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Ask Slashdot: Huge Digital Media Libraries

An anonymous reader writes "Like many slashdotters, I have several TB of digital media: music, books, movies, tv shows, games, comics, you name it. I've put it all in a few HDs, but handling it all has proven to be less than optimal. I'm covered when it comes to music, since [pretty much any music player/library manager] allows me to quickly find songs by interpreter, album, genre... For everything else, all I have is a series of hierarchical folder structures, but hierarchies have limitations. I can find Blade Runner easily, but what if I wanted all of Scott Ridley's films? Where is 'Good Omens', in the Terry Pratchett folder or in Neil Gaiman's? Furthermore, in a collection with hundreds of similar items, it would help to have some extra clues such as covers (for comic books) or synopsis for TV shows' episodes. Do you have any software to help you handle digital media libraries? Specialized software (say, something that only work for comics, something else for movies), or generic media libraries? Opensource alternatives are preferred, but commercial software is fine as well."

361 comments

  1. Nope by Anrego · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I tend to just use directories of symlinks on the odd occasion where I want a logical collection of something. Kind of the hacked file system equivalent of a playlist. I can even put additional detail in the symlink name that I would leave out of my “main tree”. Generally though, a simple hierarchical structure has worked fine for me and my 6+ TB of media. If I anticipate wanting to search for something down the road, I also sometimes put it in the file name (indexed by slocate every night).

    You are probably looking for a tagging/metadata tool but I think the problem with those is you have to obsessively tag/provide that metadata and they aren’t going to integrate with all your favourite viewers and such. It just seems more trouble than it’s worth to me, but with different levels of motivation and borderline OCD, it could work very well (and probably does for many).

    1. Re:Nope by Whalou · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm on a Mac and I use Delicious Library

      My brother uses the different products from Collectorz which run on a bunch of platforms.

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    2. Re:Nope by stms · · Score: 0

      The simplest solution is just to use directories and if you want to find something specific say all films by Scott Ridley's for example films just search IMDB. Sure its not as clean cut as say Songbird or iTunes but it works.

    3. Re:Nope by Hatta · · Score: 1

      The real solution to this problem is a database filesystem. I know these have been tried with varying degrees of success in the past. Why aren't they more common today?

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    4. Re:Nope by Nutria · · Score: 2

      I tend to just use directories of symlinks

      Symlinks FTW!!!

      It lets you organize your music by artist and your movies alphabetically then symlink them in 25 jillion ways so as to organize them any way you want.

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    5. Re:Nope by mario_grgic · · Score: 3, Informative

      A filesystem is a database, just not relational database (if that's what you mean by database). Mac OS X has filesystem with extensive metadata attributes, and Spotlight that allows you to query based on that metadata (including classical UNIX ones like created/modified/accessed dates). It works really well, it's fast and manages huge libraries really well.

      I'm so used to it that I can't imagine using OS/filesystem that does not have some sort of support for it.

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    6. Re:Nope by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Because user tag-able metadata accomplishes the same thing and is supported by most file systems aside from NTFS, as I pointed out in a later post. WinFS was supposed to be designed around it on Windows platforms, but sadly it is no more. Most file system searches that support metadata tagging have searches that work similarly to relational databases (i.e. you can AND, OR, NOT, etc).

    7. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will second the vote for Delicious library. If it has a bar code, you can enter things using a video camera or a portable bar code scanner and an internet connection to get data from online databases. You can add your books, movies and software (music?) to any "bookshelf" you want. You can then sort the views of these shelves by lots of the data on each record.

    8. Re:Nope by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Really? How do you use that? If I have my MP3s on an EXT4 filesystem, and want to use file system metadata instead of ID3 tagging, what tools would I use? Is there a metadata aware version of 'ls'?

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    9. Re:Nope by cababunga · · Score: 1

      Look for getfattr and setfattr utilities. It shouldn't be difficult to script something to dump ID3 tags using id3info and import them into extended attributes using setfattr. Though I have no idea how to find a file by extended attribute.

    10. Re:Nope by TobiasTheCommie · · Score: 1

      Agreed. A good hierarchy should make it easy to manage in and of itself.

      Combine a good directory structure with something like xbmc.org would give you the ability to use a remote control, and add thumbnails/preview/plot to your media in various ways. It can scrape sites for information if you use the build in library, but i have found the library to be rather useless.

      At 7+ TB of data, i have rarely found the need for anything other than XBMC (plus a few useful plugins) and a good directory structure.

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    11. Re:Nope by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      I use hard links. Everything by Ridley Scott is in the movies/directed_by/Ridley_Scott directory, everything based on a Phillip K. Dick story is in the movies/story_by/Phillip_K._Dick directory, everything from 1982 is in movies/year_released/1982. I can delete things at will without fear of suddenly creating dangling symlinks.

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    12. Re:Nope by icebraining · · Score: 1

      But then you won't really delete them, just remove that link. How's that any better?

    13. Re:Nope by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      If you don't understand the differences between Symbolic Links and Hard Links I highly encourage you to read-up and learn.

    14. Re:Nope by icebraining · · Score: 1

      I know the difference. rm'ing a hardlink does not delete the other hardlinks, nor does it delete the file if one or more links still point to it, it just reduces the link counter.

      In fact, that's in the wiki page you linked to:

      If one of the links is removed with the POSIX unlink function (for example, with the UNIX 'rm' command), then the data are still accessible through any other link that remains.

      So, I ask again: since you need to remove all hardlinks anyway, what's the advantage?

    15. Re:Nope by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

      1. How do you deal with hard-linking to directories (i.e., a VIDEO_TS directory or higher level directory)?
      2. How do you find and delete every last hard link when you want to delete something?
      3. What's wrong with leaving dangling symlinks upon deletion, and then running a script to clean them up?

    16. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing getfattr is in the core-utils-american metapackage?

    17. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm on a Mac and I use Delicious Library

      My brother uses the different products from Collectorz which run on a bunch of platforms.

      Or you could just use spotlight? Thats what I have been using and it works fine for me.

    18. Re:Nope by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      1. How do you deal with hard-linking to directories (i.e., a VIDEO_TS directory or higher level directory)?

      Just about everything I own has been ripped to a single file; if if I needed to, I'd create a directory (they're small compared to media files) and hard link everything in it.

      2. How do you find and delete every last hard link when you want to delete something?

      Why would I want to delete something? Storage is cheap. (OK, let's assume I discover I've got a Tracy Lords porn flick, illegal to own since it was discovered that she was underage when she made them. In that case, you just search for everything with the same inode number (or the NTFS equivalent) and unlink them as you find them. It shouldn't take any longer that searching for and deleting dangling symlinks.)

      3. What's wrong with leaving dangling symlinks upon deletion, and then running a script to clean them up?

      I don't delete stuff, I just occasionally re-tag. Using hard links means there's no "privileged" copy, whose deletion would create dangling symlinks.

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    19. Re:Nope by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

      Why would I want to delete something? Storage is cheap.

      Well, you said: "I can delete things at will without fear of suddenly creating dangling symlinks." But here's an example of why/when you would want to delete something, even if you don't delete stuff: What if you obtain a higher-quality copy of something and you want to replace the old copy with the new?

    20. Re:Nope by tzot · · Score: 1

      > I'm guessing getfattr is in the core-utils-american metapackage?

      You're mean. Mean.

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  2. That's alright by sneilan · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can admit it. Slashdot understands that you have a large *personal* media collection *AHEM*.

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    1. Re:That's alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Living in his mom's basement and never having a job are why he can afford to have such a large music collection.

    2. Re:That's alright by somersault · · Score: 1

      Or he could, you know, earn money from actually knowing "computer stuff" which other people can't be bothered to learn, but are willing to pay quite well for. Would it surprise you to know that my mother doesn't even have a basement? And that I don't even live in her house? I also have a large music and media collection, though I can't be assed ripping all the movies. More likely I will be on a monthly HD streaming service before I ever need to do that.

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    3. Re:That's alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like someone got trolled.

    4. Re:That's alright by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or he could just work at Best Buy, as when I filled in there for a few days for a friend I found damned near all the guys in the back had USB drives with .bat files to rip every tune, video, and naughty pics that crossed their desks.

      As for TFA the AMD Fusion Media Explorer is free and pretty nice, or you can create all kinds of custom libraries in Windows 7 pretty easy. That said it would be a royal PITA to fill in all the blanks but it sounds like what you are wanting is a media DB. Making your own DB isn't hard (just the filling in the shitload of data is hard) and with your own DB you can add as much or little info as you like and sort any way you want.

      So there are several ways you can go about it and none are more "right" than another, it is more of a personal preference thing really. I use WMP 12 for my tunes and Windows 7 MC software for my video, works for me, but it may be too much or too little for you just depending on how deep you want to go here.

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    5. Re:That's alright by hoggoth · · Score: 1

      I feel OP's pain. Does this film go under "Bukkakke" or by the actresses name?

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    6. Re:That's alright by mjwx · · Score: 1

      You can admit it. Slashdot understands that you have a large *personal* media collection *AHEM*.

      So it has to be organised in a /. friendly way. May I suggest the binary porn classification.

      0 Solo (female) or lesbian.
      1 Solo (male).
      01 Straight.
      11 Gay.
      010 Threesome.
      101 DP.
      1010 multiple couples.
      1001 goat.

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    7. Re:That's alright by kmoser · · Score: 1

      1000 Goatse.
      1001 2girls1cup.
      1010 MILFs.

      Where does it end?

  3. Try using the user interface by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    There's a little box at top-right of the file explorer window. You can type words there...

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    1. Re:Try using the user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, there isn't.
      At least I have no idea how to find it in Windows 7.
      There isn't even an "Edit -> Find" option anymore. :\

    2. Re:Try using the user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you feel guilty for your sarcasm yet?

    3. Re:Try using the user interface by adonoman · · Score: 1

      Seriously?

      • Method 1: Click on the little circle in the bottom left (or hit the "Win" key on your keyboard) and start typing.
      • Method 2: Open an explorer window and type in the little box on the far top left, just under the "X". (Or hit ctrl-f) Here's an image in case you're having trouble.

      Once you're there you can either use a full-text search, or use filters like "Tags:", "Rating:", "Genre:", or "Artist:" to search though metadata.

    4. Re:Try using the user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As Joce640k said, in Windows 7 and Windows Vista there is a search box in the upper right hand corner of explorer windows. Type your search there. Dump all of the stuff into one folder if you like and sort it out by metadata. Using search obviates that clunky hierarchies of folders, hard links, symlinks (when you want to categories by more than one thing or by director or something). Just tag it and search it.

    5. Re:Try using the user interface by prodevel · · Score: 1

      It's really always too slow. Try "Everything". Speedy in Win7 anyway.

    6. Re:Try using the user interface by psithurism · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's what I do. except on linux, the command is locate. If it happens that the file didn't follow your naming conventions, I can usually find it in a few variations of : locate | grep | grep

      Where is 'Good Omens'

      $ locate -i "good omens"
      $ locate -i good | grep -i omens
      /external_1/ebooks/pdfs/TerryPratchet/Good-Omens.pdf

      Didn't need any soft links or databases or anything fancy.

    7. Re:Try using the user interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He might not be using Windows.... Many slasdotters use their favorite *nix.

      Also, this is probably the LEAST efficient way to search for content, especially when searching within the large volume we are talking about here. Takes a couple of minutes to search a 500GB drive that is full; now think about doing the same thing with 3-5TB across a network. Not going to work so well in my mind. I wish I had something else to add other than what I think he is NOT looking for. Personally I have a simple folder structure where I know where everything belongs, and that is it. Since I am really the only one who needs it, it does everything I need, and therefore I probably wouldn't find much use for a UI that is only going to provide a method of accessing whatever it is I am looking for at the time. The only real benefit I might find from such a piece of software would be the ability to catalog and tag things so that it would be somewhat simpler to browse for specific content (i.e., movies by actor/director, a PDF/eBook by its contents rather than its title, etc.).

      Dammit, now I'm gonna have to start looking for something that will do all of this. Thanks a lot for that one, OP.

    8. Re:Try using the user interface by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Did you miss the part where he has several terabytes of data? Have fun waiting the next entire minute for your search results.

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    9. Re:Try using the user interface by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's really good at finding matches in Word Documents and PowerPoint Presentations - if only it could find matches in simple Unicode text files.

      No, seriously, try this test procedure:

      • Open Notepad and type "Hello World!"
      • Use File/Save As... to save ANSI, Unicode, Unicode Big-endian and UTF-8 versions of the file in a folder somewhere.
      • Navigate to your chosen folder with Explorer and type "hello" in the search box.
      • Shed a tear because it only finds the ANSI version of your text file.

      It's only been broken since NT 4.0, not like it's useful or important to search Unicode text files or anything.

    10. Re:Try using the user interface by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      Everything is bloody awesome, but doesn't it only search file names?

    11. Re:Try using the user interface by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Windows XP command window (a.k.a. DOS box) has a grep-like utility called FINDSTR. I use it rather a lot at work. Will search file contents. Not as nice as DCL "Search" but it'll do.

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  4. Are you with one of the **AA's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No? Then who cares? I have 300+ DVD and BR rips from my personal library that could easily fill any decent media server. TB's of digital content != piracy.

    1. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fair use?

    2. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No. "technically" DVD and BR rips are fair use.

      Your attempt to hand Apple a stranglehold on the future on a silver platter is not appreciated.

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    3. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, "unauthorized" does not mean "illegal." You've been brainwashed by the media companies. Time and format shifting are perfectly LEGAL.

    4. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by s0litaire · · Score: 2

      Depends on the Country the Poster is in!
      In the UK there's NO "Fair Use" clause for copying digital media.
      You can't legally rip that CD/DVD/Blu-ray for personal use...

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    5. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      doesn't matter, he didn't ask slashdot for permission to download shit.

    6. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gives a crap about laws bought by the **AA and their friends.

      I have the right to copy any media that I own. I gave myself that right.

      They have the right to try to stop me and I wish them the best of luck with that.

    7. Re:Are you with one of the **AA's? by QuantumBeep · · Score: 1

      Just because some greedy bastard says you're stealing doesn't make it true.

      In general, stuff only has to be bought once. Any more and it's the bastard that's stealing from you.

  5. Re:Oh really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe he got copies of commercial media from his friends. This is legal in some countries. For example in Germany it's perfectly fine to distribute up to 7 (rule of thumb) copies of an audio CD among your real-life friends. This copyright law exception not widely known though.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatkopie (no English article available)

  6. Data crow by cmiu007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Use data crow and make a container for every HDD. It works for music, movies(imdb details import) and software. http://www.datacrow.net/

    1. Re:Data crow by Causemos · · Score: 1

      Thanks, Data Crow is new to me and looks fairly good (first impressions). I still have to figure out how easy it is to get data into it, and how good the export features are.

      I've been in limbo since Collectorz destroyed their product by removing the web scraping features a couple years ago (they removed one of the best features and called it an "upgrade").

  7. Fedora Repository by oneiros27 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just use what the libraries use:

    Fedora

    What you're looking for in general is either a repository (if you want it to manage the files) or a catalog (if you want it to just track info about the files). A catalog might also be called a 'registry' when dealing with sciences archives, where the term 'catalog' is used for something else.

    For more options, see any of the following lists on wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_institutional_repository_software
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Digital_library_software
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_next-generation_library_catalogs

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    1. Re:Fedora Repository by croddy · · Score: 2

      It would be awesome if there were a FUSE front-end to Fedora Commons.

      Well, actually, one does exist, and it actually is awesome, but it's currently trapped in managerial IP strategery hell somewhere in the bowels of the most dysfunctional IT department in academia, so I guess I should say it would be awesome if there were another, distributable one.

    2. Re:Fedora Repository by GrantRobertson · · Score: 1

      This is great! Thanks for the link. I was going to suggest that the OP "just do what libraries do" but I I didn't have specific info to reference what exactly libraries use other than the high-dollar programs they have to get grants to buy.

    3. Re:Fedora Repository by TheTyrannyOfForcedRe · · Score: 1

      There are a couple perfectly good FUSE based tagging filesystems for Linux that fit the bill just fine. You get to keep your data on the filesystem of your choice (ext, btrfs, etc) and then mount the tagging filesystem with a pointer to the data store. I posted a list of them in another comment below. Search for "Semantic (Tagged) Filesystems".

      Fedora Commons is far too heavyweight for my taste.

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  8. Media Library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I created my own, Completely searchable (by actor, director, genre and more) with data from IMDB, NetFlix and Amazon as each titles is added. Complete movie and tv episode sysnopsis as well.

    1. Re:Media Library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AniDB is great for Anime but nothing like that exists for other media.

    2. Re:Media Library by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Tried GCStar? It can fetch info for books and movies, at least.

  9. Heirarchy by subject matter? by LordStormes · · Score: 1

    /var/media/video/bondage/ ?

    1. Re:Heirarchy by subject matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "1-dimensional" hierarchies are rather limited. Let's say you want to browse your media not only by subject but also by creation date, e.g.: /var/media/video/bondage/2011/ /var/media/video/groupsex/2011/

      It gets increasingly tedious to browse for "all videos from 2011" with an increasing number of subjects. That is why tag systems exist and also why MP3 ID3v2 sucks, unlike Vorbis Comments (used in FLAC and Ogg).

    2. Re:Heirarchy by subject matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes but movies can be several things at once, are you going to symlink a movie into 20 different directories?
      /var/media/video/faye.valentine/pornucopia.25.divx
      /var/media/video/sasha.grey/pornucopia.25.divx
      /var/media/video/mff/pornucopia.25.divx
      /var/media/video/natural.tits/pornucopia.25.divx
      /var/media/video/redheads/pornucopia.25.divx
      /var/media/video/rope.bondage/pornucopia.25.divx


      That would work but it's a pain in the ass, there must be a better way.

    3. Re:Heirarchy by subject matter? by pahles · · Score: 1

      Somehow I imagine that could be a pain in the ass, yes!

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    4. Re:Heirarchy by subject matter? by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but how do you break down 3TB of data below that?

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    5. Re:Heirarchy by subject matter? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Has Piers Anthony's novel Pornucopia been made into a film now? I have both the first edition hardcover and the first edition paperback, but I thought Piers sorta was keeping it an underground novel.

    6. Re:Heirarchy by subject matter? by LordStormes · · Score: 1

      ./pvc ./shibari ./ducttape ? ;)

  10. hardlinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use multipull links to the same file.
    thats what they are there for.

    and directorys are your catagorizing unit.

    the more work you put into building and keeping a good schema the better off you'll be

    1. Re:hardlinks by andrea.sartori · · Score: 1

      I use multipull links to the same file.

      So you can pull files from different locations?
      (Sorry. Couldn't resist)

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  11. you have a database configured right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dude, all you need to do to get the results you are describing is to set up a relational database! you can easily do this with MySQL for instance. simple queries will yield the results you are looking for, even the neil gaimen / terry pratchett title depending of course on how you related your tables to one another.

  12. Calibre, open source ebook manager by metrometro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Used iTunes? It's like that for books but less bloated. Syncs to many devices, and can scrape RSS feeds from magazines, build them into EPUBs and sync them to an ereader, like a text-based podcast. This works surprisingly well, superior in some ways to reading the same material on the Web.

    And it's FLOSS.

    http://calibre-ebook.com/about

    1. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be warned, the UI is really ugly with strange icons (Hearts and stuff) and non-standard interface.

    2. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I had downloaded calibre once just to convert a couple file formats, but I never realized it could do that RSS stuff. Going to have to spend some time exploring it further.

    3. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by metrometro · · Score: 1

      > Be warned, the UI is really ugly with strange icons (Hearts and stuff) and non-standard interface.

      Well, I did say it was FLOSS, didn't I?

      Honestly, it's no worse than Windows Media Center, which I can't even figure out. Why does everything have to have an album cover? Why?

    4. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by Cryolithic · · Score: 1

      It runs like *SHIT* on large collections of books. Try importing about 4gb of txt books in it :(

    5. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by nullgraph · · Score: 2

      I have tried Calibre and much as I would like to use it as my book management program, I also would like to maintain control over the directory structure, which Calibre refuses to let me. In their own words, from the FAQ:

      "Why doesn’t calibre let me store books in my own directory structure?
      The whole point of calibre‘s library management features is that they provide a search and sort based interface for locating books that is much more efficient than any possible directory scheme you could come up with for your collection."

      Efficient? Maybe, but this basically means that my book collection is tied up with Calibre for the rest of my life.

    6. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too use Calibre for my ebooks, and it works very well. It works great for storing/sorting/converting books.

      I would not compare it to that iTunes crapware :P but it's a create tool for management of your ebooks.

    7. Re:Calibre, open source ebook manager by gwynevans · · Score: 1

      Efficient? Maybe, but this basically means that my book collection is tied up with Calibre for the rest of my life.

      Not really - just treat it's directory tree as a DB and recall you can easily export it to whatever structure/format you want, whenever you want.

  13. Don't forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can always look in the trash bin for Uwe Boll, at least it should be there unless someone misfiled it in the junk folder.

  14. purge by anyaristow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How much of it do you really re-watch? You'll spend the rest of your life transferring it from medium to medium. Is it worth it?

    1. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much of it do you really re-watch? You'll spend the rest of your life transferring it from medium to medium. Is it worth it?

      This.

      He'll be spending more time organising and categorising all that content than he'll spend watching it. Then again, maybe filing stuff is his hobby.

      One of the more liberating things I did was delete my audio/video archive. No more trouble categorising, no more constant background music, no more transferring loads of data from HD to HD. Suprisingly a huge media library is one of these things you're better off without.

    2. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the realistic, mature approach. But this is a website where people ask, in all seriousness, how to archive ten year's worth of emails...

    3. Re:purge by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ditto! Even though the ones I bought (regretting that :P). I stopped buying movies and TV/television shows. I just borrow/stream online/download.

      I do keep my music though since once in a while I listen to my old tunes including MIDI/MID, MOD, S3M, XM, IT, 669, video game tunes, etc.. :)

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      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    4. Re:purge by mikael_j · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I spend very little time organizing and transferring my media library.

      The current array that it resides on has been pretty much untouched for close to two years, just chugging along (getting a bit cramped for space though).

      Yes, you can definitely take it too far but just keeping copies of your favorite TV shows, movies and CDs in one place can also be extremely convenient. Of course, I mainly organize it into "film/movies", "film/TV", "film/documentaries", "music/singles", "music/albums" and let the applications I use deal with sorting (as long as you name stuff properly software like XBMC or Plex can figure this out for you, downloading metadata from the internet).

      I see it as an issue of balance based on various factors. Either extreme (no media at all or a copy of everything you ever come across) can be inconvenient (although I'd rather go with "no media" than deal with keeping a gargantuan 15+ TB library accessible), you just need to find the right balance.

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    5. Re:purge by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      > How much of it do you really re-watch? You'll spend the rest
      > of your life transferring it from medium to medium. Is it worth it?

      That has to be the lamest media-luddite excuse yet.

      Are you kidding?

      You just copy it any time you get a new and bigger drive. It's no different than old pictures, audio files, ebooks or music in this respect.

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    6. Re:purge by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Hardly.

      Data is infinitely durable. It's also not a terrible bother to copy 1MB, 10G or 10TB. The computer does all the work. You just tell it what you want done and wait for it to finish. This hasn't changed since the days of Commodore 64s and floppy drives.

      Sorting things out is a technology issue and really no different than how you would deal with the same content from any outside source on "the cloud".

      If you can't sort through a few videos locally, how can you hope to sort through many orders of magnitude more with an online source?

      This media-luddite mentality is a direct consequence of limited tools and and the elevation of willfull ignorance.

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      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    7. Re:purge by hedwards · · Score: 1

      I tend to do this, but it's largely because I like to have a backup of my media. Just because the RIAA wants me to buy another copy of my CDs and such if my house burns down, doesn't make that reasonable. They've got their money and I personally see no reason why I should have to buy another copy when I could just load up my backups.

      Plus, it doesn't take that much time once you've got the bulk archived and some sort of strategy in place.

    8. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh god, I hate people like you. Maybe it's worth it him. Why should that even bother you. I own thousands of DVDs and CDs and I hear crap like that from friends and family all the time (yeah, until they want to borrow one). I like ripping them and catalog them. Don't like it? Fine, don't do it, but shut up about it.

    9. Re:purge by gmaslov · · Score: 2

      Even if you never re-watch 99% of it, it's still worth keeping the whole 100%, because there is no way to know in advance which 1% you will want to re-watch.

      I don't think anyone spends a lot of time going through their old media collection, casting about for things to revisit (unless they are very bored). My most common use case is when something suddenly reminds me of a specific song or movie that I last saw 5 years ago, or it comes up in conversation, and makes me want to go back and watch it again. If I then discover that I destroyed it in the Great Purge of 2003, it makes me a very sad panda.

    10. Re:purge by Have+Brain+Will+Rent · · Score: 1

      Depends on what it is... music I would likely listen to over and over so even the least popular (to me) single piece might be be played many times over the years. With books it is going to be a far smaller set that gets to have my attention beyond the original reading. With movies there are very few I would bother to watch more than once.

      So essentially I agree with you. Pare it down. Keep all the music - it's small anyway. Keep all the books - also small. Turf the movies that really don't deserve a second watch. TV? Turf 99% of it.

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    11. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not much of a hassle to intiate a copy, it's not like you have to transcribe the bits by hand.

      Also, there's this thing call 'friends', during these things called 'conversations' one might recommend a film or two, having it in the library and popping it onto their thumb drive before they go home is good.

      I realize that 'friends' and 'conversations' are alien concepts to the /. crowd :)

    12. Re:purge by Hatta · · Score: 4, Informative

      How much of it do you really re-watch?

      Probably only 10%. But how am I to know which 10% I'm going to want in the future?

      You'll spend the rest of your life transferring it from medium to medium.

      Sure, It'll take an hour or so to rsync onto a new array every 5 years or so. I'm going to migrate data anyway, so the question is whether I want to migrate 100GB of data or 4TB. Since rsync can run in the background, there's essentially no cost to migrating a large array.

      Is it worth it?

      Definitely! Having everything I want locally saves me time searching the internet for it. When I decide I want to use something, I don't have to wait for it to download. The effort it takes to maintain is minimal, so why not?

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    13. Re:purge by earls · · Score: 1

      And then you re-download it. BFD. Same mental disease as physical hoarders. In addition, pandas should be extinctified.

    14. Re:purge by earls · · Score: 2

      I don't get it. I'm a "media-luddite" because I've consumed the same media as you have, but delete it instead of hoarding it?

      And lets not confused "popular media" with "user created media" that can't be reobtained.

    15. Re:purge by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Or you keep "rare" data that you know is hard to get your hands on (figuratively speaking). For example, a 1080p decently high quality h.264 "rip" of a movie from the 50's or 60's that has only been released in cinemas, on VHS and on DVD (meaning whoever did the rip had access to a copy of the cinema version).

      I have a whole bunch of movies that took me ages to find and/or download and which sometimes have been hard to find again, I'm not about to delete those because re-downloading or even purchasing a copy would be if not impossible then at least very cumbersome compared to just keeping the copy I already have.

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    16. Re:purge by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      In many countries this is perfectly legal.

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    17. Re:purge by BLKMGK · · Score: 1

      Heck, I don't even do that! The NAS I use just grows and absorbs larger drives! Run out of room? Swap out one of the smaller drives for the latest largest one bought on sale, done. unRAID, which I've used for years, provides me with protection, power savings, and ability to expand pretty easily. The only issue I ever have is when I have to grow both a data drive and a parity drive, that's two steps and takes longer but my parity drives are all 2TB now and I don't think 3TB is going to be usable for awhile.

      I collect lots of ISO for Linux, TV shows, Music, Movies, and yeah eBooks too although those are tiny. Disk is cheap, why wouldn't you hang onto stuff? It's better resolution and clarity than anything streaming for sure!

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    18. Re:purge by arb+phd+slp · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. I'm a "media-luddite" because I've consumed the same media as you have, but delete it instead of hoarding it?

      My modpoints expired, otherwise you'd have one. This is exactly my solution to the filing/sorting problem: I delete stuff.

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    19. Re:purge by georgesdev · · Score: 1

      If your house burns down, your backup burns with it, so you end up buying your CDS back, AND ALSO buy new HDDs ;)

    20. Re:purge by plover · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call it "Media-luddite." Owning the storage required to retain a copy of every bit you ever download is probably within the financial grasp of plenty of Slashdot readers. That's not the problem.

      The problem is in the *need* to retain it. Every byte you own contributes to a "technical debt" for yourself. You might have home movies stored in whatever format Kodak was transcribing things in the 1990s. You might have Flash presentations from 2001. You might have the data files from a tax return you filed on your Apple back in the 1980s. But is this data usable? Do you still have a working copy of VisiCalc? When you migrated from the IBM PC-AT, did you migrate the contents of all your 1/4" QIC tapes? Do you still have those Commodore 64 5-1/4" floppies?

      If the answer is "I still have those tapes and discs, it would be stupid to throw them away", do you know if they are readable? Does the tape machine still work? Did the adhesive binding the magnetic particles to the mylar substrate degrade over time? Do you have drivers for the old tape machine for your current OS? Do you still have a working Commodore 64 and working disk drive? If you don't run and migrate every one of those tapes right now, you're acknowledging that at least some of that old data is no longer valuable.

      My guess is that at some point you realized you were able to abandon the old, now useless data, and successfully moved on with your life. So do the other commenters. They're simply pointing out that by making those decisions today, you don't have to drag those 20-year-old unusable files forward.

      And please don't get me wrong, because I'm more like you than I am them: I still have a copy of my previous machine's hard drive on my current machine. Inside that is a copy of the machine's disk before that, and inside it a copy of the machine before that. My hard drive is like a set of Russian nesting dolls. And every so often, I'll go back one, two, or even three disk images ago and recover something cool from the past, but the vast majority of those past things are utterly useless these days. The most valuable artifacts I still have are digitized photographs of my infant son, which from that era are 320x240 GIF images - smaller than a Windows 7 icon! But really, my life would be just fine even if I didn't have that ability. The benefits of having the data are not worth much. The reason I keep it is that the cost of sorting out the useful from the useless is higher than just copying it all.

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      John
    21. Re:purge by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Once stuff is digital, the only real question is whether you have space or not.

      Beyond that, there really isn't any "burden" for having a 15 year old copy of Project Gutenberg or similarly old audio or video recordings.

      There also isn't any great burden having 1000 CDs online and at your fingertips and that was 10 years ago.

      A trivial amount of "being organized" goes a very long way. Although it helps if you learned computing before people were actively discouraged from using simple system level tools (like The Finder).

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    22. Re:purge by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      How much of it do you really re-watch? You'll spend the rest of your life transferring it from medium to medium. Is it worth it?

      Yeah, that's also why encyclopedias are useless. You won't ever look up more than 1% of all entries.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    23. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the all-media-must-stored mentality is the result of cheap commodity hardware, not the consequence of any real need. You're mentally ill if you think that because I delete most emails and don't store every tune and movie I watch that I'm a "media-luddite". You're a digital hoarder. That's a diagnosable mental illness.

    24. Re:purge by Decker-Mage · · Score: 1

      "If your house burns down, your backup burns with it, so you end up buying your CDS back, AND ALSO buy new HDDs ;)"

      Your backups may burn. Mine are in a secure facility along with all my masters and a replacement computer, although getting a standby machine doesn't cost much these days (even on a seriously limited income). Another chance to engineer a next-gen machine is not necessarily bad.

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    25. Re:purge by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, except digital data is ridiculously easy to transfer, sort through, etc. Physical objects don't have those advantages.

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    26. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense. You're a cloud-luddite, everything you want to see or read is available on-line. It doesn't matter if *you* have the space or not, *someone else* does!

      There isn't any "burden" for having an always-on internet connection and a smart phone.

      A trivial amount of wi-fi goes a long way. And sorry, storing terabytes of useless junk just because a hard drive is 80$, IS NOT "LEARNING COMPUTING". That's ASININE.

      See how easy it is to make completely baseless, absurd and ridiculous claims based on the most trivial of data?

    27. Re:purge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is exactly my solution to the filing/sorting problem: I delete stuff.

      This isn't a solution to the sorting problem; it's a solution to the hording problem.

      It's like saying racism can be solved by killing all the niggers.

    28. Re:purge by fast+turtle · · Score: 1

      The reason I keep it is that the cost of sorting out the useful from the useless is higher than just copying it all.

      Aint that the truth.

      I'm in the position of trying to decided what images I want to keep from an ever growing collection. Things I liked the looks of and grabbed online simply because it was there. Of course the problem is locating all of the duplicates with changed names, files sizes and such and there simply isn't any app that does a decent job. I used to be able to use one called PicSort but it's unsupported since Win2k and doesn't like the size of my collections as it pukes on anything larger then 1.5K collections. I used to use Dpeg but it doesn't work on WIn7-64 reliably and haven't found anything to even do a basic dupe finding for me.

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    29. Re:purge by plover · · Score: 1

      A Project Gutenberg text is one thing. An AmiWord file from 1991 is not. If you think those files will be important in the next 30 years, you'd better convert them when you migrate off the Amiga platform because you'll probably no longer own an Amiga capable of running AmiWord in 2021, nor will you own a 3.5" floppy drive that can read GCR encoded sectors. (I don't even own a working 3.5" floppy drive any more.) Dealing with the potential expiration of media is one of the "burdens."

      For example, my wife recently asked me for a copy of our association's documents of incorporation, but the original digital files remain only on 3.5" Amiga diskettes. If I wanted them to be digital once again, I'd have to scan and/or retype the dot-matrix-printed paper copies we filed with the state. I'm not paying that burden, so she got paper copies and faxed them to the requester.

      For another recent version of this problem, what do most people do with their collection of 99 cent iTunes AAC encrypted files when they migrate to a non-Apple device? My 15-year-old niece figured out she could burn them all to CDs, then rip them to her new phone, so she spent hours burning a stack of CD-Rs. There's a burden.

      In 20 years do you know if your USB memory sticks will still be readable? What about your CD-Rs and other optical media? Do you know for sure that the dyes used in their manufacture will last 20 years? Did you store them all in adequately cool, dark places? Will you still have a working spinny-disc reader, or will we all be using holographic memory crystals slotted into our skulls, laughing at the good old days of USB-3 and "external PCs", and staring at boxes of completely-unusable shiny discs?

      And if the answer is "I stuck all 1000 CDs in my machine and made local copies of each disk image", then you've already paid the burden.

      --
      John
    30. Re:purge by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 1

      This.

      I've been using it for about 6 months and it's pretty robust. I especially like the fact that the data isn't striped and it uses a standard filesystem so individual drives can be read on pretty much any Linux system. This means even a multi-drive failure won't trash all of your data. You'll only lose the few files on the bad blocks in most cases. That's getting more important as drives get larger. The greater the amount of data, the greater the probability of experiencing more than one unrecoverable read error. I'm up to 7 data drives and about to add an 8th. All 2tb. My current rig can handle 13 data drives plus parity and that's a limitation of the hardware (only have 14 SATA ports and no way to add more). The beauty of unRAID is that I could put in a new motherboard that can support more ports and keep on growing all the way up to 20 data drives. That's 40tb of fault-tolerant storage on hardware any geek can buy off the shelf.

      On the flip side, the dedicated parity drive and non-striped method of storage (it's basically a RAID-4 without striping) limits performance and the allocation method used to automatically spread the writes across multi-disk shares can make recovering from individual drives a tedious process. Still, for a media server where access is generally WORM, it works very well and tedious recovery beats non-recoverable any day of the week.

      Definitely not a system for amateurs but, if you know what you're doing, it can be very versatile.

    31. Re:purge by georgesdev · · Score: 1

      you're an exception I can tell you. and so am I

    32. Re:purge by BLKMGK · · Score: 1

      FWIW - the individual files are NOT split across multiple disks so recovery is actually not that bad. Swapping a mobo is indeed not hard, I have done that when I moved from IDE to SATA - just have a screenshot of the hardware page so you get the drives in order.

      Lastly, if you have PCIE or even PCI slots you have room for more ports. They may not be uber fast and will bottleneck during a parity swap but for streaming HD video and music it's not a problem.

      Hope that was helpful :-)

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    33. Re:purge by Decker-Mage · · Score: 1

      Don't even ask (!!) about how many times I operated without a safety-net.

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  15. XBMC ? by rrey · · Score: 2

    I never used it because I don't have TB of content but XBMC seems to be be something that could get your attention.

    1. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can back this up. It's a bit of a pain to get setup once, but once it *is* setup, XBMC is a great way to manage all this information.

      Just make sure you have your backups automated and you can setup a great Linux based HTPC with XBMC. This should allow you to search on genre / artist / director, et

    2. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've been using XBMC as a Linux HTPC for two years now.

      It's a good solution for {Music, Television, Films} hooking into {moviedb, last.fm, thetvdb.com, many more} to allow search/sort by meta data.

      It doesn't support {books, comic books, etc}.

    3. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I use XBMC in conjunction with myMovies. myMovies can save xbmc compatible .nfo files so I dont have to worry about the scrapers messing up and the info is always the same if i add another media center or rebuild the library. It really works great.

    4. Re:XBMC ? by Compaqt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was going to say this, but you already have, so I'll just expand on it.

      XBMC is great for organizing media. It has some neat features:
      -looks really nice, suitable for a living/theater room, not geeky
      -movies, pictures, sound
      -IMDB integration
      -scripts (do anything)
      -contributed lists of Internet TV stations
      -support for IR remote controls and universal remotes
      -remote playback (playing computer being separate from the storage computer)

      http://xbmc.org/

      One thing it's not really designed for is to record TV. For that, use MythTV.

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    5. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another vote for XBMC. Hands down, the best media center software available (unless you want integrated TV tuners, then look elsewhere).

    6. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also buggy as hell. Expect crashes, and strange behavior with fast-forward & rewind.

      Still, I like it better than the alternatives.

    7. Re:XBMC ? by tWoolie · · Score: 1

      the XBMC/VDR project has some pretty good work going on right now. they have some impressive stuff up on Youtube demonstrating the interface too. Just be prepared to switch to Linux/V4L compatible TV card and build xbm/vdr from source.

    8. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      on the XBMC note, I'm on a mac mini and I've been using Plex for about a year now. It works great for movies and TV shows. They just released a media server for windows, and the client has been integrated into LG Netcast, as well as android and iOS apps.

      It has functionality for pictures and music, but I use itunes and don't have many photos.

    9. Re:XBMC ? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      The only times I've ever really had crashes with MythTV is when I was running development builds. This is sort of a self inflicted thing represents a personal tradeoff rather than anything inherently wrong with MythTV itself.

      MythTV quickly won over my household of long time Tivo users.

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    10. Re:XBMC ? by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      OK, that's interesting. XBMC looks a lot nicer than MythTV, so that's good to hear.

      Is there a list of Linux/V4L compatible cards?

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    11. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's even a myth plugin for xbmc (I think called mythbox) I have at home. It allows you to control your myth just like the regular myth-frontend, only much nicer looking. Its already integrated into the plugin system for xbmc 10, so installing it is painless.

    12. Re:XBMC ? by DesertBlade · · Score: 1

      The issues with rewind/fast forward is due to the container of the video. Many codecs only support going forward and not reverse. XBMC now handles this a little nicer having a 30 second back instead of 4x rewind.

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    13. Re:XBMC ? by jon3k · · Score: 1

      Second XBMC, it's really amazing. I'm running it on fedora and streaming from a fileserver (~10TB) of music, TV and movies. It automatically catalogs everything for you, including pulling in info from IMDB. There are also some really amazing iPad and Android apps (that work over wifi that) you can use to control XBMC! Overall it's incredibly slick and very well polished, and really easy to setup.

    14. Re:XBMC ? by gpuk · · Score: 1

      Another vote for XBMC. I run it on a dedicated Acer Revo and nothing comes close IMHO. It really is fantastic.

    15. Re:XBMC ? by BLKMGK · · Score: 1

      Whoa! When did they start doing that? Can they still use DVDProfiler as an input? If so I may find myself dumping Ember! I used MyMovies ages ago but stopped when I got more serious with Profiler and XBMC. This could be very cool - thanks!

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    16. Re:XBMC ? by BLKMGK · · Score: 1

      The idea wasn't to rewrite anything Myth does but to build an interface that could use all sorts of back-ends. Myth being one of them. I ahven't looked into that recently but if they have made progress I'm ALL ears! Especially if they can use an HDHomerun tuner! :-)

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    17. Re:XBMC ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XBMC FTW

      One server with XBMC feeding info into a MySQL DB, 3 Mac's, One WIndows PC, 2 Apple TV2's, and an iPad. On 802.x there's a bit of lag querying the DB as well as some lag decoding odd AVI containers but rock solid reliable across all my kit. I'm going to end up transcoding my larger files to x264/AVC since the ATV's have hardware x264/AVC decoding but there's no hurry to do that as I can live with some lag. My iPhone works as a remote across all the XBMC clients.

      I can't help with the games, comix or books but XBMC will handle all my Music and Video until something better comes along.

  16. boxee by virtualXTC · · Score: 1

    Provided your media isn't too obscure I've noticed Boxee is actually able to associate a file name and minimal metadata with content on IMDB and you can use it's search function to look up local media.

    1. Re:boxee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. It does lack the occasional bit of expected functionality (such as music playlists!) but it indexes all your material, looks up on tvdb/imdb, presents it in the relevant categories and is searchable. It's not 100% there but it's a very good 95%. I thoroughly recommend Boxee to anyone who wants to try a media PC, it's free so just give it a try.

  17. Yes, use Netflix and YouTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let the cloud do all that for you. Done.

    1. Re:Yes, use Netflix and YouTube by tophermeyer · · Score: 2

      Honestly, if you don't mind relinquishing some control over the media (and risk that Netflix chooses not to carry some obscure cult classics) using those cloud based "delivery on demand" options makes a lot of sense. They're certainly attractive to non-techie types that have no interest in managing media servers or migrating storage mediums every decade.

    2. Re:Yes, use Netflix and YouTube by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Netflix also lacks some of the features of the original media and has noticeably lower visible quality.

      Netflix streaming is cool for portable devices with meagre storage but I find that I still prefer original media for home use.

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    3. Re:Yes, use Netflix and YouTube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but this is Slashdot, so the followup question to that kind of answer, should be "How do I be the cloud?" (Remember what Jello Biafra said about hating the media?)

    4. Re:Yes, use Netflix and YouTube by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Or if he lives anywhere except the US and Canada (you insensitive clod).

  18. I wrote a custom Database by hodagacz · · Score: 2

    Granted database management is part of my day-job, but it really doesn't take all that long to put together. The tedious part is data entry. Movies and books weren't so bad with a imdb and Amazon scraper script. But data cleanup still takes forever.

    1. Re:I wrote a custom Database by Hatta · · Score: 1

      The tedious part is data entry.

      It should take much less time to tag a media file than it takes to actually play it. If you're actually viewing the media in your archive, then tagging the files won't add much extra time at all. If you're not actually viewing the media in your archive, you don't really need it tagged. Problem solved.

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    2. Re:I wrote a custom Database by hodagacz · · Score: 1

      The tedious part was going through the backlog of stuff I had gotten before I created the database.

  19. XBMC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    XBMC

    Try it and thank me later.

  20. iTunes by aclarke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm likely going to be flamed and modded into purgatory for this, but I use iTunes for most of this-at least, for music and videos. Some PDFs are starting to go in there if I want access to them on the go on my iPhone or iPad.

    I understand that Apple's universe isn't perfect, but for me it all works together pretty nicely. I replaced my high-maintenance, increasingly noisy, power-hungry media PC with a second-generation Apple TV. This works great except that it won't play many video formats. Therefore, I've had to go through the obnoxious step of using VideoDrive to transcode videos into an Apple-approved format. However, it's not the end of the world.

    Otherwise, I guess everyone's different, but personally I want to spend my time doing fun stuff like riding my bicycle or spending time with my family, not categorizing my "vast media collection". I guess I'm just getting old, but iTunes does a good enough job, with less work than any DIY system I've successfully maintained in the past.

    1. Re:iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is what I've done as well.

      We have pretty much sold our soul to Apple just for the convenience of not worrying about pulling stuff when we need it. We create a significant volume of recordings of interviews, meetings and design brainstorming discussions during software development. We upload these to iTunes to keep them organized. We use Home Share from a (reasonably old) Mac Mini so everyone in the office can get them when they need it. Additionally, just bought Apple TV's for two conference rooms so we can use AirPlay to play back presentations to the room we are in.
      One more step though, we use IDentify from Justin Pulsipher to edit tags on the videos and podcasts. This means that if we ever need to rebuild the library (which we've had to do a couple of times), we don't need to tag items again. The tags are embedded in the file and will work irrespective of which file they are in.

    2. Re:iTunes by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      >>>I'm likely going to be flamed

      Ditto. I use DVDs, bought-and-paid for in the store (or amazon.com). The only thing I have to worry about is fire, but most of them are stored in a fireproof safe so they should be okay.

      I find storing stuff in "Caselogic" notebooks to be easier than trying to organize terabytes of files. CDs are stored the same way, while E-books I store in my email (dual-stored in yahoo and google).

      My final method of "storage" is in the trash. If I've already seen something 20 times (like Star Trek) or if it's just plain junk (like one of Glenn Beck's books), I'll probably never watch/read it again, so I get rid of it.

      --
      My AC stalker: " I personally agree with your posts most of the time, but that won't keep me from modding you troll"
    3. Re:iTunes by mveloso · · Score: 2

      Because VLC is a player, not an organizer.

    4. Re:iTunes by Lord_Jeremy · · Score: 1

      I second this. iTunes takes the ID3 tags concept and wraps it around movies, audiobooks, etc. As you can sort and categorize your music with various metadata properties, movies can be organized likewise. I don't do too much movie/tv show viewing in iTunes, as I either use just plain old Quicktime or my iPad. Unfortunately it's pretty much MPEG4 (h.264 optional) or bust. Even with Perian or other codecs installed, no go for alternative formats.

    5. Re:iTunes by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      > I replaced my high-maintenance, increasingly noisy, power-hungry media PC with a second-generation Apple TV.

      This remark was out of date long before the underpowered 2nd generation AppleTV came along.

      For anything that doesn't originate from Apple's own store, iTunes sucks great big donkey balls. It really does nothing for you in terms of saving time or bother or "allowing you to do better things with your time". It's simply not designed or intended for that sort of thing. It really only has one purpose: drive you into buying something from the Apple store.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    6. Re:iTunes by Cimexus · · Score: 2

      Agreed. For all its many flaws, iTunes does media indexing and retrieval by a huge number of fields very well. I have a pretty huge iTunes library and typing anything in the search box at the top right immediately filters the list by what you're typing (no need to pick which fields to look for, it's pretty intelligent about that). Very very fast too, as in 'as quick as I can type, each keypress instantly filters the list with no need to wait for it to 'think''.

      Failing that I don't see why you need any particular software solution for your problem. Most modern OSes have a pretty damn good indexed file system search thingy. The Windows XP one sucked donkey balls and was a huge resource hog, so I always turned indexing off. But the Win 7 one is nice ... you can restrict it to indexing particular folders and I don't see much of a performance hit. And I can find any index file/program/whatever instantly by hitting Win Key followed by the first few letters of what I'm after. It's very fast and I almost never browse through folders anymore (or the Start Menu for that matter).

    7. Re:iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iTunes is the worst, most ineffective, bloated software available. If you have it installed, remove it immediately.

    8. Re:iTunes by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Informative

      You realize that most "fireproof" safes are designed so paper will not burn - at 451 degrees Fahrenheit. If you read the fine print, the temperatures in those safes can hit well over 250 degrees, which I am sure your DVDs would not survive. Unless you bought a Fireproof safe specifically designed to protect DVDs, keeping them in there is probably a colossal waste of space and only provides a "feel good" solution that will not actually protect them from damage. I know becasue a friend of mine had a fireproof safe with computer backup DVDs in it that all melted into one big lump when he had a fire.

      P.S. I can save you the time/money by letting you know all of Glenn Beck's books are absolute crap. No need to buy them in the first place - unless you like to be frightened by really dumb stuff.

      --
      "But this one goes to 11!"
    9. Re:iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      personally I want to spend my time doing fun stuff like riding my bicycle or spending time with my family, not categorizing my "vast media collection".

      As long as their application lets you export the categorization work you've done, it makes sense. If your data is hostage, though, then when the next thing comes along, this is going to make you spend more time categorizing your collection, not less. I haven't used Apple's stuff, but data-hostage-taking is often a big reason to not use proprietary or "cloud" software, and Apple's stuff certainly has a reputation for not being interoperable with anything else. Undeserved?

    10. Re:iTunes by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      >>P.S. I can save you the time/money by letting you know all of Glenn Beck's books are absolute crap. No need to buy them in the first place - unless you like to be frightened by really dumb stuff.

      I agree. Except for An Inconvenient Book.

      He actually makes a lot of good points in that book that need to enter the national discourse.

    11. Re:iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason Beck says ANYTHING is to turn a tidy profit for himself. Any point he made that may be considered "not blatantly stupid" is merely coincidence because he thinks saying it will make him some more money.

    12. Re:iTunes by Risen888 · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to flame you, but I have seen mixed results at best when clients of mine have been using iTunes (I've never used it myself). It seems to be about as good as the metadata it's working with, which is not unreasonable to expect, but is the inherent flaw in any database-y kind of media organizer. What seems to separate iTunes from the pack is its unique ability to actually make manual searching for files harder if you let it. (I am aware that this behavior can be turned off.)

      As for myself, I've pretty much succumbed to the inevitable and gone with good old-fashioned directories and filenames for most things, aware of all the limitations of that approach that the summary laid out. My music is well tagged and sensibly named (by me and Easytag) and played either on my mp3 player or through Amarok. Photos I try to tag myself with Digikam, but I mostly just don't have the patience for it so they're a mess, if I get them in sensibly named folders I usually call it a win. Everything else just goes in folders like Music Videos, Movies, etc, and I just live with it. It's really quite rare (rare like never) that I do anything that requires any searching more complex than "what's the name of that movie" anyway, except, as previously noted, with my music.

      Anyway, just to reiterate, I'm not flaming iTunes, I'm just talking about the (seemingly) inherent crappiness of database solutions for media. Either you have to tag stuff yourself and do it consistently (something I'm willing to do for my music but that's it), or you just live with it, in which case why not just use directories?

      --
      Hey, I finally got my first freak! Took you long enough!
    13. Re:iTunes by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      Because he has a controlling interest in coal gassification companies?

      My family has been working toward that goal for years, but Beck's book had the first mainstream recognition of it.

    14. Re:iTunes by tepples · · Score: 1

      I replaced my high-maintenance, increasingly noisy, power-hungry media PC with a second-generation Apple TV. This works great except that it won't play many video formats.

      Nor will it play video games.

    15. Re:iTunes by aclarke · · Score: 1

      You're right, but in about 3 years of running that PC I never played a video game. No big loss. It also won't let me surf the net but I have lots of other ways to do that.

    16. Re:iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also use iTunes, and believe it or not, iPhoto.

      I have been using iPhoto in our building business where we design renovations and extensions for clients. Having photos sorted into each clients portfolio really quickly is great, and I can move those photos around quite easily too. I've always noticed an anti-apple sentiment on slashdot (I too used to hate apple) so I didn't want to admit that I used that iLife suite for my business but its turned out to run really smoothly and simply. Obviously it's not going to have every single little feature and support every format, but it fits what I need, and thats what software is meant to do right? Fit the needs of individuals?

      Anyways, my 2 cents.

  21. Scott Ridley by NeepyNoo · · Score: 2

    Ridley Scott

    1. Re:Scott Ridley by tgd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, now we know why he couldn't find them ...

    2. Re:Scott Ridley by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised this comment is so far down the page...

  22. XBMC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever given it a try? Might be worth an attempt with 10% of your music/video data. There is a vast array of plugins available (no clue about one for comic books) and sometimes developers willing to create one just for the fun of it.

  23. MyMovies and XBMC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I keep a database of my movie collection using a program called myMovies. http://www.mymovies.dk/ you get most of the important features in the free version. It interfaces well with Windows Media Center. It can also generate .nfo files that can be read by XBMC. I use XBMC for playback of nearly all my media on the big screen / stereo. I can search for media by almost any criteria I can think of and the User Interface is great for browsing with cover art, fan art banners an synopsis of movies and tv shows.

    1. Re:MyMovies and XBMC by initdeep · · Score: 2

      this.

      and since the information database MyMovies pulls from is community maintained and vetted, it is far superior to the metadata that you will get from even good metadata sources like IMDB.

      You can use MYMovies for frontend interface on Windows Media Center or you can utilize one of a number of other front ends and only use the MyMovies Collection Management DB backend.

      The nice thing about this product is that it does store actor/director/crew information, so you can easily pull up any director and see all of the movies in your collection and with a simple click then pull up any of those movies for immediate playback.
      I have 20TB+ of movies/tv shows in my collection (yes i own them, i buy dvd's instead of paying for cable/satellite service) and utilize the MM front end and backend and everything is fast to utilize.
      Another nice thing about MM is that it is completely free to use for home use and allows for all of the "nifty" special features people like, including screen customization, movie art, etc.

      their newest version (still in beta till the end of the month) also now includes specific features for handling tv shows ripped to individual episodes if you are one the "acquires" these.

  24. More details required? by frying_fish · · Score: 2

    Well, I guess the key starting point is what operating system are you running on? But for my rather extensive movie and tv collection, on windows I've found Mediaportal: http://www.team-mediaportal.com to be fantastic with its range of plugins to cope very well with TV and movies. Specifically the MP-TVSeries plugin for TV, which interfaces with the TVDB and gets all the information you suggest you want about your shows, including actor information, fanart, banners, posters, thumbnails, and the list continues. You can also sync all these details with an online tracking website such as the relatively new trakt.tv so you and your buddies can see what you recently watched (all done automatically once you have an account at the website and configure the plugin). There is an equivalent for movies called movingpictures which does pretty much the same thing, and you can set up your own categories for sorting too. Mediaportal is a spin-off from XBMC, but is also opensource, and free, but only runs on windows (and makes a very good HTPC software on the whole). So if you're not running windows, maybe try XBMC instead. That is just my personal experience, your mileage may vary.

    1. Re:More details required? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      No. The only thing that will work for the given requirements is a proper system level metadata system.

      This is the only thing that has any hope of dealing with highly disparate types of data including things collected organically by the end user over many years.

      Although a proper library management system might have some hope of coping since it seems like the most likely ready made app that's built to deal with this sort of thing.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  25. created a website with tagging by Zine · · Score: 2

    With so many files, I don't treat my system as a filesystem, and more like a Google-type search. I imported all my media into Drupal as page nodes and hotlinked to the backend files. Where possible, I had has much metadata as possible included about each file. Time/date, subject, type of media, keywords, where, descriptions if they were entered, and searchable text. Navigating is then done by media type, searching, and browsing through various keywords. Drupal then presents the media in the browser. If you wanted to get fancy you can reuse the metadata to present lists using the views module. For direct access via the application (like the audio player), that is when I go to the backend, but generally at that point I know what I want after going through the website.

  26. lol sif by someonestolecc · · Score: 1

    you mean once you have downloaded it you need to sort it? .. I thought winning was having it?

  27. XBMC for movies and TV shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For movies and TV shows I suggest using XBMC media center (or similar media center software). It downloads additional information (director, actors, posters, synopses..) from the net and puts everything into a database. You can then browse movies by director, by actor, genre.. the kind of limitation that you mentioned.

  28. Moovida by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 1

    While I have not had the opportunity to try the program beyond some minor playing around, you could try Moovida It's marketed as a media player which does it all and runs on both Windows and Linux. I believe it's in the Ubuntu repos as well.

    If you do try it, drop me a line about how it performs. I'm thinking about finally putting in a media computer this year.

    --
    I call it 'The Aristocrats'
  29. Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.videodb.net/blog/

    Is awesome for movies, and it would be great to get some people re-involved as the project has stagnated.

  30. Videodb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've used videodb with good success. Takes the filename as the name of the tv program/movie, and there's an interface into IMDB and other media related search engines what allows you pull data into your videodb database.

    http://www.videodb.net/blog/

    It doesn't really cope with music, but from what you've said you can find all that without too much difficulty.

  31. WM7 + MediaBrowser + MetaBrowser by nearlyhugh · · Score: 1

    MetaBrowser grabs meta data for tv-shows and movies (cover art, banners, backgrounds, IMDB info, descriptions, actor images...) and MediaBrowser is a great add-on to Windows Media Center that replaces the (rubbish) built in movie library browser. Both are free and work really well for me - they allow browsing by genre, starring actor, rating and more.

    1. Re:WM7 + MediaBrowser + MetaBrowser by essjaytee · · Score: 0

      +1 for MediaBrowser, if you're on a Windows Media Center machine. A combination of MediaBrowser and automated TV downloads via your BT client of choice is a terrific cable TV replacement. It handles TV and Movies equally well. As the parent mentioned, it's great to look at the actors on a movie, click on their photo and bring up a list of other movies in which they appeared.

      I'm a fan of Media Center Master for cleaning up the metadata, particularly for name duplicates and hard to find stuff like kids specials. It's easy to create/attach cover art for really obscure stuff, or your own home movies.

      I love showing off my HTPC solution, it provides a great look and feel, it's got enough nerd-intrigue to get me interested, and it has a tremendous WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) so it actually gets used. One thing most people don't consider is separating media for me and the wife (True Blood, Spartacus, etc) from the kids (Dora, Thomas, etc) without duplicating hardware. MediaBrowser handles it with ratings, I specify a maximum rating for media which the kids can watch, anything beyond that requires a PIN for it to even show up in the list.

      -S

  32. Re:Oh really? by Fibe-Piper · · Score: 2

    Here in Canada, Libraries are being asked to repurchase eBooks they have bought and distributed after about 30 people have "checked it out". Its all a bit of a farce, all things considered.

    --
    I went to battle M.C. Escher, but drew a blank.
  33. "Scott Ridley"? by __roo · · Score: 2

    You meant Ridley Scott and not Scott Ridley, right?

    1. Re:"Scott Ridley"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You meant Ridley Scott and not Scott Ridley, right?

      Yep, was thinking the same thing. Unless Scott Ridley is an up-and coming amateur director? :)

  34. Filesystem overlays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There should be a Fuse [user-space filesystem] plugin or two that can help you with organizing, although I don't know how well they work.
    In theory when you mount a media folder you should see something like:

    $ ls
    by_author/
    by_name/
    by_genre/
    etc..

    It's a while I want to try them out but I never got the time.
    This is one http://code.google.com/p/media-fs/ can't find the other at the moment.
     

  35. CMS software application here by siriusdogstar · · Score: 1

    google CMS

  36. Windows Land by Inda · · Score: 1

    Access DB. 30 minutes to write. No need to check.

    Then you'll be needing to enter all your meta-data. After 20 minutes you'll be bored. The local chav might do it for a few quid, but with a rate of 96-98% perfect record entry, could you handle that many errors?

    I'm not handing in my geek card. I earned it. It's mine.

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  37. Re:Oh really? by jedidiah · · Score: 2

    > One has to wonder where he GOT those terabytes of digital content... ...looks at shelf full of leather bound CD/DVD binders. "Sci-Fi" spans 4 binders. "Comedy" spans 3 binders.

    --
    A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  38. Symlinks and filenames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty much everything asked for in the original post can be covered with links and filenames. Where is Good Omens? Put it in one author's folder with a link in the other author's folder.

    mv good_omens-terry_prachett_neil_gaiman.ext ~/Books/Terry_Prachett/
    ln ~/Books/Terry_Prachett/good_omens-terry_prachett_neil_gaiman.ext ~/Books/Neil_Gaiman

    That was pretty easy. Also, since both authors are in the title, the "locate" command will find it with just the book title or either author. You want to keep track of all of Scott's films? Make a directory for him and put links in there to all of his films.

    Whatever you do, you're going to end up entering extra data (author, actor, director, item name). You could either work out a tagging system and enter the data that way, or use the existing file system and a few links to produce the same effect. The latter will cut down on your search time because

    ls ~/Film/Director/Scott_Ridley

    has a darn short run time.

  39. Calibre and ComicRack by Xadnem · · Score: 2

    For books - Calibre, let it convert things to epub format and let it deal with the directory structure. For comics, "ComicRack" is the absolute best. It allows cover view, can convert cbr/cbz/pdfs (though it prefers cbz for metadata), and allows the importation/scraping of metadata and saving it directly to the file.

  40. SCOTT RIDLEY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has a better H1-N visa than this ask-slashdot idiot.

  41. I've been happy with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.collectorz.com/ for my book needs.

  42. MediaTomb by gregthebunny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I use MediaTomb for my digital media library. It manages all my music, videos, and photos and is quite extensible through scripting if you are familiar with JavaScript. Then I use XBMC or my PS3 as the front-end to MediaTomb. I'm currently managing over 1 TB of data without issue. I cannot speak for other media, such as books, as all my books are still in dead tree format.

    1. Re:MediaTomb by Nithin+Philips · · Score: 2

      +1 for MediaTomb. I built it on Ubuntu and couldn't get the javascript stuff to work, so I wrote a shell script to enumerate my media and create organized folders with symlinks. cron runs the script at an interval and now I can have media group by the date they were added and such. Ideally either with the javascript or a shell script, one should be able to create multiple organizational schemes, based on filesname (or metadata--given cli tools exist to read them.) It may not be the sexiest way to organize things, but these days even the kitchen sink has DLNA support and being able to use your media anywhere is really nice.

      PS: If you use Adobe Acrobat (the horror!) to read pdfs, in Preferences, in the Documents category, you can set it to 'Restore last view settings when reopening documents' which will 'bookmark' the books you're reading, very useful when reading long eBooks.

      --
      Einmal ist Keinmal. What happens but once might as well not have happened at all.
  43. Gotta agree with purging it all by acidfast7 · · Score: 1

    How often do you re-watch / re-read anything?

    I guess I can understand the "I'm so smart" aspect of having bookshelves full of books in one's flat.

    I can understand having large collections of music as well ... especially when entertaining

    But I've never understood why people collect movies? What does that really say about someone? You can't really entertain with them in the background like one can with music. I mean they can't even be used as a reference resource like a book can. I usually just think of it as a huge waste of money or it's for people that just have to collect stuff.

    1. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You will apparently be shocked to discover this, but some people actually re-read books! And re-watch movies!
      There are a handful of movies I've seen over a dozen times (Not including the family ones my son demands we watch on occasion). Some of them I still haven't got all of the juice out of (The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover), and some of them I just enjoy watching over and over (The Princess Bride, Amelie). I reread Fool On The Hill and Lord Of The Rings about every second year. Our library is tucked away in the basement out of the way, and isn't going to impress anyone. We have as many books as we do because we enjoy them, read them, and share them with friends.

      Purging is great, but don't apply your opinions to the rest of us. Some of us have different points of view.

      --

      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    2. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by toxonix · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I found that around the age of 25, I began re-reading certain books and re-watching movies to find that I interpreted them differently the second time. Years later I'm still re-watching movies that I forgot I watched. Thanks to Netflix of course.

    3. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it's the idea of seeing what you paid tens of thousands of dollars for going into the trash, but I just don't think that throwing it all away everything as a viable option... Maybe I am just a little too stingy, or maybe I just don't have the kind of disposable incomes you do.

      Personally, I do a very simplistic sorting with metadata tagging.

      Movies go in a /volumes/media/Movies folder with files named 'Name [year] [imdb code].ext'

      TV Shows go in a /volumes/media/TV folder with a show name folder hierarchy with files named as 'Name - s##e## - episode name.ext'

      Music goes in a /volumes/media/Music folder and is sorted ala iTunes.

      Audio Books go in /volumes/media/Audiobooks and are sorted by Author/Name.ePub.

      Etc.

      Using this method, I am easily able to search for data using the metatags to find what I want, including such things as 'Ridley Scott' when I am ever so inclined.

      Then, I can also point Boxee, XBMC and Plex at NFS mounts and get at the same data with the same searching ability and use their own respective interfaces and library views built from metadata, series info and IMDB tags. added bonus, the number of false positive detections went to zero since I started adding the IMDB ID to the filenames.

    4. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by Carpathius · · Score: 1

      You never watch a film a second time?

      Some people like film quite a bit, and may watch a film several times. There are films out there that were released on video, then pulled, and are often impossible to see today. There are films where a particular version was released in one format, (laserdisk, for example), but that version is no longer available in any format.

      But you know what? I simply enjoy film and watching film. If I want to go back and watch "The Road Warrior", I can, because I purchased it a good many years ago. If I want to see the version of 1776 where the congressional congress spills out into the streets still sings, I can, because I bought it back when it was available. I picked up "The Fall", knowing almost nothing about it, but having heard good reviews. It cost me just a bit more than two tickets to a movie would have cost, and I can show it to friends who will enjoy it but won't have seen it.

      Just because you don't enjoy something doesn't make it a waste of money to the person involved.

      And a quick comment about having bookshelves full of books. I have no idea how many books I own. I've got a twenty foot wall of bookshelves, floor to ceiling, full of books down stairs. I've got at least three bookshelves full of books spread over two bedrooms. I don't do it to show people I'm smart. In fact, the largest collection is in the basement, and it's rare for me to ask people down there, and the other books are, as I said, in two bedrooms, and visitors aren't often in those either. I have those books because I read. I read a lot. While the non-fiction doesn't get much use anymore -- except for the ones sitting on my desk -- the fiction gets looked at and read.

      You can complain about my 1000 LPs and my 400 CDs too, if you like.

      Sean.

    5. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read books again. I watch movies again. I bet I am not in the minority here.
      It says nothing about me, I do it for me, not for you or my friends.
      It is not an "I'm so smart" thing either.
      I do it because "I enjoy it"
      .
      Background music is nice, background movies are nice too.
      Depends on what I am doing. When I am rebuilding a computer or working
      on some hardware, I like letting a movie run while I am working. I hear
      the dialog and the movie plays out in my mind as I work. Don't need to see
      it to enjoy it.

      Purging is not a suggestion, it is a cop-out and a criticism of something
      that someone else happens to enjoy, namely their media collection..

      How about some constructive solutions.
      The poster wants to know how to manage large collections of media.

    6. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some stuff gets "expired" from Netflix. The same goes for Hulu.

      When you decide you want to watch something again, it might not be readily available.

      This is usually the reason for having your own media collection. This seems pretty obvious for Music but it seems like a real revelation for anything else.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    7. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by hedwards · · Score: 1

      It's about backing the information up. At this point. I rarely if ever actually watch most of my movies, for the simple reason that I tend to just let the TV do the deciding for me. Plus, I've got Netflix which provides a pretty substantial amount of movies and TV shows that I might want to watch whenever I like. But, having it on your computer is more convenient at times, and if you're going to have copies for backup, you might as well have the ability to keep track of them.

      Plus, sometimes you just get a hankering for a movie like the Matrix, or a particular scene out of the movie, and having the disc on your HDD makes that a lot more convenient.

    8. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I've never understood why people collect movies?...

      It depends on how leaky your brain is. It's quite easy (for some people) to forget most of what happens in a movie within a few months or years. Hence, you can watch it again and be pleasantly surprised by all the cool stuff you forgot about.

    9. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      My frequent re-watch list, roughly in order of frequency:
      Kill Bill Vol 1 & 2
      Kung Fu Hustle
      Firefly
      The Princess Bride
      Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
      LOTR 1, 2 & 3
      Fantasia
      Hook
      Usually a week doesn't go by without me watching one out of that list, sometimes as many as three or four of them. Haven't watched Hook or Fantasia for a long time and my VCR chews tapes nowadays, but they used to be top of the list.

    10. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by zmollusc · · Score: 1

      I watch films many dozens of times, but not Amelie. God damn that film sucked. Shot after shot of the bridge of her nose. Is it a nose-bridge fetish film or something?
      What was the topic again? Oh, yes. Some people like to watch a beloved film yet again rather than risk £5 on Transformers 7 or Eight Fast Eight Furious.

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      They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
    11. Re:Gotta agree with purging it all by demonbug · · Score: 1

      Some stuff gets "expired" from Netflix. The same goes for Hulu.

      When you decide you want to watch something again, it might not be readily available.

      This is usually the reason for having your own media collection. This seems pretty obvious for Music but it seems like a real revelation for anything else.

      I've found Netflix to be extremely unreliable in terms of what is available for streaming. A recent example is the show The IT Crowd. I watched the first three seasons about the time the fourth was on TV, then had to wait for the fourth season to be on Netflix. It finally arrived, and I happened to be watching an episode when a friend stopped by; he got hooked, and started watching at his house. Unfortunately, it seems that at the same time they added the fourth season, they removed the second season. Really weird.

      (And don't get me started on them only seeming to offer dubbed versions of most foreign films... grrrr! Almost enough to get me to drop the service entirely!)

  44. Filthy pirate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Theres no way you own all that media. And even if you do own it. You have no license rights to transfer it anywhere.

    Obviously your only solution is to delete all of it and turn yourself into the media police.

    We have your confession already. We'll be waiting for you.

    Don't make us come get you.

  45. Comic Reader / Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ComicRack is a nice, free, actively developed comic reader / manager for Windows.

    I actually use my iPad most of the time when I want to read them, but it's great for managing your collection, and can pull and auto-fill meta information from comicvine. For reading on the PC it's still nice and pretty quick (I think it uses some hardware acceleration).

  46. Subsonic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes absolutely! I use http://www.subsonic.org on a daily basis to manage and enjoy my fine collection of 1.5TB carefully archived music files.

    It's a java based webservice, and it supports https and streams to mobile devices
    GPLv3
    Oh, and it also streams video.*

    So far I have no solution to my MASSIVE ebook collection, and searching for one.

    * = I am not affiliated with Subsonic, only a huge fan.

  47. Electronic Hoarder by sunking2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You likely need help. 99% of your stuff could disappear overnight and you'd never miss it.

    1. Re:Electronic Hoarder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You likely need help. 99% of your stuff could disappear overnight and you'd never miss it.

      I've dealt with people like this. They have a very simple three-instruction mind when it comes to data and media:

      1. If you have any free space available, it MUST be filled. Else you are clearly wasting it.
      2. If you do not have any free space available, you MUST obtain more. Else you can't get more stuff.
      3. If you have the most media, you have the highest score, and thus you win.

      1 and 2 make up the main processing loop, 3 is the watchdog that reboots them back to the 1-2 loop if they ever hear an argument like yours. Note that "enjoy media" isn't anywhere in there. And you're not going to change them at all.

    2. Re:Electronic Hoarder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if like me, you have a very small child you don't have the option to go out much. In which case you are already asocial so you might as well watch TV. At least until your small child is big enough to look after itself

    3. Re:Electronic Hoarder by Arlet · · Score: 1

      And another hoarder modded it 'troll'...

    4. Re:Electronic Hoarder by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Translation: We have highlighted the limitations of your "magical" platform, therefore the user must be attacked.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    5. Re:Electronic Hoarder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you grow up you many have a family. Google it if you don't see how digital media can grow very fast, beyond one sad shit sitting in their bedroom burning DVDR.

    6. Re:Electronic Hoarder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He probably does need help, but not the way you think. I have scads of stuff on my computer and the biggest impediment to pruning the stuff I won't need again is time. It's just easier to support 2 TB of stuff than spend time pawing through it all deciding what to keep and what to toss.

      Kinda like my garage, but that's another story...

    7. Re:Electronic Hoarder by hendrikboom · · Score: 1

      And isolating the 1% is a *lot* of work. I'm facing that problem with physical books, because it looks as if in the next few years I'm going to have to move into a smaller place. Which of my 9000 books are going to make the grade?

      I've resolved not to buy any more paper books. Except for books that don't work well in electronic form, such as math books (where you have to page back and forth a lot, and ereaders just aren't as nimble as flipping through pages) and art books (spatial and colour space resolution problems).

      If I had been able to collect my 9000 books in e-form, they would be easy to move. All 9000 books would fit on one hard drive, with maybe an extra one or two for on- and off-site backup.

      Automatically indexing them from existing metatdata would be a lot easier than going through the shelves and picking out the few hundred I' really going to want to keep. Data storage is so much cheaper than paper storage these days.

      But, unfortunately, I don't really have that option.

      Anyone have an easy way to convert an existing paper library to a useful elibrary?

    8. Re:Electronic Hoarder by Farmer+Pete · · Score: 1

      That's easy. You'll just need a big paper cutter and a high volume scanner.

    9. Re:Electronic Hoarder by suutar · · Score: 1

      Once you have the ebook versions (how you get them is up to you) if they don't already have the metainfo you want, Calibre can look up metainfo given an ISBN number. For older stuff that may not have one (or not one that Calibre recognizes) I find trolling Amazon to find a different edition and using that ISBN works well. But there will always be issues of "These 5 are tagged 'Edward Elmer Smith, PhD.' but these are tagged 'E. E. "Doc" Smith'. Gotta go change half of them." At least it can do bulk setting for things like that...

    10. Re:Electronic Hoarder by hendrikboom · · Score: 1

      You may be right, though it goes against the grain to destroy books.

      -- hendrik

    11. Re:Electronic Hoarder by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      What you do miss though is the accessibility. My time is precious, so I want to be able to watch or read what I want without having to worry about how or where to get it. Large media collections help with that. I could never hope to consume all the media that I have. With the huge capacities and cheap prices of hard drives there's practically no downside.

    12. Re:Electronic Hoarder by plover · · Score: 1

      Anyone have an easy way to convert an existing paper library to a useful elibrary?

      http://www.diybookscanner.org/

      I haven't built one yet, but I want to. The open source software offerings in this space just keep getting better all the time; toolchains to invoke gocr, etc., and now someone's even running a service to OCR the pages for you, as long as it's OK for them keep a copy in the Internet Archive.

      The claims are that you can scan a novel in 20 minutes or less. It might take you quite a few nights and weekends to get through 9000 books at that pace, but if you never start you'll never finish.

      --
      John
    13. Re:Electronic Hoarder by hendrikboom · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. 20 minutes per book, that's about 24 books per 8-hour workday ... about 360 days for the complete set. When did I ever find time to read all that in my 64 years? (well, of course I didn't read all the nonfiction, the encyclopedias and such) Sounds like a culling job is still in order. But perhaps a less severe one.

      -- hendrik

  48. Mod Parent Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Personally, I re-read/re-watch/re-listen all the media while transferring them from medium to medium. If I didn't re-watch/re-listen to it, I don't transfer it.

  49. My Movies 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try "My Movies 3" I have 5 TB of movies and it handles them no problem. It does not do other media, but it is great for movies.

  50. For photos... by swordgeek · · Score: 2

    I've got Photoshop Elements. The editing is certainly overkill for what you're talking about, but the library features are quite good. The key is that there's a separate database of tags and metadata which can be sorted and searched like...a database.

    I'm sure there are similar things out there, but I think the key is to try a handful to see how they do it, and narrow down your choices accordingly.

    --

    "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
  51. Semantic (Tagged) Filesystems by TheTyrannyOfForcedRe · · Score: 2

    Take a look at tagged filesystems. You can do the same thing by hand using symlinks but with much greater pain.

    http://www.tagsistant.net/

    http://nascent.freeshell.org/programming/TagFS/

    http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemFS

    The following are not really filesystems. You need to use specific programs to search the tag space.

    http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~marriaga/software/oyepa/

    http://blueslugs.com/2005/07/12/tag1-delicious-style-file-tagging/

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    1. Re:Semantic (Tagged) Filesystems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another one to add to the list is HTaggingOLFS (Hierarchical Tagging Overlay File System). HTaggingOLFS adds tagging to an existing hierarchical directory structure and provides "AND" searches of tags.

      HIERARCHICAL - most of the tagging file systems (including those noted in parent) were flat - all the files were stored in a single directory. HTaggingOLFS adds tagging capability to an existing file hierarchy.

      TAGGING - fairly self explanatory - files can be "semantically tagged" with arbitrary words or phrases and then the entire file system can be searched by those tags.

      OVERLAY - HTaggingOLFS does not implement a file store - It is a "loopback" file system that passes actual file operations to an existing hierarchical file system. HTaggingOLFS simply adds tagging and searching capabilities.

      HTaggingOLFS implemented using FUSE, Perl and SQLITE. It's more of a "proof of concept" as the implementor (me) isn't a professional or even really a casual developer -- but is more of an old-school "hacker" cobbling together bits and pieces from here and there to achieve his ends. It ain't pretty, it is kind of elegant, it "generally works". Standard disclaimers apply. I wouldn't use it for commercial production, but for the purposes of the original poster (which is essentially what I use it for), it should work fairly well.

      For example, if /mnt/hugeMediaRepository was the mount point of the Overlay File System, Blade Runner could be stored as follows: /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/scifi/BladeRunner:ScottRidley:HarrisonFord:RutgerHauer:SeanYoung:1982:RatedR.m4v

      at each upper level of the directory hierarchy, hugeMediaRepository/Movies/scifi/ you would see additional "virtual" subdirectories @ScottRidley @HarrisonFord @RutgerHauer @SeanYoung @1982 @RatedR - based on the tags created when the file was saved. Descending into one of these directories searches for files containing those tags and presents the (1) files in the current real directory associated the tags in the file path, (2) subdirectories that contain files associated the tags in the file path, and (3) "virtual" subdirectories based on tags associated with the tags in the file path.

      For example,

      If these two files existed: /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/scifi/BladeRunner:ScottRidley:HarrisonFord:RutgerHauer:SeanYoung:1982:RatedR.m4v /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/drama/AmericanGangster:DenzelWashington:RussellCrowe:ChiwetelEjiofor:RatedR.m4v

      listing the directory /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/@ScottRidley/ would show:

      @HarrisonFord/
      @RutgerHauer/
      @SeanYoung/
      @1982/
      @RatedR/
      @DenzelWashington/
      @RussellCrowe/
      @ChiwetelEjiofor/
      scifi/
      drama/

      More info can be found at: http://code.google.com/p/htaggingolfs/

    2. Re:Semantic (Tagged) Filesystems by dm42 · · Score: 1

      (sorry to repost... forgot to log in...)

      Another one to add to the list is HTaggingOLFS (Hierarchical Tagging Overlay File System). HTaggingOLFS adds tagging to an existing hierarchical directory structure and provides "AND" searches of tags.

      HIERARCHICAL - most of the tagging file systems (including those noted in parent) were flat - all the files were stored in a single directory. HTaggingOLFS adds tagging capability to an existing file hierarchy.

      TAGGING - fairly self explanatory - files can be "semantically tagged" with arbitrary words or phrases and then the entire file system can be searched by those tags.

      OVERLAY - HTaggingOLFS does not implement a file store - It is a "loopback" file system that passes actual file operations to an existing hierarchical file system. HTaggingOLFS simply adds tagging and searching capabilities.

      HTaggingOLFS implemented using FUSE, Perl and SQLITE. It's more of a "proof of concept" as the implementor (me) isn't a professional or even really a casual developer -- but is more of an old-school "hacker" cobbling together bits and pieces from here and there to achieve his ends. It ain't pretty, it is kind of elegant, it "generally works". Standard disclaimers apply. I wouldn't use it for commercial production, but for the purposes of the original poster (which is essentially what I use it for), it should work fairly well.

      For example, if /mnt/hugeMediaRepository was the mount point of the Overlay File System, Blade Runner could be stored as follows: /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/scifi/BladeRunner:ScottRidley:HarrisonFord:RutgerHauer:SeanYoung:1982:RatedR.m4v

      at each upper level of the directory hierarchy, hugeMediaRepository/Movies/scifi/ you would see additional "virtual" subdirectories @ScottRidley @HarrisonFord @RutgerHauer @SeanYoung @1982 @RatedR - based on the tags created when the file was saved. Descending into one of these directories searches for files containing those tags and presents the (1) files in the current real directory associated the tags in the file path, (2) subdirectories that contain files associated the tags in the file path, and (3) "virtual" subdirectories based on tags associated with the tags in the file path.

      For example,

      If these two files existed: /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/scifi/BladeRunner:ScottRidley:HarrisonFord:RutgerHauer:SeanYoung:1982:RatedR.m4v /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/drama/AmericanGangster:DenzelWashington:RussellCrowe:ChiwetelEjiofor:RatedR.m4v

      listing the directory /mnt/hugeMediaRepository/Movies/@ScottRidley/ would show:

      @HarrisonFord/
      @RutgerHauer/
      @SeanYoung/
      @1982/
      @RatedR/
      @DenzelWashington/
      @RussellCrowe/
      @ChiwetelEjiofor/
      scifi/
      drama/

      More info can be found at: http://code.google.com/p/htaggingolfs/

  52. Electronic Hoarder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As pointed above. Ditch the dumb TV series, all they do is make you dependent and asocial.

  53. re: iTunes (another option) by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I certainly won't "flame" you for this suggestion. As maligned as the iTunes software is, I think its ability to index media and very quickly retrieve it by a number of different fields is pretty darn good -- especially for a program you can download free of charge for both Windows and the Mac.

    As a Mac user myself, I started using another free program to manage my movies and saved TV shows though. I really like Plex (www.plexapp.com) for the purpose. It doesn't have the restrictions on playable video formats that iTunes has, and has a great UI to serve as your media center via a remote control.

    I believe the latest update to Plex added some interesting, if slightly obscure, functionality -- like the ability to search the subtitles of your movies for specific strings, too.

  54. Calibre by pvera · · Score: 2

    With Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com/) you can deal with the book problem the same way you would use iTunes to catalog music and video. It is available for Windows, Linux and OSX. I have personally used it for both OSX and Windows for a few years and it has never let me down.

    The video problem is much harder because the tagging is nowhere as mature as what we have available for music. What really drives me nuts about this is that there is no consistent way to apply parental ratings to content in a way that it is recognized by OSX and Windows. This keeps me from sharing my videos across the home network since there is no way I can easily block certain videos from my son's Xbox and his iMac. I would have to manually set play lists, which is a lot more work, it would be nice if I could tag content as PG-13 or above and let the Xbox use its built-in content ratings mechanism.

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    1. Re:Calibre by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What really drives me nuts about this is that there is no consistent way to apply parental ratings to content in a way that it is recognized by OSX and Windows. This keeps me from sharing my videos across the home network since there is no way I can easily block certain videos from my son's Xbox and his iMac.

      Your son isn't going to die if he sees some gore or some tits. If he's too young to see something, he won't be interested in it at all. If he's interested, it's your job to provide context, not censorship. Parental controls are for lazy parents. Parenting is your job not the computer's.

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    2. Re:Calibre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My kingdom for some mod points to give you!

    3. Re:Calibre by Osty · · Score: 1

      With Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com/) you can deal with the book problem the same way you would use iTunes to catalog music and video. It is available for Windows, Linux and OSX. I have personally used it for both OSX and Windows for a few years and it has never let me down.

      I love calibre for ebook management, but I wanted to post a pre-emptive strike. Calibre uses a database for metadata and the filesystem for book storage. However you really need to let calibre "own" the directory tree where it stores its library (or libraries, with recent versions). If you go mucking about trying to rearrange stuff, or if your OCD nature requires books to be organized in a different way than what calibre wants, you're going to break it. For all intents and purposes, the directory structure calibre creates is a database and you need to keep your grubby little hands out of it.

      Also, recent versions of calibre have support for "empty" books, so you can put all of your paper books in your calibre library alongside your ebooks and manage your entire book library from one location.

    4. Re:Calibre by director_mr · · Score: 2

      So the standard now is its OK for kids to see things unless it will kill them? Sounds like someone who doesn't have kids. Parental controls are tools for proactive parents to help enforce the policies they have decided are best for the families they are in. Parenting is indeed the job of a parent, but in today's age (and especially on Slashdot) we use computers to help us do our work. If I feel my kid shouldn't watch a certain type of movie, I will put policies in place to stop it.

      For instance, my 4 year old likes to use computers and watch movies VERY much. But if he sees a scary movie, he has trouble going to bed at night and has nightmares. Why is it lazy parenting setting up a computer so he can start a movie he wants to watch in such a way that movies that will harm him isn't possible? To me that seems more like smart parenting.

    5. Re:Calibre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you didn't raise your kid to be such a pussy, he wouldn't have nightmares. And if he did, he would learn to deal with them like every other non-sheltered kid. It's a nightmare, not the end of the world.

    6. Re:Calibre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Standard OSS answer moves into the parenting realm, huh?

      Question: I would like to do X,
      Answer: You don't really want to do X. (because answerer's favorite software package doesn't do X)

  55. Libra by Lanforod · · Score: 1

    I used to use Libra - seems like it's gone defunct now, but was great for what you are looking for. Anyone know the story on why it's gone now?

  56. Dedicated DB & Web Interface & Thumbnail C by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I developed by own little db: one entry per line, tab separated fields, first name has fieldnames.

    As next I have a web-interface which sorts according fields, the default fields are uploader, title, author, year, time plus custom fields. As next I have a file which describes how the fields are treated, e.g. time (UNIX epoch) is formated as YYYY/MM/DD and sorted so, author is sorted by occurancy etc .. a bit like SQL's sorting on 'select count(*) from ... where ...'

    And then the perl script which does handle that flat-file db . . . and there is a script called 'thumb.pl' which does the magick: creates a thumbnail of the cover of .cbr/.cbz (comics), .pdf (books), .avi (movie poster), .mp3 (cover art of the CD) where the true programming work lies ... parsing the filename (supporting several conventions), and derive author and title, time comes from the date of file.

    Yes, I thought of releasing it, but it's a mess I know .. and too lazy to clean it up and publish it ... (call me a bastard) - maybe a bit later when I get motivated I do it.

    Anyway, in essence, I run my script over my HD and get several dbs for comics, books, and movies, also picture-sets, and via browser I search for the content ... I thought of doing one web-interface for all media .. but right now I have for each media separate interface.

    Hint: First I was very eager to gather all kind of metadata (which I still consider most important), but later realized visually it's more important to have a proper cover - it lets me find things very quickly and memorize what I have already (I'm more visually oriented and memorize what I have already).

  57. Shortcuts anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can find Blade Runner easily, but what if I wanted all of Scott Ridley's films? Where is 'Good Omens', in the Terry Pratchett folder or in Neil Gaiman's?

    You do know what "shortcuts" are, don't you? (or "aliases" on the Mac, "soft links" on Linux)

    Put "Good Omens" in your "Books" folder and create shortcuts in your "Terry Pratchett" and "Neil Gaiman" folders. Problem solved.

    1. Re:Shortcuts anyone? by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I can find Blade Runner easily, but what if I wanted all of Scott Ridley's films?

      I'm starting to understand why he's having so much trouble finding his movies.

  58. Collections Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like you I also have a large amount of media and have been looking for a good collections manager. If you looking for a program based solution one that I have played with and like is GCstar (http://www.gcstar.org/). You can create your on collections or use there predone ones, and the best part is that it runs on most OS's.
    The other solution that I have migrated to is creating a media wiki for each of my different collections. The reason that I have migrated to this option is it is highly configurable and I can import a lot of the data form wikipedia.

  59. No standard for meta-data by AwaxSlashdot · · Score: 2

    ID3 is a de facto standard widely used for music. It is targeted at MP3 file format but many alternative music file formats also support embedding it.
    see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3 for more details.

    Now, for everything outside music, the need/usage/online-store haven't managed to create a standard (even de facto) for meta-tagging files.

    Since all formats might not support metadata, the simplest would be to use the file system meta-data/extended attributes.
    see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems for the list of FS supporting extended attributes.

    As with music, you'll need dedicated applications to edit and browse those tags. Since you already have a folder structure, you could jump start those tags with the information that can be retrieved from the folder names. For movies and books, you might be able to complement those tags from IMDb or Amazon.

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  60. BeFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, yes, it's largely obsolescent by the standards of modern applications and hardware, but your situation is precisely what BeOS was designed to serve. Built-in arbitrarily-extensible metadata attributes, non-heirarchial relational database file structure, built-in indexing and querying functionality: good, forward-thinking stuff.

    Take a look at SkyOS or Haiku for contemporary implementations.

    1. Re:BeFS by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      I hope someone mods you up, because nailed it! The OS _itself_ should support better meta-data support -- live queries and tagging.

      I can't find the main arstechnica review that goes in depth about meta-data but this might help the OP.

      http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/the-beos-filesystem.ars
      http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2007/10/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/7
      http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2008/03/past-present-future-file-systems.ars/7

  61. Re:Oh really? by ledow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I own the David Attenborough Life Collection. It's 24 DVDs. Even assuming they are the single-layer type, that would be:

    112.8 Gb. Roughly.

    Now say I own, say, several boxsets of comedies, series, documentaries, a few dozen movies, maybe even a couple of dozen free promotional DVD's with full-feature films on them that are given out when the film stops selling.

    Now, *NOT* including anything I've recorded from TV / Movie channels for my own consumption, not including any home videos, not including ANY Blu-Rays, etc. I can *EASILY* fill terabytes of data without even blinking an eyelid.

    Hey, I could probably fill a terabyte or two with DVD images of cartoons (proper children's cartoons) and stuff I watched when I was younger (I have the complete set of Dangermouse, Batfink, etc.) and that's hardly something I go out and buy every day and keep buying. A terabyte, or even half a dozen terabytes, is NOTHING. It's just when you have to copy it all into a single place, like this guy is doing, that it appears to be a lot.

    It's just that he's obsessively backing it up and/or converting it to free formats so that he can just browse from a media library, like the ones he desires, so it's all on one hard disk (or more likely RAID). It's not "abnormal". It's nowhere near "evidence of piracy". It's just a media collection stored on disk instead of the original DVD's.

  62. GCstar by Squiff · · Score: 1

    What about GCstar http://www.gcstar.org/ ? It is specifically a collection manager for things like books, comics and movies. I have a collection of 1500 movies indexed with it and it even lets you specify a location, e.g. your hard drives, from which to open the file. It is free and cross platform and I have used it successfully for several years. It would seem to cover all the criteria that you have listed

  63. Media Center PC by ThinkDifferently · · Score: 1

    I have 2 Media Center editions of Windows, XP MCE and Vista MCE. They continue media center support through Win 7 and plan to keep going. But, don't let Windows stop you if you don't like it. Try Myth or Boxee or whatever flavor-of-the-year media solution there is. My media center not only aggregates all of my media together into one interface, it helps me sort it, present it and play it. The music section (which catalogs all of my MP3s from a NAS), let's me sort by title, artist, album, etc. The Recorded TV section lets me sort by date recorded, series name, etc. There's also a section for pictures and videos, which I use less often. It automatically re-catalogs "watched folders" on a regular basis, so if I add another album to my MP3 collection, it will automatically find it in time (or on a reboot if I'm impatient). If you setup a PC just for the purpose of media, it is often referred to generically as a Home Theater PC (HTPC). You can use such a PC with or without TV tuners to record shows. I have one such PC that controls my TV. My entire TV watching experience comes from the PC. I personally use mine with 4 tuners, 2 HDTV to record broadcast TV and 2 analog to record from 2 cable boxes (2 of each helps with time conflicts when you want to record 2 shows at once). Without these PCs, I'd never be able to wade through my collection of music effectively, and it is bar none the best recorded TV solution I have found.

    It really can't help you with books, games and comics, because media center specializes in audio/video solutions.

  64. A Solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called XBMC....it has a library function, and that's searchable....as for comics and ebooks, I second the Calibre suggestion, it's a great app with a terrific author who actually responds to emails and tries to help as best he can. I can't say enough about that program. BTW, I think there is even a plugin for XBMC that uses external comic readers, but I'm not sure how in-depth it is.

    For a more utilitarian look, and a paid app, the JRiver media software may do what you want. I've always found it clunky and overdone, my needs for collections are simpler than yours so, who knows, it may hit the target.

  65. Yes, it's that time again... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Yes but movies can be several things at once, are you going to symlink a movie into 20 different directories?
    /var/media/video/faye.valentine/pornucopia.25.divx /var/media/video/sasha.grey/pornucopia.25.divx /var/media/video/mff/pornucopia.25.divx /var/media/video/natural.tits/pornucopia.25.divx /var/media/video/redheads/pornucopia.25.divx /var/media/video/rope.bondage/pornucopia.25.divx

    That would work but it's a pain in the ass, there must be a better way.

    Don't forget /var/media/video/your.mom/pornucopia.25.divx

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    1. Re:Yes, it's that time again... by Obsi · · Score: 1

      Don't forget /var/www/pornucopia.25.divx

  66. GCstar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been using GCstar on Linux for a few years now. It's a good collections manager. I recently got it running on an older iMac G5, which is well suited (thanks to VLC) to play much of the collection of music and videos. http://www.gcstar.org/

  67. Re:Oh really? by 91degrees · · Score: 0

    Well, chances are he pirated a fair chunk of it.

    If he didn't I'm surprised.

    Let's be honest - I doubt most Slashdot are either in a position to criticise him for it, or of the opinion there's anything particularly wrong with it.

  68. Everything by Xian97 · · Score: 1

    http://www.voidtools.com/ As long as you use a descriptive filename or have your media in hierarchical folder structures you can find any file within seconds on any indexed hard drive. It only works on filenames and folders, not metadata.

  69. My Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Movies is great for managing digital movie media. Will organize and store all of your movie data with all the extra info including the DVD case art work. It even integrates nicely with Windows Media Center and XBMC. And it doens't cost a penny-unless you want to donate.

  70. metadata by Creepy · · Score: 1

    What you are referring to and what the author wants is metadata, and most OS's support such tagging... but the one in use by most people, NTFS, does not. WinFS was supposed to correct that, but MS shot that project in the head, then riddled its corpse with tank shell rounds. NTFS requires 3rd party products like tag2find. If you're on Linux or Mac, you're in luck because your file system most likely supports it.

        As an example, on a mac, I could bring up the properties (I believe that is where it is now - back in my day on a mac tagging was a command line argument, but that was several versions back) and enter Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman as metadata for Good Omens. Now when I use Spotlight, a search for either will bring up Good Omens. The tags go with the data, so if the files are copied they retain the tags.

    1. Re:metadata by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Important question: where did you get a digital version of Good Omens? Is it legit? I've been waiting for it to show up on Amazon or B&N in digital...

    2. Re:metadata by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      If you're using NTFS, you can use a prior submitter's suggestion regarding symlinks. NTFS has both symlinks and junctions (both act like symlinks, but junctions only work for directories).

  71. IMDB plug-ins needed by CityZen · · Score: 1

    If they don't exist already, someone needs to create a set of plug-ins for IMDB. A web-browser plug-in would let you go to IMDB, then add a "Play this" button for every movie/video that comes up in a search (it wouldn't really need to be limited to IMDB, in fact). A media player plug-in would add a IMDB search button that would go to IMDB and retrieve search results for you. You could have an Advanced Search button to be more precise. And of course, in addition to the "Play this" button, you could have "Rent this," "Buy this," "Add this to My NetFlix Queue," and "Find this on YouTube," buttons.

    After all, why would you want to create your own database when someone has already done all the work for you?

    1. Re:IMDB plug-ins needed by Stormthirst · · Score: 1

      I've never understood how IMDB makes any money - so what happens if/when they disappear? I very much doubt they will make their database free and available to all and sundry. So whilst I can, I scrape IMDB for the information.

      Having said that, I would like to see a "Add this to my Netflix Queue" button, or "Play this" button.

    2. Re:IMDB plug-ins needed by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      I would assume they make money via advertising.

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  72. Script: Links + IMDB by lordlod · · Score: 2

    I looked at exactly this problem and came up with my own custom solution.

    I wrote a Perl script that queried IMDB, there are simple CPAN libraries out there. The highest rank search based off the filename was always the correct movie.

    Then I pulled out the director, lead actors, proper title etc. Any details that you actually care about.

    Finally I created the directory structure for each detail and put a hardlink to the file. The original files were all kept in a single flat directory for storage, symlinks would work just as well if you prefer.

    The end product is exactly what you are looking for:
    Media
    -> Directors
    --> Ridley Scott
    ---> Actual movie file 1
    ---> Actual movie file 2
    --> Tim Burton
    ---> Actual movie file 1
    ---> Actual movie file 2
    -> Actors
    --> ...

    No issues with duplicates or anything like that. No requirement for your media player to understand some sort of database. No problems sharing it across a network filesystem.

    All less than a page of Perl. Unfortunately the code is currently inaccessible to me.

    1. Re:Script: Links + IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ridley Scott and Tim Burton co-directed two movies!?

    2. Re:Script: Links + IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All less than a page of Perl.

      Code size is no metric for complexity or difficulty, especially when it comes to Perl...

    3. Re:Script: Links + IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All less than a page of Perl. Unfortunately the code is currently incomprehensible to me.

      FTFY

    4. Re:Script: Links + IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All less than a page of Perl. Unfortunately the code is currently inaccessible to me.

      Is this the slashdot equivalent for "the margin is too small to contain the proof"?

    5. Re:Script: Links + IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ended up doing something similar - put together some per cgi scripts to play music & video, and run apache on my media PC. I created an index file containing the relative path of each of the media files, and use the cgi script uses multiple greps to find multi word matches. Searching across 60,000 files is really fast - takes much less than a second to get results back in a web browser, and I can play stuff from any PC on my network that has a web browser. Of course I have access to the web server restricted to only the local network.

      I still have other functions I want to add, like showing album art and be able to pull in stuff from youtube etc, but so far its working pretty well. Biggest pain was that the various browsers all have different formats that you can use with the audio tag, so for Chrome, the CGI script has to convert anything that is not an ogg vorbis file into that format on the fly. Firefox annoyingly wants mo3 rather than ogg. I really wish the various browsers could get their act together and use the same format for this stuff.

      All this runs pretty well on my crusty old AMD 64 3000+ with only 1GB ram running Ubuntu. All the other media programs I tried either had crappy search capabilities, or were very slow and laggy, or couldnt handle some file formats and kept popping up bloody annoying warnngs, or took hours and hours to create indexes if things are moved around (I create my indexes in about 3 min.) or some combination of all of these.

    6. Re:Script: Links + IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inaccessible, or unintelligible because you wrote it in perl more than ten minutes ago? :)

  73. MediaPortal by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 2

    Probably the best interface and organizer of movies, TV shows, etc., that I have seen. Add in the Moving Pictures an MP-TVSeries plugins and you are all set with an awesome interface.

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    1. Re:MediaPortal by MrKneebone · · Score: 1

      I'd definitely vouch for Media Portal. An excellent open source, free option for organising movies and tv show files - very effective scraping if your file names are meaningful - brining back plot synopsis, cover art, episode caps, cast and crew details, running time, imdb rating. scrape sources are customisable (as is most of the programme) and puts tvdb and imdb to good use. As far as i can tell, it doesn't allow you search by director or actor etc, but it does allow for effective list viewing by year of release or genre etc. There are many plugins available, and maybe one is able to accomodate your needs exactly. failing that, it has a good community, and most plugin creators are open to suggestion when it comes to new and useful features for thier next update. Not so great on the music files though, but my impression of that may be related to the small amount of effort i've put into configuring it.

  74. Hege Media Library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been using Tellico, found at www.tellico-project.org. The software is GLPed, uses SQLite or MySQL database and support "all" of the database types you have listed - Movies, Music, Comic Books, books, Photos, Files, etc, with easy keyword searches of all content. It can import Movie, Video, Comic and Audio CD covers, files and almost anything else into the database, and index them.

    The one caveat is that Tellico only runs on Linux or BSD (UNIX). I am confident there possibly are "Windows" based similar products out there, but then one would need either Microsoft Access or more likely Microsoft SQL Server for data store. That is, IF you want the same level and sophistication of data store and search functionality.

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    1. Re:Hege Media Library by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 2

      MediaPortal is the windows way to do it. GPL'ed and uses MySQL or MS Access (MySQL is preferred).

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  75. JRMC or Boxee by DRMShill · · Score: 1

    Boxee does a lot of work automatically. With J River Media Center you can pretty much organize and tag anything how you want to, it's quite a bit of work though. Good luck.

  76. Linux NAS + Symlinks by bdunogier · · Score: 1

    I ended up in the same situation you did: multiple hard drives, that happened to all be internal ones, not plugged, which I used by means of an IDE/SATA => USB adapter. One day I got bored with it: plugging disks in/out whenever I needed an old file was a pain in the ass, and I decided to create a NAS out of all of these, without changing the storage format.
    I mounted all (8) of 'em in a linux box, and aggregated their contents to the system disk, in a /media/aggregateshares/ folder, linking the individual files/folders using very simple symlinks. I've made management a bit easier using a simple web interface that does it automatically for me, and it has been running for more than 6 month now.
    What makes this solution quite nice is that I can very easily add/remove disks, and that they don't have to match at all in terms of size/organization. The main drawback is data safety, as there is absolutely none. Live on the edge...

    1. Re:Linux NAS + Symlinks by bdunogier · · Score: 1

      Oh, and when it comes to metadata management, I have a Zotac Nettop that runs XBMC, and it manages movies/tv/music metadata in quite a nice way.

      It misses handling for other content types, and of course won't handle non video/music related media, but it at least solves these

    2. Re:Linux NAS + Symlinks by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      throw some blank disks in and rsync backups periodically, this data probably doesn't change often, so monthly or quarterly backups, even if you only do selected important folders would work.

      Do it now, or wish you did it later...

  77. XBMC. by MrNemesis · · Score: 1

    That is all.

    Well, not quite all - I'll sing XBMC's praises for a bit. It's got quite extensive media metadata + storage backend functionality; you basically just define a directory (or a bunch of directories), and tell XBMC "this contains movies" and "get movie metdata from themoviedb.org" and you're away. After a while scanning your files and pulling down the metadata, you have a very swish interface and movies subdivided into title, genre, director and actors. I've got a collection of about 1000 of my DVD rips and the interface is just as fast if you only have 10.

    Same deal for TV shows, it just grabs from a different source, although the caveat here is it must have a recognisable number structure in the filename in order to pull down the metadata. I ended up rolling my own set of regexps in advancedsettings.xml.

    Of course, if you're looking for a purely desktop application I'm not sure - XBMC is pretty much only a "full screen" HTPC app, although you can run it windows. I've also have problems playing back some of my older XviD+Ogg+OGM rips, but other than that it's a great piece of software.

    I used to use MythTV for movie/TV playback, but XBMC has a much nicer interface, not to mention a faster one - not only did Myth not have automated metadata lookup, but the movie browser didn't scale, and got slower and slower as my collection expanded. I also find the player much more fully featured. And, of course, XBMC runs everywhere very easily, giving it much higher WAF for people who want to use it on their laptops (windows) as well as on the TV (linux HTPC).

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  78. For most of my collection I use... by kevinmenzel · · Score: 1

    For music, audio books, podcasts, and most videos, I use MediaMonkey 4 (still in beta testing). It crashes quite a bit right now, but it has some great tagging abilities, which leads to great searching abilities. It also has a pretty powerful ability to organize files, which makes it easier to find stuff when you aren't in the software. It doesn't work great for full DVD rips though - by which I mean VIDEO_TS folders/ISOs. Those I just have in a folder. I don't have too many of those. MediaMonkey has a "VirtualCD" concept for media you don't have ripped but own in a physical form, and I hope they eventually extend this to video, because then it would be a great database to extend to my physical media collection as well (All of my music is ripped, but not most of my DVD/BluRay collection, so for now it depends more on my just knowing what I'm looking for, occasionally guided by an IMDB search if I'm looking for a specific episode of something) For ebooks I just use a directory structure. There's probably some metadata I could attatch to files if I really needed to in Windows to make it easier to use Windows to search, but it hasn't reaely come up yet. I don't have a photo collection, so I can't recommend anything there...

  79. Re:Oh really? by Risen888 · · Score: 1

    No doubt. Right now at this moment I've got 224 Gb of audio. In all honesty, no, that's not 100% "stuff I got legally," but easily 2/3 of it is, probably more. The lion's share of that is CDs I've ripped to FLAC. I'm not a big movie/TV buff, but I could see a collection like that getting huge in a hurry too.

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  80. Just Music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    try Billy from Sheepfriends for all ur song collection. it indexes using a text file. very fast search .!!! and very good keyboard shortcuts.. very lightweight..

  81. One word... well acronym... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    XBMC

    Works great. It indexes my 2TB of movies and Tv shows... although I am trimming the TV shows down, no reason to watch season 1 episode 3 of glee more than once.

    Plus how often do you REALLY need to sit down and watch " the last 3 Sigoruny Weaver" movies.. you browse by Genre 99.99783% of the time. People all claim they want to search video content by director, actor,etc but in reality they never use that. And yes I know what I am talking about I have installed and helped with several hundred installs ofhttp://www.kaleidescape.com/ media systems... after a year you discover that by title and by genre are the ONLY search methods used. These are owned by people far FAR richer than all of you here on slashdot combined and have very little time to waste.. they dont search by director or actor ever.

    Honestly step one is to be realistic about your media organization. Do not go nuts and cross reference on everything...

    "Show me all the films that had a Audi R6 in it", "show me all films that were shot on a Tuesday in France when it was raining....."

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  82. Interpreter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "interpreter" != "performer"?
    What odd choice of word. Must be signaling something to someone.

  83. Try Alfresco Community Edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is exactly what Alfresco Content Management does.

    Disclosure: I work for Alfresco

  84. meedios by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When something like media portal or xbmc is too restricted you might want to look at www.meedios.com

    Its built around databases and plugins so comic books, recipes, tvshows ect are no problem.

  85. Windows Live Gallery by cllb21 · · Score: 1

    For photos, its the best, in my opinion. Has a simple interface, can add tags easily, and organize them too, by tags or folders. You have both views available all the time. I use it for backup too, 'cause I can upload one group of photos (be it a folder or all the ones under a tag) to a SkyDrive folder, and set permissions there for only my family and/or friends to see.

    And I love its import photo utility, when I put a memory card, etc. Want to copy all the photos or organize them by groups? You can do it right in the moment they're been imported. Always keep your photos organized and tagged from the beginning. You'll avoid painful search later.

    So, if you look for easy and practical personal photo management, it's the best.

    NOTE: Not to be confused with Windows Photo Gallery, the one that comes with Windows Vista. That one only have an import all your photos option. And you can only see your photos by tag, but no by folders, that doesn't work for me.

  86. Re:stream by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Watch out for those new laws kicking around congress, because it might soon become illegal to stream from a non authorized source.

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  87. Access by gotpoetry · · Score: 1

    Clearly, this calls for an access database. Back it up to Excel.

  88. Not quite the expected answer... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    Back in the early 00's I had a problem with having a huge music library and trying to keep it synced across my work computer, home computer, and laptop. It was frustrating, I had a 'collection' but in 3 distinct piles. I'd end up with some songs on one machine and different ones on another, etc. At some point a music subscription service came along. I gave it a go and I'm still happy with it even today. Instead of having to copy 10's of gigs of MP3s over, I just install the app, log in, and play.

    I know music-on-demand isn't highly regarded around here, but seriously, I don't miss keeping track of all that music. I do, however, enjoy finding new stuff to listen to and being able to hear it in its entirety.

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  89. Re:Oh really? by PIBM · · Score: 1

    My camera is putting out 14GB/hour of videos I'm recording. My oldest girl is not yet 2 years, and our second baby not yet 4 months old, yet I've already amassed multi-terabyte of videos of them. A terabyte is not so big, so stop worrying.

  90. Re:One word... well acronym... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the other hand, those options are useful to people who want to create a theme movie night or something. Movies directed by X or have Y in a lead role? Simple search. Just because the search option isn't used much or at all doesn't mean it is useless - although some things are a bit extreme as you pointed out.

  91. DO NOT WANT! by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    they have iTunes for Linux now? amazing.
    what's the link for the repository to point APT at ?

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  92. Re:Oh really? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    Sure. And I'm sure this is typical of Slashdot users, and he needs to know which of his home videos were directed by Ridley Scott, and has novels written about their children by Terry Pratchett.

    But is it at all possible, just conceivably, that there are some Slashdot users who acquire media through downloading from the internet without permission from the copyright holder?

  93. XBMC by BLKMGK · · Score: 1

    For movies and TV shows, even music, XBMC handles this well and lets me do various sorts of my library. I use Ember on Windows to look up and create NFO files for the media. Not perfect and obviously doesn't cover all needs but it's a start and is a good front-end.

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  94. Try Unibas (www.unibas.org) by vpaul · · Score: 1

    Unibas has been written to manage large collections of documents
    (text, audio, video, images, ...) and their metadata.

    Disclaimer: I am its author, and it's alpha.
    It has been tested on Debian and Ubuntu only.

  95. well... by thefixer(tm) · · Score: 1

    Once upon a time there was a product that was awesome for this called iView, but then Microsoft bought it and it's soul was crushed and never heard from again. But that would have been a perfect solution for you...if it wasn't for the evil empire.

  96. Re:Oh really? by PIBM · · Score: 1

    Yes, totally. But it's kind of redondant to ask about it whenever someone specify the size of the collection in GB.

    Well, to perhaps help the original poster, I enter all the dvd/blu-ray I own on imdb. Their system is well integrated, and allows to search in your collection. My blu-ray & dvd collection is in a nice bookcase, ordered by blu-ray, then dvd, and by name. So it's pretty easy to get the one I want (and imdb keeps track of the dvd/bluray difference.)

  97. Already done dude... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    rewind, play, rewind, play, rewind, play...
    ever get the feeling sometimes that people that are supposed to check content for duplication just aren't doing their jobs....?
    I did get a great utility to help me with this exact problem, seeing as this is note the first, second , third , fourth, or fifth time we talk about this...but i will let you go back into time to find the links, because i just don't want to waste another minute again on this topic.

  98. Re:One word... well acronym... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a bunch of crap... can't count how many times I want to see that film with that actor and can't remember the title. Genre is even worse as my brain may simply not agree with common classifications sometimes. Then again I'm not an ultra-rich megalomaniac with no time to waste...

  99. Probably already been said... by lavaboy · · Score: 1

    but:

    video and music: redundant server storage with cifs/smb access and a front end like Media Portal (i use a windows home server box with about 12 TB on it and Media Portal on a nearly silent media pc connected to my tv via hdmi and my A/V Reciever and to the server via HomePlug networking- and yeah, i know xbmc will run on linux, but i find MP easier to use and keep working and aesthetically pleasing - XBMC is running as a toy on my classic xbox). Just for fun, I have StreamtoMe set up on my server to allow me to watch stuff on the go with my iPad or iPod, but this doesn't really help with the organization part too much.

    comics: redundant server storage and ComicRack

    Photos: redundant server storage and either Picasa, Adobe Photoshop Elements or Media Portal

    and books i keep on my iTunes (ipod and ipad) or Kindle.

    Use the stuff that a lot of people have already put a lot of thought into before you try to innovate, at least until you determine that their solutions are inadequate for your needs.

    essentially what you need is some kind of fault tolerant network storage and a robust purpose built, database based front-end to handle the organization, access and presentation.

    Easy-peasy. The hard part is finding all this stuff, and buying the necessary hardware... Google is your friend here.

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  100. Text based solution by paiute · · Score: 1

    At work I use copernic Desktop Search. Relatively inexpensive and indexes network drives. It's like a personal miniGoogle. Good for searching the text associated with your multimedia files.

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  101. Dspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out Dspace. Open source, free, yada yada.

    Check out the following thesis my wife did on creating digital repositories. She used Dspace and we setup a box to do it that is still online

    http://explorer.cyberstreet.com/CET4970H-Peterson-Thesis.pdf

    Dspace server we setup

    http://alexandria.cyberstreet.com

    1. Re:Dspace by strangeattraction · · Score: 1

      Over kill. Mainly a repository for archiving digital material for large institutions.

  102. Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I've stolen so much that I don't know where to put it! Help!"

    1. Re:Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Cue the "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT IS NOT THEFT so it's perfectly fine for me to never pay creators for anything!" crowd .)

  103. SwissCenter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Built around LAMP, it stores data in a MySQL database, and has scripts to gather metadata from imdb, thetvdb and the likes. Released under the GPL and therefore extensible, and under active development; Media can be accessed through a web-interface; SwissCenter streams media to various devices and clients.

    From their wiki:
    SwissCenter http://www.swisscenter.co.uk/ is a free replacement for the software provided with a variety of Network Media Players (NMPs) manufacturers such as Netgear, Pinnacle, Buffalo, Lite-On, etc. The goal of the SwissCenter software is to provide a powerful user interface that can cope with large media collections whilst remaining simple to use.

  104. Re:Oh really? by dougisfunny · · Score: 1

    I have 3TB of TV recordings on my MythTV box.
    300GB of steam games.
    13GB of music.

    It's really easy to accumulate lots of media without resorting to high seas plundering.

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  105. Songbird by DaFallus · · Score: 1

    You might want to check out Songbird. It is a lot like iTunes except it is open source.

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  106. Re:One word... well acronym... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, except for tv series it can be different. I may want to find all top gear episodes where they drive a Bugatti Veyron, or Find all SNL episodes with Will Farrell. I don't do it often, but it would be really useful on occasion where I know I want to see a specific episode, but can't remember when it aired or what it was called.
    FWIW, I do use XBMC for my media needs, and am very happy with it.

  107. Re:One word... well acronym... by Penggren · · Score: 1

    I have used XBMC for years as well, I love the fact that it can fetch a episode description from the internet most of the time. There are a few descriptions missing from where ever it gets the info for Star Trek DS9.

  108. Re:Oh really? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    Fair enough. I'm not sure "Time Shifting" actually explicitly allows for indefinite archival, so you may well be acting outside the law in your case.

    I only have about 300GB of video on my machine. I'd say pretty much all of it was downloaded from the internet. Also about 14GB of music which I'd say is a 50/50 split.

    But my point is, it seems so odd, that a website like Slashdot, where it's generally considered that copyright restrictions are far too heavily weighted in the favour of the media cartels would be so defensive when accused of acting in a manner consistent with this position. There's no reason to be so. Where's the shame in breaking a law you disagree with?

  109. wrong... by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 2

    You'll spend the rest of your life transferring it from medium to medium.

    Nope. Actually, every iteration gets exponentially faster. So, recording anything analog means 1:1 recording speeds. But for CDs, it's about 16:1. And once the data is on a hard drive, it might as well be instant.

    Is it worth it?

    "You ever see The Wire?"
    "Nope, never got around to it."
    "Here's a copy."

    NOTE: the preceding hypothetical conversation assumes you have friends.

  110. Softlinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Softlinks will do what you need.

  111. Ontologies and Tracker by tchernobog · · Score: 1

    You want something that allows you to search upon semantic data, for example for authors, title or other content.

    I use Tracker for that, and it works fine.

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  112. Dspace by pcjunky · · Score: 1

    Look at Dspace. Open source, free, yada yada

    My wife did her thesis on digital repositories (link below) I helped setup the server and it is still online.

    http://alexandria.cyberstreet.com/

    Here thesis

    http://explorer.cyberstreet.com/CET4970H-Peterson-Thesis.pdf

    Repost from my account, the earlier one posted without logging in seems to have been lost.

  113. I like my collection too :) by RulerOf · · Score: 3, Informative

    Having everything I want locally saves me time searching the internet for it

    Agreed.

    Perhaps I'm the odd man out, but I do like going over my media collection (which is automatically sorted) and just trimming the fluff everyone once in a while. Making sure files are named right, getting all the movie trailers, filling in a gap where I'm missing a season, and so on.

    It's not really that it's a compulsion, but more of a hobby. I like having a movie and TV show collection, and the fact that I can have a digital one sitting on a RAID array increases the usability and coolness factors.

    Organize TV Shows with Sickbeard. Organize movies with either Media Center Master or MyMovies. Better stuff for movies undoubtedly exists, but I'm not too sure what it would be.

    Also, if you want your computer to surprise you with new content and you're not afraid of complex config files, give FlexGet a try.

    Finding time to watch all of it.... that's the real kicker :D

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  114. Home Grown by PerlDave · · Score: 1

    I have/had a similar problem with my media collection. My solution, at the end of the day, was to build something myself.

    As one might guess from my handle, I used PERL, and made a few web applications that serve my purpose fairly well. I have a component that scans my media directories over night and add the data to a mysql database. Another component then uses to filename to check against http://www.themoviedb.org/ and http://www.imdb.com/. If a good match is found, a poster is downloaded, and the database is populated with the title, year, dirtector, plot summary, and a list of relevant genres. The main part of the application is a web based interface that lets me search by title or keyword, or browse by genre.

    If the scrapping script find no matches, or multiple matches between which my script cannot decide, it is flagged for attention. There is a CGI script that shows me these items, gives me the possible matches, and allows me to modify the search by and a bit to get to the correct listing.

    I'm betting there are some packages out there that would do this all for me, but I enjoyed the experience of building it myself. I suppose if there are not other such programs, maybe with more work, and some help I could make my home grown tool available under the GPL.

  115. Maybe ExistDB by strangeattraction · · Score: 1

    You might try adding meta-data to your hierarchy using a simple xml shema. Then use ExistDB to index the xml. Then you can use XQuery to query across the entire dataset. MySQL will also allow you to XQuery a field with xml. Forget the semantic stuff it is more trouble than it is worth. They can;'t decide on the standards. Another option is use CouchDB and store you meta-data as JSON which is pretty easy also.

  116. Dito by visionbeyond · · Score: 1

    I do understand all to well what you asking for, and you'd think that it would be a fairly commonly found need, but apparently it's slim to none of anyone creating an all-in-one media manager. I too have a pretty large media collection consisting over about 1.5 TB of video, 80 GB of music, 30 GB of pictures, 28 GB of books, and other misc media. How to keep any sanity with it all has proven to be tasking.

    While I'd love to know if you do find a good solution for it all, maybe some of the better solutions I've found will help you out or point you in the right direction. All of the following are open source Linux solutions that are pretty commonly found. I use Gallery to manage all my photos and even my self shot video, which is a pretty powerful and easy to install web based system. Couldn't really ask much more for organizing, managing, and making your collection available from anywhere - but still protected if so desired.

    For my movie collection the best thing I found was Griffith, which is far from perfect or ideal, but is still young and they are making great strides with it's development. You can use one of a pretty long list of sources, which automatically grabs the majority of any movie details, downloads the poster and whatnot, but more importantly makes the information cross-reference friendly. So you can search for movies by director, or actor, or key grip if you want. Nice too that it imports and exports, although not in an ideal format.

    The finally for music I kind of jump around between Clementine, Banshee, and Rhythmbox. All three are excellent players that handle a wide range of searching and playing ease, as well as recommending similar styles, genre, downloading covers and lyrics, etc. One key thing I absolutely have to have it mapping to my "extra" keys, which all three do. The Erognomic 4000 keyboard by Microsoft is about the only thing I've really liked that came from Microsoft, and I love it - even though way over priced. LOL

    Oh if there were only a way to smash these together. Maybe if I find some spare time I'll start on a project doing just that, although "extra" time is tricky to come by these days...months... well last few years. *sigh*

  117. Invenio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a librarian I have been dealing with this for a long time. To put it simply, there no "out of the box" solution that will easily allow you to modify content/media types or link them (are you give a link to a file, or is all this going to be ingested into a large database?). If you are flexible, then any of the solutions above will be an asset. I have personally like using CDS Invenio which was developed by CERN. Pretty complicated, but very rich is tools and functionality especially if you can scrape metadata from other sources (IMDB for example).

    miles

  118. Mediadex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work as a Photoshopper in a pro-lab and we store thousands upon thousands of images in our DVD archive. The program we use is media-dex which stores a thumbnail and searchable tags. It works well and is fairly intuitive.

  119. None by hcdejong · · Score: 1

    I don't organize my films. Any information I want can be found through IMDB, I'm nog going to replicate that at home. Titles are enough.

  120. contenta video browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It offers fast video overviewing to easily find the file or even the instant you want to play.
    http://www.contenta-videobrowser.com
    Let me know what you think of it.

  121. MonolithicMedia.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've started a project aimed at addressing exactly this problem. It is still in early stages, but eventually I hope to turn it in to an all encapsulating media manager. It currently comes with a web interface, and the ability to extend and organize by any information cached in the database. But I plan to tie it in to an FTP server, WebDAV, and UPnP. There are some pretty neat scripts and more to come as soon as I find some times to work on it.
    The project page is MonolithicMedia.org
    Google code: http://code.google.com/p/monolithicmedia/

  122. Re:Oh really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    See, if he lives in Canuckistan, it's legal.

    I just bought 50 blank cd's. They were $17. The MUSIC LEVY was .30 a disc or $15.00. for a total of over $34.

    The music industry asked for this levy and now they have it. This effectively allows all downloads. Now they want to change it.. again. They've tried 3 times so far and it dies on the order paper every time.

    Fuck em, music is now free in Canada.

    Anon because of modding in this thread.

  123. BOFH style: delete instead of archieving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me recommend periodically deleting stuff which you don't feel like using anytime soon.

    The benefits are:
    1. Saves time - no time spent shuffling files around nor tagging them.
    2. Saves money - no need to buy additional hard drives.

    The downside is of course no digital media library to speak of. I can live with that.

    Andrei.

  124. Re:One word... well acronym... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Show me all the films that had a Audi R6 in it"

    I take it you don't know many car geeks then? :D

  125. Personal Video Database (PVD) by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

    PVD sounds like it would meet your needs. It's free and can scrape multiple sources for movie/TV show information and posters. It uses SQlite for the database.

    http://www.videodb.info/forum_en/

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  126. Obligatory ZFS Reference by Decker-Mage · · Score: 1

    I suppose I should insert the obligatory ZFS reference here. I'm going to that for my huge collection of books and documents although I have been heading into video-land now. Given the fact that the versions I've been looking at here have inline de-duplication, who cares if something is filed under one, five, or two-hundred directories. The built-in RAID characteristics make it interesting as well, although it isn't going to be magically fast (without serious hardware).

    For those of the Mac persuasion, I was over on Ars-Technica and came across a reference to a version for Mac in beta with a release target sometime around Summer. I don't do Mac, but the author has targeted it for media library use. Z-410

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  127. XBMC by theBully · · Score: 1

    Not sure if already suggested by someone else. I use XBMC which has a version for Linux, Windows, Mac. It also has a stand-alone (basic installation of Ubuntu with this APP over it) if you plan to use it as a Media Center computer.
    It catalogs movies and TV shows by fetching information from IMDB, TVDB and a whole lot of other websites and not only allows you to browse by Genre, Year, Actor, etc. but also fetches cover images and synopsis for your movies.
    As an added bonus it has a number of useful plugins which give you direct access to additional information (subtitles, YouTube access, movie trailers, song lyrics, etc.)
    It's free. Give it a try.

  128. Totally sucks about WinFS by lullabud · · Score: 1

    I was really looking forward to WinFS. Having abandoned windows for my personal needs but still having to support it, I was really looking forward to having a database layer on the filesystem. Sure sucks that they gave it up, along with several other key features in Vista. *Hopefully* they get around to it some day though, because the indexing service sucks serious balls, and that whole framework is pretty inferior.

  129. locate isn't a good solution by lullabud · · Score: 1

    I'm a big fan of locate if only because of its speed compared to other tools, but unless you have all of your metadata stored in the folders and filenames it's not going to be much help. With any elegant solution to this problem, you couldn't "locate -i 'Bruce Willis'" and find a list of media that he was involved with.

  130. Optical Media + Shelf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My strategy is to take all the movies and music files and burn them onto optical media disks. Generally I use a DVD disk for movies and a CD for music. As a rule of thumb I use one disk per media article (one movie on one DVD and one CD for one music album for example).

    Once I have completed this I like to archive those optical disks on a shelving unit of some kind (this can be a custom built piece of furniture or just a plank of wood). You can stack the disks vertically but, in order to ease later retrieval of the files, I prefer to put them inside disk cases and write, using a marker pen, the media article name so that the text can be read from the side. If I arrange the disks in a sequential order (alphabetically for me, but you can choose your own), finding the files becomes a cinch.

    Using this technique I can store hundreds of media files while still allowing for a tactile and authentic browsing experience.

    Advanced users of this technique can even print out their own CD or DVD covers that visually or artistically describe the contents of the media. This might be an image from the movie in question (if it's a movie) or perhaps the face of the singer (if it's a musical album). This can assist in selecting media articles best suited for the media browser's feelings or current mood.

  131. Re:One word... well acronym... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the time what you say is true, people are looking for a specific film and title search is sufficient. However for movie buffs, then having a merging of their media library + imdb + rotten tomatoes + personalized fields + whatever, might be fun. Quite often people become accustomed to the limitations that exist in life and learn to work within those limitations and rarely find such a situation impacting their desires. However sometimes having options leads you to discover new ways to find your shit and suddenly you realize how much the old way did limit you. If it's relatively trivial or automated to draw all this stuff together then why not do it and see what happens?

    Personally, I'd love to be able to merge data direct + imdb + my tv recordings + my dvd collection + afdb + my porn collection + cddb + my music collection by every possible sort criteria. Sure I may never want to get a listing of G rated movies starring an extra who did double anal cosplay porn in a previous career.. But it'd be nice to know I could if I wanted to.

  132. J River + XBMC by twebb72 · · Score: 2

    J River Media Center is BY FAR, the best commercial tagging software available. It does have its limits around HTPC use (its theater view is lacking). However, your tagging environment is fully customizable. You can create views based on custom metadata if needed. Most programs, tagging is contained within a box, with J River, there is NO box. It pairs nicely with XBMC for HTPC application. Tag in J River. Play in XBMC. (Get the android apps for both, you'll love it).

  133. Calibre for eBooks & WhereIsIt for everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Calibre is great for my eBook collection - I have a lot to add!

    WhereIsIt creates a great searchable catalog, and I have different databases for music, programs, shareware, etc

  134. Re: iTunes (another option) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although Handbrake frees iTunes of that particular nasty issue, at the cost of trancoding.

    I know I know, my workflow looks like this: MakeMKV->Handbrake->iTunes for most of my media.

  135. use an integrated library system like koha by ffflala · · Score: 1

    Use an open source integrated library system like koha http://koha.org/. These are designed precisely for organizing multiple types of media. While they generally are used at a larger scale, they easily scale down to smaller personal libraries like yours.

    Since it's a personal, local library, you will only need to use a few of the available modules -- no need for circulation, acquisitions, etc. While some of your media does have the option for auto-retrieval in more limited media systems like iTunes, for the level of organization, access, and retrieval you want, you will need some manual review.

  136. Is this one of them "Troll" things? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Your son isn't going to die if he sees some gore or some tits.
    Having a 5-year old screen "Saw 4" WILL have an impact.

    If he's too young to see something, he won't be interested in it at all.
    You're arguing that children exhibit age-appropriate self-restraint. That is absurd.

    If he's interested, it's your job to provide context, not censorship.
    Ensuring that the son, regardless of his level of interest, does not have access to Mom & Dad's honeymoon video (i.e. censorship) IS the parent's job.

    Parental controls are for lazy parents.
    Parental controls are, simply, a tool. Parents who use tools are lazy?

    Parenting is your job not the computer's.
    Did you actually understand the excerpt you included? They want tools optimized for parenting. They ARE parenting, snotty insinuations aside.

  137. How many kids do you have? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 2

    Your son isn't going to die if he sees some gore or some tits.

    I have two questions. How old are you and how many kids do you have? My guess is the answers are "young" and "zero". So I guess I should let my 6 year old son just watch ass-to-mouth porn then. I don't think so. Contrary to your simplistic world view, there are some things that children are not ready for. Even this weekend, I was watching Phantom Menace with my oldest son (he's 6) for the first time. It led to all kinds of very difficult questions about death that he was probably only ready for 80% of ensuing discussion.

    I'm currently 38 and I've had ready access to porn since I had my first 300 baud modem in 1986. I'm no prude and certainly don't think that children should be shielded from everything. But your speaking in absolutes that kids will either be ready to comprehend it or be disinterested in it just sounds pretty dumb.

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    1. Re:How many kids do you have? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you! There, now your kids can't read /. either.

  138. Not hard to find by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

    There are only three categories in your list: music, video and books.

    Just google it. There is more video / music management software out there than could hope to mention, both free and unfree. For books I use Calibre.

    The problem I suppose is that while CDs and music files are mostly tagged correctly, the TV shows and comic books from, ahem, questionable sources, are less likely to have as useful metadata.

  139. Re:One word... well acronym... by Centurix · · Score: 1

    Show me all films with a fastback Mustang chasing a '69 Dodge Charger.

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  140. LONG FILE NAMES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Pick a file name format and make sure you stick to it. Long file names are your friend because you can do simple file searches on a drive and find things.

    The following is the directory and file name format that I've used over 12 years. The benefits are: albums are automatically sorted by the order of release, individual songs can be copied to other locations and you still know exact what it is.
    \ \ _ \ ___.mp3

  141. Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by lpq · · Score: 1

    I have all my libraries on a home server running linux and samba.

    Win7's desktop search refuses to index networked drives.

    1. Re:Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      That is because you are using the wrong approach. Instead of using Win 7 desktop search use the libraries feature and then you should be able to index the libraries no prob. That is what libraries are for, to give you a central location for accessing things placed all over.

      So the problem isn't Win 7, the problem is you are trying to do things the old way when Win 7 has better tech with libraries.

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    2. Re:Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by lpq · · Score: 1

      library content can't be located on a remote NAS drive.
      the only libraries that can be 'searched' in the way that you allude to are ones that are on a Windows Server -- so if I was to run Windows server on my home NAS drives, then no prob, but AFAIK, there is no way for me to create 'libraries on non-Windows' OS's.

      If you know of a way, to create libraries of content of networked drives located on linux-based machines sharing via Samba(CIFS), please point to a URL.

    3. Re:Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      What you need is this hotfix but since Samba does NOT conform to the Windows indexing protocol it WILL be slower than native.

      If the NAS is an x86 or x64 machine I would just pick up a cheap copy of Win 7 Home Server (or real WinServer, look around you can find copies of WinServer SBS usually cheap) and then Win 7 will give you native speed on indexing network shares.

      It is no different than how Linux machines don't index Windows shares at native speed, they simply don't speak the same language, but the hotfix will give you a "quick and dirty" workaround albeit one that is slower than native. Finally this link will give you a nice overview and lists which combos are supported.

      Sadly as has always been the case with Samba they are usually a day late and a dollar short, even though MSFT released the protocol specs as part of their deal with the EU. Can't really blame them though, as the FOSS insistence on "free as in beer" simply doesn't give them the extra manpower required to keep up with such complex protocols. If past performance is an indication you should have Win 7 native search integrated in Samba about the time Windows 9 comes out. Sorry.

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    4. Re:Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by lpq · · Score: 1

      I already tried the 'hotfix' that is listed in that article.

      It says "this hotfix" (which is labeled as only being for ia-64) is not compatible with Win7(64).

      I do have SP1, and the hot fix says it is for SP1, but it doesn't have a hot fixed listed for the x86-32 or x86-64 bit platform -- despite some garbage text on the KB page that claims the Win2008 Server patch ia64 contains the win7-64 patch as well... It doesn't. And there are no other patches.

      As for switching over my linux servers to Windows? Do you know how much a windows license costs for all things my linux server does?

      (Domain, HTTP-PROXY, DNS, mail-server, router, firewall, backup-server, web-server, socks-server, spam-filter, X-server, 'development server (with full development environment', ssh server, remote-desktop server, ... among other functions... all with no-licensing hassles -- do you know how much MS, would charge for a copy of Windows server with all that with all licensing functions disabled?

      Yeah...right. Like any home user would even begin to consider that. On what planet?

      As for the 'slow indexing crap' -- my windows laptop's *local hard disks* had maximum read/write rates of 60-80MB'/s on a good day. Over the net, my max read/write rates are 125/119MB/s respectively.

      It was a pure outright way for MS to shut out people's home file storage unless they wanted to pay big bugs (er, big bucks, slight Freudian) for servers under MS-control. So how is 125MB max read considered 'slow', while a 60MB/s local drive is considered 'fast'?

      Thanks for the link -- I *WILL* try the registry approach for a single user, but it's less than ideal. Preferable would be for MS to open up the indexing protocol so I could run an indexing process on my local server, and return the results in the format they desire. If they really want to 'server' customers, and this isn't just a money & power grab...

      Not holding my breath...

    5. Re:Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Uhhhh...WHY would you use the MSFT version of all those functions exactly? Hell this ain't Linux, everybody uses third party here son. As for licensing issues MSFT frankly doesn't care WHAT you do as long as you aren't running a business on it. If you are at risk of a BSAA audit then you need to care, otherwise not.

      But hell it isn't like WinServer is expensive, you just don't buy the latest version. Here is WinServer 2K3 standard for $144 and that ought to do everything you want it to do, and there shouldn't be any indexing troubles. And if you want 2K8...got any friends that are students? They can get it cheap. Hell I still got my 2K3 server discs lying in a drawer somewhere from when I was a student, they practically give server away hoping you'll keep using it when you graduate.

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    6. Re:Win7-'s libs are broken though -- no network by lpq · · Score: 1

      I don't want to use the MSFT version of all those functions, but if I switch my server to Winserver 2k3, then I would no longer have the linux server that is running all those functions. That's why I said I'd need the MS server to run all of those functions @ the same price, performance and support level.

            The point is that my server runs fine using linux -- to convert it to an MS server would cause huge headaches, performance problems and software availability problems.

      What I want is extremely simple -- have MS tell me what they need in a 'remote index server', so my linux server can answer my client requests for indexed files the same as an MS server... Can that be that difficult?
      It's just an 'rpc' interface, it's not rocket science, and only has to do with indexing local content.

      The only reason this is needed is because the default indexing server on the win clients no longer will index my network content. If they had not removed that feature (present in XP), then it wouldn't be an issue, but since they changed the way content indexing is done, I need to upgrade my content server to provide an index in their format.

      Either that, OR, allow my win7 client index service to index my network drives in background -- that would be fine with me as well -- not as efficient, I'd admit, but given I don't use my machine 24/7 and given the extra core (have a 6-core xeon), running background indexing over network content would hardly be noticeable under most circumstances.

      In fact, background indexing of remote(network) drives would be less cpu intensive than indexing the local drives, as my local drives on my win7 machine are about 5X that of my 120MB/s R/W network drives, so the indexing process would be that much less I/O bound and use proportionally more cpu on local content.

  142. Not iTunes by Hyperhaplo · · Score: 1

    Not when the itunes software disables the dvd drive. In this day and age it is rude that software disables hardware in the manner that itunes disables dvd rom drives.

    Yes, I know, there is an M$ fix to correct some of the problems. That still doesn't give me the hours back of my time trying to unscrew what itunes did.

    Worse, Apple still hasn't fixed the basic problems with itunes. It is still as flaky as it was several versions ago. It is a *database*. Why can't it store duplicates? Why does it not remember previous file names? Why does it blat file names? Why can't you look up an existing file name? How on earth can it not use a singular point of reference for files - MD5 sum perhaps?

    Worst of all, millions of people are now using itunes.. giving them the platform to say 'our software is great!'.

    Anything but itunes.

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  143. find library index once a week by allo · · Score: 0

    and grep "sometitle" index

  144. The easy way by boggin4fun · · Score: 0

    updatedb locate *filename*

    1. Re:The easy way by Chemtox · · Score: 1

      Agreed. It doesn't gets much simpler than locate -i, when you have a detailed folder structure. Pair it with Emacs (M-x shell), and you can quickly search, filter, yank-rectangle to a script for mass renaming, query with Perl-eQL, whatever.

      (on the downside, you *do* have to remember to quote the filenames for further processing...)

  145. Bibliographic tools: EndNote, Zotero... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I store an extensive amount of files of all sorts, video, sound, files in a variety of formats,

    I use bibliographic tools because it gives me high levels of custimizability... EndNote is the market leader with great options.... Zotero is open source and can run from your browser (firefox)...

  146. I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never metadata I didn't like.

  147. Re: iTunes (another option) by bulled · · Score: 1

    Except that Apple doesn't seem to believe in people holding media on a network mountable device and not local so any time I start iTunes it hangs the process for days doing the Gapless analysis on my mp3 library. iTunes is garbage for anything but the most simple configuration.

  148. Digital Asset Management systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a look at NotreDAM and Razuna

  149. Re:Oh really? by dougisfunny · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure copyright explicitly allows for indefinite protection, but that doesn't seem to stop all the extensions.

    As for the shame, it probably comes from the confusion of wanting to support the people who make the music you love, but not the evil industry middlemen who like to exploit everyone.

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  150. Open source alternatives? by thomasdn · · Score: 1

    "Opensource alternatives are preferred, but commercial software is fine as well."

    Why open source alternatives? For me open source (or rather free software) is the default choice, commercial software can in some circumstances be an acceptable alternative.

  151. MediaMonkey by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    If you are OK with closed-source freeware, I've found MediaMonkey to be very good for music - handles a load of file formats, what I feel is a smooth and effective interface, et cetera. Easy multitagging, good integrated gathering of data on ripped CD's for the most part...
    I thought my collection was large at ~9K tracks and ~100GB, but you've definitely got me beat

    I organize the stuff into desired folder hierarchy (generally a variant of Genre\Artist\Album) before I import it into the program.

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  152. WhereIsIt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WhereIsIt, isn't pretty or specific to any one type of media (does not download additional info from the net). But it can be adapted to any media collection (thru categories & flags cross indexing). Very fast (I don't have any catalogs over 50,000, so I can only vouch, up to that size) & each item can have auto or manual covers/images assigned to it.