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Good evening. Working hard, in this busy time for you called. This is my friend and the Boke,just established, the time is not long. The issue here isthat everybody can see my Boke, Ha-ha, raising some visibility, which caused trouble to ask your forgiveness! We all hope to see. Please! http://my.opera.com/ruyan/blog/ http://jiyishenchuren.spaces.msn.com/ http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/1245033544 http://tianyawuhui.blog.sohu.com/ http://blog.xuite.net/yueguang/yue http://jimoruyan.blogbus.com/index.html http://sanguoyanji.yculblog.com/ http://my.donews.com/jiangnanjiyi http://blogcn.com/u2/56/25/bufenshou/index.html http://yuefu.blog.163.com/ http://blog.eastmoney.com/chamagudao http://yutianxiayu.blog.com/ http://qiuri.shineblog.com/user4/qiuri/ http://blog.xoyo.com/cangliang http://bajiuwentian.blog.tyfo.com/ http://blog.thldl.org.cn/user1/xiaoyaoke/index.ht
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Re:Could you get around this...
Good evening. Working hard, in this busy time for you called. This is my friend and the Boke,just established, the time is not long. The issue here isthat everybody can see my Boke, Ha-ha, raising some visibility, which caused trouble to ask your forgiveness! We all hope to see. Please! http://cangqiong.blog.edu.cn/ http://wanqiudaocao.blog.hexun.com/ http://my.opera.com/chouxughue/blog/ http://jimowuhen.mblogger.cn/ http://blog.yesky.com/blog/qiufeng http://blog.china.alibaba.com/blog/googledu.html http://blog.csdn.net/xiaochenggushi http://blog.hnby.com.cn/user1/4221/index.htm http://www.blogchinese.com/06081/235082/ http://www.youthblog.cn/user1/xingfu/index.html http://aishishen.spaces.msn.com/ http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/1247140975 http://zhenaiwudi.xfblog.com/6/zhenai/ http://bubai.blog.ccidnet.com/ http://hi.baidu.com/hongchenqing http://www.126blog.com/user3/baifayujiao http://www.xsblog.com/m/redefadou/ http://blog.westca.com/blog_u11564.php http://blog.readnovel.com/user/208984.html http://dushill.blog.enorth.com.cn/ http://blog.china.com/u/060801/5365/index.html http://41306.blog.51cto.com/indexs.php http://wuhou.51r.com/user5/wuhou/index.shtml http://xiaotianxia.vvblog.com/ http://blog.bcchinese.net/wulei
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Re:Could you get around this...
Good evening. Working hard, in this busy time for you called. This is my friend and the Boke,just established, the time is not long. The issue here isthat everybody can see my Boke, Ha-ha, raising some visibility, which caused trouble to ask your forgiveness! We all hope to see. Please! http://my.opera.com/ruyan/blog/ http://jiyishenchuren.spaces.msn.com/ http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/1245033544 http://tianyawuhui.blog.sohu.com/ http://blog.xuite.net/yueguang/yue http://jimoruyan.blogbus.com/index.html http://sanguoyanji.yculblog.com/ http://my.donews.com/jiangnanjiyi http://blogcn.com/u2/56/25/bufenshou/index.html http://yuefu.blog.163.com/ http://blog.eastmoney.com/chamagudao http://yutianxiayu.blog.com/ http://qiuri.shineblog.com/user4/qiuri/ http://blog.xoyo.com/cangliang http://bajiuwentian.blog.tyfo.com/ http://blog.thldl.org.cn/user1/xiaoyaoke/index.ht
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Exactly. That's why the collapse of the Soviet Union was followed in short order by the collapse of Cuba, North Korea, and China, all of whom also transformed themselves into fledgling if flawed democracies.
Oh, wait...
The notion that all we had to do was sell people Big Macs and then they'd become democracies is, and always was, a lie. It was a fraud perpetrated by those who wanted to take advantage of cheap labor and lax labor and enviornmental laws. There was never any evidence that wanting material goods would lead to wanting democracy. In fact, there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. You had the Roman's and their "bread and circuses" policy of simply keeping the masses distracted from the government. In China, you have iPods and KFC.
Instead of aching for democracy, they see China as strong, and want to flex that new found power. It's almost nationalistic. When it comes to democracy, they honestly don't care. They believe the party line that any change to democracy would be too disruptive, so the masses are against it. The Great Firewall of China? They don't care. Most never venture outside of it. Even those here in the US spend most of their time visiting the BBS inside the firewall, like sina.com.cn and sofu.com.
China ceased to be a communist economy sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, no doubt ushered in by Deng Xiaoping's statement, "To be rich is glorious." A look around Bejing today shows a shining example of Maoist communism. Privately owned buisness. A rapidly growing middle class hungry for luxury goods. A wealthy investor class. Mao "Great Leap Forward" Tse-tung would be proud. But don't take my word for it, you can read about it here, or better yet hear it from the Chinese yourself. Just talk to any recent Chinese immigrant, they'll tell you all about it. They're quite proud of the rapid changes in China.
Is China communist? Only nominally. Is it totalitarian? Oh yeah. It's that. But it's got more in common with a kleptocracy than Maoist China.
Cuba's economy went in the tank after the fall of the Soviet Union. In the aftermath, the shadow U.S. dollar economy became so large, that Fidel had to no choice but to recognize it. It's now a major Caribbean tourist desintation for Canada and Europe. It's a country where restaurants deal only in dollars and have secret back rooms that contain of all things, extra seating, so that they can get around the legal limits on the maxium occupancy of the dollar resturants in order to make more money.
Cuba is more communist than China, and Cuba certainly isn't as well off as China. In fact it's pretty piss poor, but then again it does have the crippling sanctions imposed on it by the United States in order to show Miami that we're tough on communism. Communism is bad and must be defeated. That's why China is a most-favored-nation trading partner.
You're refering to the North Korea, where the people starve because Dear Leader Kim Jong-Il, in an effort to prop up his own financial status, has ordered the collective to stop growing rice and instead grow poppies for heroin production, right? Yes. Yes. Truly a vibrant economy, especially in the markets that sell "pork." That why they have pillboxes lining the Yalu river to shoot anyone crossing into China. Truly a beacon for communism the world over.
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Comments from the peanut gallery
So many of
/. comments on this story are about how Western companies are immoral for bending to the Chinese government. The problem for Western companies is that none of their goods and services are irreplaceable in China, they all have homegrown Chinese substitutes - Red Flag Linux, Sina.com, etc. Western companies can choose to either compete in China on China's terms, or be kicked out. Period. There's no idealistic wiggle room to appease high-minded slashdotters and Western notions of morality. The only real hope is for Western companies to bend to the Communist party's rules in the short-term in the hopes of building influential long-term (all-important in China) relationships with business and politicians there. Over time those relationships may allow the West to influence China in positive ways. Or maybe not, but that's the only strategy with any chance. So my challenge to slashdotters is, if you want to post a moral critique of Western companies for their dealings with China, also supply an alternative, *viable* course of action that they should have done instead of whatever you're criticizing them for. I doubt many will be able to do that. -
There are plenty of blogs in China
There are *plenty* of blogs and blog hosting services in China e.g. http://blog.sina.com.cn/
Of course, the majority of these blogs are in Chinese. Just because you can't read it, doesn't mean they don't exist.
There're a handful of Chinese who blog in English:
http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives.htm
http://ming.weblogs.us/
Imo, the best English language blogs on what's happening in China are :
ESWN
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/weblog.htm
and
Danwei
http://www.danwei.org/
From: Someone living in China
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Everquest is small potatoesThe North American version of Cleavage II has been flooded with professional farmers since before it was released. Want a character leveled for you? Don't have enough money in the game? Just cough up the cash. (Link contains images of Dark Elves. May not be work safe.) Want a job? They're hiring. (That last one may be an ad for a porn version of Gilligan's Island instead. I don't read Chinese as well as I could.) Want something to whine about? No problem. There are reports about organizations like Adena Farming Inc. all over the official boards.
Any time there is profit to be made by ruining an online economy, there will always be people lining up to make it.
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confirm...
here is the news report on a major chinese news site, this site used to be neutrally, but it then has been controlled by China government, yes, i don't have the evidence to prove that it is "semiofficial", but it really is. i don't have much time, so i can only translate the main point of this report:
To purify the Internet, some search engine has been banned "without day"
obvioursly, the un-controlled "carpet searching" sometimes is really a "dust collector", it may leads the user to those illegal site and page, and since its server is oversea, so our country has no "supervision" with it. that's quite reasonable to ban those search engine.
yes, it doesn't mention google, but everybody know who it is.
and then, why there are some people think it's a rumor, think it's a "technical problem". the reason is google is still accessible thru some IP address. and many mirror is not banned (in case you dunno the heading chinese on that mirror site, that's "I NEED Google"). so it's quite understandable as "DNS failure" or something like this. why mirror is not banned? one possible reason is the dictator himself has no knowledge about internet, the banning was executed by operator, the operator's responsibility is to show the dictator: "look, www.google.com is not accessible". yea, some operators are still human being, that's why we in China can still access google thru some mirror.
confirm over...
(is this a confirmation to the fact, or a confirmation to the rumor? i bet those naive people who think CCP is not that bad will never give up this quesiton. :)
see my another post about this -
confirm...
here is the news report on a major chinese news site, this site used to be neutrally, but it then has been controlled by China government, yes, i don't have the evidence to prove that it is "semiofficial", but it really is. i don't have much time, so i can only translate the main point of this report:
To purify the Internet, some search engine has been banned "without day"
obvioursly, the un-controlled "carpet searching" sometimes is really a "dust collector", it may leads the user to those illegal site and page, and since its server is oversea, so our country has no "supervision" with it. that's quite reasonable to ban those search engine.
yes, it doesn't mention google, but everybody know who it is.
and then, why there are some people think it's a rumor, think it's a "technical problem". the reason is google is still accessible thru some IP address. and many mirror is not banned (in case you dunno the heading chinese on that mirror site, that's "I NEED Google"). so it's quite understandable as "DNS failure" or something like this. why mirror is not banned? one possible reason is the dictator himself has no knowledge about internet, the banning was executed by operator, the operator's responsibility is to show the dictator: "look, www.google.com is not accessible". yea, some operators are still human being, that's why we in China can still access google thru some mirror.
confirm over...
(is this a confirmation to the fact, or a confirmation to the rumor? i bet those naive people who think CCP is not that bad will never give up this quesiton. :)
see my another post about this -
god or someone else bless us...
slashdot finally post this story on the fp...
i feel both gratified and worrying
the 16th All-Hands meeting of CCP will be held on 18th Nov at BeiJing, it will announce the fourth core-leader of the party (the first three is Mao, Deng, Jiang), the political battle just run in white hot. you can image how could this be, in a autarchy. currently, they are very sensitive about the public media, as well as the internet, this is so called "the very period", that's why google has been banned. it's quite understandable(not acceptable) from my point of view (No, i'm not brainwashed), google will be ok after this year.
my respect goes to google
for their disobedience
my useless indignation goes to Cisco and Yahoo!
for their "commercial operation"
god or someone else bless us...
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More on the Great Firewall of China
Every year or so, I get to rewrite this article, because it seems to continue to be regarded as news.
The government of the PRC, through Zhonghua Telecom, continues to filter traffic going in and out of China.
The filters do not work. This is old news. Proxy servers are everywhere.
Here's the secret which doesn't seem to have gotten out of China yet, the filters don't have to work. They're not designed for the users.
Contrary to popular belief, China is not run as an absolute dictatorship. It's run by a circle of maybe a few dozen people who's opinions really matter. Like any good-sized group, there's a lot of disagreeement about how much (or little) openness there should be to the rest of the world.
The filters exist to appease the more close-minded members of the circle and to let them know that the best efforts are being made to keep bad stuff out of the minds of users.
My best guess about Google disappearing is that one or more companies who are providing portal and search services in China have been complaining to the Ministry of the Information Industry about loss of market share to Google. The solution? If Google gets blocked, the market share for locally-produced Chinese portals goes up!
Is this good policy? No. Probably not. I've seen protectionist policy used all over the world and it's generally not the consumer or even the producers who benefit. It's a few well-placed friends of the folks in power. At least in this case, there's always another open proxy server which someone "forgot" to close up to work around this bit of government silliness.
Happy hunting all!
j.