic_Desktop
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pointrel/By the way, a little known fact -- the 1950s short story "The Skills of Xanadu" by Theodore Sturgeon, about a culturally sophisticated networked culture that "defeats" a huge military empire that comes to conquer it, inspired Ted Nelson to work on hypertext (I asked Ted Nelson about this directly when he gave a talk at at IBM Research, and he had forgotten the name of the story, but that's where the name came from), and then his work obviously was one of the inspirations of the web. The story is floating around on the web, like in Google Books:
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Semantic (Tagged) Filesystems
Take a look at tagged filesystems. You can do the same thing by hand using symlinks but with much greater pain.
http://www.tagsistant.net/
http://nascent.freeshell.org/programming/TagFS/
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemFSThe following are not really filesystems. You need to use specific programs to search the tag space.
http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~marriaga/software/oyepa/
http://blueslugs.com/2005/07/12/tag1-delicious-style-file-tagging/ -
My vote: Supporting a social semantic desktop
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Use the cloud for a Social Semantic Desktop
The Pointrel approach towards that by me: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pointrel/
But see also NEPOMUK etc. http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Semantic_Desktop
Working towards use as FOSS public intelligence tools: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1746980&cid=33177866 -
Re:Dynamic DNSAbout 25 years ago in the UK, it was common for wall outlets to have a switch built in to them. Don't know if they still do that. Yep, we still have that. Over-engineered monstrosities, solid 3 (rectangular, not round) pins and an on/off switch at every socket (but not typically on 4/8/12 bar extensions you buy at retail - some do, some don't) - with the exception of bathrooms which may only have the universal 12 volt 2 pin adapter in them.
Earth on all of them, except certain devices - the exact criteria for which I'm sure of (typically applies to lightweight things like xmas tree decoration lights), they often just have a plastic pin where earth would be - AFAIK this is required to push back some gubbins inside the socket - without which you won't get any power I gather (i.e. even if you are retarded enough to stick a fork in a socket AND turn it on it won't kill you, although I've never confirmed that).
They look like this (that one is apparently Irish, same thing though). You can find them on trains too, switches and all (so you can plug your gadget stuff in while you travel).
It's all very safety conscious, and there is quite strict legislation governing the fitting of sockets and rings in a house, and power cabling and the selling of goods with plugs (i.e. if they must be molded plugs or not, if a device is required to be earthed, etc etc.).
Personally I love the plugs and sockets here. You always know when they are in, and they don't dick you around by falling out unexpectedly and you don't have to unplug something to turn it off. The downside of the design is they are more bulky, and that is a nuisance with portable devices (e.g. if you just want to take a small laptop or PDA wall socket recharger the damn plugs don't fold down so always stick out irritatingly if you have a slim line case/bag).
I am always worried by using US sockets, I've seen them spark, cables almost always wiggle and I can't help but wonder how many electrical accidents there are as a result of what seems a flimsy design. I've less experience of european sockets, which seem similar but not quite as flimsy. I don't know if the quality of US sockets varies.
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Semantic Web ~- evilThe article does a pretty bad job at explaining the situation. The idea behind the Semantic Web is simply to provide a framework for information to be marked up for machines rather than human eyes. The idea is that using an agreed upon frame of reference for the symbols contained in the page (an ontology), agents are able to make use of the information contained there. Further, an agent can collection data from several different ontologies and (hopefully) perform basic reasoning tasks over that data, and (even better) complete some advanced tasks for the agent's user.
The article would have us believe that this is going to expose everyone to massive amounts of privacy invasion. This is not necessarily the case. It is already the case that there are privacy mechanisms to protect information in the SW (e.g. require agents to authenticate to a site to retrieve restricted information). Beyond simple mechanisms, there is a lot of research being conducted on the idea of trust in the semantic web - e.g. how does my agent know to trust a slashdot article as absolute truth and a wikipedia article as outright fabrication (or vice versa).
As for making the content of the internet widely available, some researchers feel this will never happen. As another commenter noted that it is essential that there is agreement in the definition of concepts (ontologies) to enable the SW to work (if my agent believes the symbol "apple" refers to the concept Computer, and your agent believes it refers to "garbage", we may have some interesting but less than useful results). I am researching ontology generation using information extraction / NLP techniques, and it is certainly a difficult problem, and one that isn't likely to have a trivial problem (in some respects, this is goes back to the origins of AI in the 1950's, and we're still hacking at it today).
For some good references on the Semantic Web (beyond Wikipedia), check out some of these links
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Re:How is this new?
Thank you.
It's another step towards the semantic web. -
Looking for Answers...
...like the Semantic Web?
No, I don't know why it's being relaunched. My guess is that it's probably one of the answers that we are looking for in the age of search that didn't quite cut it. But isn't that what all these different meta-searches are talking about? The ability to get semantic meaning imbued into the web? -
Re:"Where's some semantic web software?"
Slashdot ran an article on Bibster some time ago, which uses Semantic Web technology under the hood.
Then there are the entries for the Semantic Web Challenge, organized by the ISWC, which have some interesting and useful applications.
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Does this mean they will sue Gov Agencies too?
I'm reffering of course to the Bibster project
Bibster Partners and Participants Which is aimed at the shareing of scientific and research documents. All of which are by the fact that they are published, copyrighted works under the Berlin Treaty. Amazing how the world looks when you suffer from cerebral anal insertion syndrome(CAIS). Guess you can't trust those dadgum anti-American fools in them there Unerversilties. They might growed up and learned hows to think fer dem selbes. -
RDF Crawlers
A lot of RDF out there is in FOAF and RSS 1.0 vocabularies. Increasingly, people use to link RDF files, which makes it possible to have RDF crawlers ("scutters") harvest RDF from the web. I have an RDF aggregator service running that crawls the semantic web. There's a lot of useless broken RDF out there, so if you put RDF on your web site please use W3C's RDF Validator to check for valid RDF.
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Semantic Web: best solutionReal breakthrouhs in search technology are likely to come from Semantic Web technoligies: using standards like RDF, OWL, etc. for document markup based on content type (using standard ontology definitions).
The technology for the Semantic Web is good enough - people and organizations just have to be willing to add semantic markup. This will enable what I would call knowledge based search. Some good tools are:
RDF and semantic web tools for Swi-Prolog
-Mark
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The future of the webThe web was never intended to be a browser-only environment. From the start, it was intended to be a medium that would be useful for a wide varity of user agents, crawling for info and presenting compiled and digested information to the user.
This was not ever realized, I believed mostly because of overpaid "web designers".
But the Semantic Web would require many funny user agents for all kinds of things.
Clearly, if this kind of thinking is allowed to persist in corporate headquarters, it will kill the Semantic Web before it gets started.
I wonder what Tim Berners-Lee thinks about this...
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Re:A Medium-Term Solution at Besthow do they decide which tags to use in which circumstances, and how will every semantic browser know all the tags?
I suggest you to read about ontologies. Every "Semantic Web Server" might publish an ontology which describes what objects knows and how they are related. When a client or search engine wants to read the remote web, has also to check the published ontology and compare it to its own.
but it's more work.
So it's necessary to have good authoring tools that minimizes the overhead to publish content. Anyway, businesses will have the incentive to spend that more work in order to have a correct ontology that accurately describes its products, so they may be the initial providers of meta-content.
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Web Services and Related Infrastructure
XML, SOAP (aka XML Protocol), WSDL (or something like it), UDDI (or something like it) are the place to start. Still an immature area so there will be more acronyms to "learn" in the future. Still a lot of "infrastructure" pieces needed for success and wide adoption.
Also sure to be hot and somewhat related is the Semantic Web. In many ways this is the way the Web should already be.
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Better MetadataWhile the idea would probably do some good if widely adopted what's really needed is to reduce the need for text based indexing of web sites but increasing the amount of explict semantic information about its content.
Marking up pages with information about the meaning of the terms on them is the main thrust of the work on semantic web - see http://www.daml.org/ (for DAML - the DARPA Agent Markup Language), http://www.semanticweb.org/ (One of the main information sources) and finally the new W3C activity on the subject: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/.
How far, how fast it will go is another matter but there's certainly a lot of interest in creating a more "machine readable" web.
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Memetic epidemicVery interesting, but I can't help wondering if they're trying to do "top down" programming while "bottoms up" drunk.
Dis Semantics Web page on inference engines is suffering syntax.
There'll be alot of "You know what I mean, right ?" , nose flicking, secret pig latin codes, lipograms, monkeys-at-a-typewriter, Voynich artwork, McLuhan collages, the Beatle's song "I Am The Walrus", or on the darker side, like Frankenstein's monster; something that lived without first consulting planned parenthood.
Memetic epidemics.The RDF stuff is interesting.
Imagine though the problems with semantic grammars.
In Britain and many of its colonies, they drive on the left and sit on the right. In Japan, Turkey etc. they use Lukasiewicz's RPN form: (SOV) Subject-Object-Verb which can be very tricky for "someone who drives on the right side of the road" to get used to. Alot of semantic accidents will happen.Driving with diplomatic immunity.
Just give me a passport,a flu shot
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The Semantic WebWebQL looks like an interesting hack, but have a look at the semantic web project for people trying to do it properly.
The Semantic Web Page is a good starting point.
TBLs personal notes Is another one. Probably the best one, actually."The Semantic Web" was a term coined by Tim Berners-Lee (we all know who that is, don't we?) to describe a www-like global knowledge base, which when combined with some simple logic forms a really interesting KR system. His thesis is that early hypertext systems died of too much structure limiting scalability, and current KR systems (like CYC) have largely failed for similar reasons. The Semantic Web is an attempt to do KR in a web-like way.
This really could be the next major leap in the evolution of the web. Do yourself a favour and check it out. And it's not based on hacks for screen-scraping HTML, it's based on real KR infrastructure.