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SoLong and Helios solar powered planes can do this
you'll probably need some additional energy to power the communication equipment. A solar-powered plane would already have solar cells for that.
Recently, AC Propulsion's SoLong solar powered aircraft recently proved that a 48 hour flight was possible. And before that, the Helios solar powered aircraft that was able to reach 95000 feet under it's own power was enough to convice Sky Tower that this was a viable business idea.
Of course, way back in the 80's there was the SHARP aircraft that was powered by a microwave antenna on the ground beaming power up to it.
So, yes, solar is an option that is definitely in the running and blimps will have to work hard to beat them at this game. -
airships dull in comparison to the new pathfinderThere's a lot of competition for this market already flying. Pathfinder is a large UAV (a sort of pilotless plane) that's powered by solar panels and can stay in the air for months.
It's a weird looking bird - have a look at http://www.skytowerglobal.com/
It has been flying for a few years now and has a few altitude records etc. They allways promised to put a web cam on one and never did (perhaps the transmission signal is poor
;)Mike
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Reason we want this
The folks at SkyTower have a wonderful explanation for why this would be a useful technology. They have a similar technology that is supposed to use solar power and, will, eventually, if they can get it to work, also have fuel cells to store energy for night flying.
The basic idea, if you're too lazy to read their web site, is that they make wonderfully cheap substitutions for satallites with some of the small footprint advantages that the cell phone network has.
The laser powered system would have the advantage of not needing to store energy for night flying.
Of course, it's doubtful that a lowly photovoltaic system could be efficient or light enough for this to scale well. The Canadian SHARP microwave powered aircraft is likely much more practical and has had lots of research behind it. -
Reason we want this
The folks at SkyTower have a wonderful explanation for why this would be a useful technology. They have a similar technology that is supposed to use solar power and, will, eventually, if they can get it to work, also have fuel cells to store energy for night flying.
The basic idea, if you're too lazy to read their web site, is that they make wonderfully cheap substitutions for satallites with some of the small footprint advantages that the cell phone network has.
The laser powered system would have the advantage of not needing to store energy for night flying.
Of course, it's doubtful that a lowly photovoltaic system could be efficient or light enough for this to scale well. The Canadian SHARP microwave powered aircraft is likely much more practical and has had lots of research behind it. -
Re:First? Not so much.
The Helios unmanned high altitude vehicle was developed cooperatively by NASA's Dryden flight Research and SkyTower Communications A division of Aerovironment These can help you learn more about their research into 3G and broadband deployment over Japan. Also, you can view the press release on the crash here.
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Re:So what?
Not to be a wet blanket, but while Helios is really neat it's not terribly useful.
You're not a wet blanket, just wrong. They have already completed HDTV trials, lots of other applications to follow. Cell towers will be replaced by these. Cell towers have been unpopular in most areas. No one wants to live next to one. These can be easily launched and can be made cheaply.
It might be cheaper than launching a satellite in some cases,
It's definitely cheaper than launching a satellite
For the cost to build and operate the vehicle it clearly doesn't have any commercial potential
Oh really, can you provide some facts to support that claim? You simply just don't know what you are talking about. Have a look at Skytower Global and look at Aerovironment too.
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1.5km high, cables will be hard to see for pilots
and because of that and problems when it's windy this is a much better solution:
SkyTower
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This is so NASA, again.
Here we have a commercial project, done by a private company, and partially funded by the Japanese Ministry of Telecommunications. And there's NASA, taking the credit.
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More Balloons and AUVsDaily Wireless has more on Sky High Wi-Fi including Skytower which uses a solar-powered airplane. It has been used for 802.11b-enabled aerial photography. Skytower is designed to circle overhead, unmanned, for as long as six months, drawing power from the sun by day and from fuel cells by night.
The new homeland security department will require a massive global network. But transoceanic fiber is easily cut and the $800 million TDRS replenishment program with three satellites doesn't have the bandwidth. Intercepted SIGINT data is reportedly transmitted to Earth on a 24 GHz downlink using narrow-beam antennas. But the frequency swaths allocated for links are less than consumers can get on cable television. More bandwidth is needed.
One might speculate that a secret optical/IR satellite network downlinked in Hawaii might be developed. The European Space Agency, not to be outdone, says they're thinking of building miniaturised optical systems that fit onto a microchip. These optical networks might use optical CDMA which encodes each pulse,across a segment of wavelengths.
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Stratospheric platforms
There is a lot of interest recently in stratosphereric platforms as an alternative to satellites, both heavier and lighter than air.
Geostationary satellites are too far to support high data rates to mobile terminals and also suffer from high latency. LEO satellites require an entire constellation covering most of the Earth before there is continous coverage in any part of the Earth. This all-or-nothing property makes it a dangerous business proposition.
Some links:
StratSat
CargoLifter and Boeing
Yokosuka
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Re:This Won't fly
If you read the SkyTower website you will see that the prefered configuration is two planes doing tight circles in a fixed point in the sky. These planes can share the same frequency and provide redundancy. So if one plane fails, you will at most loose half the bandwith.
But if the planes crash into eachother...
Check out this Real animation on their site:
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Re:global wireless networking
Uh.. actually, that is *almost* one of the proposed
uses for these things. Check out:
SkyTower Telecommunications
or
AeroVironment
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more info on Helios
i've been watching this Helios story for a couple of months now. the company that designed & built Helios (w/ NASA) is AeroVironment, founded by Paul McCready (of Gossamer Albatross fame). there are some pretty cool commercial applications intended for this program.