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Tried XFMail and Postoffice and couldn't buildI should point out, in response to some who have written me, is that I'm not trying to use my Linux box as a mail server. It's a laptop that's not always connected to the net. I just want to use my hosting services like any Mac or Windows user would.
I tried XFMail and Post Office today and couldn't get either of them to build.
I spent about an hour with each of them. Post Office required a bunch of undocumented environment variables to be set in order to get it to build.
I think it's critically important that no software require an environment variable to get it to basically function. If it does, you can be sure the user will select a product from Microsoft or Apple instead.
This is with a Slackware 7 system.
XFMail hasn't been maintained in a year, and although it's taken new life as Archimedes it hasn't been released yet.
It is possible to retrieve it from CVS and build it that way. I'll give it a try
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Re:What mail client will serve my needs on Linux?
XFMail has all the features you list. I'm unable to get to the site at the moment, but it's normally there and working.
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Eudora clone?
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Re:Aid and abetInstead, could you provide for me an example of legal gun use in which there is truly no alternative to using a gun?
Protecting my goats from coyotes and mountain lions. You think I'm going to use a machete?
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Read, and understandI'm not talking about the advertising clause.
Did you read my message. I said, "you must credit the author." That is still true. You cannot just relabel code as copyrighted by you; it is still copyrighted by the original author.
With public domain software, this is not the case. Thus, using Love's absurd reasoning, only public domain software is non-proprietary.
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PUFGPAWhat I'd like passed:
The Protect-Us-From-Government Protection Act
But they never seem to do that...
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Wrong.Under Love's definition, BSDL is also proprietary, since it makes demands on the redistributor (you must credit the author).
Only public domain would be non-proprietary enough for Ransom Love, apparently. Is that what you advocate?
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Rehashing the same old stuffThis article presents nothing new; neither did ESR's. Both articles simply rehash the same old arguments we've been hearing for years. I suppose these things do have to be occasionally restated, but I just feel the urge to say "bleaagh."
Elias Levy seems to be saying that security through obscurity does work, because he thinks that everyone is lazy/dumb.
Personally, looking at the evidence of the last few years, I'm not so sure I agree with him. Yes, *theoretically* open source software could go unfixed for a long time, but what we have seen is that it seems to be much more common for closed source software to have holes in it for years.
Regarding his point that black-hats will find the holes in open source: who do you think is finding the holes in closed source stuff? I'd still rather have the "window of opportunity" be of shorter duration, and I think I get that with open source.
Open source is not a panacea, but it's still safer in the long run, IMO.
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Re:Because you BOUGHT the water.Nope, because you have a legal right to the water. Either you have paid for the water in the pipes through taxes or paid at the store for the bottled water.
Not true. I do not pay anything for my water, which comes from a nearby spring.
I think the guy had kind of a point. Just like Evian is taking from the commons, refining and bottling, so is Metallica, drawing on various influences, repackaging what they've heard, performing it, and selling the product.
Of course, the difference is that copying their songs is not quite the same as drawing water from a different source. If we had replicators, then we'd have a similar situation...
On the other hand, many people here go to the other extreme, and suggest that copying==stealing, which is not quite true, either.
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Re:Overclocking counterculture = slammed hondas?On that topic, I was at the tire shop the other day, and looking at one of the hot rod magazines there. They had a picture of a Fiat 500 with a small-block Chevy engine.
That just made me chuckle.
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AgreedModeration is completely out of control. It is almost entirely based on "do I agree or disagree with the sentiments in this post?" now.
The trollers are indeed serving a purpose in trying to point this out. Unfortunately, I don't think it's having much of an effect on most moderators, who seem to have no conscience.
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Linux security resourcesI'd just like to add to what others have said. Linux, just like any operating system, takes a bit of work to make *and keep* secure. But there are some excellent tools at your disposal:
Secure-Linux is a Linux kernel patch that adds nifty security features, which eliminates many, if not most, buffer overflow attacks. I tested this with one of the ProFTPd exploits, and indeed, the exploit failed against a known vulnerable version of ProFTPd. Without the patch, the exploit worked.
Psionic PortSentry detects and responds to port scans in real time. It works with other Unixes as well.
With these tools, the standard ipchains stuff, and a willingness to not run *every* daemon under the sun, you can have a reasonably secure Linux box.
Also, to throw those k1dd13z for an extra loop, put all this on linuxppc. Let 'em chew on that for a while...
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You're living in fantasy land...I don't trust anyone's judgement, thus I'd like to see guns removed from society.
And just how do you propose to do that? You won't be getting any gun of mine; I promise you that. And I know that many, many other people will keep their guns.
Face it, guns are here to stay. The arguments for banning guns sound *so* similar to the arguments in favor of the encryption export laws, which people here are so against.
Still, I can understand the anti-gun position of most people here. If I had been indoctrinated all my life to fear guns, I'd probably hold hoplophobic opinions, too.
If you *really* look at the statistics...I mean *really* look, with an open mind...you will find that gun ownership does not lead to an increase in murders. But you have to be open-minded and intellectually honest in order to see that.
One pointer...compare murder rates in North Dakota and Saskatchewan. See what you come up with.
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Re:A hetero, redneck, assault rifle for free speecBut laws against murder are in an entirely different class, as they punish a person for violating the rights of another person.
Prohibition laws do no such thing; they are so-called 'preventative' measures. The problem with preventative laws is that they punish people who have committed no crime.
Really, it is a basic philosophical issue: do you see individuals as holding certain inherent rights? And if so, what rights are these? Can society, which is a construct made up of individuals, have rights of its own?
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Re:Anti-firearms laws not morality legislationRed herring, quite obviously. Killing people violates the rights of other people. Owning a gun does not.
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Re:Anti-firearms laws not morality legislationLegislating against firearms is not a matter of morality; it's a matter of pragmatics.
As I said, one can make similar arguments for anti-gay legislation (AIDS, does not promote "proper family values", etc.). These can certainly be seen by some as "pragmatic."
There is a rural lifestyle that includes the ownership of firearms. Whether you endorse such a lifestyle is irrelevant; it certainly exists. Anti-firearms-rights laws suppress the rights of those living this lifestyle, whether or not that is their intent.
I find it somewhat revealing that although pro-gun people seem able to grasp the (rather simple) concept of "respect my rights and I'll respect yours," but anti-gun people seem unable or unwilling to do the same.
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Re:A hetero, redneck, assault rifle for free speecYou have utterly missed my point, perhaps intentionally.
I made no claim whatsoever as to the reasonableness of gun ownership; what I stated is that when you push to outlaw a lifestyle choice with which you disagree, you are ultimately destroying *everyone's* freedom, including your own, in the long run.
You may wish to rant and rave about this, but I believe it is demonstrably true.
I am merely making a plea for those with strong opinions to reconsider their push for legislating their morality. And make no mistake about it, passing anti-firearms-rights laws is legislating morality.
Please, reread your rant, and substitute "gay man" for "people who live with guns" and "have sex with another man" for "own weapons that kill."
How about some *real* tolerance for a change? Tolerance for those who we genuinely dislike, or disagree with, but who have not directly harmed anyone?
Support *everyone's* rights, and perhaps you'll find your rights supported by others when push comes to shove.
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Re:A hetero, redneck, assault rifle for free speecHmmph. Are you saying that because we in Britain don't allow people to shoot assault rifles, this is morally equivalent to stopping people having gay sex?
Certainly. He made a rather good point. Anti-firearms-rights laws are a type of prejudice against a particular group of people and a particular lifestyle.
You can make seemingly reasonable arguments to support them, but so can the people supporting anti-gay legislation.
Government (and society) succeeds in removing our rights, because we are all too willing to sacrifice the rights of our brother, forgetting that the same will eventually happen to us.
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I still gotta wait......for a solution that works on a 45,000 foot loop.
Yeah, there's gDSL, but I have to somehow convince my local phone company (Cascade Utilities, which has about 20,000 customers statewide as far as I can tell) to buy that equipment.
Man...living in BFE has its advantages and disadvantages...
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Get your centuries straightit's hard to see what, if anything, will change as a result of this surreal conflict between 18th-century laws and institutions and 21st-century economic realities. Truth is, we already live in a post-Microsoft World. (Read more.) it's hard to see what, if anything, will change as a result of this surreal conflict between 18th-century laws and institutions and 21st-century economic realities.
Actually, antitrust laws were developed in the 19th century, and this is still the 20th century.
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Re:Enough with the bullshit editorialswhy not look into establishing better partnerships with IHVs so in the future Linux will be a viable option?
I dunno...maybe because Microsoft has illegally used its monopoly power to discourage said IHVs from supporting other operating systems than their shoddy ones?
Or did you forget about that little issue?
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Re:Let them.You say:
A world dominated by Linux will be no better than a world dominated by Windows.
Yet, you claim:
although I'm a fierce supporter of Free Software.
This makes me scratch my head. Is it that you truly don't understand the inherent advantages of Free Software?
Of course a world dominated by Linux (or other Free Software) would be better than a world dominated by Windows. It's all about Freedom. That's why we're here. If that weren't the case, wouldn't we all just use Windows, and stop using our free time writing/bugfixing/promoting this stuff?
Putting aside the question of how NetBSD is any more desirable to the "regular Joe" than Linux, perhaps this post is just another example of someone intentionally trying to "go against the herd" to get moderated up.
Really, though, "going against the herd" is no longer possible here, as there are two herds: one that supports Free Software, and one that despises it. The latter are the people who moderate up any post that appears hostile to Free software in any way.
I would perhaps agree with you, to a point, had you actually given any actual technical reasons why Linux was inappropriate for this application. You did not. Therefore, I can not agree that this post was especially "Insightful."
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Good pointsYou make some very good points; I think the only thing I would add is that in the extremely unlikely event that Microsoft goes essentially unpunished (like they did in 1995), their control of the browser market could mean that they could do some very nasty things, if they felt free to do so.
But, chances are, they will receive a rather severe smackdown, and your analysis will prove correct: that their defeat of Netscape only accelerated their own self-destruction.
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Re:Will this player allow me to...1) The copyright holder is allowed to specify where you can view their copyrighted material.
This is absolutely not true. Consider that libraries may lend books that they have purchased.
DVD-CCA is trying to block consumers' fair use (and other) rights through technology. They are not acting in the spirit of the law.
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Will this player allow me to...
- watch DVDs from any region?
- make back up copies of my DVDs?
- manipulate the video as I see fit?
There is lawbreaking going on surrounding the DeCSS issue, and it's all being done by the corporate goons that make up DVD-CCA.
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Re:But UltraSPARC III is coming...The U-3 is looking pretty sharp, too - as far as performance figures go. It's seriously overdue as a replacement for the U-2.
Agreed. It's kinda late, but still, this is going to be one hell of a processor.
Notice how Suns keep their value? I mean, I'm trying to get an Ultra 1, and can't seem to get one for under $1000 on eBay.
What's with the pissant moderators around here?
Dunno. I see that you are at a 0, but don't see any moderations on your post. Do you have negative karma or something?
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Re:go england?Personally, I don't see how this is any different than a TV station which refuses to pull defamatory advertising.
In that case, I'd guess you don't know very much about Usenet.
Settling with this guy (who has sued others before, I believe), not only panders to net.kookery, but fails to recognize the decentralized nature of Usenet.
To order an ISP to remove a Usenet post is silly; yes, they can issue a cancel, but a lot of good that does for an article that has already propagated. Many servers do not honor cancels, for a number of reasons, so the article, while it may not be available on the local server, will still exist on servers throughout the world (He did manage to get DejaNews to pull it, though...another scary thing).
Usenet is really a record of events; what this guy has done is to try to alter history by scribbling in his own newspaper.
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Radio stations and music purchasesWhen you think about it, the radio stations only help the RIAA make more profits anyway - thousands of radio stations all over the country and abroad have to buy their own copies of all the RIAA songs to play, often in the more expensive single format or full CDs or remixes or all of the above. (I'm sure they must get discounts, but I'm betting that the RIAA protects their profit margin.)
Radio stations typically get free promo copies of CDs/singles/etc., both for airplay, and for giveaways. Mostly this is for "current product" (i.e., the shite the record company rep is pushing right now for airplay). Sometimes, though, if you have a decent relationship with your rep, they'll even get you some free "catalog" (i.e., older stuff).
I used to work in radio back in the 80s. I don't miss it all that much, though.
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But UltraSPARC III is coming...And I don't think those are going to just plug into an Ultra 1...
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I don't have heat problems like that...I have a BP6 with two Socket 370 333s running at 500 MHz, and my CPU temperature stays in the 80s. I don't have any special cooling stuff, just ball bearing CPU fans, and one additional case fan.
Maybe FreeBSD is cooking those CPUs...
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I'm pretty sure it was on foxnews.comBut I can't find it now, as there is a newer story that doesn't mention that.
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I should clarify that...This was a new story that I heard yesterday; it was not the old Bloomberg story. The story was that the settlement offer that Microsoft submitted included opening (or somehow otherwise disclosing) Windows' source code as a concession/remedy.
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Re:Apple's profit marginDid I say anything about the ease of installing RAM? No. I was talking about the quality of components, which you have to admit was superior on the 8500, compared with the iMac/G3/G4.
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Hmmm...what's going on?OK...the first thing you think when you hear this story is, well, naturally, the DOJ is rejecting Microsoft's offer, since:
- The DOJ seems poised to win, and you don't settle easily when you're winning
- Microsoft is likely offering minor concessions
I guess the real question would be: is Microsoft offering to release the Win 9x source code, only to turn around and concentrate on the NT codebase? And would they immediately make API changes to make the old codebase incompatible? Perhaps that's what DOJ is thinking.
Anyhow, I certainly don't have the answer. I don't really like government getting into all of this anyhow, but I don't particularly care for Microsoft, and what they've done to the industry, either.
If anything good is to come of this, they should get Microsoft to release any rights to OS/2 source code, so IBM could open source OS/2, if they want to. That SOM stuff could be very useful to the KDE and GNOME projects.
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Yeah, but...You're assuming all that software that is missing on BeOS would be ported from MacOS-PPC. The big one, MS Office, would almost certainly *not* be ported, as an x86 MacOS would be directly competing with Windows.
Although, you never can tell what would happen now with the anti-trust trial and everything...
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Re:Apple's profit marginApple's box are well built and with a nice design, I don't think they are over priced if you compare them with quality PCs.
There was a time I would have agreed with you, perhaps, but that time has long passed.
Modern Apple hardware is not all that hot. Look at the quality of the components in the iMac, G3, G4. Nothing all that different than the stuff that gets put into most PCs. But still a bit more expensive (although less so than previously). The last *really* nice Apple hardware, IMO, was the 8500.
Apple made a business decision (and probably a wise one) to get more competitive price-wise with PCs, by becoming much more like a PC maker.
And as for people like me who build their boxes, there's still no comparison to what I can do with commodity PC parts. An SMP machine for less than $1000. Beat that with Apple hardware.
Heck, even most Sun hardware ain't what it used to be. Too bad.
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Overreaction: A Way of Live TodayOf course they shouldn't have done what they did; and of course they should have been disciplined.
That said, we seem to have moved into an era of overreaction. Kids hook up ethernet, get arrested. Woman protests president, gets arrested. Girl says she's going to bring *gum* to school, gets suspended. A boy can't even have a pocket knife at school anymore...what has our world come to?
No one has a sense of humor anymore, or a sense of proportionality. What has happened to us?
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VT220It's basically impossible, having seen an iMac once, to think of anything else when you see it.
I think of a VT220 whenever I see an iMac. Every time. Have you never seen one?
I used to use a VT220 with a 9600 baud modem to read Usenet at work.
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Re:No friend in exec. branch? Are you high?but Exon was a Republican, NOT a Democrat,
You have no freaking idea what you're talking about, do you? Exon was a Democrat. Period.
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No friend in exec. branch? Are you high?It was Clinton that signed the CDA Tipper Gore who headed the effort to censor music in the 80s, and I would remind you that Sen. Exon, a Democrat from Nebraska, introduced the CDA.
And if you look into region coding a bit more, you will see that it is the content providers indeed who want to enforce that regime.
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This could be goodThe Internet has always had the potential to be the great equalizer, a place where the small business person can have nearly the same presence as the mega-corporation.
Many small sites, including my wife's, are turning a profit, albeit a small one.
If these huge sites fail to ever become profitable, and if VC starts to dry up, it won't kill the net; it will just restore some balance again.
Personally, I've heard too many lame ultra-commercial "concept" site TV/radio ads. A respite from those would be more than welcome.
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Ultimately, it is up to AppleAt least from what the xanim guy has said. Yes, the codec is the property of Sorenson...but, they say that it is Apple that is preventing them from licensing to him, which they indicate they would otherwise be willing to do.
So, the fact that Sorenson would need to do the licensing is pretty much a non-issue at this point.
The organization standing in the way of this happening is Apple.
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Re:peta.orgI look at it this way...at least he's managed to keep the PETA wackos (I mean, c'mon...they're against owning pets!) *off* the web for four years.
That really brings up another issue. Most domain disputes are over money; this one is over politics. How should political situations like this be handled? The same as others? Or should there be different considerations?
I would think that the fact that he has a web site, and is using it to present a particular point of view related to the name should be sufficient for him to keep it.
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Am I the only one who's scratching his head?Yeah, yeah...the guy was a squatter, and we all hate squatters, but...
Complainant contends that respondent has registered as a domain name a mark which is identical to the service mark registered and used by complainant, that respondent has no rights or legitimate interests in respect to the domain name at issue, and that respondent has registered and is using the domain name at issue in bad faith.
Note, however:
The complainant has provided evidence of the registration of the following marks: 1. Service Mark - MUSICWEB, for computer online retail services in the field of recorded music and music information in Int. Class 42, registered for a term of 10 years from September 15, 1998. Complaint, Exhibit B. The Service Mark claims a first use of June 10, 1998. Id. Complainant uses the mark, MUSICWEB, for the sale of recorded music, discs, tapes and other electronic recording devices. Complaint 8.
and... The Whois record of the domain MUSICWEB was created on January 10, 1995 and last updated on January 5, 1997.
So, musicweb.com was created over three years before this guy registered his service mark.
Does that mean that any domains held by speculators are up for grabs? I mean, all you have to do is register a service mark that is the same as the root name of a domain, complain to ICANN, and bingo...the domain is yours!
I dunno...but something just doesn't seem right about this.
Perhaps speculators will simply start registering service marks.
I'd really like to see about 1000 new non-geographical TLDs to put an end to all this nonsense, once and for all.
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Bookmarks are gone.At least in the Linux/x86 version...I hope they put them back for the final release. The bookmarks thingy has been replaced by a "Content" menu, which appears to be non-editable. Too bad. I found that very useful in G2/6.0. I had a nice little menu of radio stations and video feeds.
Can someone tell me if they're also gone in the Macintosh and Windows versions?
OTOH, it does seem to play video better than that last version, even at low data rates.
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Yup.And the sad thing is, he's not even a very good one...
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Re:Improper moderation on parent commenthe was moderated down for beeing Anti-BSDL,
That is not a legitimate reason to moderate a post down.
there is HUGE difference you zealot.
But thanks for the impartial, reasoned analysis!
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Improper moderation on parent commentThis is really getting ridiculous. Moderators driven by Anti-GPL sentiment have moderated this comment down as "Flamebait" and "Troll." It is clearly not that.
The guy had some reasonable points, with which you may agree or disagree. But, have the decency to reply to him in a comment, instead of using your moderator points to respond. Moderators who do this sort of thing are the real "Anonymous Cowards."
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Absurd.This is quite possibly a troll, but I will reply anyway.
Call it earning a place at the table before you get to sit down. We would get rid of "Naked Petrified Grits" imbeciles and Stallmanist collectivists by ramping up access costs, and we would get rid of cheap fly-by-night web garbage by seriously increasing the cost of a domain name.
Sheer idiocy.
You are completely ignoring the egalitarian nature of the Internet, which is what made it as popular as it is in the first place.
If anything, the cost of entry is too high, as decent broadband is still expensive and limited in coverage.
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