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Technology Sectors that are Hot or Heating Up Now?

unemployedCoder-in-retraining asks: "As a recently "leisured" programmer, I'm very interested in trying to turn misfortune into opportunity. This means using this career discontinuity to bone up on the latest-n-greatest in the hot sectors of the industry, to offer a better chance of a finding another great job. Of course, then one asks: 'What's Hot?' The Telco/Switching sector seems to have flatlined (Nortel and Lucent as examples). Cable and DSL access device and service development seems to be struggling. Wireless 3G networks seem to be having a hard time in North America. And yet, we here that a recovery is underway and that the technology sector as a whole is picking up again. So I ask you: 'Where?' In what sectors? What are the most important new technologies to learn to enhance employability? Somewhere, somebody is hiring or will be soon. What do I and other victims of the slowdown have to know to 'get back in the saddle' in the near future?"

374 comments

  1. Don't chase trends by csb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By the time you figure out what's hot and train for it, it won't be hot any more. Just do what you like to do, do it well, and put yourself in a position where somebody will recognize you for it. Chasing trends will only exhaust you.

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    1. Re:Don't chase trends by selderrr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I will depend heavily on the trend, and the trendsetter. If you want to chase a trent set by some small town startup, you're probably fucked indeed. If you follow a trens set up by a donkey with enough cash momentum to give that trend a huge initial push, you can hook up and ride along for quite some time.
      A few examples are .Net, XBox, java, 3D games, palm stuff... most of these started as a gadget that turned into a trend which turned into a full blown sector. Some of these will survive, some will die out.

      Hey, the poster asked for interseting job opportunities, right ? He didn't ask for an interesting or valuabble job !

    2. Re:Don't chase trends by neuroticia · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Chasing trends quite simply *will not* get you anywhere. Of course, neither will merely "doing something you like".

      Today's employer is looking for a well-rounded individual with a diverse skillset that includes a "working knowledge" (which appears to be the 'cname' for "I know of it, and if you give me a book and 3 days to read it, I can convince people who don't know much about it that I'm an expert") of the trends, but also a more traditional background. (ie: systems administrators should know some form of Unix, and be able to fake their way through Windows... Programmers should know C, C++ or another "commonly accepted industrial-strength" programming language... On TOP of that they can know the latest buzzword OS to hit the market, and whatever odd new language has been thrown into the fray.

      Having a well-rounded body of knowledge that includes both the 'classics', and the 'top 50' shows that you can be grounded and keep up at the same time.

      Optionally, you can follow the path that an increasing number of people seem to be following. Abandon the computer field for a bit. Look into occupations that seem to be suffering from a shortage of qualified workers. (Interpreters, home health care workers, etc.) If you're really at a loss for "what to learn" (there's so MUCH you should never find yourself asking this question.) then you just might find it a relief to get away from this particular industry for a while.

      That said--I would suggest that you don't spend much time chasing the trends at all. Bone up on the 'classics', once you get those entrenched in your mind it's a very short leap to figure out where the path leads from there.

      -Sara

    3. Re:Don't chase trends by InternalWave · · Score: 1

      I tend to agree. What really tends to enhance a career is concentration on application areas. And these areas can be pretty niche, surprisingly so.

      Specializing in printing technologies is an example of what I mean. If you know what you're talking about in this area you won't lack for work, for example.

      I am minded of a buddy of mine who I did some contract work for some time back, while I was also "leisured" in between "real" software jobs. I've known him for about 6 years...when I met him he was a specialist in programming hotel entertainment electronics. He still is, albeit now as a CTO for a small, pretty successful company. I suspect that 5 years down the road he will still be a specialist in software for hotel entertainment electronics.

      Game designers and programmers, strange lot that they are, are another example. So are folks who specialize in version control systems. Etc etc. Any number of examples.

      Just a thought. All I know is, once you hit about the ten year mark in your career, it's no longer enough to say that you're a quick study, and that you not only know programming but can also demonstrate substantial software engineering skills - the employers also want to see some serious domain knowledge. That's also your only edge over all the young pups, personal qualities aside.

    4. Re:Don't chase trends by motorhead · · Score: 0

      Two words -- Porno Websites

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    5. Re:Don't chase trends by 4of12 · · Score: 2

      Abandon the computer field for a bit. Look into occupations that seem to be suffering from a shortage of qualified workers.

      Actually, what I think works better is to expand on your non-computer areas of expertise and become someone that is qualified at bringing IT solutions to the $AREA.

      Say you know computers and used cars. Then, you'll have a leg up on people that only know one of those two areas. Granted, you'll have greater competition if you're looking to become a simple used car salesman or a plain IT hack with no other skills. But, if you can demonstrate to prospective employers that you know IT in a particular industry, I think you'll find it to be more rewarding and lucrative.

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  2. Wrong Forum by brad3378 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds more like a thermodynamics problem

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  3. .NET by selderrr · · Score: 2

    not that I can tell if the technology is any good, but if I lock you up for 10 days with 5 managers and a horse, both you and the horse will come out with eye-stare, mumbling '.NET is cool, .NET is the way to go...'

    this assumes offcourse that all 5 managers are as brainwashed as possible, but that's probably the easiest part.

  4. pornography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Porn has always made money, and always will. So if your morals are OK with it, go be a gearhead for a porn site or publisher.

    I don't remember who said it, but I once read a quote that was along the lines of "The whole of computer science is nothing more than methods for increasing the efficiency of generating, storing, transmitting, viewing, and enjoying pornography." Heh.

    Or, to update the recurrent slashjoke:

    • Step 1: Satisfy people's base urges in an easy and discreet manner.
    • Step 2: Open merchant account.
    • Step 3: Mega-Profit
    1. Re:pornography by LinuxCumShot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The adult website market is too crowded, hard to get in an make money, and you have to deal with people stealing your photots. Other websites and users, and the gov't is more interrested in protecting music and movies than your smut, so you are on your own. Plus after 8 years of no worring about indecency, Dubya is back at tossing people in jail for fisting and such... plus the script kiddies and xxx password sites steal your bandwidth... its a tough business... and then your wife leaves you because you dicked on of your models...

      No my friends, the money is in the back end, servers and such, image viewers... supply the porn indusrtry with what it needs and the money will come rolling in... only down side is you won't actually get to see/touch the naked people.

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    2. Re:pornography by grokBoy · · Score: 1
      Shouldn't that be:

      Step 1: Satisfy people's base urges in an easy and discreet manner.

      Step 2: We don't know

      Step 3: Mega-Profit

      ???

      :-)

    3. Re:pornography by Tranvisor · · Score: 4, Informative

      Come on, give credit where credit's due.

      The Step 1,2,3 joke is from a Southpark episode. Specifically, "The Underpants Gnomes".

      The original joke was that the gnnomes buisness method was:

      Step 1: Steal Underpants
      Step 2: ??? (None of the gnomes could remember)
      Step 3: Profit!!

    4. Re:pornography by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

      I want poseable porn! That's surely within our technological grasp.

      Try Poser from Metacreations.

      http://www.metacreations.com/

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    5. Re:pornography by mickwd · · Score: 3, Funny

      "No my friends, the money is in the back end"

      No wonder they call it dirty money.

    6. Re:pornography by dubl-u · · Score: 3, Funny

      But that episode didn't air until 1998. Clearly they stole it from here:

      Step 1: Get market share
      Step 2: ???
      Step 3: Profit!!

      Which was the business plan of 92% of VC-funded internet companies starting in 1996.

  5. AI by Astin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where I'm working (large financial institution) they're starting to look into AI as a means of predicting market movement and trends. One could see this as becoming key in other areas as well. Any field that tries to predict chaos or long-term trends could potentially be looking into this.

    Of course, there's the danger you'll invent a supercomputer that takes of the world and sends killer robots back in time to kill the leader of the resistance. This naturally would lead to his psychotic mother trying to kill you and you ultimately sacrificing yourself to save the future. Something to think about.

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    1. Re:AI by dsyu · · Score: 1

      Based on the parent post, my advice to the story originator would be, "There's no fate but what we make for ourselves".

    2. Re:AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Of course, there's the danger you'll invent a supercomputer that takes of the world and sends killer robots back in time to kill the leader of the resistance. This naturally would lead to his psychotic mother trying to kill you and you ultimately sacrificing yourself to save the future. Something to think about.
      You know, diet coke really hurts when it goes through your nose. ;-)
    3. Re:AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I'm working (large financial institution) they're starting to look into AI as a means of predicting market movement and trends.



      It is my understanding that the field of Computational Finance has been around for quite some time. For example many large financial institutions have used neural networks and expert systems to decide who is a good credit risk and when is a good time to dump the Euro.

    4. Re:AI by jesser · · Score: 3, Funny

      Where I'm working (large financial institution) they're starting to look into AI as a means of predicting market movement and trends.

      If your AI predicts that AI is the hot field for the next few years, do you trust it?

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    5. Re:AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Any field that tries to predict chaos..."

      The main property of chaos its unpredictability (due to lack of parameters or their precision).

      Want to predict chaos? Collect more data or more precise data (or enchance the model to better use the available data). But then you're not looking at chaos anymore, you're building a model to bring order.

    6. Re:AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't want to sound like a complete asshole, but AI has been tried and failed each decade since 50s. It's the sure-fire will-not-work field of various technologies. Interesting to study and research, possibly, one may earn living with it, but there's yet to come actual implementation of core AI stuff. Then again, just like moonflight gave us teflon, AI has given LISP. :-)

    7. Re:AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      to look into AI as a means of predicting market movement and trends

      Seeing how clueless stock analysts are, wouldn't you rather need Artificial Stupidity? Hmmh, come to think of that just get your Pointy Haired Manager to do your AS and you are all set!

    8. Re:AI by dubl-u · · Score: 2

      Large financial institutions have been doing this for quite a while. The crash of '87 was allegedly made substantially worse by automated trading systems, so much so that the SEC muzzled 'em substantially.

      The nice thing about working for financial companies is that they aren't afraid to spend money if they think they can make money. But beware: trading atracts the most prodigious bullshitters and superstious nut-jobs that I've ever seen. If I could get a dollar for everybody who thought they had sure-fire way to beat the market and make millions, I'd make millions.

    9. Re:AI by rustman · · Score: 1

      I worked for a company who was using this type of technology to provide a service to financal services companies. That company is no longer in business, even after demonstrating a working product. The problem is that financial institutions move far too slowly, and want proof that things will work for a year or more before they will commit to them.

      We thought our sales cycles would be 6-9 months.. it turned out to be 18-24 months.

      We eventually sold our technology to E*Trade and some other large financial companies. As far as I know, it is still not deployed into production.

    10. Re:AI by dagg · · Score: 1

      BTW, 'AI' equals 'Adult Industry'.

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  6. Adult Industry by LinuxCumShot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good times or bad times, the adult industry is unaffected. And they are always the first ones to adopt new tech...

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    1. Re:Adult Industry by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 5, Funny

      And they are always the first ones to adopt new tech...

      ...especially if it vibrates.

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    2. Re:Adult Industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Overrated and underrated are not subject to metamoderation. It's a huge loophole that makes metamoderation worthless.

    3. Re:Adult Industry by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* Good times or bad times, the adult industry is unaffected. *)

      That is not true. In paycheck-poor times one simply pastes new heads on old bodies using a pixel editor. You don't have to pay to get head images. (Cheapskate Geek Tip #74)

      Also, I wonder what will happen to the porn industry when people can buy porn simulation software that can generate/render infinate variations? Want 3 mellons instead of 2? No problem! It is hard for real girls to compete with that (except maybe at Chyrnobol).

    4. Re:Adult Industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      And they are always the first ones to adopt new tech...

      ...especially if it vibrates.

      Hey, _I_ vibrate! Who-hoo!

    5. Re:Adult Industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a matter of historic fact, the vibrator was one of the very first electric appliances. Invented when electro-mechanics was the cutting edge tech of the victorian era.

    6. Re:Adult Industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they are always the first ones to adopt new tech...

      ...especially if it vibrates.

      Mmmmm... I knew there was a reason I bought a Dual Shock controller...

    7. Re:Adult Industry by morgajel · · Score: 1

      yeah, they's whay they had 52x CDROM's first.

      I know mine vibrates.

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    8. Re:Adult Industry by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 2

      Aah, but someone has to write the porn simulation (or should I say stimulation) software. Someone has to produce the hardware. You see, there will always be something to do in the adult industry. Plus, they ARE the first ones to use new technology. Long distance telephone, VHS and web-video are just some of the examples of where the porn industry has been way ahead of the rest of the market.

    9. Re:Adult Industry by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* Aah, but someone has to write the porn simulation software *)

      Yes, but one person might generate enough images to put 10,000 other porn workers out of work. It is kind of like how computers put calculator clerks out of business. Supposedly the long-term trend is away from low-tech jobs to higher tech jobs. But, the problem is that they are going to India. I think the U.S. is becoming a Nation of Managers. If you are not a good manager, you are hosed. Low tech gets automated, high-tech is exported to India, so what is left is PHB's to manage everything else.

      That one porn software job might be interesting, however. "Boss, I need to study a few more live models to get scene 4 juuuust right."

    10. Re:Adult Industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeh, but if you live in Oz, yo'd hav a hard time finding a porn factory to work for - remember the laws that moved them all offshore?

  7. Reason for overly sunny info by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been reading the book Next (my father reccomended it. He's a businessman so it's at that level. It did have some interesting stuff though, like explaining the conflicts of interest that most financial advisers are involved in and how you can get more accurate estimates of profits just by reducing their estimates by 10%.

    So that can help to explain why what you're hearing isn't matching up with reality.

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    1. Re:Reason for overly sunny info by interiot · · Score: 2
      Also the job market tends to lag behind the economy a bit.

      People who are currently employed are feeling secure enough in their current position to start spending more, so that's helping to speed the economy up. But companies 1) don't need to start hiring more employees because they can just make the current ones work harder, and 2) hiring someone is a longer-term commitment, and it's not necessarily clear yet that the economy has picked up for good.

    2. Re:Reason for overly sunny info by C_nemo · · Score: 1

      "2) hiring someone is a longer-term commitment, and it's not necessarily clear yet that the economy has picked up for good."

      shit, what world/drug are you on?

    3. Re:Reason for overly sunny info by moeller · · Score: 1

      " "2) hiring someone is a longer-term commitment, and it's not necessarily clear yet that the economy has picked up for good."

      shit, what world/drug are you on?"

      Exactly what don't you understand about what he said? If it's about the uncertainty regarding whether the economy has any more shoes to drop, you are not a very good student of economic history. Many recessions have a mild initial dip, such as this one, then recover a bit as inventory is depleted and manufacturing starts, and then demand falls out and the real recession begins. Most of the time few people had a clue that a "double dip" would happen, and many at the point of recovery from the first dip predicted that there would be no more economic trouble for a while.

      Read up before you lash out.

    4. Re:Reason for overly sunny info by C_nemo · · Score: 1

      ok, i wasn't clear enough.

      hiring someone is along term comitment? it seems that managment doesn't care about long term commitment when buissens is bad.

      and yes, im not a good student of economic history, im a good student of engieneering :)

    5. Re:Reason for overly sunny info by Beliskner · · Score: 2
      ? If it's about the uncertainty regarding whether the economy has any more shoes to drop, you are not a very good student of economic history. Many recessions have a mild initial dip, such as this one, then recover a bit as inventory is depleted and manufacturing starts, and then demand falls out and the real recession begins. Most of the time few people had a clue that a "double dip" would happen, and many at the point of recovery from the first dip predicted that there would be no more economic trouble for a while
      That's a +5 in my book. The question is has the WTC attack induced the second dip prematurely making this the real recovery, or is the effect of WTC merely to cause a short-term artificial dip, then a short-term artificial recovery (NOW) followed by a full recession (SOON)?
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    6. Re:Reason for overly sunny info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can get more accurate estimates of profits just by reducing their estimates by 10%.

      Well duh. The whole of the economy is a zero sum game for many variables. Profits are a deviation from zero. Losses a deviation on the other direction. The most likely value for "profits/lossses" is zero, so on average reducing any profit estimate moves it closer to 0 will get you closer to the global (0) estimate.

  8. long answer...short answer... by gTsiros · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Short one: If we knew, we'd be doing it.
    Longer one:
    I can't tell you what...but you can start using your imagination trying to find something that people would use frequently.

    And now for some brainstorming:

    Whatever you do, a good marketing dpt. will make it look better. This is sad.

    Not "one" thing there is. Ok, yoda speak, but what i want to get to is that people need to fill gaps in the business...some people do this...some people do that... coding is fun , ok, but if everone only coded, it'd be dull.

    Look which /. subjects seem to get most attention. I consider these subjects "hot". Do this with various other publications, and since we all have seen how satire foresees reality, start with the onion ;)

    storm's out.

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    1. Re:long answer...short answer... by ComaVN · · Score: 2, Funny

      Look which /. subjects seem to get most attention. I consider these subjects "hot"

      DON'T!!! before you know it, you'll be pouring hot grits into your widened asshole.
      Oh he meant the articles... My bad.

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    2. Re:long answer...short answer... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* Look which /. subjects seem to get most attention. I consider these subjects "hot". *)

      "The most attention" often seems to go to what is the most controversial or bashes Microsoft (which they probably deserve).

      BTW, I see a huuuuge gap in remote GUI's over HTTP technology (see Andreeson browser interview topic messages), but nobody seems to care. Businesses keep trying to make HTTP browsers act like VB/Delphi GUI's for biz forms, but the existing standards suck at it.

      Why is it that I see a giant market for such and nobody else does? Is it because their DOM+JavaScript skills are hard-won and they don't want to start over? I am missing something?

      The remote-GUI issue could serve as a case study for what takes off and what doesn't.

      (Sorry to keep bringing up this subject, but it both fascinates and frustrates me.)

    3. Re:long answer...short answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) Mid-90s Java Applet craze
      2) MS ASP.NET, which could be upgraded to generate simple .NET applets.

    4. Re:long answer...short answer... by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2

      Look which /. subjects seem to get most attention.

      OK, so now I just need to find a job involving hot grits in my pants, goatse.cx, and Natalie Portman. Check

  9. Support! by NullStream · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are always open and varried opportunities in the ever strong field of technical support!

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    1. Re:Support! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a bunch of BS. I've been out for almost 7 months now!

    2. Re:Support! by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

      funny thing is that I was told to go into "help desk" positions by my "counselor" for the states vocational rehab (i'm disabled, bi-polar type I)

      The lady also said that certification is the best way to go!

      Afterward of course I came home throwing shit and yelling "dumb whore!"

      I tried to tell her in the office to visit ask.slashdot.org but she won't listen.

  10. Try the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'm hearing good things about the Web-net Intersites.

  11. Huh ? by doru · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's Thursday, already ?!

  12. Um... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

    Maybe you'd be better off doing what you like, and quit chasing buzzwords.

  13. You won't hear it much on Slashdot by RTFA+Man · · Score: 0, Troll

    but any time you spend learning Microsoft stuff (.net framework, mcse, c#, etc.) will repay itself a thousand times over.

  14. Just like the economy? by ComaVN · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have heard the economy is starting to pick up again for months, yet no real signs of improvements show up. Probably the same for the job market for some time.

    My advice: lay back, have a beer, meet new people and do interesting things with them, and when cash runs out go flip some burgers or something. In a few years time, when things look better, they'll come running for you again.

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    1. Re:Just like the economy? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 1

      Talk of the tech sector being on the upswing is so much B.S. Don't believe the hype. The entire economy will continue to fall as more and more companies go belly up, or lay people off to stay afloat. This isn't just a recession, it's a depression. If you have a job, you are doing better than a lot of techies.

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    2. Re:Just like the economy? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* Talk of the tech sector being on the upswing is so much B.S. Don't believe the hype. *)

      That is not what I hear. I am hearing that the *overall* economy is improving.

      However, tech itself is still slow, and so is hiring in general. Hiring is traditionally the last to pick up, according to many analysts.

      The problem is that consumer spending is starting to slow, and it was just about the only thing preventing a much bigger slide. If other parts don't start to pick up soon, then everything may slide down together again.

      Lowering interest rates can't work any further. The only trick left in the Fed's bag is defecit spending.

      If a re-slide happens, time to practice:

      "Do you want fries with that?"

    3. Re:Just like the economy? by xtremex · · Score: 2

      Flip burgers? Not everyone here is 22 and lives at home. Some have a MORTGAGE to pay. Some have a child to feed.And have you tried getting a job flipping burgers? They won't hire an educated 32 year old. Plus, BK wont pay my mortgae..answer that one.

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    4. Re:Just like the economy? by Beliskner · · Score: 2
      The entire economy will continue to fall as more and more companies go belly up, or lay people off to stay afloat. This isn't just a recession, it's a depression
      Dude, sounds like you're talking more about yourself than about the economy. Take some Prozac (don't worry everyone does, especially nowadays).

      Recessions usually last about 6 years, we've only had it for 2. When the STUPID Merrill Lynch and friends illiterate "Analysts" find that they've been talking up the economy because everyone *wants* a recovery, and that things have been a little buoyant recently because they were banking on a recovery, they're gonna get screwed for 4 years. Now the Japanese economy, now that's different, or perhaps the US is also suffering from this baby boomer effect, hmmmm.

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    5. Re:Just like the economy? by ComaVN · · Score: 1

      What I meant is that it's ok to take a step back, and accept a job that is maybe a little less interesting (technically and financially.)

      Also, I'm thinking about people less than 30 years old. I don't know how things are outside The Netherlands, but here a halfway decent developer/technician with 10 years of experience is not going to have trouble finding a new job.

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  15. Biotech is the future. by User+956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just look at the stock market. Biotech is the future, my friend. In the new annual ranking of the Nasdaq 100 index--made up of the 100 largest nonfinancial companies ranked by market capitalization--seven of the 13 companies added were in biotech. The new entrants include such familiar names as ImClone Systems (IMCL ), Cephalon (CEPH ), Sepracor (SEPR ), and Invitrogen (IVGN ); they replace 13 faltering tech, telecom, and Internet outfits, including onetime stars CMGI (CMGI ), 3Com (COMS ), and Palm (PALM ). All told, biotech companies now represent 12.7% of the market capitalization of all the companies in the index, nearly triple the share they held only two years ago.

    Sounds an awful lot like the Internet bubble all over again, I know. And in one sense, it is: The high market capitalization of many of these stocks suggests that investors are paying a lot in anticipation of future earnings that may never materialize. It costs tens of millions of dollars and can take five to 15 years to get a drug from the test tube to the clinic--and many drugs simply don't make it.

    In several ways, however, this boom is different. The industry is more mature than it was a decade ago, when it last rose and fell. New alliances, new products, and new financing should combine to produce lasting growth in this once-turbulent field. There are some 300 biotech products in Phase III testing, the final stage of human experimentation before seeking Food & Drug Administration approval. The FDA issued 32 approvals for biotech drugs in 2000, a 45% increase over 1999. Sales of biotech products rose from $16.1 billion in 1999 to $18.1 billion in 2000, an increase of 12%. And there were 22 profitable biotechs in 1999, up from 17 in 1997. In addition, there is a distinct lack of bearded linux hippies in biotech, making it a much more attractive market segment to the general public.

    Furthermore, unlike many Internet companies, the biotech companies are targeting clear and existing markets. Many Internet companies devised products without knowing whether there were markets for them. Others, such as Yahoo!, aimed for ad revenues that proved far smaller than hoped. Biotech companies don't have that problem: A drug for arthritis or cancer, say, has a huge market. If their drugs work, the biotechs will make money.

    Excitement in biotech will likely get another boost when the climate for initial public offerings improves. There are 50-100 biotech companies waiting to go public, says Oronsky. That's where casual investors should be especially careful. Some of today's most promising biotechs will undoubtedly fall short of the hype. Unfortunately, that's one way this boom won't differ much from the last.

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    The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
    1. Re:Biotech is the future. by RevRigel · · Score: 2

      Of course, the CEO of first company you listed, ImClone systems, was just arrested and charged with insider trading for notifying his friends (including Martha Stuart) and family that the company's cancer drug wasn't going to be approved prior to the information becoming public, enabling them to sell off the still-valuable stock.

    2. Re:Biotech is the future. by evilquaker · · Score: 1
      Sounds an awful lot like the Internet bubble all over again, I know.

      Actually, like the Internet bubble, the biotech bubble (Dec. 2000 - Apr. 2001) already burst. There are a large number of biotechs (including LION and Incyte) whose market cap is less than their current cash.

      In addition, there is a distinct lack of bearded linux hippies in biotech, making it a much more attractive market segment to the general public.

      This is not true at all. Bioinformatics needs large amounts of computational power, and Linux clusters are perfect for this task. The biotech company I work for uses Linux extensively, and we're porting all of our proprietary tools to Linux (most of them already run under multiple unices anyway...). The microarray lab I was visiting on Friday also use Linux extensively. They're using a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) system to pool information between labs with a flexibility that simply isn't available in the commercial offerings (a similar but less flexible commercial system runs $20,000).

      --
      To within half a percent, pi seconds is a nanocentury. -- Tom Duff
    3. Re:Biotech is the future. by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      A side effect(so to speak) of Biotech field is the pharmaceutical industry. I just started work with Express Scripts this month, and I love the people, the pay, and the work environment. I'm part of the new and growing second shift data entry crew, but I'm sure that they could use coders as well. They're really growing. Everyone needs their prescriptions filled, especially with the country getting older, and ES is(according to them) providing one out of every six Americans with their prescriptions.

      No, they didn't ask me to say this; I'm off on Fridays and Saturdays.

      --
      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
    4. Re:Biotech is the future. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    5. Re:Biotech is the future. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a side note, I have observed more and more prescription drug ads on television these days. Many of these drugs "treat" so called mental problems that did not exist a few decades back. In fact, it would appear that many of these pharmaceutical companies are medicalizing most normal symptoms people have, like minor depression, sleep and stress issues, just to sell their product. The marketing of unneeded medical drugs and associated goods may create more problems (dependencies, additions) than solve them. While this is not a new thing, it's definitely still up there in the shady factor. Seems that the Feds will allow just about anything to boost up spending and consumerism.

    6. Re:Biotech is the future. by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, but that doesn't apply to my new job. I'm processing forms for free drugs for low income patients with serious ailments, like diabetes, or Hepatitis C. I'd say that this makes for above average job satisfaction.

      --
      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
    7. Re:Biotech is the future. by thenoog · · Score: 1

      Never trust anyone who calls you "my friend" without knowing you.

      --
      - In a knowledge based industry your main asset will always be people -
  16. technology or sectors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    don't know what sectors I would chase... I
    honestly doubt if I would chase sectors at all.

    as for technologies, as trite as it might sound the two to pursue are probably the same damned ones people have been tyalking about for the last five years, Java and XML. both are only going to become more ingrained and widespread as companies in all industries continue to pull their various services and offerings together.

    -rt

    1. Re:technology or sectors? by BeerGood · · Score: 2, Informative

      I started working in military technologie a month before Sept. Needly to say my career as IT programmer in this area has surged.

  17. web services by bilbobuggins · · Score: 3, Interesting
    web services.

    i know it sounds like a trendy buzz-word but i think it's here to stay and some seriously cool stuff will start to happen soon (look at Google).
    at any rate, if you can walk into a potential employer and say 'I can convert your current software into a remote API for access by your clients in a multitude of languages' I think you have a pretty good shot at a job. at least, this is what I would be trying to learn if I had time.

    Oh, and being able to throw around 'SOAP' and '.NET' a lot doesn't hurt too much either ;)

    1. Re:web services by tzanger · · Score: 4, Informative

      i know it sounds like a trendy buzz-word but i think it's here to stay and some seriously cool stuff will start to happen soon (look at Google).

      The web is dead.

      I didn't create this tech but I am using it to replace shitty HTML+Jscript+prayers+sacrifices web-based interfaces. There are some other guys like XWT too but XWT is simple, straightfoward and fast. It essentially projects UIs -- do you forms locally (on the client machines) but all your business logic sits on a server where it belongs. Talkes XML-RPC and SOAP. Very cool. Way way way better than what I would call traditional "web services."

    2. Re:web services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So...basically, X11 only not?

    3. Re:web services by SerpentMage · · Score: 2

      I honestly think Web Service is not going to get anywhere. Not that I do not support Web Services. I like Web Services and have been using them for several years (really).

      But I am getting the feeling Web Services is technology that is nice to have but not necessary (at the moment). People are fighting other battles.

      I honestly think the IT industry is going to go back to "traditional" programming and skip the other stuff. It seems to me that IT is in a contraction phase. And that is resulting that software is going to be moved to Java and the .NET runtime. Or more generally put, the era of runtimes since we seem to have CPU cycles to waste. This is not exciting stuff, but something that will take at least 10 years to complete. And during this phase to "runtimes" things like distributed processing (a'la BeoWolf) will become mainstream.

      After that who knows? But definitely software is entering a boring phase. So if you want excitement go west young man, go west!

      --

      "You can't make a race horse of a pig"
      "No," said Samuel, "but you can make very fast pig"
    4. Re:web services by adam_megacz · · Score: 2

      [Disclosure: I wrote XWT]

      X11 and XWT do different things. The essential differences are:

      • XWT doesn't require you to download/install an X server. The client side is packaged as an ActiveX control for Windows users and a Java Applet for everybody else. The native code Linux/Solaris client is in beta testing.
      • XWT actually transmits the widget behaviors to the client. This means that scrolling a scrollbar, clicking a checkbox, or pulling down a menu happens entirely on the client side. The upshot is that you can actually use XWT across the public internet (even dialup!) without painful lag, unlike X11, which was designed for LANs.
    5. Re:web services by Antos700 · · Score: 1

      It's a nice idea in theory, but when I went to have a play with it (using XP & IE) it kept whinging about not being able to make any sort of socket connection. Is this just being slashdotted, or the 'standard' a bit of a bandwidth hog?

    6. Re:web services by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And this is better than terminal services and citrix how? Oh, yea, bummer it doesn't use a standard port and is blocked by my firewall... even when I've already got holes for term svcs.

      It's a cute try, but I don't see it catching on. IMHO

    7. Re:web services by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Remote GUI's need these features IMO:

      1. Latency Friendly - Does not require sub-second response time to act "normal". This generally means that textboxes, scrollbars, etc. are managed by the local GUI browser and not the server. XWindows and Citrix-like approaches generally faulter here because they send each and every pixel change. The protocol needs to be at the widget level and not the pixel level (accept as an option perhaps).

      2. Can run over HTTP - Firewalls and other issues make using something other than HTTP a pain in the wazoo.

      3. No app-specific client-side scripting or executable downloading - A Turing-complete language creates too many upgrade and security problems, plus makes it easier to steel business logic.

      4. Delta-based updates. Unlike HTML browsers, one should not have to redraw or resend entire screens just to change one small part.

      5. Open standard

      6. Simple

      (BTW, I am the author of the SCGUI draft standard, a competitor to XWT, although I respect XWT. Number 3 is probably where we differ the most.)

    8. Re:web services by adam_megacz · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the bug report. Could you email me your log file so I can figure out what happened?

      If you're using IE+Windows, your log file is called 'xwt-log.txt'; search your hard drive for it (including system folders on XP). If you're using any other browser/OS, your log file is on the java console; please cut and paste it into an email to adam at xwt dot org.

  18. Whats Hot by thomas57 · · Score: 1

    I've found that small company's are usually looking for some technology. It's worked great for me. I've been able to outsource graphics to people I know that are looking for jobs, and there is always a ton of programming to do. You just have to create a position for yourself when you step in the door.

  19. Novely Websites, The Trend of the FUTURE.... by donnacha · · Score: 4, Funny


    IsMyJobHotorNot.com

    1. Re:Novely Websites, The Trend of the FUTURE.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Job would be referring to employment, right?? ;-)

  20. Bioinformatics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Using IT to crunch the genome, protiens, protien-folding, creating treaments by targeting specific molecular recpetor sites, etc. Definitely the next hot area and mostly wide-open from an IT perspective.

    1. Re:Bioinformatics by littleRedFriend · · Score: 1

      Ofcourse, in order to make a good impression on your new boss, you should know how to spell the word protein first.

      I know, it is very difficult to do all the stuff above, without having a basic background in biology. There is always a need for sys admins, though. Many of these biotech have complicated heterogeneous computing facilities, which can be fun/challenging to manage.

      --
      IANAL, but imagine a beowulf cluster of in Soviet Russia all your belong are base to us welcoming the new SCO overlords.
  21. One word by mfos.org · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Security, this is the big one now

    1. Re:One word by Telastyn · · Score: 2

      *bump*

      I for one work in the computer security industry, and we (largely) did not feel much ill-effects from the .com problems (perhaps also because we're not a .com). Security is still high on everyone's minds after the Mafiaboy escapades and to PHB's 9/11. The industry is changing from anti-virus crap and dumb firewalls to things that actually provide security, and there's tons of cash to be made doing so.

  22. I'm impressed with Envivio. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    I'm impressed with Envivio's business, more capable MPEG-4 software. (No, I don't work for them.)

  23. Easy come, easy go by ipxodi · · Score: 1

    New technologies, languages, platforms, etc will come and go over the course of your career, but there will ALWAYS be a need for the Network and PC Administrators.
    I'm a Network Administrator and haven't had a problem finding a job in the last 10 years. I was laid off in late 2000, and found a new job within 3 weeks.
    Just get a well rounded understanding of Windows, Linux, Telecommunications, security, etc., and you'll probably always be able to get a job. You probably won't be making a 6 figure salary, but I'm more than comfortable making less than that.

    --
    load "windows7" ,8,1
  24. Biotech? by cr0sh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This may be the next big thing, but right now most of what the usual geek could get into seems mostly hype. What I am talking about is the field of Bioinformatics. From what I understand, Bioinformatics is basically "data mining of biotech databases" - more or less. I know there are a few books available on the subject (including one by Oreilly). The main problems with "breaking into the scene" is most positions, when offered, require you to have some kind of science degree (biology related, generally) - even though it is just data-mining. I tend to wonder if it is because you really have to know the terminology behind the data you are looking through (maybe), or if it is just such a young field that the employers thinks they need such people right now.

    It is something I would like to get into: I live in Phoenix, and the city is trying to get something going here called the "International Genomics Commission" (IGC - the "C" part I am hazy on) - basically a huge research lab for biotech, etc - so far, it is seemingly being sucessful. Anyhow, I haven't got a chance in hell of possibly getting onboard "early", so to speak, because not only do I not have a degree in any bio science area, but I don't have a degree at all (ok, I take that back, I do have an Associates, but from a tech school - read: Near Worthless). All I do have is 10+ years of professional experience in software development and database applications - but I am not sure that will count for much, at least at this point in time.

    Another area to consider: Alternative Energy Research - I am not talking solar, etc - but more on funky engine and prime mover designs, etc - I am seeing more of this stuff crop up all over the place.

    --
    Reason is the Path to God - Anon
    1. Re:Biotech? by Lictor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As someone working in Bioinformatics, here are a couple of quick opinions on your post:

      Bioinformatics is *NOT* "just data-mining". Certainly, data-mining of genetic information is one aspect, but its far from being the whole field. There are lots of really interesting problems besides just "how do we deal with this huge genome..." Protien secondary structure prediction, tertiary structure prediction, computational pharmacokinetics (and biomolecule docking problems) etc... there is just *so* much more to the field than data mining.

      The other thing is that this is only going to be "hot" for a limited amount of time. Bioinformatics is here to stay, but right now its on a huge trendy upswing. Drug companies are throwing millions of dollars at it in hopes of developing an 'in silico' drug testing lab... sooner or later they are going to realize that there is still a LOT of basic science that needs to be done before this happens. People working in bioinfo in industy are getting some pretty ludicrous salaries these days (yes I'm jealous... I'm in academia), but it ain't gonna last. Like any other flavour of the week there will be a huge bursting of the bubble, followed by a nice levelling off.

      If bioinformatics *interests* you, then I would highly recommend pursuing it. Its a very rewarding area, and it offers you the opportunity to work with people from many different disciplines. But if you are on the "Bioinformatics == $$" bandwagon... you're going to end up dissapointed.

    2. Re:Biotech? by pmineiro · · Score: 1

      my feeling about bioinformatics scene (yes, i'm in it, currently employed, and making hiring decisions) is it's not so rosy.

      very large bioinformatics firms, e.g. doubletwist, have folded. other leaders in bioinformatics such as celera are getting out of the game and laying off informaticians. it all adds up to alot of extra resumes.

      it should swing back, eventually, but characterizing it as "hot" right now is a disservice. at my company, most of our new hires will be in assay development, analytical and synthetic chemistry, and protein biochemistry. we are not atypical.

      as for the qualifications ... well ... i look for people who know decision theory, hidden markov models, and monte carlo methods. these tools are also useful for "data mining" in other fields with series data, e.g., financial analysis or image analysis, so learning them is likely to broaden your horizons.

      -- p

    3. Re:Biotech? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      From what I understand, Bioinformatics is basically "data mining of biotech databases" - more or less.

      Not quite. That is a part of it, but there is more to it than that. For example, an experimental technique called microarray analysis was developed in 1998 for finding expression profiles for thousands of genes at once. Companies manufacture "chips" with thousands of spots on them, and each spot has a specific piece of probe DNA on it, chemically bound to the chip substrate. You take a biological sample with unknown mRNA, attach a dye to the mRNA, and expose the chip to your sample. The unknown dyed mRNA hybridizes only to the specific probe sequence that one spot on the chip has. You then rinse the chip, put it in a fluorescence scanner, and whammo, you know the intensity of mRNA concentration (i.e. the level of gene expression) in your sample for thousands of genes in the genome. Just doing this for one or two genes used to be a lot of work. Repeat this procedure with a bunch of chips (mitosis phase, day of treatment, patient, etc.) and you have an immense pile of expression profile data to sift through! But somewhere buried in there may be a good lead for a drug target that can be teased out with the right statistical algorithm. So a niche market exists for good gene expression analysis software, which is what my company makes. There exist only a few customers for software like this, but they're all biotech and pharmaceutical companies (and some universities) for whom the cost of the software is trivial. We have a large market share built up by word-of-mouth. So life is pretty good right now for us.

      Bioinformatics doesn't automatically mean easy money. The field has already seen companies fail (e.g. DoubleTwist). And it seems like everyone and his brother is trying to form a dot-com style bioinformatics startup. I personally know two guys who are busy launching startups that are bound to fail. The time to start a bioinformatics startup was 1998-1999 during the dot-com boom. Now it's too late. Being in a trendy field won't save you if you have no product to sell.

      I know there are a few books available on the subject (including one by Oreilly).

      The O'Reilly book has some good information, but keep in mind it is mostly targeted toward the biotech researcher (the end-user) and not the programmer who is developing tools for biologists to use. It tells you how to use the software that's already out there. They have a Perl book out too, again targeted at biologists. There is a lot of string manipulation in bioinformatics. But there is also a lot of numerical analysis which is not exactly Perl's strong suit. In theory, a biologist who understands statistics well and knows how to do his own ANOVAs and clustering can probably do everything he needs to do with Perl and Excel. Thankfully for us, most of the people with expression data to analyze are not quite as industrious as that. :)

      The main problems with "breaking into the scene" is most positions, when offered, require you to have some kind of science degree (biology related, generally) - even though it is just data-mining.

      First of all, like I said, it usually isn't just blind data-mining, there is also some intense numerical analysis. Second, if they've got a clueless HR dept. who demands that programmers have some sort of bio degree, they're completely Dilberted and going under soon anyway so it's no big loss to you. A general biology background is easy to pick up. If you skim through a college-level textbook and learn how DNA/RNA works, what open reading frames, promoters, and introns are, you're basically all set as far as that stuff is concerned. You'll still need to learn about how to interact with the messy public databases out there (GenBank, Homologene, UniGene, LocusLink, Gene Ontology, etc.) that suffer from missing or incomplete data and/or non-unique identifers. You also have to cope with the lack of data format standardization in the industry and the proliferation of oddball formats to be parsed. Familiarity with all that stuff is much more important, and a biology degree doesn't help you much with it. And good programmers are way too rare for us to be picky about who's got a bio degree. Of the programmers here, not a single one is a biologist (actually, all the programmers here have physics and EE backgrounds). If you interview here we won't even talk to you about biology. We ask people simple programming questions, like how to raise two to a small integer power (to generate a bit mask, for example). You'd be amazed at how many people immediately convert the 2 to floating point and call pow().

  25. Advice by ryepup · · Score: 1

    Do what you want. What are you interested in? You don't want to wind up in a job you hate.
    Use the time to get an in-depth understanding and knowledge of whatever the hell you want. If you get good enough at it, you'll be hired for that, and you'll enjoy it a lot more than if you become the equivalent of a Y2K bug programmer.

  26. pump your buzz words into a job site by ScrewTivo · · Score: 1

    and see what gets the hits.

    1. Re:pump your buzz words into a job site by Tablizer · · Score: 2


      Hmmmm. Lets see.

      "XML Biometrics Security Web Services Downsizing Specialist"

  27. Defense is way up by lingqi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Try Northrop Grumman / Lockeed Martin / Boeing, etc

    as for the pure, pure computer area -- i think people are returning to the "core business". (chip wise)

    LCD is another area;

    wireless is picking up a little steam (look at how many DSL routers there are!), as well as other marginal stuff -- HDTV, PDA, etc...

    cellphone and pda integration is considered to be inevitable by some -- so cellphones are not "flatlining", they are just not exploding as they were before.

    at the same time digital imaging (cameras / miniDV camcorders) are sparking a huge thing within flash market -- look how the size have doubled time and again: imagine how much $$ of R&D / engineering went into that

    home entertainment (xbox / ps2 / cube) is also kinda hot -- sony expect to sell a LOT of ps2s by christmas -- and ppl are gearing up for that too.

    there are a couple more -- can't think of them off the top my head though

    --

    My life in the land of the rising sun.

    1. Re:Defense is way up by jstott · · Score: 1
      LCD is another area;

      I did my doctoral dissertation in liquid crytal physics, so I got to know something about the field. LCD's are pretty much commodity items. The technology is sufficiently old that the core patents are starting to expire, but because twisted nematic displays are so damn cheap to make, nothing else has been able to displace them. Most of the engineering is just incremental improvements to the manufacturing process to allow for the manufacture of large displays while keeping manufacturing defects (a perenial plague) to a minimum. Finally, 99% of the displays are made by Japanese companies, who do not like to hire non-Japanese citizens.

      In sort, don't bother with LCD's.

      -JS

      --
      Vanity of vanities, all is vanity...
  28. Like in The Graduate, but different. by vegetablespork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One word: forensics. Between Enronesque corporate investigations, the kiddie porn scares, and the emphasis on "cyber security," there's lots of opportunity there. But don't do it unless you have the stomach to be the guy that helps put some teenager playing with a website in prison, because at the end of the day, that's what the computer crime "units" seem to enjoy most.

    --

    Call (206) 338-5780 COLLECT for information about a genuine BA, BS, MA, MS, MBA, or Ph.D.

  29. Small Business by peterdaly · · Score: 3, Informative

    I would argue small business, based on what I have seeing. Big business has jumpe on the e-commerce bandwagon, but for the most part small busniesses have not yet really touched its potential.

    I am not in the consulting industry, but I believe there is quite a lot of business to be had by aproaching the right small companies with the right plans. If I were "leisured" at the moment, which I am not, in addition to looking for a real job, I would aproach some small businesses in my area with "solutions" to get started in e-commerce, or e-customer service. My mechanic, who can barely use a mouse has just setup a site, and plans to offer information about his high quality used car inventory. If you had a simple turnkey site for a market like that, there is a decent living to be had. Now kep in mind, you probably cannot charge the $95 an hour you used to get. However, there are many low end turn key systems to be sold. 40 dealers/mechanics at $1000 a site would be the equivilent of an entry to mid level programmer in my market. How many small mechanics, or used car dealers are there in your area? Used cars are just an example, I am sure you can come up with more on your own. It helps if you have an "in" with at least one business of the type you intend to go after to get your foot in the door.

    Anyway, if I had a few weeks ahead of me where my employment was uncertain, I'd identify a market like that, and go after it. This is also a market where open source can be used to your advantage if you approach the situation correctly.

    Hope I have gotten some thoughts going,

    -Pete

    1. Re:Small Business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A) You need comprehensive knowledge of the market you are targeting to design the thing. So you can't just pick random market like 'used cars' -- you need to draw on your own or someone else's experience.

      B) Odd are somebody had the same idea as you 10 years ago, and you need to compete with him. His codebase is something like XBase, SCO UNIX, or Access, it is finished and it costs very little to maintain. You on the other hand have to capitalize your project, and may find that new tech is not a selling point (cost of new PCs might price you out of the market).

      Other than that, it's a good idea. There's lots of small time guys out there making money peddling very narrowly vertical apps.

  30. Re:.NET === XML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well .NET is built upon XML so if you really want to leverage that bubble I would start with it first. Basically XML provides a "standard" way to describe "hyper" data, similar to the way HTML provides a "standard" way to define hyperlinked documents. It's very useful and is bound to grow in significance over the next few years(like it's not already). Before you know it you will be sending XML keys from your PDA to your car to ask it to run the config for you vs. your SO. By the time you open the door, the car will be running, environmental controls will be adjusting to your desired settings and your favorite tunes will cue up just in time! Your car will respond with an XML health diagnostic and some notes left from SO about the burger wrappers in the rear seat ...

  31. My recommendations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    you should try to get a job that:

    1. pays an awful lot
    2. requires very little work
    3. keeps you knee deep in pussy every day
    4. bestows rock star status upon you
    5. has a lot of perks (private jet, skybox, etc.)
    6. 100% job security
    7. three words: corporate blowjob girl
    8. involves Linux
    1. Re:My recommendations by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 1

      HEY!
      There aren't any openings. That's MY job!

      Larry Ellison
      Oracle

    2. Re:My recommendations by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      Found it, broke it, broke into it. :oP

    3. Re:My recommendations by mickwd · · Score: 2

      HEY!

      If you're Larry Ellison, you're one big opening.....

    4. Re:My recommendations by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 1

      MOD this man up! some more!

      I couldn't have said better myself!
      :-)

  32. Web services. by case_igl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see lots of growth in Web services and entertainment. There are lots of companies transitioning to membership based models now, and that generates a lot of work to build those subscription systems and management tools.

    I just hired four new developers at my company, so I will give you some pointers for actually getting in the door once you have found a company to interview for:

    #1 - Accept the fact you'll most likely make less money than your last position. Times have changed in most markets. I hired for four positions and had 150 resumes (not counting the throw them in the trash right away kind). Lots of people I interviewed were looking for salaries that were gone with the 1999 dot com frenzy. Don't mentioned your MBA or Masters in CompSci fifty times, either.

    #2 - Don't accept less money than you're worth. With #1 being said, don't short sell yourself either. Companies are getting away with murder when they hire right now because the market is so bad for those out of work. You want to come across as someone who is WORTH every penny you ask for. How to do this? Focus on things at your previous jobs that increased efficiency or saved your company money. As an example, someone I hired told me about how they cut their company's bandwidth costs by 30% by installing a proxy that used mod_gzip on everything going out. Companies will pay for people who will not only save them money, but FIND them ways to save even more money.

    #3 - Be assertive, but not forceful. People who call me every two days to follow-up annoy the heck out of me. It sends a signal that you're desparate and don't have other options. Definately send an E-mail thanking the person for an interview with a couple BRIEF thoughts. If you call back more than once and don't hear back, don't waste your time chasing the job.

    #4 - Focus on MY needs, not yours. I don't want to hear about how you are really heavily involved in open source, or have this web site you help maintain on the side that gets uber traffic. Things like that spell distraction to me. Review the Web site or product catalog of the company you are going to interview for. Do a Google search and read recent press on the company. Try to get an idea of what challenges the company is facing and apply your past project experience directly to that.

    #5 - Dress and act appropriately. Don't show up in a suit unless it's an executive position and you're in an area of the country that requires it. Being overdressed makes you look out of place, and tells me you haven't been in circulation or interviewed much. Comb your hair, take out those nose rings (unless you're a graphics person, haha), and ask questions. If you don't understand something you're asked, say so. Nothing is worse than watching someone try to fake their way through an answer.

    #6 - Base the business on the numbers and the market, not the Herman Miller chairs. Our office isn't super deluxe. It's pretty spartan, just a couple floors of cubes and Costco desks, tables, etc. But we're profitable for over a year, have over three million users, have positive growth, and have been in business on the net for over six years. You won't find a good job that will last if a company spends more on their office than their payroll.

    #7 - Avoid the startup...This one is more of my personal experience, but most people I know are sick of hearing about startups. Hearing someone works at a startup in most cases sends up warning signs. You're better off working for a smaller, established company that is challenged by it's growth and needs quality people. You'll learn a lot more when you don't have to worry if your paycheck will be coming next month.

    Just some thoughts from the front lines of a smallish Internet company in Seattle...Hope this helps!

    Case

    1. Re:Web services. by rkent · · Score: 2

      Okay, I'm going to blow my mod priviledges in this thread to ask you a followup question:

      #1 - Accept the fact you'll most likely make less money than your last position.

      #2 - Don't accept less money than you're worth. With #1 being said, don't short sell yourself either.


      How do we, as developers, get a good hold on this? Should we put any stock at all in those online "salary comparisons" that say a person with job X in market Y makes $Z?

      Part of my problem is that I'm relocating to a new market with a significantly higher cost of living than my old place. So I don't know if I should be asking for about the SAME as my last position, figuring that the market difference will make that "lower," or go even LOWER than my old salary and live like a peon.

      That, and how does the salary requirement influence you? Do you require it on resumes/monster searches, and just toss out the ones that have unreal demands? Personally, I'd rather just interview and then discuss what a reasonable salary would be if it seems like a good fit.

    2. Re:Web services. by yog · · Score: 2

      I see lots of growth in Web services and entertainment.

      Thanks for your thoughtful posting. I'm curious whether you mean you are seeing lots of growth now, or you simply mean you are predicting growth. I have not seen much growth yet. Of course, it depends how you define web services, but I'm talking about opening up a company's data to its customers via services written using serverside J2EE or .NET.

      There's certainly a lot of interest in web services, and some very large companies are promoting it as the next big thing, but I wonder how much of that interest has been realized in terms of broad based investments by customers. According to the Gartner Group, by the year 2004 Web services will be the primary method of delivering corporate software solutions. That's a pretty bold statement.

      Regarding your job interview advice, your advice is pretty sound, except:
      #5 - ...Don't show up in a suit unless it's an executive position

      That's possibly true in certain places but it's a very bad rule of thumb. Better to always wear your best suit. Do you really want to work at a place where people look down on you for being well dressed? How silly.

      #6 - Base the business on the numbers and the market, not the Herman Miller chairs

      You don't always know where the furniture came from; my brother's medical clinic has these $5000 leather sofas that he got for like $300 each--slight damage in delivery or some such, and he's got an eye for bargains. Personally I'd be put off if they didn't have decent ergonomic chairs and keyboard holders; it's such a good investment. I might still take the job and then lobby for (or just bring in my own) better equipment, but nonetheless it's not a good sign.

      #7 - Avoid the startup

      Well if we all did this, what a boring world it would be. Startups are a great opportunity to learn all about business, which the typical tech person doesn't necessarily get working at a larger company. Plus, you get to do more stuff, e.g. if you're a database programmer you might also be involved in installing and admin'ing the databases until the company got big enough to hire a dba. It's all in what the individual is seeking, and the original question was about trends to jump on, not how to find a stable boring position.

      -Terry

      --
      it's = "it is"; its = possessive. E.g., it's flapping its wings.
    3. Re:Web services. by case_igl · · Score: 2
      How do we, as developers, get a good hold on this? Should we put any stock at all in those online "salary comparisons" that say a person with job X in market Y makes $Z?

      Salary comparisons online lag pretty far behind the real job market. The data they are using is always at least six months old, and I'm sure many of the online sites are using data older than that.

      A better source would be cost of living comparisons between cities. That will give you a starting point. I relocated from the East coast 3.5 years ago to Seattle, and that's what I did.

      Part of my problem is that I'm relocating to a new market with a significantly higher cost of living than my old place. So I don't know if I should be asking for about the SAME as my last position, figuring that the market difference will make that "lower," or go even LOWER than my old salary and live like a peon.

      The employer lives there, and they know what it costs to live there. So don't feel bad about asking for more than you "feel" worth in a market like that. Just make sure it's in live with how much you were making over the cost of living at your old position.

      That, and how does the salary requirement influence you? Do you require it on resumes/monster searches, and just toss out the ones that have unreal demands? Personally, I'd rather just interview and then discuss what a reasonable salary would be if it seems like a good fit.

      I've asked people to submit salary requirements with resumes, but honestly less than 5% of people are willing to do that. Usually the last couple questions in an interview I ask to get a handle on a "range" that someone would be comfortable with. If someone says their low end is, say, 90K and they have only a year or two of experience, that's a pretty good indicator it's a waste of my time (when hiring entry level positions, especially).

      I think it's important people be honest about their expectations. You don't want to waste your time if you can't make $x, but you aren't qualified for $y. So say you'd like to make between $x and $y and then you'll arrive at $z.

      Again, I'm not suggestion you shouldn't earn enough to feel happy and comfortable. I'm saying that to get that kind of salary in this job market, you need to sell yourself well.

      A good tactic is to ask for a real world problem they are facing right now, and give them your 30 second "from the tip of my tongue" solution. If the person interviewing comes away from it with a couple new ideas it will help get you in the door.

      Good luck!

      Case

    4. Re:Web services. by rkent · · Score: 1

      A good tactic is to ask for a real world problem they are facing right now, and give them your 30 second "from the tip of my tongue" solution. If the person interviewing comes away from it with a couple new ideas it will help get you in the door.

      Hey, that's quite a good interview question! One of my main problems is that I can never think of any and walk away looking like a dunce.

      Thanks for your informative response...

    5. Re:Web services. by borgheron · · Score: 1

      > #1 - Accept the fact that you'll most likely make less money...
      > #2 - Don't accept less money than you're worth...

      So, from these two assertions, it sounds like you would like to have someone who only asks for *exactly* what they're worth, no more no less.

      What kind of docile person is going to do this?

      TWO WORDS: "Counter offer". If a company has neither the gumption nor the balls to make a good counter offer, it's not really worth coming to work for that company, since it would be immediately obvious that you wouldn't get much more than what you started with...

      > #3 - Be assertive, but not forceful...

      This one I understand..

      > #4 - Focus on my needs. I don't want to hear about....

      i.e. I don't want to hear that you are so into what you do that you also do it outside of work, 'cuz God knows I don't want someone who counts themselves amoungst the most talented programmers around to work for me. And, oh yeah, subjugate yourself to my will since I might ultimately be paying your paycheck... muhwwhahahahahaaaaa...

      > #5 - Dress and act appropriately. Don't show up in a suit unless...

      Bad advice. You should *ALWAYS* put your best foot forward. People remember the first impression you make on them, so it might as well be a good one. Try the suit sans the jacket. Well dressed, but not *over* dressed.

      > #6 -

      Agree

      > #7 - Avoid the startup...

      Disagree wholeheartedly. Startups are risky, but they teach a great deal about business and what it's like in the *real* world.

      Employers should also resist taking the "I've got all of the marbles and you don't" approach with prospective employees otherwise they will get what they pay for.

      GJC

      --
      Gregory Casamento
      ## Chief Maintainer for GNUstep
    6. Re:Web services. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HR folks are reveling in the current poor job market. They can stick it to the folks who a year ago were demanding about their potential job, by being picky themselves about dumb things.

      I have a nose ring, albeit a small one. I also am a brilliant coder (ask my boss), and a good people person. If you're so petty as to dismiss someone because of something as minor as a nose ring, I would rather work at WalMart than for you. At least there I'd be judged for my job performance rather than my appearance. Unless I'm working directly with clients who are conservative, a nose ring does not impact my abilities.

      Most of your pointers are good ones, but if you're not accepting of my appearance then the job isn't a good fit anyway and it's better to find that out early, like at the interview.

    7. Re:Web services. by Brento · · Score: 2

      If you're so petty as to dismiss someone because of something as minor as a nose ring, I would rather work at WalMart than for you.

      Ever seen someone at Wal-Mart with a nose ring? They have standards on everything from the length of your fingernails to no dyed neon hair. The more you deal with the public, the more stringent standards you get from your employer, especially if you're talking about a national chain like Wal-Mart.

      Stick with Starbucks. They like that alternative look.

      --
      What's your damage, Heather?
    8. Re:Web services. by flockofseagulls · · Score: 1

      #5 - ...Don't show up in a suit unless it's an executive position

      You should have some idea of appropriate dress before interviewing. Walk through the parking lot at 8:30am or 5:00pm and observe. Better yet, call or walk in and ask the receptionist what kind of clothes other candidates are wearing.

      You should always look presentable and comfortable, and maybe a little overdressed. But if the only suit you have is from your high school graduation, and you don't know how to knot a tie, don't bother wearing it--you'll look like an idiot.

      Go easy on the facial hair and hair gel, and remove any visible piercings. Avoid perfume or cologne. Be a little more conservative and a little more dressy than you would expect to be every day at that job, but don't go overboard.

      Buy a good pair of standard, classic dress shoes--nothing unusual or fancy. I want to cry when someone comes to an interview with an ill-fitting blue suit AND a scuffed old pair of brown Timberlands. That's even worse than 300-pound geeks with huge beards, hiking shorts, and Birkenstocks over colorful socks.

      Women, avoid fuck-me pumps or disco shoes, but don't look like you work at a nursing home, either. And go easy on jewelry (especially costume jewelry), scarves, purses, etc.--you don't want to look like a junior real estate agent.

    9. Re:Web services. by MxTxL · · Score: 2

      Well, maybe wal-mart is a bad example... the people they put out front with the public are decent enough, but at the 24-hr Wal-marts, the ones where they stock the shelves while there are still people in the store, at 3am I've seen some freaky ass people lugging boxes. Sure, they were wearing blue vests with smiley faces on them, but the tatoos and Rob Zombie beard don't match.

      Disney is a better example, they have standards down to what color nail polish or lipstick the girls can wear.

    10. Re:Web services. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Focus on things at your previous jobs that increased efficiency or saved your company money.

      Well, that doesn't help. I was considered a "rocket scientist" at my old job. Shown the door 'cus I was a "developer" and they felt they were fixed for the next 3-5 years.

      Can't even get an interview.

    11. Re:Web services. by Kanasta · · Score: 2

      Here's the thing I don't get. Whenever you talk to recruiters, friends, your boss and such, they always say you should always wear a suit to an interview.

      What do you mean you don't think a suit is necessary? I mean, as developers, we didn't wear suits to work, but even now, some of the others are wearing suits to work ever since the layoffs.

  33. This one's heating up real hot... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bioinformatics.

    Just north of Washington DC area there are almost 200 companies that are working in the bioinformatics area s. Subject knowledge is good of course but even better is knowledge of Perl. O'Reilly even has 2 books Beginning Perl for Bioinformatics and Developing Bioinformatics Computer Skills

    Then there are companies that are doing lots of work regarding facial recognition.

    Hope this helps.

    1. Re:This one's heating up real hot... by the+gnat · · Score: 2

      If you have a good CS degree, you can get a decent job. But the real jobs are for scientists. Even if you're not all that great a programmer, if you're a PhD you can do real "experimentation", insofar as this is possible with computers. Knowing how to investigate a problem is the real problem- how you do it is often secondary. Without real training in the life sciences (and math, and sometimes physics) you'll be lost without someone to direct you.

      Of course, there are cases where good programming skills are most important. But if you're the type who needs those O'Reilly books, I wouldn't bother. Those are great for biologists who need to pick up some bioinformatics on the side. Real computer programmers would do better to pick up a serious biochem text, and think about grad school.

    2. Re:This one's heating up real hot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is wrong from my experience and probably just purely speculative.

      You can have a honors in a biology undergrad program with plenty of perl experience and recommendations from a decent University (and med school), and they won't touch you. Most of these companies are looking for folks with at least a masters from a damn good university or a PhD. And with about 2 years of industry experience in bioinformatics, OR direct experience with their thesis that involved in computing with customized programs for analyzing the data or generating prospective avenues of research.

      You'd do better having a chem or physics PhD program (not necessarily completed, e.g. masters level plus 2 years of wet work) with some bio experience and knowledge of computers.

      This is from experience in the DC area AND a job hunt in the pharmaceutical zone just outside of Philadelphia plus some very spotty research into some of the bio companies outside the Boston region. Most of the "we're hiring" grapevine stuff I've seen is pure hype.

  34. Re:when the HELL will Slashdot use year dates? by ComaVN · · Score: 1

    You can modify the date/time format in your preferences.
    You can relax now.

    --
    Be wary of any facts that confirm your opinion.
  35. Hot sectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a 12 month veteran (tech unemployment) i'd say learn what interests you want to pursue, but keep an eye on what skills you can sell for a reasonable living.

    btw the industry had improved slightly, however we're starting to see a nose-dive again.

  36. See this slashdot story... by RyanFenton · · Score: 2


    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/27/002523 2&tid=99

    Much of the comments from that story apply here.

    :^)

    Ryan Fenton

  37. Wireless Broadband Internet by istartedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People are starving for inexpensive, easy to setup, wireless. Some day we'll be able to just slap a $20 antenna on any suburban rooftop and log onto a network. Until then, there are a lot of people looking for "solutions". Move fast if this excites you. Entrepreneurs are already moving on it.

    If this doesn't turn you on, exploit fears of terrorism. That could include surveillance, security, privacy issues, encryption... anything spook-related.

    Of course, you'll be lucky to get something you actually like in this economy.

    --
    For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
  38. Identity is Key to Web Services by elucidus · · Score: 1

    I have been following Digital Identity; Digital Identity World: Identity is Center

    They have a collection of white papers and editorials. Particularly see Why Identity Now?
    I can't guarantee it is the next big thing, but it's close enough to pay close attention.

    --
    This sig is self referential.
  39. Video Games by Screaming+Lunatic · · Score: 2

    Even though M$ is doing to well with their X-Box, video game makers are doing great. They have three new consoles to develop for. They Geforce3's are also becoming mass market. That means developers can pull off tricks with the progamable pixel pipeline that they couldn't do with the fixed function pipeline.

    1. Re:Video Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually MS isn't doing very well with the Xbox. It is selling alright in the US, but bombing in Japan and not doing all that well in Europe either. The GameCube is doing better. The PC game industry isn't that hot at the moment, but I'm sure it'll swing up again soon.

      There are a few jobs on Gamasutra if you're interested, but the game industry is the worst. There is a lot of shitty code out there that needs to be updated for the sequel or ported to another platform. Tons of it is of the type "it happens to work on this platform", rather than "this is the correct was to xxx"

      The problem being game companies are sweat shops, they hire fresh kids who are smart and work hard, but have no experience. If you can get a glorified rotating cube demo you're in, somewhere. There is always a milestone coming up that your producer wants you to excede, or will have promised too much of you and you'll have to work free overtime just to make, and then the last couple months there will be bug reports and design changes from the publisher that keep you there for far longer than a standard job.

      Game Industry: Low Pay, Long Hours, tons of crappy businessmen too crappy to work at a "real" business who will be trying very hard to get rich off of your work.

      I see 20 year olds entering it with dreams and 30 year olds exiting it, very rarely do I see a 30+ decide they want in, generally they're all too smart for that.

    2. Re:Video Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you actually worked in the industry, or are you just talking out of your ass?

  40. Start an ISP ! by derekb · · Score: 1

    That's where the real money is

    hahahaha that's funny

  41. Re:Bio-informatics by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 5, Informative
    Biotech is increasingly an IT-intensive industry. Some of the biggest iron in the world exists to crunch biotech problems, mostly related to protein folding and drug interactions. They also generate huge amounts of experimental data that has to be managed and mined. Finally there is a lot of automated lab equipment for parallelising those bits of it that still involve real chemicals and real biology.

    The field here is wide open. Lots of university biology departments are spinning off companies to make innovative new sensors, so you can get involved there. Or you can go and manage a Beowulf cluster for a big drug firm. Or anything in between.

    Paul.

    --
    You are lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different.
  42. Setting up my VPN by rosewood · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I know a good weekend project would be for some experienced users to help me setup my VPN in #linuxhelp on irc.enterthegame.com or they can reply and tell me what IRC chan they want to use or if they would prefer email, icq, msn, aim, etc.

    Basically I need to give people relatively secure (encrypted would be best) access to our locale network. How I was looking at doing this was using the linux box as the router/firewall. I basically need to have the remote PC be given IP addresses and work like they are on the network locally (either via DHCP or I can simply assign them static local IPs, 10.0.0.x).

    1. Re:Setting up my VPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Throw your 'puter out the window knowless.

  43. Is It Worth It? by grokBoy · · Score: 1
    For every company who have jumped on the latest (and greatest?) trend, and regularly use words like SOAP and 'e-Synergy', there will be many more who would like an 'old hand' in one department or other.

    Why not take this time to go back and fill in holes in your knowledge? Maybe you don't know how to do x in a language you use regularly, or you can set something up but can't secure it. This is going to be far more productive in the long run.

    Most of these technologies are so new it is going to be very hard to come across as an 'expert' in these fields because no-one has had enough real-world experience of them yet. Consolidate what you know.

  44. Re:.NET === XML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the xml-ized smart car will eventually replace the SO completely.

  45. Security by nakhla · · Score: 2

    Information security is probably the hottest segment of the market right now. Penetration testing, intrusion detection, common criteria. There are a ton of different things that you can do in the field, and there's LOTS of demand. Plus, since there are a lot of positions as government contractors available you have a bit more job security than you would have as a contractor for the commercial market.

  46. Avoid trendy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Concentrate on technique and avoid the so-called experts. In 1990, I was working in an all-Unix shop when I noticed that our "architects" and "gurus" starting getting Windows 3.1 desktops. They all assured me that programming Unix was a dead-end and that I had better start learning WIN32 APIs or be out of a job. I never took their advice and have still managed to stay employed. Be flexible however, and don't pigeon hole yourself into a single commercial framework (e.g. SAP, Oracle, .NET, etc.) Look at all of the people who thought they'd be set for life doing PowerBuilder, Gupta, or VINES network admin.

  47. Security by Fantanicity · · Score: 1

    Get into security. The goverment will throw money at you.

  48. One word for you.... by trud · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Plastics

    1. Re:One word for you.... by demian031 · · Score: 1

      e-plastics!

  49. Dumb Yahoo by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* Yahoo!, aimed for ad revenues that proved far smaller than hoped. *)

    Yahoo just seems to be making stupid decisions. I see almost *no* subject-based targeting in their geocities ads. I don't remember a single computer-related ad in my IT-related websites (such as my anti-OO site). It is already classified as a computer-related site in their system.

    Further, they are killing thier own "children". They are starting to "clean up" older sites that have not changed, regardless of the number of visitors.

    The cost of storing and transmitting webpages will continue to drop over time. (The only cost that might rise is content disputes, like DMCA stuff.)

    Thus these two factors:

    1. Better targeting ads

    2. Continuous drop in storage and transmission costs

    Should make things like Geocities viable. True, #2 is long-term, but they could do #1 now.

  50. Hot? Information Security. by Shalome · · Score: 1

    Information security! Not just antivirus, but actual data and network security. Learning how to configure and deploy SECURED web, mail, ftp servers on as many platforms as possible will make you infinately valuable to any company. Learning how to manage Windows security policies will make you valuable as well. Even if it IS mostly due to media-induced infoparanoia (oh no! Those evil h4X0rS are going to 0wN my .jpg files!) the information security field is booming. Companies simply can't find enough people who are diligent and knowledgeable enough to protect their systems. Salaries in that area continue to climb. I'm one of the lucky ones who jumped on the infosec ship early. :)

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    Moderation totals that amuse me for one of my posts: Flamebait=1, Insightful=2, Funny=2, Overrated=1, Underrated=1
  51. Learn to spell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yet, we here that a recovery is underway and that the technology sector as a whole is picking up again.

    What do I and other victims of the slowdown have to know to 'get back in the saddle' in the near future?"


    I'm not trying to be mean, but learning the difference between 'hear' and 'here' is pretty important. As someone who can and does hire people, I wouldn't take a second look at someone who didn't know the difference and made such a poor mistake in their writing. Being employable has less to do with a laundry list of skills than it does with being intelligent and flexible. This is especially true now despite common sense: many employers need to get by with less staff so they tend to look for people who are articulate, clever, experienced, and lastly, skilled.

  52. The future is so bright I need a radiation suit by gelfling · · Score: 2

    Walmat's real hot right now. They give you a uniform and everything.

    Oh sorry, you meant coding?

    1. Re:The future is so bright I need a radiation suit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked for a Sam's Club for almost two years. I sold computers and electronics. I was extremely sucessful there. I personally increased sales 50% in each of those departments. They kept dumping more and more stuff on me. Last week I walked out the door without giving notice. I could no longer tolerate their abuse and exploitation, which was deliberate and methodical, with the goal of extracting every little bit of performance from me that was possible. Now their sales will tank big time, and I really don't care. Why should I?

  53. Work on up-and-coming Big Free Software Projects by Micah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...like GNU Enterprise.

    As people continue to see the light and increasingly prefer Free Software, and want to keep their data in a more open system, projects like this should skyrocket in use, and people that know them well should be more valuable.

  54. why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why would you go poking around for employment advice
    among the largest pool of unemployed rejects known
    to internetdom?

  55. Java by Bloody+Bastard · · Score: 1

    I mean the coffee stuff! Coffee is always a "hot" trend (unless you like it cold =)

  56. You really don't get it by czth · · Score: 1
    This means using this career discontinuity to bone up on the latest-n-greatest in the hot sectors of the industry, to offer a better chance of a finding another great job.

    Buzzword compliance won't make you a better programmer, and if you go work for an employer that hires based on such then expect seriously inept coworkers.

    If you have a good grounding in CS principles (algorithm efficiency, data structures - linked lists, trees, use of pointers) plus a couple of representative programming languages (C or C++, and perhaps some higher level language like perl or sh) and can go from a problem description to a clean design and readable, documented code - then technologies with new names are unimportant. If you don't, then you'll be playing catch-up all the days of your life and still be woefully bereft of "clue."

    Take XML (as in "take my wife - please" :). It's just HTML except you get to invent the tags. There are some complications (W3C comes out with a new XML standard daily) but most of them can be ignored. Anyone that's read this paragraph can now put "XML" on their resume, but what's the point? Similarly, once you learn one structured or OOP or functional language, picking up another is easy; learn one RPC system (SUN RPC, CORBA, COM/DCOM, .NET) and the rest are, for the most part, isomorphic.

    Here's an article that I wrote a little while ago that might be of assistance.

    czth

    1. Re:You really don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you have a good grounding in CS principles . . . [blah, blah, blah] . . . then technologies with new names are unimportant

      Have you ever even looked for an IT job? Have you ever seen an employer looking for someone who knows "linked lists" or "use of pointers"? Employers don't want to pay for on-the-job training. They want a prospective employee to have precisely the skills required for the position, or they'll interview one of the other 50 applicants for the job who does have the required skills for the position. In the unlikely event that they can't find anyone who fulfils their criteria, then they probably won't hire anyone at all; it's cheaper and less risky to pay existing staff to work overtime than to train someone starting from scratch.

      Here's an article that I wrote a little while ago that might be of assistance.

      I'm not going to waste my time reading it. You have no clue about the realities of today's job market.

    2. Re:You really don't get it by czth · · Score: 1

      Have you ever even looked for an IT job?

      Several times.

      Have you ever seen an employer looking for someone who knows "linked lists" or "use of pointers"?

      Certainly. Clueful employers ask about solving problems, and quite frequently a binary tree or a linked list or another basic data structure - which many people still can't grasp - are fundamental in the solution.

      They want a prospective employee to have precisely the skills required for the position

      Which is why MSCEs and DeVry/ITT churn-outs can still get work, because employers think that's what they need. When employers clue in, that will cease to be the case. But clueful hiring people are, well, if not rare, still seem to be under 50% of interviewers. Big companies - e.g. Microsoft, from what I've heard, and Trilogy by personal experience - know how to hire people with transferable skills and the ability to learn.

      czth

    3. Re:You really don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm on the job hunt. I've got a Master's in algorithms. Nobody gives a shit. You don't have a damn clue, turd.

    4. Re:You really don't get it by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* Clueful employers ask about solving problems, and quite frequently a binary tree or a linked list or another basic data structure - which many people still can't grasp - are fundamental in the solution. *)

      I learned all that crap, but was happily able to toss it in the garbage when I started using table-friendly languages/API's. Roll-your-own data structures just don't scale in complexity and size and persistence. The only use for them is perhaps embedded systems that cannot afford the cost of a real database or table engine. (However, dBASE's III's table engine used to fit in about 64k, BTW. So size is not really an technical issue.)

      Unfortunately, OO hype has turned the tide back to roll-your-own databases and hand-indexing, so knowledge of linked list and array crap is now needed again.

      But, I figure the IT world will wake up from its OO sleep one of these days and we can then forget about hand-building lame data structures from scratch again. GOF should be renamed, "How to hand-build indexes because we don't understand tables".

      Keep On Tablin'
      oop.ismad.com
      Reply, don't moderate me down, wimp!

    5. Re:You really don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Fella, you are really missing the point.

      Clueful employers ask [emphasis added] about solving problems, and quite frequently a binary tree or a linked list or another basic data structure - which many people still can't grasp - are fundamental in the solution.

      Note the key word, "ask". My point is, you are not even going to get to that stage without the necessary skills in the requested technologies. You are not even going to get an interview unless those skills are on your resume. Skills in these technologies are essential; they are not "unimportant".

      I dare you, go to monster.com or anywhere you like and find me a job advertisement that asks for "linked lists" as a required skill. Just one. I'll shut up when you find it.

      [blah blah] ... Trilogy ... [blah blah]

      Trilogy? You mean this company?

    6. Re:You really don't get it by Beliskner · · Score: 2
      You are correct. Unfortunately oversupply is a problem. It means you can screen applicants based on who eats Hershey and still you'll have far too many. To use an amorphism, shields are up dude, you need the exact key to get through the shield.

      Every company knows they can train you, but having 1,000 resumes of trainable people and then 10 people who actually have used .NET for 3 years, well who would you choose?

      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
  57. Re:.NET === XML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wait, what part of all that requred xml, I'm confused?

  58. Hey by mnmn · · Score: 1

    I know whats cool and what will make you a million quickly. But you know what? I'm not telling. I'm going in it myself..

    In other developments, I am writing a great book on the Tech Sector. Costs $300 but worth it. Buy two copies from me in case one gets lost.. Oh and also.. If you're deep in debt and need relief click here and here. Also Ive got great porn...

    --
    "Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
  59. Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by ahfoo · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    The Economist has been going on for months in a row about the end of capitalism as we know it and has even run articles in which The Economist of London's staff reporters have said things like-- perhaps capitalism was never appropriate for many parts of the world.
    In case you hadn't heard, Taiwan's chip fabs have gone renegade and are pushing the ultimate limits of nanotechnology in a period of months rather than the twenty years drawn out schedule set by IBM. I'm talking about the 65nm fab being built in Singapore as we speak. See the last few months of EETimes if you want some scarry stories. Yeah, that was nanotech, it went by so fast you hardly even saw it, eh?
    While investment bankers are being charged with corruption, Wall Street is below where it was before the Gulf War and Israel is loading nuclear cruise missles onto a fleet of submarines in an effort to beat India and Pakistan to the headlines of being the second nation in history to use nuclear weapons for offensive purposes.
    Who is suggesting to you that things are suddenly going to rebound?
    Oh, did I mention that Taiwan students have stopped attending the TOEFL in vast droves and are now going to grad school in mainland China instead of the US? So much for that strategic partnership. And you can guess what this is going to look like a few years down the road when the chips market has been totally commoditized and relocated to mainland China and Taiwan has de-facto reunified by popular consent from within Taiwan. Americans are going to be like --when did everything suddenly change? Well guess what, it's changing by the minute and much of it is the seeds of bitter fruit that we Americans have ourselves planted with decades of irresponsible government that has allowed the sickness of monopoly to put our economy in grave danger.
    I suggest you look outside of anything that has to do with software or hardware for money. For entertainment though --hey don't touch that dial babe. PCs are the entertainment value of choice and value is what we're all going to need lots of.

    1. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 1

      Aren't you just the sweetest little ray of sunshine?

      Jack William Bell

      --
      - -
      Are you an SF Fan? Are you a Tru-Fan?
    2. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >[D]id I mention that Taiwan students have stopped attending the TOEFL in vast droves and are now going to grad school in mainland China instead of the US?

      I'd be interested in your source. 31,000+ Taiwanese students were estimated as studying in the US in 1998/1999. This compares with a recent estimate of Taiwanese students in Chinese colleges as "more than 4000". The ratio looks like 7:1 to me.

    3. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by dubl-u · · Score: 2

      Dude that stuff makes me paranoid, too.

      Best not to mix economics and toking, though. Instead, try writing device drivers when the paranoia hits; that way you will trap potential errors six ways from Sunday.

    4. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by ahfoo · · Score: 2

      Well so much for annonymity.
      I am a partner in one of Taiwan's largest TOEFL cram schools. I produce the only remaining viable TOEFL computer practice test in Taiwan. Our competitors had larger budgets, but they also spent money too fast, when it began drying up last year they kept going full speed ahead and lately our only major competitor dried up and disappeared. I'm the sole survivor. Ha ha ha, but the battlefield is covered in salt. There's no spoils to be had. Game over. Insert coin.
      I've been sitting through interviews with all the competitors' teachers that have been laid off. We're not going to hire them because we don't have any students either, we just like to drill them for data.
      As far as where the kids have gone --well that's no secret. Look at the eductaion ministry's home page for more info on the lifting of restriction to Mainland. It's been about two years now since that went through. I would suggest that most government statistical reports from the US are at least a year out of date. And I would also suggest that US statistics on mainland China's education are little more than guesses.
      It's tough, but it's not all bad. I've always been a bit concerned with the emphasis on English although I used to profit from it, though never much by US standards. I've always felt that the Chinese language is beautiful and extremely poetic and I've spent many years studying it. So, perhaps a turn away from the West isn't so bad for people like myself who have solid Mandarin skills. In the end, my Mandarin skills may be more important than all my precious windows code. I'll believe in this awesome Chinese translation software when I see it.

    5. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by Beliskner · · Score: 2

      How do you know that China won't turn around and bite you like they did to Tibet (where they are constructing a railroad to cause ethnic cleansing by forcefully settling Hun chinese in Tibet genocide of 1.2 million people - World Trade Centre is insignificant nothing ) and in Xinjiang province where they are killing the Muslims. How do you know they won't do the same to you? Do you tell your students this before they leave to go to the mainland?

      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    6. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by ahfoo · · Score: 2

      Uhm.
      You're missing it here buddy. I've been bit by the Taiwan students that are going to China. I don't profit from that in any way shape or form. I lose. I've already been bit. The students don't want to talk to me because they're not studying English and that's what the E in TOEFL is for and that's what I sell. Game over. Insert coin. Go home yankee, we don't need your Eenglish because your PC chip game has eneded. See, I've already been bit. That is to say, I have been bitten already. It's the past tense, you see. There is no speculation on this, it's a done deal.
      I should point out though that I had an American wife at one point who also bit me --drew blood even. So, you can get bit wherever you go. But as the Rolling Stones once said. .. let it bleed. You get over it or you die. Either way nothing much changes.

    7. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by Beliskner · · Score: 1
      Do you try to tell the students before they apply for China? I saw the rally where Coco Lee and Ah-Mei protested against CD burning, but these stars don't try to tell these kids the bad side of China, these kids don't read the news and so don't know Ah Mei was banned from appearing in China after agreeing to sing Taiwan's national anthem at President Chen Shui-bian's inauguration. Somebody needs to tell them these bad things about China, somebody needs to make a big deal out of it. China is patient, it's like a tiger hiding moving slowly to attack without anyone seeing it, only now is it starting to act against the Falun Gong protestors in Hong Kong. To avoid international outrage it moved its policies to Hong Kong slowly, somebody has to tell these kids China's real tactics.
      I should point out though that I had an American wife at one point who also bit me --drew blood even
      Yeah, many of them do that often. I think it's some sort of New York thing, but they don't pay much attention to news and things happening, much like these Taiwan kids.
      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    8. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by ahfoo · · Score: 2

      Alright, one more time but just because I'm bored with what's going on in the other window.
      See the deal here is that I no longer get to see the lovely children of Taiwan when they decide to go to China. I can't tell them anything because I don't see them anymore. I miss them so much and wish they would come back to me and buy my Eengleeesh learning CeeDees, but they don't like me no more and I am suspecting it's got something to do with the end of chip technology from the west.
      If there were students to see, I would tell them how great America is like I always have done in the past, but they don't come to see me about going to China. It's not my business anymore at that point. I don't have any role to play in their China plans.
      But anyhow, telling the extremely racis... I mean nationalist and traditional Chinese people of Taiwan that they should be against mainland China is a tricky thing to be doing as a foreigner who actually has to live here and try to make some business. Just getting by is quite the achievement.

    9. Re:Who told you things are looking good? CNN? by Beliskner · · Score: 1

      That's such a shame. If you are a teacher, then surely you know other younger teachers that work in schools and teach the younger children. Why don't you tell those teachers to be frank about China? There's plenty of truths about China that must be known. That way also next year you'll get more business.

      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
  60. He just wants to... by sheepab · · Score: 1

    He just wants to make millions.
    There are three ways to do this, well four.
    1. Inherit it.
    2. Become an entertainer and make millions that way.
    3. Start your own business or...
    4. Real estate

    1. Re:He just wants to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should be
      4. Construction/Real Estate
      -And you have to get pretty lucky with what you buy vs. what you sell.

      But aside from that isn't most people's goal to make millions?

  61. Government Work by XBL · · Score: 2

    or for gov't contractors. I am just out of school, and found a well-paying job with a bunch of old guys. There is going to be a lot of people retiring in this sector over the short term.

    Oh, and the job is interesting.

    1. Re:Government Work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite true. Between the post 9/11 needs for more security and the demographics of an aging Federal work force, government work is taking off. Not "Dot.Com", but there is a lot of interesting technology work. You can either work directly for Government or as a Contractor.

  62. I don't have the final answer, but... by cdupree · · Score: 1
    I can offer more questions ;-}.

    One is, what are you going for? Is it more important to you to be working in a hot, even bleeding-edge, field, or does your situation call for more security? If the former, how long can you wait for the payoff? If you're looking for what'll be hot in the next year or two, I think that's very to predict. But if you're trying to prepare for five years from now, I'd be willing to bet that wireless is going to boom the next time the economy is really good. I was working for Metricom (Ricochet modems) when they went under, and most people seemed to be convinced that the major stockholders, WorldCom and Paul Allen, were not giving up, but retrenching. (In fact, my guess is that they found a neat accounting trick that allowed them to dump a billion dollars worth of debt and start over.) I sure think that someone's gonna do this, and make a lot of money. Being there at the right moment could be lucrative and exciting.

    On the other hand, if you need security more than excitement for whatever reason, there are a number of choices. Someone's already mentioned support; doing that job well is difficult, and can be rewarding. Databases, networks, the backbone stuff isn't going away soon.

    You're already ahead of the game with your attitude of trying to make use of the time. Good luck with your search!

  63. LOL by hendridm · · Score: 2

    > and put yourself in a position where somebody will recognize you for it.

    Why the hell didn't I think of that?! 8 months of unemployment and the answer is that simple!

    Studying what you like doesn't work unless what you like is a current "hot trend". I think this industry requires chasing hot trends, unless you are lucky enough to get "job security" (I heard about such a thing once in a magazine article).

    1. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually, is having job security really that great? I mean, I can see why it would be nice to be able to work a job without being afraid of losing it, but wouldn't that mean you will have a greater chance of staying there for god knows how long? Sure, you have the option of changing your job, but sometimes you need to be forced to switch otherwise you probably won't. I would think getting laid off from one job and being able to go to another means you end up getting more varied work experience. This is a good thing in my opinion, cause after all, variety is the spice of life. I'd much rather go through 10 different jobs in my lifetime than stick with just one for the entire time.

    2. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      all job security means is that you will be paid less, to work longer for the company. it's win win for them.

    3. Re:LOL by JordanH · · Score: 2
      • Why the hell didn't I think of that?! 8 months of unemployment and the answer is that simple!

        Studying what you like doesn't work unless what you like is a current "hot trend".

      This is simply not true. Being into something that's a "hot trend" will find you with a lot of others. If you don't like it, you won't stand out.

      There is always work for people who are good at what they do. An important ingredient in being good at what you do is enjoying what you do.

      It's just that simple.

      Now, if you can find something that's hot and that you know you really enjoy, then throw yourself into it. Seems like that's going about it backwards, though.

      If you still need direction on what to study, all jobs require good communications skills and good organizational skill. You could work on those areas, if you really want to focus on things that will help.

    4. Re:LOL by smagruder · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Studying what you like doesn't work unless what you like is a current "hot trend".


      Buzzzt! Guess again. Try counting up all the actual programming jobs using the "hot trends"; this number will be *far* lower than the "other" programming jobs out there (no... don't just look at Monster... I mean all potential programming jobs). There are many shops underserved with regards to the meat n' potatoes apps that a lot of "good" programmers snub their noses at, so these shops end up with money-grubbing consultants who swoop in and leave crap behind. Commit yourself to *high* quality and helping (yes, really HELPING) businesses thrive. Fix their existing systems and build quality new systems, and you'll go far. Sticking to the bleeding edge stuff (i.e., .NET) will drive you crazy and lead you off many "lemmings cliffs."

      --
      Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
    5. Re:LOL by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* There are many shops underserved with regards to the meat n' potatoes apps that a lot of "good" programmers snub their noses at *)

      Care to name some? I might be in the (horrible, nasty, lowdown) market again in a few weeks. (Temp jobs are easier to find these days. Nobody want to invest in permies right now.)

      Besides, there is probably a *reason* they are being snubbed. For example, small companies often like to skip paychecks, making IOU's. Been there done that.

    6. Re:LOL by hendridm · · Score: 2

      > but wouldn't that mean you will have a greater chance of staying there for god knows how long?

      Oh, you must be one of those people who HAS a job. Thank you, drive through.

    7. Re:LOL by hendridm · · Score: 2

      > There is always work for people who are good at what they do.

      If this is a truth, I must be good at nothing. I am willing to improve my skills (I thought that's why I went to college, to get a head start), but it's tough to do with NO MONEY and no opportunity for ON THE JOB experience.

      You must be another one of those people with a job. Thanks for the advice, though.

    8. Re:LOL by chuckwagon99 · · Score: 1

      Another point that's worth making is one my father the recruiter always shoves in my ear:

      There is a lot of difference between ten years of experience and 1 year of experience repeated ten times.


      In other words, don't get stuck in the same gig, never learning anything new or taking on new tasks.

    9. Re:LOL by neuroticia · · Score: 1

      Err. Are you sure that your dad wasn't talking about "ten years of experience with one employer" vs "1 year of experience" re-distributed by having to start at the low-rung of the totem pole 10 times over? Personally I learn more when my forward-movement is unimpeded. If I have to start over at a new job I'll most likely find a few stumbling blocks that would slow me down before I got back up to steam. I don't think I'm unique in this, either. I can hardly be said to be stagnating, though. I'm just not required to re-do the tasks that I've already done, except for when I go through them on my own to reinforce them and refresh them in my memory.

      So, you might want to check back with your dad and find out exactly what he meant with that statement.

      Besides, if it's 10x the same one-year-worth-of-experience at one job, then the employer should have fired the person long ago. There's enough stuff to learn in "this industry" that no one should ever be caught repeating something for that long.

      Not saying that a new job is a bad thing. I'm just saying that holding the same job for a long time is not necessarily a bad thing, nor should it impede your forward-motion. Unless, of course, you're looking to get into... ugh. management.

      -Sara

    10. Re:LOL by Beliskner · · Score: 2
      There is always work for people who are good at what they do
      Nope, your resume has to show that you're good at it. Whether you're good or not doesn't matter, as long as you can "talk the talk and walk the walk".
      --
      A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
    11. Re:LOL by JordanH · · Score: 1
      • I am willing to improve my skills (I thought that's why I went to college, to get a head start), but it's tough to do with NO MONEY and no opportunity for ON THE JOB experience.

      Well, if you have NO MONEY and no opportunity for ON THE JOB experience, how are you going to seriously study anything anyway?

      Might as well give up and sit around watching TV and reading Slashdot all day. It's hopeless.

    12. Re:LOL by hendridm · · Score: 1

      > Might as well give up and sit around watching TV and reading Slashdot all day. It's hopeless.

      Hey, have you been watching me or something? :)

      I do agree this career path is hopeless. I'm thinking about going to a tech school and actually learning a trade - something the University was unable to offer.

    13. Re:LOL by evodas · · Score: 1

      Well, I took you advice. I have never considered a job secure and never stayed where I thought I would go into maintenance mode.
      But then, I'm only human. And after 20 years in the business and at 45 years old, you quickly learn something about reality. A mortgage. Approaching college payments. Adequate retirement. An occasional vacation... at least without the stress of thinking that I just spent money I could have spent on covering the next 6 months it will take me to get another job. And, finally: This country is so riven with age discrimination, it's ridiculous. Unless you stay where you are after a certain point, one of two things happen -- you don't get a job because you're too old or you watch you income steadily go back to where it was 5 years ago, 10 years ago, and so forth.

      So, enjoy job-hopping while you're young. I did and am now learning there is a price.

  64. Take the advice of Dogbert: by Jerf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ratbert: "I'm going to interview successful people and write a book of their tips. I'll start with you, Dobert."

    Dogbert: "Set your alarm clock to go off every hour. Keep a big vat of 'Jell-O' by the bed. When the alarm clock goes of, stick your head in the 'Jell-O' and yell, 'Boy, I'm tired!'"

    Ratbert: "Thanks!"

    Dogbert (thinking): "Beware the advice of successful people; they do not seek company."

    Seven Years of Highly Defective People, p. 137.

    1. Re:Take the advice of Dogbert: by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      I don't remember where I saw it, but it went something like this:

      "Welcome, Roger. As our new Downsizing Expert, your first duty will be to fire yourself."

      This rang with me as I moved from one failing dot-com to another. (One such company did non-dot-com stuff, so I thot they would be more stable, but they canned the web staff anyhow when their whole biz was slow.)

  65. There aren't any "hot technologies" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    There seem to be a lot of techies looking for the next big invention that's going to make everything like it was in the late 1990's again.

    I've got news for you. It ain't gonna happen.

    What happened then was a stock market bubble. A bunch of greedy financial speculation in technology stocks that had the side effect of creating a nice job market for IT professionals. It had next to nothing to do with any technology; it could just as well have been tulip bulb stocks.

  66. Re:Um... by hendridm · · Score: 1

    So what your saying is the reason I'm unemployed is because I'm doing things I DON'T like? I didn't know!

    Easy to say when you HAVE a job.

  67. Versatility is the key... by Cooker · · Score: 1

    The most versatile employees are axed last: the sys admin who can put up a web page showing disk usage stats and his schedule and task list (and keep it full) will keep his job over the one who doesn't.

    The developer who knows an extra language the company wants to use/has bought a software package dependent on the language, etc--will keep his job longer. Also, productivity and experience counts.

    Of course all things aren't always equal and never forget that while you may be a creative techie, work is still politics, may I recommend: The 48 Laws of Power (no, I'm not the author)

    As for potential industries, I'd have to pick three: security, health care, and small businesses. Lot of people may say/think biotech, but it's already a crowded house with an uphill challenge. Even by the best estimates 1 in 10 biotech companies will survive/make anything. Pfizer has a hit with a boner pill and everyone thinks they're going to strike it rich. Zeesh! looks like nothing has been learned from the dot.com idiots.

    peace,

    Cooker

  68. Security would be a hot thing... by antdude · · Score: 2

    I currently for a software security company, and I believe security is a hot future.

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  69. Biotech. Programming well is optional. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The reason is quite simple. You are not solving computer problems, you are solving science problems. The payoff is getting drugs to market faster. Every day a drug is on the market can be $1 million a DAY in revenue.



    The science behind drug discovery is fairly invovled, and time consuming to learn. On the contrary, it is pretty easy to learn to make a short program that solves a math problem.



    It is not easy to learn to write a GOOD program. Generally the code used in informatics departments is slow, hard to maintain, poorly documented, leaks resources, and is prone to dump core on a large number of inputs.



    The bottom line is that infomratics people solve science problems. A scientist can quickly become a passable programmer. As soon as they do that, drug companies don't care if they have to spend millions of dollars on hardwarwe to get things to run quickly. Informatics problems can be solved by scientists, they just usually don't write very good code to do it.



    It would be great to have people that are good scientist and good programmers. But it is hard to teach programmers even the basic vocabulary they need to be able to talk to a scientist about what the problem to be solved is. If you can only have one, you have to take the scientist over the programmer.

  70. Re:.NET === XML by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    XML is simply a data transmission format. Comma delimited format did not generate front-page news when it came out, so why should XML?

    People trying to turn XML into databases and programming languages are missing the mark. XML does not do either of these particularly well. Databases are optimized to be databases, not optimized to fit a certain external format. That would be almost like optimizing a car engine to resemble a Peter Max drawing.

    Regarding .NET, MS made a confusing mess. The advantage of VB was that it had a shorter learning curve than Java and its API's. Now that MS cloned Java, they also cloned the complexity of Java, it seems.

    All it will do is create a *new* market for K.I.S.S. True, MS might suck up that market also, but they still have to start from scratch and risk all the problems related to being overbearing and mean.

    (Whether the Java approach is "better" in the long run to make up for the longer learning curve is another long, flameful debate. I personally think Sun's API's are rotting crap.)

  71. looking for work? by oliphaunt · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I think the FBI probably needs someone to teach them how to use Google.

    --




    Humpty Dumpty was pushed.
  72. Choose automation/process technology! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And then apply for a job at
    Atomirakennus Inc who might make the new finnish atomic power plant (=

  73. Do Some Open Source & Brag by justanyone · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Find a subject or area that interests you, and follow up on it by finding an open source project (see Sourceforge.net for good ideas).

    Basically, find a module on CPAN that is neglected, or look for some idea that hasn't been done elsewhere, work on it and post it to the web, and get your claim to fame!

    Another great idea is to help out with the CJAN (sourceforge has the project) and bone up on your Java skills, converting ideas from CPAN into Java and posting them on some kind of CJAN site. You'll

    • get Java experience,
    • help the community,
    • prove you can program well,
    • prove to a future employer that you know something, and
    • prove you're motivated to do good work you're not afraid for other programmers to use/read.

    Some other ideas:

    • Don't be afraid to brag on the resume,
    • practice answering the top 50 interview questions believably, with good and truthful answers,
    • post your resume on lots of job boards,
    • create a kickin' homepage,
    • find old documents like howto's that you've written that are generally usefull to everyone and post them on your page,
    • don't forget to wax your car! It's summer!
    -- Kevin
  74. The Problem with "Hot" Jobs by fidget42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is that they tend to cool off, and the hotter they are the faster (and farther) they cool. I would really recommend a more "tempid" area for work, as those jobs will be around for a while. Network administration may not be sexy, but I have yet to see a network that can manage itself.

    I personally work in embedded systems development. While the pay may not be at the top of the curve, you will not find a more challenging area nor will you find a brighter group of developers. The best thing is that your skills are kept sharp for when the industry heats up again (i.e., You can do what on a 486 with 128K of memory?).

    --
    The dogcow says "Moof!"
    1. Re:The Problem with "Hot" Jobs by Webmonger · · Score: 2

      128 k? Cry a lot?

  75. Common LISP by drj826 · · Score: 1

    CL -- it's the next big thing!!

  76. Copy protection by jdh28 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Copy protection seems to be a growth industry at the moment.

    john

    1. Re:Copy protection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copy protection seems to be a growth industry at the moment.

      That would be copy restriction, not protection.

    2. Re:Copy protection by zyglow · · Score: 1

      Copy protection may be the "in thing", but it will always be defeated. Thus, you get fired, and the next wave of "experts" developes something new.

      --
      http://www.forum-addicts.com
  77. Ceteris paribus by Quirk · · Score: 1

    I somewhat self-deprecatingly characterize myself as a wannabe, newbie programmer. This because although I've been on PCs since the early 80s, made friends with DOS, Basic, Visual Basic and, now, C, I've never worked in the field. My background is in com/economics with a strong history in humanities and more especially epistemology. I note the above to bore and to bait you. It seems for all the logic inherent in the exercise of programming few programmers seem to know how to conduct an analysis or an experiment. Even elementary statistics and probability courses would suggest an answer more immediately germane to the person who submitted the question. Asking what is hot without so much as a nod toward the history, proclivities and abilities of the person asking the question betrays a superficiality that deserves to be trolled. Read the title to my comment, research the meaning. If you can't get off first base try an old standard like A. Kaplan, 'Conduct of Inquiry', or, Fisher on conducting experiments. If nothing else you'll come away far ahead of the pack that sets up the hew and cry at /. and you'll have acquired a valuable asset: How to ask the right question.

    --
    "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
    Cohen
    1. Re:Ceteris paribus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Newbie programmers" with attitudes such as yours remind me why I've moved away from computing. Thanks for affirming my decision.

    2. Re:Ceteris paribus by Quirk · · Score: 1

      why I've moved away from computing.

      Dude, you're posting @ /. move further away... way, way, way away.

      --
      "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
      Cohen
    3. Re:Ceteris paribus by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      Hue and cry.

      --


      Writers imply. Readers infer.
    4. Re:Ceteris paribus by Quirk · · Score: 1

      Right you are. My only defense, I'm canajen, and we're hewers of wood and carriers of water. Lame but it's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

      --
      "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
      Cohen
    5. Re:Ceteris paribus by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      I tried and tried to make the "hew" work.
      I thought about trees that screamed when you cut them and about blisters that split and leaked.
      No dice.
      The point you made remains valid, of course.

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    6. Re:Ceteris paribus by Quirk · · Score: 1

      *Ahem*, Yes well, of course, to the, uhm, uninitiated the connection may, at first appear, at best tenuous. (note: tortuous intro necessary to general attempts at recovery from a faux pas)... But, uhm, given the established, strong associational bent of the human thought processes, and, J. Piaget's work outlinning the developing ego as evincing a highly egocentric conceptualiztion of the world, (note: name dropping and loose reference to a widely held theory necessary to obfuscate and deny the application of Occam's razor, leaving the reader staring into the hypnotizing glare of a Rasputin like declaration of near divine insight), and, further, that the original post spoke from a first person reference to reference characteristics of another it is easily seen that my natural inclination to think of myself in terms of a hewer of wood would invite the _slip_ (see associational premise) of hew for hue. Or it may be my Danish/German ancestory predisposes me to *hew* and cry in the great tradition of beserkers, rather than the more British manner of tut tuting bad behaviour. Well I seem to have defended myself admirably and shown yet once again that I have no life. :) cheers

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      Cohen
  78. Really HOT Sector by dracken · · Score: 1

    The Hottest sector is the restaurant business my friend. Serving Hot food will always be hot. Computers or no computers : People gotta eat! So quit java and start a cafe instead.

    -Dracken

  79. Go work for Innatrode or Pennatrode by justanetgod · · Score: 1

    Oh wait - try Penna, Inna burnt down...

  80. Re:Um... by archen · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think what he means is that since he can choose his path, that he should give something a try that he always wanted to do, but probably hasn't. It's easy to say when you have a job, but it would probably be a mistake to jump on a buzzword then end up doing something that sucks.

  81. One word, Benjamin... by DEBEDb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Plastics.

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  82. Well... by BoxJockey · · Score: 1

    If we knew that, why would we tell the entire Slashdot community!! My God man, the whole robotics industry would suffer the Slashdot effect, extinguishing the heat under a 42+e7 ton pile of geek resumes.

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  83. Adult Industry Not All It Is Cracked Up To Be. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As in this article from wired:
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.02/s ex.html? pg=2

  84. I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a job by Mr.+Firewall · · Score: 1

    I'm a network administrator with two certifications, one in security, and I've been out of work for four months.

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  85. Now you have the chance... by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2

    ...to finally learn C.

    Seriously.

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  86. Re:Um... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 2

    I'm unemployed also. When I do find a job, it's more often some 2 month contract, than anything even remotely perm or fulltime. But even so, I'm not whoring myself around, trying to learn the latest buzzwords and act like it's something that makes me employable. The reason I chose this as a career, was because I love everything about IT. Not because I heard there were fat paychecks to be found.

    So, in the meantime, I plan on continuing to learn the same things I've been teaching myself, and forget about whatever the latest crraze is with the pundits and industry rags.

    And yes, maybe if you don't like IT, this indirectly translates to you being unemployed. Lord knows if I were hiring someone, I would rather have someone that liked doing the job they were being interviewed for...

  87. Shrinkwrap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The old fashioned business of putting software in a box and selling it.

  88. FUD Writer by unsinged+int · · Score: 1

    If you're a tech person who enjoys writing, this seems to be a hot area at the moment. It requires the skills to...well...um...okay, so maybe even if you're completely unqualified you could get hired for this.

  89. Re:I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a j by ipxodi · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to gloat or to disrespect anyone. Surely everyone laid off from a tech job these days is having a tough time. (I know that I was very lucky to land a job in 3 weeks.) But in general I think Net Admins, being somewhat the "Jack of all trades" of the industry, have a better chance of staying employed or regaining employment quickly than the "specialists."

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  90. slashdotted by Srin+Tuar · · Score: 2



    IsMyJobHotorNot.com


    The site seems to be slashdotted already. It's so bad the hostname is'nt even resolving.

    1. Re:slashdotted by donnacha · · Score: 2
      IsMyJobHotorNot.com

      The site seems to be slashdotted already. It's so bad the hostname is'nt even resolving.

      lol, what's the betting that some idiot actually goes and registers the name before this thread discussion gets much older?

      Gleaned from the world's most idealogically sound domain registrar:

      After checking, the domain name IsMyJobHotorNot.com is available.
    2. Re:slashdotted by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* IsMyJobHotorNot.com *)

      And if you score poorly, there is always layofflounge.com (a real website).

  91. Automotive, home networks,... by De+Lemming · · Score: 1

    Have a look at OSGi, the Open Services Gateway Initiative. This non-profit organisation works on open specifications for managed service delivery, and has broad industry support. There's a lot of information on the site, so it's certainly worth checking.

  92. Opportunities... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I heard the unemployment office was looking for bright talented software engineers to answer phones all day... seems they needed someone who spoke the same language as the guy at the other end of the phone.

    1. Re:Opportunities... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* I heard the unemployment office was looking for bright talented software engineers to answer phones all day... seems they needed someone who spoke the same language as the guy at the other end of the phone. *)

      ROFL. Mod this dude/dudette up! (at zero now)

  93. Missed One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You Missed One..
    Steal
    Just my 2c.

  94. not hot but stable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Look into NT engineering. They are always jobs posted on hotjobs.com for them. I was a Solaris Operator for Dow Jones but now that the bubble burst we were let go. Now it's almost impossible to find another unix job. There aren't any Linux jobs outside of programming which are all temp jobs or require a rediculous amount of experience(8-10 years). Don't believe me.. Go to hotjobs.com and look for Linux Jobs. The only one is for rackspace.com and they've been flooding that for 4 months now.

    Career for dummies:
    Windows World:
    Obtain A+ cert -> get job repairing PC's at Best buy or small pc shop ($10/hr)-> Obtain MCP and read up on MOUS objectives -> Get Job as Help Desk ($20/hr) -> Obtain MCSA + CCNA -> JR NT Engineer($25/hr) -> Obtain MCSE + CCNP -> SENIOR NT Engineer -> SQL Cert (oracle/sql)+ Visual Basic -> DBA (100,000/year) ->RETIRE

    Unix World:
    temp unix operator job ->learn Shell scripting/perl and veritas and earn SCSA->Look for underpaid SCSA admin jobs->(after a few years you realize that now the bubble has burst there is no demand for unix admins)-> go to windows

    or

    RHCE->troll slashdot->learn c and write free code ($0/hr)->go back to windows

    Summary: The hotjobs of the future will be Supporting Microsoft products.

    Graphical summary: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=c&c=msft&k=c1&t=1y&s= lnux&a=v&p=s&l=on&z=m&q=l

    1. Re:not hot but stable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hold on there hoss.

      windows world (start anywhere) -> show how you can save millions with linux -> do it -> rinse and repeat -> retire

  95. network security? by zrodney · · Score: 0

    how about security type jobs?

  96. Does anybody remember ... by SmartAs · · Score: 1

    ... that weasel from Loonie Tunes that pissed Foghorn Leghorn all the time? I think he was always after the Next Big Thing.

    Somebody ask him!

    Insert image of googly eyed, drooling weasel ...

    - SmartAs

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    'In pusuit of the greater good! ... Setting good ideas free, just to see them fly.'
  97. Imclone? Are you nucking futz? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Imclone was denied its drug approval. Something about fudged clinical trials. The owner was arrested for insider trading, and even got his squeeze Martha Stewart in trouble.


    I suppose the rest of these recommendations are just as good. It's not a beautiful thing.

  98. defensive purposes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Israel is loading
    nuclear cruise missles onto a fleet of submarines in an effort to beat India and Pakistan to the headlines of being the second nation in history to
    use nuclear weapons for offensive purposes.



    Our use of the atomic bomb was defensive. They attacked us, remember? Or did your gov't schoolteachers tell you the US was the aggressor at Pearl Harbor. The Japs knew they were toast as the bombers went out. Read the book by Gordon Prange, At Dawn We Slept.

    If Israel pops one, she'll be the first to use the atom bomb offensively.

    As for the TOEFL, not much interesting in the US since NAFTA and GATT.

  99. The entertainment industry by orange7 · · Score: 1

    No, no -- not porn: PC/console games. Go look at how the stock prices of EA, Activision, etc. have done over the last few years compared to the rest of the tech industry. I'm working for a studio that's hired several new people pretty much every week for the last year or so.

    If you're interested in engineering positions you need experience or to otherwise be pretty damn good. But good IT people and network people are needed too, especially with all the online stuff going on. Plus, it seems to be a trend that they throw a lot of people at a product to get it to ship date over the last six months of the cycle.

    Plus, although it's fast moving and often stressful, it's damn fun a lot of the time. Give me coding explosions over database work any day of the week.

    A.

  100. Small business == slim margins by sterno · · Score: 2

    I worked in consulting for 4 years and we avoided the small business customers for a very important reason. The problem with a small company is that they go through the same hesitation and concern over spending thousands of dollars that a big company would do over millions of dollars. You end up having to work just as hard for a substantially smaller return.

    Now, that's as a consultant. Consulting implies a certain amount of custom work, which is what kills you in the smaller businesses. If you could develop some product that's useful to a lot of small businesses, then you might have some potential to make money at it. Think of something like quick books, a product that lots of small companies use, that's relatively cheap but is sold in large enough quantities to be profitable.

    So, what you need to do is identify a need in the market. The trick is not inventing the next big thing, it is simply finding an unaddressed need. You've probably stumbled accross a few of these in your past work; meeting people who are doing things a complex way because they have no idea there's a better way. Find those things and provide solutions to them.

    The thing that's different though in developing a product is that you, as the "leisured" programmer are taking on the risk of it. If you are billing somebody by the hour, if something goes wrong, you can still eat. If you make some product and nobody buys it, you are screwed. This means that, in addition to being able to develope software, you need to have the talent or be able to hire the talent necessary to sell your product to people.

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    1. Re:Small business == slim margins by slyborg · · Score: 1

      Excellent response. A one-man operation can live hand to mouth like this, but you are going to have to be prepared for substantially more bullshit than you are probably equipped to handle.

      $1000/installation is probably about right for what a small business owner might pay. You seriously think a one man show can turn over 40 sales a year? It's ridiculous. You aren't going to convert all the mechanics in your neighborhood, either, that would be 100% market share, which is pretty unlikely. And you don't just hand them a copy of "Office" in the box and walk away with your $1k. Every single one of them will need/want custom mods.

      Small business owners are inherently conservative, which is how they stay in business. For anybody interested in starting a tech-related business I highly recommend a book by Arnold Kling called "Under the Radar". It's written by a netrepreneur who started out trying to sell a single product to small businesses (his real estate website), and managed to score during the Bubble. His book is actually based on interviews with other entrepeneurs and would-be entrepreneurs, and was very informative, he's candid about his own mistakes and completely avoids any ego trips or self-congratulation.

      It's obviously not impossible to start a business, but it's a completely different skill set from being an elite code jockey. Advising somebody to start a small business is essentially advising them to get out of programming. I don't think that is what the thread starter was asking at all.

  101. Best bet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two words: Netware Six

  102. FPGAs by trbraun · · Score: 1

    If you have a hardware bent, look at VHDL or Verilog, the two most common hardware description languages. The use of FPGAs (Field Programmable Gate Arrays) is increasing, especially in the telecom industry.

    There's more demand than people in this area from what I can tell. However, you do limit yourself mostly to medium and large sized companies with this, as small companies usually can't afford to get into it.

    1. Re:FPGAs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are right, however this is not universal. Some small companies (people-wise) has lots of cash flow and can afford the latest hardware.

      Most small companies use CPLDs and PLDs, and can afford some smaller, older devices. The software can be free, and programming the devices is easy.

  103. Remote GUI's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simple answer: just finished a project with a Remote GUI written in Delphi over Http which connects to back-end Sql Server -> used Asta middleware from www.Astatech.com -> bloody brilliant and runs fast.

    got a great GUI/DB front end with Delphi running to an Asta server, which updates the db

    borland has a similar thing to Asta called Datasnap. This is all great technology, none of this browser-Javascript junk

  104. Re:.NET === XML by selderrr · · Score: 2

    Well, I sure hope you're right as far as the .NET == XML equation goes. I'm not experienced with .NET to judge it.

    as far as the XML not good for databases or PLs, you're right too, but you're missing one more section : data exchange. XML is pretty good at that : you can dunk anything (dunkeable offcourse) into an XML and send it over. The reading side can undunk it and process. Tab delimited stinks at this. So XML is a big leap over tab if you look at it from that perspective.

    About the KISS principles, well, the pure existance of MS is the only axiom that keeps KISS alive. If MS hadn't been here, we would never have had a need for KISS. MS incorporates MICM (mae it complex, moronic) into ANYTHING they build.

  105. You know what they say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have to ask...

  106. Stay above the Fray by mveloso · · Score: 2

    And move into management. As a manager one said, "Details don't matter."

    Learn how technology applies to businesses, then make that your business. In the world of business, people that understand technology and business issues are rare, valuable commodities. Managers who've got tech and business cred are more valuable that you'd ever understand.

    Think of it this way: would you rather be the guy that hand-coded the unified password repository, or the guy who's team of people defined and implemented company-wide technology standards, and created a stable computing base for the next 10 years?

    The answer, of course, is the first one!

    But still, it's a much different feeling to say "Wal-Mart kicked the cr*p out of everyone because of the logistics system we came up with is the sh*t." than it is to say "I single-handedly delivered a php-based dynamic website in 2 weeks."

    In short, ignore the technology, and concentrate on the business end. You'll be more useful, and you won't worry that your skills are eroding.

  107. Another biotech risk by swb · · Score: 2

    ...is not from corrupt, ImClone-style insider trading, but from the long-term outlook for patented, exclusive medical therapies.

    There's a large, general outrage at the overall cost of medical treatment and within specific socioeconomic groups HUGE outrage at the cost of perscription medicines. It's not felt (as much) by the middle class due to their generally good, employer-provided medical coverage.

    However, I predict a time in the next 20 years when the cost of medical treatment across the board (doctors, hospitals, medicines, and so on) will be so high that political pressure will be brought to bear to severely regulate the costs associated with medical treatments if not to begin socializing medicine.

    What's this got to do with biotech careers? Biotech right now is hot as a sector because of the promise of developing amazing new treatments that are proprietary, patentable and licensable for HUGE profits. However the money will dry up quickly if government begins to socialize medicine.

    1. Re:Another biotech risk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, and we see how GREAT socialized medicine is in Canada:

      e.g. a ham handed surgeon tried to perform a relatively laproscopic procedure to remove a defective gall bladder, but while trying to do so manage to puncture the patient's aorta & stomach.
      End result patient has to be airlifted to London, resuscitated, and operated on for ~10hrs by a cardiovascular surgeon, who repairs the aorta. Following this the patient is in a coma, and has a high white cell count, have to open the patient up again, and find the punctured stomach. Patient still in coma, now coming in and out of it. (Happened about 3 mos. ago.)

      You get what ya pay for. And this is NOT the first time that things like this have happened in recent years, and is also fairly common across the longer term record as well...

    2. Re:Another biotech risk by swb · · Score: 2

      I'm not advocating socialized medicine. Just pointing out that the perception of unchecked profiteering by the medical industry will eventually lead to a great socialization of medicine, which will in turn limit the appeal of investing huge amounts of capital when the ROI is either eliminated or stretched into 20 years instead of 5 or 10.

      I think most people agree that something needs to be done to reign in medical costs -- whether its on the demand side (people learn to live with limited treatments) or on the supply side (regulated margins, less profit).

      I'd personally advocate structural changes to the medical realm -- give RNs and Nurse Practitioners much broader ability to actually practice medicine, such as the ability to do in-office medical procedures like mole removal, stitches and the ability to write perscriptions for a broad array of drugs.

      There's room for all sides to move -- drug companies ARE guilty of gouging and anticompetitive behavior. Patients are guilty of cost-is-no-limit expectations for medical care. Doctors are guilty of holding the practice of medicine hostage to their professional and financial gain.

  108. Re:.NET === XML by smagruder · · Score: 2

    Well, XML and SOAP are the basis for the web services component of .NET, but .NET is also MS' too-late, feeble (bound to be low-quality before multiple service packs) attempt at creating an OO API for Windows that (supposedly) is easily accessible by any language (that is, any language compilable to their .NET IL; MS is foisting C#).

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  109. Computer Games by EpsCylonB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The computer game industry is worht more than the film industry worldwide, it is predicted that it will grow year on year for the next five and there is a specific lack of people who have experience or specific training (cause none really exists).

    Downsides are that it is very competitive, only 10% of games released make money. It is very difficult to make headway in the industry unless you work for a publisher or a well established software house.

    1. Re:Computer Games by Tazzy531 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, I've heard it is a VERY difficult field to get into. You either have to know someone in the industry or proven yourself. I talked to one of the recruiters at EA Games and they actually scout the online community forums for people that have modded games and have been successful at doing so.

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  110. Mobile Robotics: The Next Revolution by Louis+Savain · · Score: 2
  111. Haven't you heard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all ball bearings these days!

  112. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe he is doing what he likes: chasing buzzwords.

  113. Re:.NET === XML by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2



    XML solves some problems that CDF doesn't, like validation and extensibility. I can add a new field to an XML file without it affecting the receiver, try that with CDF ant the receiver gets very confused.

    Then there are all the support facilities like SOAP and so on. They let me write a server like:

    public class Adder {

    public int sub(int a, int b) {
    return a+b;
    }

    }

    Drop that source code in a web service enabled application server and I can send a message to it uusing any SOAP cleint and get my sum back.

    Try that with CDF.

  114. Security by daemonslayer · · Score: 1
    The events of September 11 have made everyone realize how important security is. The federal government is spending billions of dollars on homeland security and so there are going to be a fair number of government contracts.

    Even things that don't work like facial recognition at airports will get a lot of money.

  115. Re: dressing for the interview by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    Yeah, honestly, the "appropriate" dress for an interview is always something I struggle with.

    The best advice I ever got (from a recruiter) is to try to take a look at how their own people dress, in advance - and copy their style.

    (If, for example, you see most of the employees dressing casually - with only management in a suit and tie, then you're probably fine just dressing up with a plain shirt and tie, and no suit. That is, unless you're applying for one of those management positions.)

    Much depends on the age of the people interviewing you, IMHO. I've been to places where the dress was quite casual - but the management was made up of older people who expected that all interviewees would show up in a suit and tie, and freshly polished dress shoes. Anything less told them you weren't the type who "goes the extra mile" to make a good impression, and that was a negative.

  116. I wouldn't believe that article - too much hype by hackman · · Score: 2

    I'm a mobile robotics person. That report sounds fishy to me. Sure the robotics people (Activmedia and MIT) are going to hype robotics as being the big thing in 5 years, they have a vested interest in that happening. I think they have been saying very similar things for at least 10 years, and as of yet there are very few mobile robotic household equipment. Sure, the solar lawnmower and indoor vaccum cleaner robots are around but I've never met anyone who was seriously interested in something like this. Sony has some of the new "entertainment" robots that are the closest thing, but they are still way expensive and not very useful.

    I mean really, listen to the tone of this quote:
    " In the next three to five years, intelligent networked mobile platforms and manipulators will permeate the fabric of our society just as computers do today."

    Be wary of anyone advertising to know the future, especially when they predict enormous growth in their own sector of buisness.

    That said, I do think there is a good future in mobile robotics in general, but if you're looking for "hot" jobs right now it's ridiculous to look for opportunities in that industry. I've yet to hear of a company aside from military robotics, Activmedia, or iRobot that needs genuine mobile robotics people. Sure there are AGVs (Automated Guided Vehicles) for factories and such, but that technology is so large that I don't think it stands a chance in the home market. (Maybe their software would be helpful though?).

    Well, my $.02.

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  117. This is not the first technology slump by Orangedog_on_crack · · Score: 2
    Technology and the jobs that it creates has always been subject to boom and bust times. Examples:

    Railroads....not really high tech by todays standards, but it was once "the next big thing." Once there were a lot of railroad companies, then the bottom fell out. A lot of them went away, and a lot of jobs with them. The strong companies survived and went on.

    Automobiles...there were once dozens of car companies in the US. Now there are but a handful, but those companies provide tens of thousands of jobs, many of them very high-skilled.

    Calculators...The calculator revolution in the 1970's popped up after Intel produced, almost accidentally, the first microprocessor. Initially it was just going to be a calculator-on-a-chip, but later they realized just what they had produced was more than just something that they hoped one manufacturer would use to make calculators. The calculator business grew very big, very fast, and crashed about as quickly.

    There is something, skill-wise, in each of those times that workers were able to adapt for later use. Just give it some time and you will notice the door opening for the next opportunity, even though they all appear to be closed for good right now.

  118. ERP and CRM seems to be a hot ticket too.... by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    I've been scanning the job postings on Monster.com and other sites, and one thing that comes up repeatedly is a need for JD Edwards or PeopleSoft administrators (with experience), or administrators for CRM (Customer Relations Management) packages.

    Personally, I think both of these types of software packages are just "fads" right now - but they cost so much for corporations to implement that they easily justify hiring an additional person to keep them running.

    If you're one of the few people lucky enough to have received some training (or hands-on experience designing forms or supporting) either ERP or CRM software, you're missing out right now if you don't leverage it to get a good-paying I.T. job for the next couple years. After that though, don't be surprised if this stuff fades away again.

  119. Ideas (good ones!) by smagruder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1. Local and state law enforcement agencies out there need a really good, common, mobile and intercommunicating records management system. There's nothing on the market today that's close to being decent.
    2. Someone needs to solve the problem of "a different data collection/review/production system in every shop". This area needs standards (based on best practices) like a newly birthed baby needs oxygen. Yes, this solution will put many crap consultants out of business, but at least you'll get their money and can laugh all the way to the bank. Also helps the overall economy like a mofo.
    3. Somebody needs to write a really good P2P mechanism for collaboration on document/code review.

    My personal hope is that all the above will be developed as open source projects, but certainly, a good programming group with drive could make some very good money off these ideas as well.

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    Steve Magruder, Metro Foodist
    1. Re:Ideas (good ones!) by rimhoffd · · Score: 1

      on the subject of law enforcement, what about computer foresnic's (sp?) if you have an AA/AS or better, you just dump 6months into a criminal justice degree, and you can go to gov, or local law to chase online freaks n' sort

    2. Re:Ideas (good ones!) by smagruder · · Score: 2

      Thanks for your remark. It illustrates the point that many programmers are seemingly too willing to only chase the "sexy" or buzz-y side of software development. Law enforcement very much needs basic records management to cover the meat n' potatoes of their operations. Sounds boring, yes, but only on the surface. Does anyone realize that law enforcement agencies, for the most part, have highly inadequate systems for tracking perp aliases? This is a major chunk of these records mgmt systems.

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  120. Best job security by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    My grandfather once told me:

    "Be an undertaker, kid. No matter how bad things get, you will always have customers."

    1. Re:Best job security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hrm. How about the undertaker for the digital age? Something to set you apart from the competition. Virtual tours of your final resting place.

  121. Lets assume the Computer is a sphere... by MadCow-ard · · Score: 1

    And the Job market is also a sphere. Then if: dQ/dtA = -k(dT/dx) and k is positive... voila!

    1. Re:Lets assume the Computer is a sphere... by alcibiades · · Score: 1

      He said Thermodynamics. There is no t in that.

    2. Re:Lets assume the Computer is a sphere... by guybarr · · Score: 1

      not in equilibrium Thermodynamics

      but there is time in Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics ... in a "cruel and unusual punishment" manner.

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  122. Re:SNIF by fferreres · · Score: 2

    Buzzzt! Guess again NOT. Most things sell "by the trend". A lot of people made money programing Java when it was hotest, a lot of contractors will make huge revenues from companies adopting .net.

    The other day i was in a meeting with some CEO of a programming firm with many clients. What they do i follow the TREND. He claimed that ".net will require a lot of $$$ from companies adopting it, and that (they) will be ready for it! Huge profits to be made".

    Believe me, you can make lots of money by just following the trend. Companies will adopt .net because their contractors or programming department will tell them they need it. And Microsoft will be leveraging their "hard earned" 40B plus their monopoly to make sure the argument wins.

    This is just an example. The trend make you eat extra food. On the other hard, you have someone like me, which tries to make sense out of this. End result: they make money and do not help producitivity. I don't make much money and do save money. Yet, they are the heros during the "revolution" and they only care about me when they want to "cut costs".

    It's really simple:

    STEP 1: adopt whatever crap is on the IT mindshare at the moment. Adopt it fast and act as you believe it's true
    STEP 2: PROFIT
    STEP 3: PROFIT

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  123. Re:.NET === XML by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* The reading side can undunk it and process. Tab delimited stinks at this. *)

    I agree that delimited formats needed a few more protocols to make them more robust, such as a header, but unless something is heavily nested, delimited works quite well.

    Do you have a specific problem with delimited formats that you can describe?

    I am not saying that it is superior to XML, but XML is only an incrimental improvement at best. Not something to bet the farm on. Besides, XML is warmed-over static LISP by some accounts, and LISP existed in the 50's.

    Fat ties will be back in style if you hold onto them long enuf.

  124. Fibre Channel industry by levendis · · Score: 2

    I'm suprised no one mentioned yet... but the Fibre Channel industry is one of the few segments of the computer industry that is actually growing these days. (see here). Storage in general will probably grow (or at least not significantly decline) for a long, long time. A quick search on Monster shows a lot of jobs out there.

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  125. Re:.NET === XML by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* I can add a new field to an XML file without it affecting the receiver, try that with CDF ant the receiver gets very confused.*)

    No, just add it onto the end. How is the receiver not being able to handle more stuff at the end different than an XML reader not being able to handle a new tag? That is a bad reader, not a bad format.

    I will agree that removing a field in XML is a little easier, but delimited format is already more compact, so you are still ahead size-wise if you leave an empty place-holder.

    (* Drop that source code in a web service enabled application server and I can send a message to it uusing any SOAP cleint and get my sum back. Try that with CDF. *)

    Send: 2, "+", 3

    Receive: 5

    Next!

  126. nano tech by jerek · · Score: 1

    Nano is BIG, or it will be. The question is, how many will it employ? As Bucky Fuller noted many years ago, mankind has an ever increasing ability to produce more and more, with ever less human labour. Everything we could possibly need, free or very cheap. I don't know what implications it all has for capitalism though...

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    1. Re:nano tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent! You are almost ready to face the ultimate paradox of our western God-Bless-Amerikka culture!

      OF COURSE machines can do all the work and 90% of people are employed in bogus make-work employment! OF COURSE we could live on 10 hours work a week and have every basic need taken care of!

      So what do we do? Create bogus needs, create false problems so we can solve them with more problem-creating solutions. University McEducation required for even basic jobs, and you garantee employment for teachers, sell books every six months, get people into debt so they become good, docile workers, get them to marry and buy a house, so they have a gun on the head and a vise around the scrotum.

      Who needs soma when you have religion, TV and the Olsen twins?

  127. Re:I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a j by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* But in general I think Net Admins, being somewhat the "Jack of all trades" of the industry, have a better chance of staying employed or regaining employment quickly than the "specialists." *)

    That is what all those Novell guys used to say.

    Anyhow, what I predict is *remote* admin of networks. A hardware person might visit every week or so, but the rest will be done in network sweat-shops in India or China.

    "If you can digitize it, we can outsource it!"

  128. What's really heating up... by thanasakis · · Score: 1

    ...is the defence industry. It is crystal clear that the western world is preparing for a war with anybody that will stand in the way of the new order. And this war is going to be done on land,sea,air and most importantly, space. If you want to know what the next hot buzzword will be, I say war.Unfortunately, killing people has always been one of the most profitable jobs around.

    1. Re:What's really heating up... by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      (* It is crystal clear that the western world is preparing for a war with anybody that will stand in the way of the new order. *)

      Um, what and where is the "old order"?

  129. Digital Rights Management by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 2

    DRM is probably one of the hottest, most relevant areas of the tech industry right now.

    Scary, ain't it?

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  130. Future breakthroughs by phlawed · · Score: 1

    Imagine where mankind will be within 10-20-30-40 years.
    Then figure out the tech required to get us there, and how it will create new "needs".

    Some examples of where I think we're going:
    We'll go to Mars.
    Papermoney is going the way of the dodo.
    Personal videophones.
    Broadband access everywhere.
    Asia will be the economic and cultural centre.
    Pollution will be a severe problem.
    Gene tech.

    New technologies/problems
    - Power generation. (personal. distributed.)
    - New solutions to "the last mile" problem.
    - Nanotech (nanotech appears to be a reality already)
    - High bandwidth radiocommunications.
    - Crypto
    - Data mining
    - Language barriers

    Make your own predictions.
    Or see:
    http://www.bt.com/sphere/insights/pearson/in dex.ht m

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    Dag B
  131. it's simple by j1mmy · · Score: 1

    what's hot is not technology, it's applied technology. forget wireless, forget networking, forget systems, forget anything purely tech. look into science, medicine, engineering, etc. -- fields that produce something tangible that both investors and the general public can latch on to.

  132. Re:I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a j by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    never happen kid.
    people like people to be there for their problems and not recorded messages or
    unanswered emails, no matter the outcome.
    This combined with the fact that to most management and end users technology seems magical enough without remote fairy folk waving magic wands at their problems. There will always be space for a network/systems "guy" on staff.

  133. Re:I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a j by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a network administrator with 6 certifications,4 yrs experience and
    the ability to program in C, tcl/tk, the
    shell/awk/sed, ad-nauseam.
    I quit my job due to circumstances above
    and beyond the call of duty.

    Now it does not look like there will be
    another for a while. TS/SCI cleared individuals are being snatched up here in this area however.

  134. Markup by frisket · · Score: 1

    If you want to branch out, learn markup (XML, XSL, etc) thoroughly. You'll need to make a few mental gear changes, as it's not what programmers expect, but with the big swing towards using it as the de facto common carrier for machine-to-machine interchange, there are still a lot of systems need programming to accept it.

    1. Re:Markup by Pathetic+Coward · · Score: 1

      XML? That's being outsourced to India.

  135. Try by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 1

    Nanotectonics

  136. Re:.NET === XML by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

    How is the receiver not being able to handle more stuff at the end different than an XML reader not being able to handle a new tag?

    My first programming job included maintaining a perl script that processed a database table. The table had 97 data fields; the original programmer didn't know that he could extract the data into a hash, and reference the data using hash keys that matched the field names. The result was code that read something like:

    $price = $row[17]*[$row[72]* sqrt($row[12] )

    this meant a) the code was totally unreadable, and b) the only place you could add a field to the database was at the end. This is exactly the kind of programming structure that your CDF proposal leads to. If I were you I would worry that when I died and went to hell I might have to work on code like that.

    Send: 2, "+", 3

    Receive: 5


    Where is the data typing that tells the server that you didn't mean to call add(string,string) and get 23?

  137. Re:Um... by hendridm · · Score: 1

    > it would probably be a mistake to jump on a buzzword then end up doing something that sucks.

    At this point, I would rather work at a tolerable job I am unhappy with than be unemployed.

  138. Re:Um... by hendridm · · Score: 1

    > Lord knows if I were hiring someone, I would rather have someone that liked doing the job they were being interviewed for...

    Well, let me know when you are an employer. In the meantime, I'm going to try to bail my unemployed ass out of this dead-end industry...

    So many years wasted.

  139. A better question... by hendridm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where can I get an IT job in the U.S.? Anyone? I have applied for EVERYTHING here in the Midwest (meaning ALL IT jobs I've come across and anything else in the newspaper, even bank tellers, secretary positions, retail stores (damn college degree), and I can't get anything).

    I'm quite aware the Midwest is years behind the rest of the planet in everything except antique automotive storage techniques, but I am willing to relocate. Where should I go?

    1. Re:A better question... by GriffX · · Score: 3, Informative

      DC area. The tech firms (and the wind-down of the last administration) burned off a LOT of people in all sectors. Housing is, if not cheap, getting plentiful again, and I'm seeing many more jobs advertised than I was even six months ago. When I got roundfiled by a tech company right after 9/11, it took me about 4 months to find a job. Now I'm doing exactly what I did there - web design and graphics - full time for a university here in town. There are jobs out there.

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      These comments and opinions are mine and mine alone, although they shouldn't be.
    2. Re:A better question... by Maskirovka · · Score: 3, Informative
      Where can I get an IT job in the U.S.?

      Juneau or Anchorage Alaska. The state gov is almost always hiring tech workers (esp programers), and there's loads of private sector work too. The cost of living is a bit high though. Just my two cents.

      Here are some links:
      http://classifieds.juneauempire.com/classi fieds-bi n/classifieds?portal=&temp_type=detail&property=JU NEAU+AK&classification=EMPLOYMENT&maxrec=30&date=t oday
      http://notes3.state.ak.us/WA/postapps.nsf/Jo bsByTi tle?OpenView

      Maskirovka

    3. Re:A better question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dang, if you applied to all jobs and got nothing you are probably stupid. Who would wanna hire a stupid guy.

      Seriously though, calm down, take a breath I was just messin with ya, your probably going to have to MOVE to where the jobs are.

  140. Side industries also Re:Defense is way up by kbs · · Score: 1

    Not only is the direct military application area going to be hot these few years, but any of the incidentals... including internal and external espionage, signal processing, information crunching, profiling, and any other vaguely morally objectionable fields that use technology to get around due process... these are the fields that are in the process of receiving huge amounts of research money. At some point the companies doing this research will want to expand away from government projects, and I can guarantee that the information gathering and privacy invading technologies will be rather sought after by marketing firms and such.

    -k

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    kbs
  141. Wrong question by evilpenguin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see that others share my sentiment about this. The question is the wrong question. Learn and master the fundmentals. If you are into hardware, learn your electrical engineering. Master it. If it is software, learn the fundamentals of programming, systems design, algorithms, threading, etc. Learn a few fundamental languages (for the *nix world I'd say C, C++, Java, perl, shells, and then maybe some others that extend your world-view, such as lisp, scheme, and smalltalk). Learn how to express solutions for common problems in each of these languages.

    I see so many programmers coming up these days whom I describe as "tool-junkies." They are programmers who know how to solve problems with one library collection, one integrated compiler suite, and nothing else (and, yes, I am referring mainly to Visual Studio, but there is a Java "tool-junkie" culture too -- Java programmers who can't work outside of their only IDE).

    If you find yourself using a library without the slightest inkling of what must be happening in that library it should send warning flags up in your head. You should be able to write anything any other programmer could write. If you can't imagine how to even begin, you may be a tool-junkie. (Note that I am not saying you would have to write it as well as any other programmer -- obviously skills vary -- but you should have some idea how to tackle the problem, because you should have seen and solved something like it before. Genuinely new techniques are extremely rare. For the most part in programming you are making a symphony of familiar tropes, not breaking new ground.)

    Learn fundamentals, not buzzwords, and maybe you won't find yourself looking for another job involuntarily.

    1. Re:Wrong question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are talking dangerous unAmerican nonsense. How else will you justify the thousands of universities dispensing these courses, giving jobs to teachers and selling books every six months?

      Of COURSE you need 5 years' study and a Master's degree to write a few lines of code that will be useless in a year because everything has changed!

      Imagine if everything just did what it had to. 90% of people would be out of a job overnight.

      What do you do? Create a society where poeple only need to work 10 hours a week and get every basic need taken care of, and allow people to pursue their own interests, or create a society based on fashion-like cycles in technology, garanteeing employment for all, but meaning for no one?

    2. Re:Wrong question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn I like this guy's thinking. Let's face it. The tech industry in America will never rebound like to the level it was. Have you seen what some of those programmers can do in India, and other nations for a fraction of the cost. Those industries are going to boom until somebody else finds a cheaper alternative. It's simple, if you can get work done abroad that's comparable to what you can get done here at a fraction of the cost there's no reason that you shouldn't do it. That's capitalism... The writers of the Self-Destruction Thesis (Marx and Weber) are almost right. Weber believed that the protestant values would kept Capitalism afloat, and once those were gone we'd have nothing. Although we have created our own culture based on our capitalist values, we have yet to set bound on that such as keeping some of the work, regardless of the cost on the homeland. Why should we do this? We are in the business sense... utilitarians. A true utilitarian looks out for the greatest good for the greatest number. But a rational actor is selfish looking out only for himself. Smith states that we will be moved by the invisible hand to do what's best for society... basically acting as rational actors, but I don't always think this is the case. As prisoners dilemma has shown... rational actors and make irrational decisions, and the idea that people in the tech industry should make so much money vs other industries (supply and demand taken into account) is insane and irrational. By acting as rational actors people in the industry have made it such that the industry as suffered on the whole, ultimatly this isn't a rational choice. Possibly we can learn from this mistake in the future, but my prediction is that we will not. This has all been proven by the current behavior of the market. We are currently adjusting (the dot com bubble has burst)... and from now on the tech market will be just like any other. The united states has to be competitive with other nations in a global economy. We can't just set our prices higher than anybody elses and expect to continue to get business. The markets will adjust, and we will adapt. When that happens, we will be successfull again.

    3. Re:Wrong question by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

      Hrm. Trotting out a series of philosophers and their worthy quotes doesn't a cogent argument make. I'm not sure what your point is here.

      I think that all the dot-com bubble bursting proves is that the tech market always was like any other market. You know what? There is still huge demand for technical professionals with good fundamental skills. HTML/Javascript hackers, not so much. But people who can use software to engineer solutions to real business problems are still very much in demand. HTML and Javascript are actually still in demand, but those skills alone don't command 6-figure salaries any more. So what? They never should have. The invisible hand worked.

      The dot-com bubble was tens of thousands of companies all in essence producing the same product. I don't think it took a rocket scientist to see that wasn't going to continue. I know I heard many people saying so the whole time it was happenning.

      You know what, though? The "new economy" is still very much alive. The "hot" dot-com technologies are having their real effect in how "real" businesses organize themselves. Web technology's real economic impact is coming from enhancing the efficiency of business processes, just as all computer technology has from day one. It is all about more, faster, better, cheaper, and with less waste.

      As for the drying up of the job market, sure, in No. Cal. there are queues of goateed unemployed programmers in designer sunglasses, but in the rest of the industry (and believe it or not, most of the jobs are outside Silicon Valley) the big fall-off in hiring followed Sept. 11, not the inevitable dot-com bubble. The only way in which that tragedy affected me was the disapperence of that sock-puppet dog (I thought it was funny).

      Furthermore, I don't think some sort of "nationalistic" policy is the way to keep tech jobs. If they can be better done in India, they should be done in India. They might want to deal with that whole nuclear war thing first, however. Companies I work with have curtailed outsourcing plans to the subcontinent.

      You left out an important thinker in your analysis: You ignored Keynes. Marx and Engels were living through the worst period of industrialization. A period of disequilibrium between the power of the bourgeois and the proliteriat. In industrial democracies, the public will is still consulted through democratic institutions (and, yes, I believe corporate money is distorting that process, but it can only go so far before voters actually do vote). I think Keynes' writing is the prism through which to view the present situation.

      Moreover, "cost" is not the only component of "price." "Quality" enters in to it. The key to retaining a tech sector lead is to retain the educational and technological edge. As far as I can tell, we haven't lost that even yet, due, in no small part, to the infrastructure problems that exist in some of the other economies that seek to enter the tech economy.

      I'm not sure, however, that there is anything to fear in programming shifting overseas. Some will. Some should. I think it is worthwhile to read two of Edward Yourdon's books: "Decline & Fall of the American Programmer" and "Rise & Resurrection of the American Programmer" where he completely reverses the thesis of his first book. You will see that we've been here before and that the obvious conclusions are not necessarily the correct ones.

      I, as an American Programmer, do not fear for my future emplyment or employability. I also welcome the participation of the rest of the world in the market of software ideas.

  142. +5 Insightful? Idiots! by Enigma2175 · · Score: 2

    You moderators are idiots. This is a news story printed in Business Week Magazine last december. Didn't it read more like a press piece than a /. comment? User 956 is not an insightful poster, he is a blatant plagarist. 4 moderators were either stupid or naive enough to believe that he was insightful when he posted this comment. Please, think before you moderate. I know I will get modded down for this* but I just had to say something.

    *Standard 'I know I'll get modded down' to ensure that I get modded up

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  143. See if you catch this one... by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1

    There are amazing emerging technologies out there. The most recent is the semiconductor diode, an area of continuing study. But you'll probably want to get involved in emerging circuitry for AM radios. This will allow such things as stereophonic broadcasts on the AM band. To quote from a recent magazine, "Circuits will have to be designed to increase the bandwidth and cut the distortion, as well as to encode and decode the stereo information, in AM transmitters and receivers." (Electronic Design, May 27, 2002, page 26 "Flashback")

    Analysts estimate that this technology will emerge as the most profitable market in the technology sector since the invention of the light bulb and the Negra Modelo bottling machine.

    Ooooooooooh well.

  144. Grid Computing is hot... by tellurian · · Score: 0

    just check out the all the latest buzz about it at www.thegridreport.com

  145. funny too? by cpeterso · · Score: 1


    I do not think "Funny" mods are subject to metamoderation. Is this true?

  146. Re:Hmm... by User+956 · · Score: 1

    Excuse me, did it occur to you that I wrote the article?

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  147. Work on more than your technical skills by flockofseagulls · · Score: 2, Informative

    The jobs are there but you have to work at finding them and getting one. Standing out solely on technical qualifications can be tough if you don't have 10 or more years real experience, so be the candidate they remember. Be polite, easy to talk to, interested, curious, eager.

    I can't emphasize writing and speaking and good manners enough. If you come across as illiterate, uncomfortable, or socially handicapped (as so many geeks do), you are handicapped in the job market. The last time I interviewed candidates for a mid-level programmer job we had candidates show up unwashed, in skateboarder clothes; we had candidates who seemed uneasy around other humans; we had candidates who mumbled "I guess" and "I mean" and "You know what I'm saying" every few words, as if they had speech lessons from Eminem; we had candidates launch into scary (and irrelevant) anti-Microsoft or anti-Linux tirades that made us hope they weren't armed; we had candidates who obviously devoted too much time to body piercing and not enough to reading our job description.

    Learn to write. Read outside your discipline. Practice speaking, composing your thoughts, talking to a group. Practice problem-solving skills. Practice debugging--SourceForge is overflowing with opportunities for working on real code. Don't wait to learn on-the-job: spend some time every day learning something new. Use Borders as a library with coffee.

    Learn something about the businesses and industries that might hire you. Learn a little about accounting, inventory, logistics, sales, marketing, manufacturing, publishing, etc., so at least you know what the jargon means and what questions make sense.

    Learn databases and SQL. Learn them really well. It takes a while but you have to start sometime. Most companies have databases old enough to have seen many industry trends come and go.

    When job hunting you'll be competing with people who have the same stuff on their resume as you do, more or less. Stand out by presenting yourself well. Show some ability to string two thoughts together. Show enthusiasm about solving problems, debugging skanky old code, working as part of a team.

    Job hunting is not like taking tests in school where the best student ranks at the top of their class. Employers usually make up their mind about you in the first few minutes (or first few seconds if you smell bad, dress like a slacker, or display poor manners). Take 20 Java programmers with equivalent experience and certifications and the one who makes the interviewers believe he will fit in will get the job.

    Join a user's group, go to trade shows, network. Ask people you know who have jobs what kind of people their company needs. Get names of skilled recruiters and work with them--they aren't all dishonest scumbags. If you have time do volunteer work--you can meet people who can point you at full-time jobs.

    The short-term bubble that burst and put so many techies on the street persuaded too many of them that growing unusual facial hair and learning Flash would set them up for a lifetime, or at least get them in a Volkswagen commercial. Sorry to break it to you, but employers have sobered up now.

    Good luck.

  148. Re:Bio-informatics by genesplicer · · Score: 1

    Speaking from personal experience (at a company which develops software to run on it's own sequencing platform), in biotech, it's worth trying to be either 1) a good scientist who can communicate with the programmers or 2) a good programmer who can communicate with the scientists. I saw more wasted time/dollars fly by on projects simply because those of us in the science department couldn't communicate effectively with the coders in the software department. Not to mention the animosity that can develop between the equally large egos in both camps.

    It seems that bio-informatics as a discipline is still a difficult gamble. There is trouble in defining what it should be or do while big pharma just throws money at it in the hopes that it will pay off. The best bio-informatics arenas, IMHO, to be right now are either 1) clusters that are running folding or molecular (ie. drug-to-target) interaction simulations or 2) developing data collection (or other) apps for instrumentation (ie. sequencing platforms, HPLC, MS, robotics, etc.) ... Just from strictly personal opinions, of course.

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  149. Web Services and Related Infrastructure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    XML, SOAP (aka XML Protocol), WSDL (or something like it), UDDI (or something like it) are the place to start. Still an immature area so there will be more acronyms to "learn" in the future. Still a lot of "infrastructure" pieces needed for success and wide adoption.

    Also sure to be hot and somewhat related is the Semantic Web. In many ways this is the way the Web should already be.

  150. also include... by bubbha · · Score: 1

    ...knowlege of data warehousing and database performance issues including query optimization...because the databases are so large.

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  151. online education by Jano-r · · Score: 1

    Education is going online. MIT is pioneering this trend with OpenCourseWare, which aims to make all course materials available on the Web, free of charge.

    Why is it important? Because it will turn the joke "Try finding some porn on the net (if you fail kill yourself inmediately)" into "Try finding some info about -your asignature here- (if you fail..)". And this is not just about "free information", it's a better way of learning.

    Example: Have you ever been in class with 50 students writing down nearly identical notes? how often did you find enlightment there? I believe everyone should be able to learn at his own pace. That means grabbing the info, studying it, and then spending class time in a more valuable way. Plus it's more rewarding when you are in control of your own learning process.

    Anyway, the opportunity is writing software to manage and play with that information. I'll give you an example..

    Right now Im having fun feeding a chatterbot with my papers (just a matter of xml+xsl=aiml) so any student can go to my page and just say:

    guest> okay. So, tell me again about the C# pointers
    bot> ok, what you wanna know?
    guest> Well, pointers are legal there, right?
    bot> Yeah, it's legal, but is ain't a hundred percent legal. I mean you just can't..

    More valuable examples are left as an exercise for the reader.

  152. Well, maybe not trends, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try COBOL, Linux/390 and/or Unix Systems Services on z/OS on S/390 boxes. COBOL because there's still a _lot_ of code out there; the other two because IBM and some of their customers believe in the consolidate-servers-on-big-iron theory. Getting into z/OS may have other advantages: people with systems progamming (install software and customize it, writing exit routines as necessary, and doing system admin work; in case that term is new) skills like me are retiring or don't have long to go. The industry will have a shortage of those skills pretty soon. Go to SHARE (http:\www.share.org) to find an organization of many companies with IBM technologies. While the canons of SHARE prevent recruiting/hiring practices while at the conference you can get an idea of what's going on, for sure - and at one time I know they were having discussions about what to do about the upcoming shortage.

  153. 'Hot' or a steady job? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, the average mainframe programmer is 55 years old,and nearly all major companies use IBM's z/OS (OS/390, MVS) for their major applications. The career opportunities are terrific. You don't even have to learn COBOL because modern mainframes run Linux, Web servers, etc. They have I/O bandwidth to die for, and they don't run anything made in Redmond. You could do worse.

  154. Bloom County's advice... by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 1
    "Plastics?"

    "Handguns. Disposable handguns."

  155. Re:.NET === XML by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* The result was code that read something like:
    $price = $row[17]*[$row[72]* sqrt($row[12] ) *)

    First of all, don't process it directly from the storage format. Make a translation table so that you *don't* have numbers in the code. You may have to do similar translations between XML field names and your own names anyhow, since the chances of them matching up 100 percent is probably nil unless you are starting from scratch.

    (* Where is the data typing that tells the server that you didn't mean to call add(string,string) and get 23? *)

    Put those rules in the table also. If you don't have a table-friendly language/environment, then I pitty you.

  156. Re:Um... by archen · · Score: 1

    one word... Cobal (wide margin for tolerable there though)

  157. Re:I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a j by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* never happen kid. people like people to be there for their problems and not recorded messages or unanswered emails, no matter the outcome. *)

    Tell that to all the programmers *currently* losing jobs to India and China "outsourcers".

    I am not saying that *all* will go, but even if 40 percent go, there would be a *glut* that may last a while.

  158. Drug prices, and theraputic availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a law of unintended consquences about to play out in a really nasty way, and those beating the prescription drug price drums are the ones in the driver seat. Laws of unintended consequences are the nasty remanent to an otherwise well intentioned (but quite short sighted and singularly focussed) effort to alleviate a problem. The issue is that this one is going to cause far more and more painful problems than it will solve.

    Here is the issue.

    The sole reason that a pharma or a biotech is in business is to make profit. This means that they need to have an economic incentive to be in the game. If you think (quite incorrectly) that the government can do better at this, just ask the Russians who lived during the glory days of the workers paradise whether they preferred taking the theraputics created by their comrades, or those of the "corrupt" western regimes? The answer is interesting.

    Short answer is that the Russian pharmas didnt have a process to go through like we have in the US to bring a drug to market. Many people died due to poor quality control, limited efficacy/dosing/tox studies, and so forth. As there was no profit motive for these people, they followed the maxim "you pretend to pay us, we pretend to work." Sho-nuff... people died from toxic medication.

    Not all of it was bad, but there were some real doozies. Actually some antifungal stuff came out that was pretty good, but that appears to be more the exception than the rule.

    And remember, there were strict price controls in place on the theraputics. Cant charge $3/pill. So the pharma couldnt make money. So the stuff rarely worked.

    Is that a chill going up your spine?

    I hope so.

    When you take the profit motive away from these businesses, something interesting is going to happen. It has been demonstrated time and again where industries are socialized.

    They become horribly inefficient, turning out poor product of limited selection.

    Ask many of the Canadian's streaming across the border to pay for medical care out of their own pockets rather than use their own socialized system. Why are they doing it? If the socialized version of medicine worked so well, wouldnt the flow be the other direction?

    So here we are with no more profit in drugs. Some interesting (unintended) side affects result. They include:

    1) no more limited use medicine (also called Orphan Drugs). Companies make these in part because the government gives tax and other incentives to the pharmas. No profits, no incentives. You or a loved one has a rare form of a disease, well, you are shit out of luck now. Why? Well in part because the profits from the blockbuster drugs (viagra) help amortize the cost of those that do not make much money, but are developed (at huge cost) anyway. Clinical trials are not cheap.

    2) fewer theraputics in pipeline. Clinicals cost money. Lots of money. 40% of the 800M$ pre-marketing budget for a promising theraputic. This is not chump change. You take away the profit motive, you now have a severely constrained zero sum game. You now have a much smaller bag of money to fund clinicals. And you know the gub'ment sure aint gonna relax (and they should not!!!) the regulations surrounding clinicals.

    3) far fewer pharmas. Profit motive is history, an d who is left? The generics folks dont need to fund clinicals, R&D, etc. Not to knock them (they have a valid existance and rationale for their work, as the patents are supposed to give a fixed time monopoly). There will be fewer generics companies as well. There are about 25 pharmas today. About 3000 biotechs. With 0 profit, I could see the number of biotechs dropping precipitously. I could see the number of pharmas dropping to single digits. Low single digits. Look what happened in the airplane industry when profit was effectively removed. You have consolidation, and effectively a single or duo government contractor. No longer any real competition, hence the products can and do suck.

    Don't think I am a shill for the pharma's. I hate having to pay $200 for a 2 month supply of Prilosec. But then again, I know that if I didnt, when I need a new theraputic in the future, it sure as hell would not be there.

    Yeah, some in the industries trade groups will try to scare you. I am not in this industry, I do not discover drugs. I do help build computers that do. You take away these profits from these guys, and a whole helluvalotta people like me are going to start looking for new work. This has yet another unintended side effect, as the supply of new labor increases without demand increasing, the cost for this labor (e.g. what a company will be willing to pay in salary/benefits) drops. We are seeing that today with the people looking for work in the middle of this theoretically getting better economy.

    There are a lot of people working in this industry. They are there to make money. Without that motive, what are they going to do?

    Price controls on drugs are as stupid as price controls on medical care. This is truly an industry in which you get exactly what you pay for.

    If you need a mechanism to deal with a large population of limited means to get the medications and healthcare they need, you can do that at the regional and national level. And there will not be as nasty unintended consequences. The moment the profit motive vanishes, you invite all manner of unintended side affects.

    Until medicines can be designed for you and your illness (haplotyping, genotyping, etc) at a personalized level, and done safely in mass scale, you will likely have to simply bite the bullet.

    The best way to lower prices BTW is to introduce more competition, to make the R&D process more efficient. It is really hard to turn a bunch-o-wetlab people into a production line... research does not happen on a schedule.

    What should be done today is to stop any more pharma mergers. Large single entities are horribly inefficient. Tax and other incentives to work with other companies (smaller ones) should be given to encourage competition, cross fertilization, and so forth. The information about genomes, medicines, etc, should be shared and fully disclosed (IP is badly misued in this industry), and frankly, the patent system is in dire need of an overhaul. You can't patent life, there is prior art. But you can and should be able to patent molecules that you design to affect life, to a degree. This system is very badly abused now. It is broken, and it needs fixing. Moreover, companies should be encouraged (with appropriate tax abatements and so forth) to aid the problems of poor customers in need. This is the issue, not the cost. It often obscures the sociopolitical-economic circumstances of the groups affected.

    It is easy for a government with crappy policies to cry foul and lay blame for its citizens problems with a third party. It is hard to admit culpability. I havent seen it happen. I am not holding my breath on it. If politicians actually focussed on causitive effects rather than symptoms, problems may be fixed.

    For example, here in the US, some large fraction of seniors on social security have to chose between buying medicine, and eating or paying for their housing. The politicos immediately point the finger of blame at the cost of medicine. After all, $1200/month is quite a bit. Right? thats 14.4k$/year. So why not fix the problem, and not the symptom (a hopelessly broken medicaid/medicare system that pretends it is an HMO in terms of controlling its costs, yet rather significantly misses its mission). This is a solvable problem, one that can be solved, but it requires scrapping a non-working system for a simpler, transparent system that makes sure that people can get their needed medication, and do so without starving the person. Just requires leaning on the pharma's to take tax breaks from government held records of who got what rather than $$. Make it simple and transparent so that fraud, which plagues HUD and other to this day, cannot lurk here. Make it open, subject to review and full disclosure. None of this info is hidden.

    Solve the problem.

    Dont cut off your foot because you have a wart. Treat the wart (the causative affects) not just the symptoms, let the symptomatic be a side effect of the real solution.

    1. Re:Drug prices, and theraputic availability by e_nygma99 · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Coward, that was the shortest commentary I've seen yet on what is an exteremely complex problem.

      I believe the one issue sorely missing from your commentary is the one on Civil Litigation. This issue affects the entire health care industry from the pharmaceuticals to your primary care physician. Multi-million dollar lawsuits have added a significant burden to the health care industry, which in many cases, is resulting in a significant drop in professionals in the industry.

      While this doesn't affect the pharma/biotech industry as significantly as it does the providers--at least not in a visible manner, it still is a significant problem, which leads to longer development time for medicines due to the need for increased testing.

      Increased testing in and of itself is not necessarily a 'bad thing'; unless it is applied in a less than judicious manner. It's quite one thing to perform long term tests on an analgesic that causes liver damage in a high percentage of those it is administered to. However, to have the same testing period for an analgesic that causes stomach discomfort in a low percentage of those being administered the drug is a quite expensive, not to mention ludicrous behavior. Yet, we have only the courts who are *trying* to protect us to blame for this.

      The multi-million dollar lawsuits need to be more tightly regulated to prevent what is occuring in Pennsylvania and other states from becoming widespread. Many physicians here are shutting down their practices and moving away in order to avoid paying high malpractice premiums. Being a physician is as much a business as it is being a retail store. With the HMO/PPO industry dictating the cost of services rendered, and the Malpractice Insurance agencies charging high premiums due to high civil litigation payoffs, many physicians can no longer afford to be a physician and are quitting. The end result is fewer doctors available for treating patients in an area.

      I'm not advocating removal of civil litigation as a means of redress of grievances against those who are at fault, regardless of the reason. What I do advocate is *sensible* litigation. Save the high dollar awards for those people truly injured---be it disabled or dead--and make the awards truly indicitive of the fault of the physician/pharmaceutical company.

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      No matter where you go, there you are.
  159. Bioinformatics by bigfatlamer · · Score: 1

    Grab yourself a heaping helping of that gummint cheese. Bioinformaticians are in such huge demand right now that post-doc positions (routinely $26-32K for the first year in most other biology disciplines) are getting $60K+ in academic circles and $100K+ in industry.

    YMMV of course.

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    There's one thing computing teaches you, and that's that there's no point to remembering everything.
    --Doug Copland
  160. Voice over IP by franjime · · Score: 1

    Check out Slashdot -
    http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/16/0210237.sh tm l?tid=126

    Anything Voice over IP is very hot and will only be hotter over the next five years. Ask anyone if they think they will be still be buying a PBX or Key system in five years...

  161. here's an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No job and can code? - just sit home and write the next generation virus. The world needs new virus that destroy old systems so that people has to go out and buy new equipments and software.

    :-)

  162. Re:Bio-informatics by the+gnat · · Score: 2

    Speaking as a bioinformaticist (non-PhD, but with significant academic experience), protein folding simulations are extraordinarily overhyped. The potential for computers in structural biology is immense- every protein structure published has been refined by computer simulation. The theory involved is quite sound and the results are considered excellent. However, this still requires a great deal of experimental work. Folding via computer is still in the realm of pure theory, and while some people can come up with reasonable guesses at very low resolutions for small proteins (which is already quite difficult), this is next to useless for drug design. You need to have a high-res structure (about 3 angstroms, less is better), and computers just can't do that.

    It's not a matter of power so much as theory. A lot of people don't seem to understand this, which is why you can get lots of money to solve the folding problem. So sure, it's probably a good field to be in financially speaking. Scientifically speaking, it's comparable to AI in CS research- lots of big talk, few results. You'd be better off working on improving existing tools to help structural biologists, if you want to do something useful. You don't get to play with giant parallel machines, though.

  163. Cray Admin by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    http://www.arsc.edu/misc/vacancies/HPCProgAnalystI . tml

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    Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
  164. maybe you should train in english by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i here employers like people who can spell

  165. Re:.NET === XML by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2
    Fat ties will be back in style if you hold onto them long enuf.

    Yes! Vindicated!

  166. Hot areas by Samarian+Hillbilly · · Score: 1

    Well....
    I'm living in a country thats hurting a lot more than the US from the tech sector bust and I'm still getting calls from people interested in my DSP skills. I'm currently working in a new area I call "Embedded Distributed Computing" which I think is going to get real hot, real soon.

  167. The ultimate IT related job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two words: Patent lawyer!

  168. Re:.NET === XML by selderrr · · Score: 2

    okay, I admit that I peed a pit too much on tab delims. For 95% of all jobs they'll do everything XML does, and faster.

    But I do have some quite nasty nested stuff, with non-static iterations (ie : inside transmission repeaters the iterations can grow or shrink) and with pointer links to other nested structures.

    you'll adimit that that is no beaf for tab delimited crunchers, right ?

    but indeed, "Not something to bet the farm on"

  169. Re:.NET === XML by Beliskner · · Score: 2
    $price = $row[17]*[$row[72]* sqrt($row[12] )
    Now this is a good example of eXtreme Programming.
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    A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
  170. verification by guybarr · · Score: 1


    verification is the biggest problem in all engineering (not scientific, there the problems are worse...) regimes, it grows exponentially with size (complexity) of system.

    I worked at a company ( http://www.verisity.com , nasdaq VRST) addressing the verification problem for hardware-design. It is the best IPO for 2001 (yes, 2001 - when nasdaq plunged) and it has positive earnings ever since.

    and I think they'll continue to be in demand, because whatever you do, you'll still need to debug ...

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    Working for necessity's mother.
  171. look to education by octalgirl · · Score: 1

    Anyone in the tech field, looking for a new direction, look to education. Schools are clamoring for K-12 and secondary technology educators. You won't find yourself making 100K a year, but the rewards are tremendous. If you have your act together, your summers are for you alone to pursue side jobs and consulting gigs (otherwise you will find yourself in classes and working on the cirriculum you'd like to teach). There are also stipends for starting up things like robotics and computer clubs. These things are incredibly fun and satisfying, to the point that you almost don't miss a higher pay elsewhere. Good luck!

  172. "Local Canidates Only" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is what I'm hearing a LOT from recruiters, and posted to sites like Monster and Headhunter. There's such a glut of IT workers in most markets that employers can pick and choose from local canidates. Something else I've noticed searching sites like headhunter and monster the fulltime/perm jobs out nunber contracts by almost 5:1

  173. In a word..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PLASTICS!!

  174. Re:I'm glad YOU don't have any trouble finding a j by e_nygma99 · · Score: 1

    I would tend to agree with the Anonymous Coward's posting. I work for a company that underwent a merger two years ago. The first thing they did was adopt the in-house IT from the smaller subsidiary that was merged into the larger company. The reason? The outsourced company would do things, but there would be a 'cost associated with that' mentality with them. Everything had a 'cost' if it went beyond the scope of ordinary duties. Couple that with an 'average' bandwidth of 32K, the fact that they used 'experts' at each site to do routine work (people who were employed to do other tasks, but were tapped to work on computer problems) and the 'experts' were spending most of their time not working on 'billable' projects, then you get complete dissatisfaction with the outsourcing.

    The other issues would be:

    1. Lack of familiarity with the American brand of English (in the case of outsourcing to Asia) resulting in communication problems.

    2. Lack of the ability of the end-user to adequately communicate with technicians.

    I'm a currently employed System/Network Administrator jack of all trades kind of guy. I have a couple of certs (A+, HP CZ {printers}, MCP) but my two biggest skills are communication and tenacity. I can converse with a blue-collar worker as easily as I can a Senior Executive. When a problem presents itself, I don't quit until I've either solved it, or discovered that it had no real solution.

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    No matter where you go, there you are.
  175. Relative Demand of C++ and Java by goingware · · Score: 2
    Well I don't have an answer to your question, but I can relate some relevant information.

    Someone posted on the accu-general@accu.org list a few weeks ago (the Association of C and C++ Users) that he'd been studying the demand for various job skills at employment websites in the U.K.

    Suprisingly he found that the demand for C++ programmers was dramatically higher than that for Java programmers, and further that the pay scales offerred for Java programmers were very low.

    This is in sharp contrast to the situation at the height of Tulipomania. Sometime in 2000 someone lamented on a post to a C++ newsgroup or list or something that it appeared that the hourly rates available to Java consultants was twice as much as those available to C++ consultants - as much as $250/hour. This despite the fact that C++ is a much more difficult language to master.

    I think one thing this indicates is that the market for web server programming has fallen off the edge of the earth. But I'm not sure what all those C++ programmers are being hired for.

    News of this study came as a relief to me because I've been doing mostly C++ the last few years, and although I know Java I haven't really put much effort into it. At some points I wondered if I had made a big mistake. But I've gotten very good at programming in C++, and enjoy it a great deal now, and in fact I'm finding demand for my consulting work is starting to pick up noticably.

    I don't know how the U.K. results could apply to other countries, but you could check it for the U.S. by searching for various job skills at DICE and counting the number of hits you get for each.

    You could do this more systematically by having a robot browse each of the job descriptions on DICE and scraping keywords and payrates out of each of them.

    I can't post a link to the ACCU archive because the archives are only available to ACCU members and I'm afraid I let my membership lapse. :-/

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    -- Could you use my software consulting serv
  176. I'm not really abreast of national changes by meatspray · · Score: 1

    most everyone i know that lost their jobs in the .com crunch, is now working in the technical end of the medical field.

    Baltimore is a big hopital town and that might have a lot to do with it.

    it would seem that any field where technology can be enlisted to lower costs and improve productivity shows promise. There are still a lot of underutilized minds out there that could be coming up with creative solutions to old stagnant problems.

    I've sliped into the generation end of the print on demand industry. The print inductry is nototious for utilizing tons of people to churn out a product that could be reasonably well automated. Our tech department is made of of %95 ex - .com'ers.

    it seems everytime i get a new computer 12 times faster than my old one, i want to run a process that takes 15 times as long :(

  177. Re:.NET === XML by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* But I do have some quite nasty nested stuff, with non-static iterations (ie : inside transmission repeaters the iterations can grow or shrink) and with pointer links to other nested structures....you'll adimit that that is no beaf for tab delimited crunchers, right ? *)

    Use relational ID's or references. Every row should have a unique ID or key of some sort. You can simply reference instead of physically nest. Sounds like it is not even a tree anyhow, so you have no choice, except maybe to duplicate nodes to *force* it into a tree. Trees are an over-used structure anyhow. They don't scale when requirements turn them into graphs instead of trees. Unless you deal with a domain that naturally has trees in it, such "degeneration" is fairly likely over time because there is no tree-cop on duty in the real world.

  178. Re:.NET === XML by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (* Now this is a good example of eXtreme Programming. *)

    He he.

    IMO, XP is a result of object oriented technology not living up to its promise of scalling and simplicity. OO has only created armies of overpaid consultants with 50 different OO methodologies that either don't work, or simply map the world into the author's mind (but nobody else's).

    (I will probably get tagged a "troll" for this. Oh well, I have a few points to blow this week.)

    oop.ismad.com

  179. Age Biggots! (Re:Government Work) by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* I am just out of school, and found a well-paying job with a bunch of old guys. There is going to be a lot of people retiring in this sector over the short term. *)

    What you don't realize is that the government discriminates against experienced people. You got the job probably because you have no experience. I am surprised there has not been huge lawsuits against age descrimination in gov orgs.

    It happens because the unions protect people from competition (experience). Thus, it tends to hire graduates and interns and fill vacancies by moving up the existing employees.

    Now, contracting for gov might be a different story. That is probably a better bet if you have experience.

    Further, they are slow to process most positions. I am still getting rejection notices for positions I applied to almost a year ago. If you apply now, the economy may be shining again by the time something happens.

  180. Re:web services . NYET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As the Russians say .NYET
    nothing good has ever come from Microsoft!

    try Java and relatives

  181. Re:.NET === XML by Beliskner · · Score: 2
    And the moral of this story is:

    Only use new stuff when it makes whatever easier/better/cheaper.

    Before McDonalds - get food out of overcrowded fridge, secure children so they aren't harmed while cooking, prepare food, wash utensils, cook food, spend 1 hour cleaning up baked-on egg.
    After McDonalds - drive up to window, give money, get food.

    Before OOP - procedural FORTRAN-style stuff, VCs lose interest, refuse to give money to further software development.
    After OOP - software companies get so much money from buzzword-mania that a bubble is created, they can outsource to third world countries and creating gigantic power stations and infrastructure (no other private businesses have paid for an entire national infrastructure, too high risk).

    Well, After OOP might be a little exaggerated, but you can see that I'm getting at the fact that the big buzzword sell is important, unless you want to be a free software programmer on welfare. Even if OOP is just a buzzword-generating algorithm, it brought in the money Micro$oft-style so I'm not gonna complain. If my Manager tells me that OOP is the best thing in the world, I'll say, "Yeah great" then take a paycheck from him and call him "Sucker"

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    A caveman dreams of being us, the incalculable power and riches. We dream of being Q, then what?
  182. dream on, dreamer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus, this is exactly why Open Source always looks so pathetic. Every time somebody solicits suggestions on job ideas, everybody jumps out of the woodwork with their pet project, saying 'w0rk on th1s!!!! we r00l!!!! we are gunna change teh world!!!!!!!!!!'

  183. It uses HTTP on port 80 and supports proxies by adam_megacz · · Score: 1

    Pleae email me your log file; if this is a bug in XWT I'll fix it.

    If you're using IE+Windows, your log file is called 'xwt-log.txt'; search your hard drive for it (including system folders on XP). If you're using any other browser/OS, your log file is on the java console; please cut and paste it into an email to adam at xwt dot org.

  184. Re:Hmm... by Enigma2175 · · Score: 2

    Yes, it did occur to me, but generally if an author is re-publishing his work he will give credit to the original publication. I would also suspect that the article in question is owned by Business Week, being a work for hire. Also, I reasoned that if you did write the article you are pretty sharp and would be able to write an original post that supported your thesis, rather than copying old work verbatim. These reasons plus your recently registered /. account led me to conclude that you did not write the article. Now my question: Did you write the article for Business Week? In your reply you didn't say you wrote it, you just asked me if the thought occured to me. I still maintain you are not the original author, and are therefore a plagarist. If I'm mistaken I apologize but I don't believe I'm mistaken.

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    Enigma

  185. Dresses: Re:Web services. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dress and act as you are. Else would hurt your self and the industry in the long run.

    Burn your bras and your suits!

  186. I have applied for EVERYTHING here in the Midwest by Raedwald · · Score: 2

    hendridn says:

    I have applied for EVERYTHING here in the Midwest (meaning ALL IT jobs I've come across and anything else in the newspaper, even bank tellers, secretary positions, retail stores (damn college degree), and I can't get anything)

    Applying to all those jobs would sure take a long time. I guess you didn't spend much time on each application. Did you just send in the same copy of your CV (Resume in USAian, I believe) to them all? A generic CV radiates laziness, even comtempt. The employer is looking for someone who can fill a particular role, which means a particular set of skills, some of which the employer will consider more important than others. If you send a generic CV, the employer will have to wade through distracting and irrelevant material to learn the information they want.

    • This will annoy them.
    • They might give up before they find the information that shows you are suitable for the job.
    • They will believe that you have not bothered to do any research about the employer, what they do and what they want. They might conclude that you are probably lazy and/or not really very interested in this job, and therefore will not be motivated to do it well.

    You don't want the employer to believe any of those things.

    Your CV should show how you are suitable for that particular job. That means each job application could require a separate, taylor made, CV. Also, it is better to apply for a smaller number of jobs, placing more effort in each application, than to use a 'shotgun' approach.

    I recommend an excellent book called What Color is Your Parachute?

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  187. No. Not nevermind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is not good enough. I need to log in just to see what year an article was written? Bah.

    And they expect me to pay $5 per month for the privlege? Now THAT'S funny.

  188. Employment Opportunities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.Decide who you want to make money for other than yourself. In other words, where do you want to apply your talent;

    2.Find something that they need done in order to be successful, it doesn't have to be the leading-edge/latest-n-greatest but something that is fundamental to their success. It may not even be the first thing you would pick if you were doing something for fun;

    3.Learn how to do that as well as you can.

    4.As things change, transfer everything you learn in 3 to someone else and go to 2.

    In short, if you respect the people you are working for and can fix/maintain something they need to be in business, you should be able to find and keep a job for as long as you want. And yes, this is a lot more difficult than I make it sound.

  189. LCDs by lingqi · · Score: 1

    as for LCDs, i am actually refering to their driver chips; as LCDs become commodity, there will be a demand for people to program their functions, like OSD, etc. people will also be involved in the design, manufacture, and testing of these chips. while not a HUGE market, heh, it's a market.

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    My life in the land of the rising sun.

  190. There's always work to do in healthcare... by Frobnicator · · Score: 1
    There will always be work for people in the health industries. People are always being born or dying.

    As for what YOU should do, that is a much too personal question to ask on /. since it depends on factors you cannot put up here. Find something you like, and make sure you can do it well. Don't just focus on that one thing, learn about the world, but master an area.

    Then comes the job search -- as everyone knows, the most effective job skill is networking (people skills, not computer skills). Talk to everyone you know, everyone you ever worked with, and tell them what you want to do. A Good idea that has been successful for me is a 'networking card' that is like a mini-resume and contact info, pass it out to everyone (attach them to resumes you give out. Ask them to pass them on if they aren't interested in you.). They'll either throw it away or find someone else to give it to in order to prevent guilt.

    At that point you will have something you enjoy (not neccessarily the 'future' of the industry, but the future is what we make it).

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  191. Government contracts by NavyNasa · · Score: 1

    I expect the war on terror to cost more than any other war..ever. Not to mention the intel consolidation (Homeland defense) and NMCI (remember that $9B contract). Every industry imaginable is represented in some part of the US government. Irregardless of what industry you enjoy, get a job with a government contractor. That will be your job security. 85% of contractor positions hold no government clearance requirements (up from 60% in 1998). And maybe you could get them to pay for an investigation. One more thing for your resume.

    Navynasa

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  192. Seriously... by oobeleck · · Score: 2
    I live in Colorado and with 9/11 and all, the defense contractors are hiring like mad.
    The only problem is getting through their HR. (Horribly inept according to Engineers on the inside.)
    With a Republican strong hold you can expect defense contracts to be strong for the next couple of years at least.

    Just my .02

  193. The Enemy Is Us... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A couple of years ago, I knew people who wouldn't work for less than a certain amount. And that was often for mundane tasks like NT Administration or basic Web Design. While the market condoned that for a time, smaller organizations came to accept that new technologies were for Fortune 500 comapnies. The consequence is that many companies that would LOVE to expand their services onto the web or have applications developed assume it is out of their league. I work for a non-profit that has a small IT budget. If we could find someone who would actually work for us we have many projects we would do (web site enhancements, client tracking databases.) There are many opportunities with non-profits that could pay (relatively to their budgets). Not only is it work that has been overlooked, but it is work that people can feel good about.