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Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

Last week, you asked questions (many rather pointed!) of Amir Taaki, co-founder of Bitcoin Consultancy, which develops Bitcoin related services, exchanges and Bitcoin itself. (They also own Britcoin.co.uk.) Says Taaki: "When creating video games I spent much time imagining tools to make artists lives easier, and how we could keep funding developers to write free software. One contribution of mine to the community was a site where developers could get funded for developing features and I'd love nothing more than to pay people to write free software." With regard to Bitcoin, similarly, "We need fulltime developers thinking about the problems and solutions needed to keep this system running. We aim to get all the creative thinkers from the community and provide a mechanism for enabling their work." Below find his answers to the questions readers raised.

Is the gold rush over?
by curunir

With BitCoin limited to a pre-determined amount and the difficulty of mining new BitCoins, it seems that this gives a huge advantage to people who got into BitCoin early and have already amassed a considerable amount of BitCoins. Is this true and, if so, do you think this disincentive will undermine BitCoin's ability to become more popular since the majority of the population will have to work so much harder to obtain the currency?

Amir Taaki: It is certainly true that early adopters have been rewarded. I do not think these inequities will be more shocking than those in the real world. Any guesses as to how this will play out is pontification. However, I don't think anyone has proposed a working model for a decentralized secure digital currency where such a thing would not happen. Overall, I believe the properties of this currency will significantly add to the wealth of all peoples, especially those less well off.

Crypto-Anarchism?
by conner_bw

I argue that bitcoin is interesting because it's a locked currency, with a known maximum, and a timeline for that maximum based on contemporary crypto math and radical ideas. There is clearly well thought out timeline for adoption and disruption. It's not just "Cool, new money!" Are you a crypto anarchist, or similar?

A.T.: Yes, I myself am a crypto anarchist. However, not everyone on my team has the same political ideologies and we do not try to push our ideologies on each other. In fact, we have all seen our ideologies change over time with the awareness of new knowledge and information. Ideologies should not be a point of contention, especially when we all see the immense prolific value of a more efficient means of commerce.

If not, then is this another Tulip craze [wikipedia.org] and all these news stories and bitcoin currency exchange services being hyped heavily the last month machinations for profiteering?

A.T.: I do not advocate that people speculate on bitcoins. In fact I actively advocate against that because those who are new to bitcoin might see it as just that, a 'craze.' I do however think that the properties of bitcoin are clearly advantageous over the current means of commerce. Although bitcoin is still underdeveloped, everything visible in the modern world can be adapted using bitcoins as a backbone. This will result in all the services of today's world (clearing houses, security, fraud protection, interest bearing accounts...) continuing to be offered, but with far less overhead.

Austrian Acceptance
by MyFirstNameIsPaul

I have found that the Austrians have a hard time accepting the idea of a digital currency. The core of their argument seems to be that digital currencies are not made up of something that had value before being a medium of exchange, such as gold and silver. When I counter to them that BitCoin is made up of code and people pay money for things like video games, they argue that the video game would have to be the thing valued, not the computer code. How do you deal with these kinds of objections?

A.T.: Gold is not a currency in my mind. It is a store of value. I would not want to go to buy bread from my local store and shave off some gold from a bullion and take out a scale and wait for an acid test to be performed. Gold is backed by real world properties.

Bitcoin is backed by the fact that is has unique properties as well:

• Decentralized
• No bank holidays
• International
• No concept of borders
• Divisible
• True micro-transactions possible (new markets feasible)
• New privacy model
• Private identity yet transparent
• Secure
• You do not have to trust merchant sites (Sony - Playstation) to protect your data
• Fast Transactions
• No Charge backs

Useful Calculations?
by Bodhammer

Is there any way to make the calculations more useful (i.e. Boinc) and still maintain the same level of difficulty in the computations? It just seems so wasteful to run Bitcoin at this time.

A.T.: Our world's current infrastructure depends on paying employees, building large buildings, paying for heat, electricity, transportation, lawyers, courts, judges, policemen, government bureaucracies, armies and much more. Doesn't it seem wasteful to rely on tedious and sometimes ambiguous real world laws with a lot of overhead instead of mathematical laws?

When merchants started accepting bitcoins, verifiers (because miners is a misnomer) started to see that their generated coins were worth something. They became competitive and found ways to do the same calculations cheaper which provided security for the network and verified the transactions. Verifiers found out that running these hashing algorithms on one's GPU was far more energy efficient than running them on one's CPU. Specialized software was later constructed for these purposes. Some keep their machines under dry ice. In the not so distant future, hardware FPGAs will be specially designed for this verification process.

The advantages of bitcoin exist because it is an inherently more efficient and less wasteful system. The reward for minting a block, provides a healthy competition that causes the energy cost to be driven down.

Additional privacy layers and smartphones?
by DriedClexler

Is there any serious development underway to make the privacy more robust? There has been talk of "Bitcoin laundry," where large pools swap their coins around between each other to make it harder to connect a coin/address with an owner. But for this to seriously work, it needs a lot more people to be involved in it, and it has to be integrated in a way that's secure (against someone just keeping coins in the middle of a shuffle) and transparent to the user (so they don't have to think about the new addresses they generate, or which coins are optimal to send where for the maximum shuffle). How soon can we expect something like this? Also, how soon will smartphones be able to handle this with the same ease as desktops and notebooks?

A.T.: A bitcoin laundry already exists. The volume on it is very low, but if demand increases in the future then such a service is trivial to setup. A mixing service (as they're called) requires a large volume and therefore a persistent demand.

Smartphones can already use bitcoin :) An Android version of the command line Bitcoin was compiled. Additionally one can use an online wallet service (or a bitcoin exchange) to store their bitcoins.

Lost/forgotten bitcoins?
by algorimancer

One thing that concerns me is the fixed maximum number of bitcoins. Lets say people acquire bitcoins, but the amount isn't enough to worry about, so they never use them, or perhaps their computer crashes and they don't have a backup. My understanding is that these bitcoins are permanently lost from the economy of bitcoins. Over time, the total supply would begin to dwindle, presumably pushing up the value of those that remain, until people become frustrated at the small supply and are motivated to move to a new system, then bitcoin is abandoned. In the real world this happens with dollar bills, but the government can compensate for this by creating more. Is this issue addressed in some fashion?

A.T.: The supply of bitcoins is 21 million. The supply of money is infinite. A bitcoin can currently be divided to 8 decimal places. The loss of bitcoins in the future may lead to some deflation however I expect it to be insignificant. In the very long term, even if there was only 1 bitcoin theoretically in circulation, running the world economy would not be a problem. There exists only 6 MBTC in circulation at this moment.

Extreme instability of Bitcoin vs. USD
by Limerent Oil

Why would any merchant IN THEIR RIGHT MIND want to deal with Bitcoin? With the insane USD-to-Bitcoin exchange-rate gyrations happening lately, why would any serious retailer even bother, when the value of Bitcoin vs. USD could change by 50% or more in just a few hours?

A.T.: As liquidity increases transaction costs decrease. If there was already an appropriate clearing house in place, a merchant would be able to automatically accept bitcoins and liquidate them to dollars. In the same way that people who use the internet are not all cognizant of the communication protocols they are using, I foresee the possibility of merchants offering their products in USD, EUR, GBP, and customers purchasing those products in their local currency. And the underlying mechanism which facilitates this transfer is the bitcoin. Bitcoin would provide these same services that payment services, credit cards or banks do but with much less cost to the merchant and customer.

What about the lack of inflation?
by Cyberax

It's long known that economic growth is severely stunted without some measure of inflation. Adopting bitcoins for the global economy would mean that policymakers lose control on money supply, and while there are advantages in this, disadvantages far outweigh them. Additionally, adopting a global currency standard will deny governments ability to influence currency rates robbing them of yet another way to control the economy. Is there any plan to solve this? Maybe a system of independent bitcoin 'roots' operated by governments would help?

A.T.: Ben Friedman has released a lot of work on E money and how it will affect the future and how governments will adapt. The truth is that the government will still have monopolies on much of the operations of the economy such as fractional reserve banking and the issuing of licenses which allow banks to lend money.

Aspirations
by slim

What are your aspirations for the currency? Do you hope for it to be near-ubiquitous — used by corner shops and mainstream merchants like Amazon? Or are you happy to see a parallel economy grow, as a niche thing? Or something else?

A.T.: I have lofty dreams of a world where people can send money abroad without having to pay 20+% in many cases to rip offs like western union. Where people can raise funds through services like paypal but not have their accounts arbitrarily frozen. Where citizens in developing nations who already oppose their government do not have to pay for wars of genocide out of their own pockets as was the case in ex-Yugoslavia where authoritarian control over the money supply helped finance a terrible war and bring about the worst hyper-inflation in Europe since WWII.

Bitcoin in some form is going to be adopted whether it is used as a unique currency, a payment system or as a clearing house. Our aspiration for bitcoin is to provide competition to the current system making everything cheaper for all. It's about cutting the middleman, democratising money and handing back power to people.

Will governments let it survive?
by merdaccia

We live in a world where the supply and movement of money are controlled by governments, central banks, money laundering laws, and financial institutions. How can BitCoin survive in this world? Middle men like banks stand to lose a fortune in fees and exchange rates, governments stand to lose a fortune in taxes if they can't track money movement, and the black market stands to gain a silent way to move value. For BitCoin to gain adoption, some major retailers need to start supporting it, but given the above risks, what stops a government from telling companies in its jurisdiction that they can't accept it?

A.T.: The US is not the world. If their government forces everyone to continue to use typewriters in lieu of computers and pay through the nose, they can. New and better technology, especially when it is revolutionary, does threaten archaic models and practices. Hopefully there will not be contention. My team is already in contact with SWIFT which has operated for 30 years and is the backbone of international money transfer for over 9000 banks. Many forward thinkers see the advantages of bitcoins but it is easy to understand how those perhaps well-intentioned but not well-versed in what bitcoin is can promote FUD.

Regulatory compliance?
by molo

For those of us interested in developing financial services using bitcoin, how have you dealt with regulatory issues? It seems like the SEC and FINRA in the US would not be keen on unregistered broker-dealers and agents and owners not having the legally required Series 7 and Series 24 certifications. Have you sought the UK equivalent certifications? The requirements of lawyers, accountants, certifications etc. seem to put a very high capital cost on starting a legitimate business offering services in this space.

A.T.: As well as being a developer, I own and operate www.Britcoin.co.uk (the UK exchange site). My team has been in negotiations for a long time now with lawyers and regulators. There is no regulatory process or restrictions now on the running of such services. Non-regulated sectors rarely seek out regulation. However, when it comes to bitcoins, I believe the sooner they are regulated the better. If their regulation is pushed by those who understand what bitcoins are then we may be able to regulate them in the best way possible and show the world they were not created for illegal practices. The sooner they are regulated, the sooner users can have legal assurances that merchants are liable for their operations. The negligence seen at MTGox would never have happened in a regulated market.

Although the FSA have not made any official statement about bitcoins. We at www.britcoin.co.uk are hoping that we can show to the proper authorities that indeed we have recorded our history of transactions. That all the money in our users accounts is accounted for. This process would dispel the FUD surrounding bitcoins and allow the people of the world to enjoy the freedoms and wealth of bitcoins that much sooner.

Tax avoidance and illicit trading
by slim

Some "benefits" of Bitcoin, from one perspective, appear to be that its cash-like properties lend themselves to tax avoidance (making transactions without declaring them), illicit trading (e.g. drugs or prostitution) and money laundering. Do you view this as a positive, a negative, or neutral? If you view it as a problem, how can the problem be mitigated?

A.T.: Most new technologies can be used for good and bad. Of course I do not condone or agree with the use of Bitcoins for illegal purposes.

However, I really want people to understand one thing. The criminalization of Bitcoin would not stop the illegal activity that surrounds it. In fact, it would help those who use it as a means of engaging in illegal activity by not regulating the purchasing and selling of bitcoins. Criminalization would only stop people from enjoying the tremendous and fruitful benefits of such a system, it would hinder the social good. Regulation would allow the proper authorities to find and charge those who use bitcoins for illegal activities.

Britcoin.co.uk has kept a clear record of the exchanges which have gone on. Every single transaction is recorded and we are happy to open our books to the proper authorities. We are aggressively advocating and promoting the legalization and regulation of the exchanges.

Bitcoins offer massive potential for positive social change. It would be a sad thing to see Bitcoins outlawed due to ignorance or reactionary feelings. If you outlaw Bitcoin then the illicit trades will still continue, perhaps even proliferate, but the good would disappear.

Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide (e.g Milosevic in the 90s). Bitcoin democratises governments.

Quantum Computing?
by SanityInAnarchy

Are there plans to deal with quantum computing, or with any of the algorithms used being compromised?

A.T.: If SHA256 or ECDSA was ever cracked, we'd have far bigger problems to worry about than bitcoin being destroyed. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.

The internet wasn't built perfect. But years of reshaping/patching/incremental design have shaped it into a workable network. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages.

(More from the call for questions:)

is there ever going to be a bitcoin bank? ... The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this.

A.T.: Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist. A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future.

Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal. To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data.

The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password. In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?

What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency?

What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins?"

What kinds of competing P2P currencies are in development, and how will their deployment affect the valuation of bitcoins?

A.T.: Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system. Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.

The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator (possibly funded by bankers) made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers. That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths.

Terminology

If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.00000005 Bitcoins?

A.T.: The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. 0.005 BC would be 5 mBC.

Here come the regulators ...

How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes (to avoid being shut down by government authorities)?

A.T.: It is our goal (and has been for months) to get legal legitimisation. Our organisation has been aggressively seeking FSA regulation here in the UK for Britcoin. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.

Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds.

But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means? What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well?

A.T.: The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better.

Check out the list of merchants.

Full and open disclosure: how many bitcoins do you currently own?

A.T.: 32 BC. At one point I had 6000, but I'm a bad hoarder. Everytime Bitcoins would double (and I'd have $2k), I'd donate half my wealth to other free software developers. Then recently I was going to wait until I had $4k, but the price went down and I'm very bad at holding onto cash :)

But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.

What are the advantages of bitcoin?

One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash.

Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to? What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency?

A.T.: Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult. Recently I tried sending funds to a Polish bank from the UK- the bank was closed and I waited until Monday. Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work. In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat (we never use Britcoin ourself).

I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected. In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal.

Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker. Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash.

With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.

CWmike writes "Unnoticed in the Tuesday release of Firefox 5 was Mozilla's decision to retire Firefox 4, shipped just three months ago. Mozilla spelled out vulnerabilities it had patched in that edition and in 2010's Firefox 3.6, but it made no mention of any bugs fixed in Firefox 4 on Tuesday, because Firefox 4 has reached what Mozilla calls EOL, for 'end of life,' for patches. Although the move may have caught users by surprise, the decision to stop supporting Firefox 4 has been discussed within Mozilla for weeks. In a mozilla.dev.planning mailing list thread, Christian Legnitto, the Firefox release manager, put it most succinctly on May 25: 'Firefox 5 will be the security update for Firefox 4.' Problem is, users are being prompted to upgrade now but are hesitant because the new rapid release of updates means many add-ons are not compatible. And without security updates in between, many could be left exposed with unpatched browsers."

An anonymous reader writes "Back in April hackers gained access to the WordPress.com servers and exposed passwords/API keys for Twitter and Facebook accounts. Now, hackers gained access to Wordpress.org and the plugin repository. Malicious code was found in several commits including popular plugins such as AddThis, WPtouch, or W3 Total Cache. Matt Mullenweg decided to force-reset all passwords on WordPress.org. This is a great reminder for all users not use the same password for two different services."

mask.of.sanity writes "The noose is tightening on hacker group LulzSec, according to a coordinated group of like-minded users, some from LulzSec-Exposed that claim to have uncovered the identity of LulzSec members and supplied them to the FBI. An arrest Monday of a UK teenager was rumoured to be former hacker scene member Ryan Clearly, and the trackers, which includes a former FBI agent, say this arrest is the first of many. They refused to disclose the identities of LulzSec chief, saying it would cause the members to burn the evidence of attacks and scatter."

KingSkippus writes "The superhero-themed MMORPG City of Heroes announced this morning that it is rebranding the game as City of Heroes Freedom ('freedom to pay and play as you choose'), and moving to a hybrid payment model including a free-to-play option. 'VIP' players who still pay a monthly subscription will have most features of the game unlocked and will be given credit towards purchase of others. City of Heroes Freedom is due to land later this year with the next major game update." The trend toward free-to-play continues. Meanwhile, a recent update that brought microtransactions to EVE Online has (at least temporarily) resulted in digital clothing items becoming more expensive than real-world counterparts.

KingSkippus writes "The superhero-themed MMORPG City of Heroes announced this morning that it is rebranding the game as City of Heroes Freedom ('freedom to pay and play as you choose'), and moving to a hybrid payment model including a free-to-play option. 'VIP' players who still pay a monthly subscription will have most features of the game unlocked and will be given credit towards purchase of others. City of Heroes Freedom is due to land later this year with the next major game update." The trend toward free-to-play continues. Meanwhile, a recent update that brought microtransactions to EVE Online has (at least temporarily) resulted in digital clothing items becoming more expensive than real-world counterparts.

KingSkippus writes "The superhero-themed MMORPG City of Heroes announced this morning that it is rebranding the game as City of Heroes Freedom ('freedom to pay and play as you choose'), and moving to a hybrid payment model including a free-to-play option. 'VIP' players who still pay a monthly subscription will have most features of the game unlocked and will be given credit towards purchase of others. City of Heroes Freedom is due to land later this year with the next major game update." The trend toward free-to-play continues. Meanwhile, a recent update that brought microtransactions to EVE Online has (at least temporarily) resulted in digital clothing items becoming more expensive than real-world counterparts.

Earlier this morning we reported that an arrest had been made relating to the hacker group LulzSec. mask.of.sanity notes "Hacking group LulzSec has poured cloud water on claims that it had stolen UK Census data and was preparing to release the records. 'Just saw the pastebin of the UK census hack. That wasn't us — don't believe fake LulzSec releases unless we put out a tweet first,' the group said from its official Twitter account."

Orome1 writes "The ICANN board gave final approval to what some are calling 'the most dramatic change to the Internet in four decades,' allowing the expansion of new TLDs. Some argue this ICANN initiative could force a land grab of domains by businesses to protect their company reputation. However, they aren't the only ones who are likely to try to snag these new top level domains. There's a very legitimate concern that cybercriminals could also seek these new domains to create legitimate looking websites using well-known brand names. These can then be used for phishing attacks or delivery of Trojan malware to unsuspecting visitors."

In 2008 we discussed news of an MMO in an early phase of development that sought to merge two different forms of media: TV shows and video games. Now, reader querbeet points out that work on the game — Defiance — is much further along. Screenshots and an interview with a senior developer provide a clearer image of how such a project will work. "Both the game and the show take place in a near future, post-apocalyptic version of Earth. ... The game is centered in the remains of San Francisco, while the show will take place in St. Louis. 'They exist within the same universe,' Hill told Ars. 'And primarily where we're going to be different is the fact that things that happen in the game will occur in the show and things that happen in the show will occur in the game. From a global standpoint this could be a large political change, a big environmental change, and they'll happen simultaneously on both.' As an example, Hill said that a character from the show could leave for San Francisco, show up in the game and go on adventures with players, before returning to St. Louis to discuss everything that happened while they were in the game world."

kaiengert writes "In November 2009 a Man-In-the-Middle vulnerability for SSL/TLS/https was made public (CVE-2009-3555), and shortly afterwards demonstrated to be exploitable. In February 2010 researchers published RFC 5746, which described how servers and clients can be made immune. Software that implements the TLS protocol enhancements became available shortly afterwards. Most modern web browsers are patched, but the solution requires that both browser developers and website operators take action. Unfortunately, 16 months later, many major websites, including several ones that deal with real world transactions of goods and money, still haven't upgraded their systems. Even worse, for a big portion of those sites it can be shown that their operators failed to apply the essential configuration hotfix. Here is an exemplary list of patched and unpatched sites, along with more background information. The patched sites demonstrate that patching is indeed possible."

kaiengert writes "In November 2009 a Man-In-the-Middle vulnerability for SSL/TLS/https was made public (CVE-2009-3555), and shortly afterwards demonstrated to be exploitable. In February 2010 researchers published RFC 5746, which described how servers and clients can be made immune. Software that implements the TLS protocol enhancements became available shortly afterwards. Most modern web browsers are patched, but the solution requires that both browser developers and website operators take action. Unfortunately, 16 months later, many major websites, including several ones that deal with real world transactions of goods and money, still haven't upgraded their systems. Even worse, for a big portion of those sites it can be shown that their operators failed to apply the essential configuration hotfix. Here is an exemplary list of patched and unpatched sites, along with more background information. The patched sites demonstrate that patching is indeed possible."

An anonymous reader writes "We all know that brute-force attacks with a CPU are slow, but GPUs are another story. Tom's Hardware has an interesting article up on WinZip and WinRAR encryption strength, where they attempt to crack passwords with Nvidia and AMD graphic cards. Some of their results are really fast — in the billions of passwords per second — and that's only with two GTX 570s!"

An anonymous reader writes "When Oracle acquired Sun in 2009, the company got its hands on a lot of desirable technology. While OpenOffice may have fallen by the wayside, Oracle isn't about to let the Java programming language and its associated patents remain untouched if they can generate some additional revenue. In fact, the company is currently in the middle of a legal battle with Google over those patents that could potentially net Oracle billions and leave Android crippled. In August last year Oracle sued Google for infringing Java patents and copyright by developing Android. Oracle argues that Android uses technology derived from Java and therefore infringes multiple patents. It wants compensation, but with most court documents and details not publicly available, it's hard to know specifics. However, new documents made available late last week revealed just how much Oracle thinks is an acceptable damages payment for Google to make. According to an expert Oracle hired, Google could be looking at a bill between $1.4 billion and $6.1 billion for its alleged infringements."

ygslash writes "The U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have established a pilot program with leading private defense contractors and ISPs called DIB Cyber Pilot in an attempt to strengthen each others' knowledge base regarding growing security threats in cyberspace. The new program was triggered by recent high-profile hacks of the International Monetary Fund and many others. But don't worry — Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn promises that the new program will not involve "monitoring, intercepting, or storing any private sector communications" by the DOD and DHS."

BigCorona writes "The US Federal Trade Commission said that it has approved Microsoft's $8.5 billion cash takeover of voice and video-over-IP provider Skype. Microsoft officially announced its intent to acquire Skype back on May 10 and since then users have been taking to Twitter to blame Microsoft for Skype's intermittent service. Now, with Reuters reporting that there has been antitrust approval of the deal, users will be able to turn to Microsoft when asking questions of Skype's sometimes-spotty service."

Vadim Makarov writes "Physics World reports on researchers demonstrating a full eavesdropper on a quantum key distribution link. Unlike conventional exploits for security vulnerabilities that are often just a piece of software, spying on quantum cryptography required a box full of optics and mixed-signal electronics. Details are published in Nature Communications, and as a free preprint. The vulnerability was known before, but this is the first actual working exploit with secret-key recording confirmed. Patching this loophole is in progress. Disclosure: I am one of the researchers who worked on this."

From reader Peter McDermott comes word of a computer outage with effects to dwarf those of the one that stranded thousands of US Airways passengers last week. This time, it's United Airlines' systems that are out of commission and unable to handle passenger reservations, leaving passengers stranded all over the U.S. According to Peter, experiencing the resultant delays first-hand at Dulles Airport near Washington, D.C., United planes are being sent on — along with their passengers' luggage — to the cities from which they're to leave tomorrow morning, in anticipation of the computer system being fixed in the interim.

theodp writes "As IBM gives itself a self-congratulatory pat on the back as it celebrates its 100th anniversary, Robert X. Cringely wants to set the record straight: 'IBM didn't invent the personal computer', writes Cringely, 'but they don't know that.' Claiming to have done so, he adds, soils the legacy of Ed Roberts and pisses off all real geeks in the process. Throwing Big Blue a bone, Cringely is willing to give IBM credit for 'having helped automate the Third Reich'."

sanzibar writes "The Federal procurement database reveals millions of dollars are being spent on gadgets. Over the past 10 years, the US government has spent $117 million on BlackBerries (including service plans), almost $18 million on iOS devices, about $1 million on PS3s, over $500k on Xboxes, and somehow, $12k on Zunes."

purkinje writes "Unusual calm in the solar cycle — called a solar activity minimum — has sparked claims that the Sun will cool the Earth, leading us into a new ice age. While Europe did experience a Little Ice Age during a solar activity minimum three centuries ago, the connection between sunspots and climate is a lot more complicated, and it's unlikely this change in the Sun's activity will cool Earth down — or even affect the climate at all. Plus, any cooling that might come from this would be less than the global warming that's been going on. So don't pull out that parka yet; a new ice age seems more than unlikely."

mcgrew pointed out a story about a new study that found the average person is born with 60 genetic mutations, very few of which involve weather manipulation or an amazing healing factor. This number was less than expected, leading the researchers to believe human evolution happens more slowly than previously thought. From the article: "Sixty mutations may sound like a lot, but according to the international team of geneticists behind the new research, it is actually fewer than expected. 'We had previously estimated that parents would contribute an average of 100 to 200 mistakes to their child,' Philip Awadalla, a geneticist at the University of Montreal who co-led the project, said in a press release. 'Our genetic study, the first of its kind, shows that actually much fewer mistakes, or mutations, are made.'

soricon writes "Microsoft made good on its promise to release an official Kinect SDK for Windows, opening the door for multiple educational, research and enthusiasts groups to create new and innovative uses for the popular full body movement sensor. Currently in beta, the SDK requires Windows 7 and at a minimum, a dual core machine with a DirectX 9.0c capable graphic card and it is free to download."

garry_g writes "While 'the cloud' may be one of the major buzzwords of the Internet industry, anybody concerned with security and privacy will most likely not touch it with a 10-foot pole. While I am guilty of using Dropbox for occasional data storage or quick picture snaps with my Android phone, I do watch out not to store anything important on there (or incriminating), no matter what the "privacy policy" may be. I was wondering: what useful alternative is there to Dropbox on the FOSS market, which will allow access by both windows/linux boxes, but also mobile devices (specifically Android). I know there are front-end add ons for Windows (and Linux tools of course) e.g. for SVN, but most likely no implementations for mobile use as far as I can tell... And, of course, the backend should run on a Linux box ;)"

garry_g writes "While 'the cloud' may be one of the major buzzwords of the Internet industry, anybody concerned with security and privacy will most likely not touch it with a 10-foot pole. While I am guilty of using Dropbox for occasional data storage or quick picture snaps with my Android phone, I do watch out not to store anything important on there (or incriminating), no matter what the "privacy policy" may be. I was wondering: what useful alternative is there to Dropbox on the FOSS market, which will allow access by both windows/linux boxes, but also mobile devices (specifically Android). I know there are front-end add ons for Windows (and Linux tools of course) e.g. for SVN, but most likely no implementations for mobile use as far as I can tell... And, of course, the backend should run on a Linux box ;)"

garry_g writes "While 'the cloud' may be one of the major buzzwords of the Internet industry, anybody concerned with security and privacy will most likely not touch it with a 10-foot pole. While I am guilty of using Dropbox for occasional data storage or quick picture snaps with my Android phone, I do watch out not to store anything important on there (or incriminating), no matter what the "privacy policy" may be. I was wondering: what useful alternative is there to Dropbox on the FOSS market, which will allow access by both windows/linux boxes, but also mobile devices (specifically Android). I know there are front-end add ons for Windows (and Linux tools of course) e.g. for SVN, but most likely no implementations for mobile use as far as I can tell... And, of course, the backend should run on a Linux box ;)"

MikeChino writes "Last year we learned that China planned to expand its high-speed rail network all the way to Europe and now the nation has launched the first step of the project with plans to extend tracks into northern Laos. The nation has also set goals of expanding the high-speed rail line into Vietnam, Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore."

Michael J. Ross writes "In the evolution of the Web, one of the most significant improvements was the general transition from static websites based only upon HTML, to dynamic websites based upon scripting languages. But even then, each website was much like a silo, with no publication of content beyond the pages provided on the site itself. That all began to change with content syndication through RSS, and the development of web application APIs. Nowadays, a growing number of organizations are publishing online content through web services, as well as consuming content published by others. These sites can be built using Drupal, an open-source content management system (CMS). Drupal Web Services, a book authored by Trevor James, aims to help web programmers do that sort of development." Read below for the rest of Michael's review. Drupal Web Services author Trevor James pages 320 pages publisher Packt Publishing rating 8/10 reviewer Michael J. Ross ISBN 978-1849510981 summary A guide to connecting a Drupal website to external services. Released by Packt Publishing on 24 December 2010, under the ISBN 978-1849510981, this book is the only one currently on the market that focuses on how to "integrate social and multimedia web services and applications with your Drupal Web site" (to quote from the book's marketing copy). Its 320 pages are organized into a dozen chapters and one appendix. The publisher makes available a web page with a description of the book, its table of contents, and a sample chapter (Chapter 9, "Twitter and Drupal"). The page notes that readers do not have to have any programming expertise, but should be familiar with the use and administration of a Drupal site. The book covers Drupal 6, as version 7 had not been finalized and released until a couple weeks after the book's publication. Visitors can also read the reported errata (of which there are none, as of this writing), and download the example code used in nine of the chapters. (This review is based on a print copy the publisher kindly provided. An e-book version is also available.)

The first chapter serves as an introduction to web services at a high level, including remote procedure calls (RPC), as well as some of the most commonly used protocols, with some focus on Representational State Transfer (REST). The author then gives several examples of web services that can be consumed by a Drupal website, and others where the site provides the service. This material is a fine overview, although nonprogrammers may be scared away unnecessarily by the inclusion of coding details, such as the Mollom service requests. Also, the writing style is rather repetitious in some places, e.g., "it will cost you to sign up for it. It's not a free service" (page 16). More amusingly, on page 9, the author states, "The computer that contains the application [] can be anywhere in the world," and then adds, "It could be sitting on a server in the US, Europe, Asia, South America, or somewhere else" — as if any reader might be unfamiliar with the major regions of the world. On the other hand, some readers may appreciate a slower narrative pace. Yet most troubling of all is the claim (on page 12) that many of the popular web applications are based on PHP (as is Drupal), and thus we have the advantage of "a common programming language." That contradicts the whole point of web services, namely, sharing data and other resources among websites regardless of those sites' underlying technologies. A typical web service does not transmit source code, hence its language is irrelevant, as is the language of any other website with which it interacts. (This so-called advantage is never substantiated, or even explained, anywhere in the book.)

The next four chapters take a detailed look at how a Drupal website can consume third-party web services, beginning with the use of Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) in general, and two contributed modules in particular (the SOAP Client module, and the FedEx Shipping Quotes module — which depends upon the Ubercart shopping cart module). The discussion of the topics is complete and straightforward, with screenshots as needed to show what administrative forms need to be filled out by anyone following the instructions. This approach is followed in the subsequent three chapters, which show how to use the web services of Flickr, Amazon, CDN2, and Kaltura. Chapter 5 discusses video, and thus its coverage of the Media:Flickr module for turning photos into slideshows should have been placed in the third chapter, which was devoted to Flickr.

Chapter 6, which focuses on the use of the Services module, essentially begins the second part of the book, because the reader starts learning how to make a site provide web services, i.e., no longer acting solely as a client — although there are some cases where web services are consumed at the same time as they are offered to outside clients. The Services module works in conjunction with other Drupal modules that implement web service methods (SOAP, REST, JSON, etc.). All of the examples are helpful, but the photo_service_all() function on page 136 is odd, because the author states that it returns an array of nodes, but the code suggests instead that it returns the nodes' content, concatenated together as a string. Similar to the first part of the book, the remaining chapters in the second part focus on specific web services: CAPTCHA, reCAPTCHA, TypePad, Mollom, Google Docs, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Facebook. Chapter 12 explores the authentication services OpenID and OAuth, but strangely ends by stating that it is time to test the OAuth connection, with no explanation as to how to do so. Incidentally, to Drupal administrators unfamiliar with the use of the Views module, the first sentence on page 205 will likely be quite confusing, because it conflates fields with filters. (The phrase "filters in" should be replaced by "includes" or "uses.") Also perplexing is that on pages 209-210, the author advises the use of "http://" instead of "www." in short URLs, but two pages later the results show the opposite. The phrase "FBML is now considered by Facebook" is baffling; considered what by Facebook? Lastly, the author states that OAuth will be tested with Digg (page 259), but that is not covered.

The book's sole appendix briefly presents each of the major contributed modules used, organized by chapter. For each module, there is a brief summary of its purpose, the current maintainers and version, and links to its project page and usage statistics. Two passages in Chapters 7 and 8 suggest that the book's appendix was not finished as intended: The author states (page 150), "I've attached the code for the recaptchalib.php file as an appendix in this book," but that does not appear to be the case — which is fortunate, because the book should not be made longer by including source code that is easily available to the reader. On page 177, we are told that the appendix explains how to install Acquia Drupal, but it does not.

The figures used in the book are, for the most part, quite handy, to see the results — especially for the reader following along who does not want to implement all of the instructions. However, the first screenshot on page 103 and the second screenshot on page 114, were incorrectly swapped for one another, and thus do not match the respective descriptions in the text.

Even though the writing quality of this title is a bit better than the typical programming book nowadays, there are some problems. Countless verbs are prefixed by the (useless) phrase "go ahead and" — to the extent that the reader will be sick of it by the time he reaches the end of the book. Occasionally the phrasing is rather puzzling. For instance, on page 131, the screenshot shows that a list of field names should be separated by commas, with no spaces. The author's explanation is "Make sure to not avoid spaces"

There are a couple instances in the book where critical configuration settings are not introduced or explained until after the reader is told that he will see results from following all of the earlier steps (which include most of the configuration settings). For example, in Chapter 4, the author instructs the reader to install the Amazon, CCK, and Features modules, and test everything using the Amazon Examples module. Pages later — possibly after the reader has been frustrated in trying to get the example scenario to work — he is told how to configure the Features module to enable the Amazon Examples features.

As with most Packt titles, the copyediting is quite poor, with inconsistent punctuation and plenty of errata that should have been caught in the production process: "and and" (on the "About the author" page), "at [the] time" (page 3), "try and access" (page 11; should read "try to access"), "a RPC" (page 15), "[a] server API" (18), "APress" (22), "is a not a" (25), "delivery Information" (43), "on how" (70), "to to" (89), "you [c]an" (94), "extention" (97), "the the" (106), "user Drupal user" (184), "se e" (198), "CMS(" (232), "both the methods" (252), "Try it both methods" (258), and "sign [in] to" (259). There are countless places where the term "the" is missing, e.g., twice on page 16. The menu path delimiter used is sometimes ">" (e.g., page 226), but usually "|," which makes each menu path look too much like page links in a footer.

However, the main problem with the narrative is that the author repeats information — in most cases not just once, but numerous times. For example, in the second chapter, we are told three times that the author will present the SOAP and FedEx shipping quotes modules. By the time the reader reaches page 33, he likely will already be tired of being told the same information. But on that page alone, the author goes over the same ground two more times. In fact, the beginning of the second paragraph sounds like a copy of the first. Compounding the problem, the author will frequently take some of the material from the main section where it is discussed, and add it to the tail end of the previous section — somewhat like a preview, but wholly unnecessary. Packt Publishing's content editors should have caught and weeded out this redundancy. Each chapter ends with a summary, which add no value and exacerbate the repetitiveness of the chapters' main content. One glaring example of redundancy, in the last chapter, is the second go-round of how to define a Twitter application, which had already been covered in Chapter 9.

Yet one advantage to repeating explanations, is that no reader will miss key instructions. This would be most advantageous to readers skimming the material at a fast pace, or anyone new to administering a Drupal website and consequently lacking in confidence. Anyone reading this book will likely be impressed by the way that the author patiently steps the reader through every process. Due to the detailed explanations, each chapter stands on its own, thereby making it possible for the reader to learn a particular topic without having to read any of the earlier chapters. This also makes the book valuable not just as the tutorial, but for reference purposes.

With clear and thorough explanations, Drupal Web Services would be an solid resource for anyone who wants to connect a Drupal-based site to any web service, including the major social media applications.

Michael J. Ross is a freelance website developer and writer.

You can purchase Drupal Web Services from amazon.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.

Michael J. Ross writes "In the evolution of the Web, one of the most significant improvements was the general transition from static websites based only upon HTML, to dynamic websites based upon scripting languages. But even then, each website was much like a silo, with no publication of content beyond the pages provided on the site itself. That all began to change with content syndication through RSS, and the development of web application APIs. Nowadays, a growing number of organizations are publishing online content through web services, as well as consuming content published by others. These sites can be built using Drupal, an open-source content management system (CMS). Drupal Web Services, a book authored by Trevor James, aims to help web programmers do that sort of development." Read below for the rest of Michael's review. Drupal Web Services author Trevor James pages 320 pages publisher Packt Publishing rating 8/10 reviewer Michael J. Ross ISBN 978-1849510981 summary A guide to connecting a Drupal website to external services. Released by Packt Publishing on 24 December 2010, under the ISBN 978-1849510981, this book is the only one currently on the market that focuses on how to "integrate social and multimedia web services and applications with your Drupal Web site" (to quote from the book's marketing copy). Its 320 pages are organized into a dozen chapters and one appendix. The publisher makes available a web page with a description of the book, its table of contents, and a sample chapter (Chapter 9, "Twitter and Drupal"). The page notes that readers do not have to have any programming expertise, but should be familiar with the use and administration of a Drupal site. The book covers Drupal 6, as version 7 had not been finalized and released until a couple weeks after the book's publication. Visitors can also read the reported errata (of which there are none, as of this writing), and download the example code used in nine of the chapters. (This review is based on a print copy the publisher kindly provided. An e-book version is also available.)

The first chapter serves as an introduction to web services at a high level, including remote procedure calls (RPC), as well as some of the most commonly used protocols, with some focus on Representational State Transfer (REST). The author then gives several examples of web services that can be consumed by a Drupal website, and others where the site provides the service. This material is a fine overview, although nonprogrammers may be scared away unnecessarily by the inclusion of coding details, such as the Mollom service requests. Also, the writing style is rather repetitious in some places, e.g., "it will cost you to sign up for it. It's not a free service" (page 16). More amusingly, on page 9, the author states, "The computer that contains the application [] can be anywhere in the world," and then adds, "It could be sitting on a server in the US, Europe, Asia, South America, or somewhere else" — as if any reader might be unfamiliar with the major regions of the world. On the other hand, some readers may appreciate a slower narrative pace. Yet most troubling of all is the claim (on page 12) that many of the popular web applications are based on PHP (as is Drupal), and thus we have the advantage of "a common programming language." That contradicts the whole point of web services, namely, sharing data and other resources among websites regardless of those sites' underlying technologies. A typical web service does not transmit source code, hence its language is irrelevant, as is the language of any other website with which it interacts. (This so-called advantage is never substantiated, or even explained, anywhere in the book.)

The next four chapters take a detailed look at how a Drupal website can consume third-party web services, beginning with the use of Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) in general, and two contributed modules in particular (the SOAP Client module, and the FedEx Shipping Quotes module — which depends upon the Ubercart shopping cart module). The discussion of the topics is complete and straightforward, with screenshots as needed to show what administrative forms need to be filled out by anyone following the instructions. This approach is followed in the subsequent three chapters, which show how to use the web services of Flickr, Amazon, CDN2, and Kaltura. Chapter 5 discusses video, and thus its coverage of the Media:Flickr module for turning photos into slideshows should have been placed in the third chapter, which was devoted to Flickr.

Chapter 6, which focuses on the use of the Services module, essentially begins the second part of the book, because the reader starts learning how to make a site provide web services, i.e., no longer acting solely as a client — although there are some cases where web services are consumed at the same time as they are offered to outside clients. The Services module works in conjunction with other Drupal modules that implement web service methods (SOAP, REST, JSON, etc.). All of the examples are helpful, but the photo_service_all() function on page 136 is odd, because the author states that it returns an array of nodes, but the code suggests instead that it returns the nodes' content, concatenated together as a string. Similar to the first part of the book, the remaining chapters in the second part focus on specific web services: CAPTCHA, reCAPTCHA, TypePad, Mollom, Google Docs, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Facebook. Chapter 12 explores the authentication services OpenID and OAuth, but strangely ends by stating that it is time to test the OAuth connection, with no explanation as to how to do so. Incidentally, to Drupal administrators unfamiliar with the use of the Views module, the first sentence on page 205 will likely be quite confusing, because it conflates fields with filters. (The phrase "filters in" should be replaced by "includes" or "uses.") Also perplexing is that on pages 209-210, the author advises the use of "http://" instead of "www." in short URLs, but two pages later the results show the opposite. The phrase "FBML is now considered by Facebook" is baffling; considered what by Facebook? Lastly, the author states that OAuth will be tested with Digg (page 259), but that is not covered.

The book's sole appendix briefly presents each of the major contributed modules used, organized by chapter. For each module, there is a brief summary of its purpose, the current maintainers and version, and links to its project page and usage statistics. Two passages in Chapters 7 and 8 suggest that the book's appendix was not finished as intended: The author states (page 150), "I've attached the code for the recaptchalib.php file as an appendix in this book," but that does not appear to be the case — which is fortunate, because the book should not be made longer by including source code that is easily available to the reader. On page 177, we are told that the appendix explains how to install Acquia Drupal, but it does not.

The figures used in the book are, for the most part, quite handy, to see the results — especially for the reader following along who does not want to implement all of the instructions. However, the first screenshot on page 103 and the second screenshot on page 114, were incorrectly swapped for one another, and thus do not match the respective descriptions in the text.

Even though the writing quality of this title is a bit better than the typical programming book nowadays, there are some problems. Countless verbs are prefixed by the (useless) phrase "go ahead and" — to the extent that the reader will be sick of it by the time he reaches the end of the book. Occasionally the phrasing is rather puzzling. For instance, on page 131, the screenshot shows that a list of field names should be separated by commas, with no spaces. The author's explanation is "Make sure to not avoid spaces"

There are a couple instances in the book where critical configuration settings are not introduced or explained until after the reader is told that he will see results from following all of the earlier steps (which include most of the configuration settings). For example, in Chapter 4, the author instructs the reader to install the Amazon, CCK, and Features modules, and test everything using the Amazon Examples module. Pages later — possibly after the reader has been frustrated in trying to get the example scenario to work — he is told how to configure the Features module to enable the Amazon Examples features.

As with most Packt titles, the copyediting is quite poor, with inconsistent punctuation and plenty of errata that should have been caught in the production process: "and and" (on the "About the author" page), "at [the] time" (page 3), "try and access" (page 11; should read "try to access"), "a RPC" (page 15), "[a] server API" (18), "APress" (22), "is a not a" (25), "delivery Information" (43), "on how" (70), "to to" (89), "you [c]an" (94), "extention" (97), "the the" (106), "user Drupal user" (184), "se e" (198), "CMS(" (232), "both the methods" (252), "Try it both methods" (258), and "sign [in] to" (259). There are countless places where the term "the" is missing, e.g., twice on page 16. The menu path delimiter used is sometimes ">" (e.g., page 226), but usually "|," which makes each menu path look too much like page links in a footer.

However, the main problem with the narrative is that the author repeats information — in most cases not just once, but numerous times. For example, in the second chapter, we are told three times that the author will present the SOAP and FedEx shipping quotes modules. By the time the reader reaches page 33, he likely will already be tired of being told the same information. But on that page alone, the author goes over the same ground two more times. In fact, the beginning of the second paragraph sounds like a copy of the first. Compounding the problem, the author will frequently take some of the material from the main section where it is discussed, and add it to the tail end of the previous section — somewhat like a preview, but wholly unnecessary. Packt Publishing's content editors should have caught and weeded out this redundancy. Each chapter ends with a summary, which add no value and exacerbate the repetitiveness of the chapters' main content. One glaring example of redundancy, in the last chapter, is the second go-round of how to define a Twitter application, which had already been covered in Chapter 9.

Yet one advantage to repeating explanations, is that no reader will miss key instructions. This would be most advantageous to readers skimming the material at a fast pace, or anyone new to administering a Drupal website and consequently lacking in confidence. Anyone reading this book will likely be impressed by the way that the author patiently steps the reader through every process. Due to the detailed explanations, each chapter stands on its own, thereby making it possible for the reader to learn a particular topic without having to read any of the earlier chapters. This also makes the book valuable not just as the tutorial, but for reference purposes.

With clear and thorough explanations, Drupal Web Services would be an solid resource for anyone who wants to connect a Drupal-based site to any web service, including the major social media applications.

Michael J. Ross is a freelance website developer and writer.

You can purchase Drupal Web Services from amazon.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.

A month ago we noted that the legal system had put Righthaven on hold, but now redwolfe7707 noted that "A federal judge in Nevada says a Las Vegas law firm targeting unauthorized content on the Internet cannot sue others over a news company's copyrights. The Las Vegas Sun reported Tuesday the dismissal of a lawsuit by copyright enforcer Righthaven LLC against the website Democratic Underground. U.S. District Court Chief Judge Roger Hunt says copyright plaintiffs must control the rights to material in order to sue for copyright infringement."

angry tapir writes "The Cold War between the USA and the USSR may have ended in 1991, but a new conflict involving the same enemies has emerged on the digital frontier, according to McAfee's US chief security officer. Brett Wahlin, a former North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) counter intelligence agent, told Computerworld Australia that the RSA token hack in March this year – where the token information was used to infiltrate US defense contractor Lockheed Martin – used the same espionage tactics he encountered while serving as an agent from 1987 to 1991 with the US army for NATO."

CWmike writes "Recent break-ins at high-profile targets like the International Monetary Fund demonstrate just how proficient hackers have become at so-called spear phishing, researchers said on Tuesday. 'Today's spear phishing is not only more prevalent but also much more technically proficient,' said Dave Jevans, chairman of the Anti-Phishing Working Group. 'They're not going for a password, anymore; they're getting people to install crimeware on their computers.' The trend highlights the need for defenses against such targeted threats, requiring companies to look beyond security strategies focused purely on dealing with traditional network threats, analysts said. Increasingly, companies also need to focus on approaches such as continuous monitoring of networks, databases, applications and users, outbound traffic filtering and whitelisting."

Elliot Chang writes "Last month Germany announced plans to completely phase out the use of nuclear power by 2022 in favor of renewable energy sources — however what is to become of the nation's nuclear plants after they have been shut down? Enter East Germany's Wunderland Kalkar — an incredible adaptive reuse project that transformed a never-used nuclear reactor into an amusement park. The remarkable renovation attracts hundreds of thousands of visitors every year."

Frequent Slashdot contributor Bennett Haselton writes "Facebook indirectly accused Google of creating dummy accounts to log in and spider information from their site, and Google denied the charge. But if Google wants to help users discover what strangers can find out about them, then spidering Facebook with dummy accounts is exactly what they should be doing." Read on for the rest of his thoughts.

In the dust-up over the revelation that Facebook had paid a PR firm to plant negative stories about Google indexing Facebook's site, one point was often overlooked: the allegation that Google had been creating dummy Facebook accounts, and using them to log in to Facebook and spider information that was only available to Facebook users. This was denied by Google and never proven, but the denial obscures a more important point. Paradoxically, rather than hurting user privacy, it would have helped to protect user privacy in the long run if Google actually had been logging in to Facebook, spidering the information that was available to members, and making that information available in Google search results.

To review the facts not in dispute: When you create a Facebook profile, Facebook by default makes certain categories of information viewable to other users. Most of your personal information (in particular, your contact information) is viewable to other members that you confirm as your Facebook friends. A narrower set of information — usually including your name and your interests, but not including your contact information — is viewable to other Facebook members who are signed in to Facebook, but who are not in your friends list. (Let's call this the "Facebook stranger" version of your profile.) Finally, since 2007 Facebook has made an even smaller subset of information available in a "public search listing," which can be viewed without being logged in to Facebook or even having an account. Facebook explicitly stated that one reason for creating these public search listings was to make the profiles more easily findable by Google.

Now, the op-ed that Burson-Marsteller was trying to plant in the press strongly suggested that Google was using tactics like creating fake Facebook accounts in order to log into Facebook and scrape the "Facebook stranger" version of people's accounts, and not just the public search listings. (For one thing, the op-ed accused Google of likely "violating the Terms of Service" of Facebook. While scraping the public search listing obviously doesn't violate the TOS, creating dummy accounts to log in to Facebook and spider content automatically certainly does — and that's the only thing Google could do on Facebook beyond spidering the public search listing.) Of this allegation, Wired senior writer Steven Levy wrote:

This information is a lot easier to unearth from inside Facebook, but actually logging into Facebook to purloin information would indeed be troublesome. For one thing, it would violate the terms of service agreement. Is Google doing this? One of the Burson operatives implied that it is. But Google says the company does not go inside Facebook to scrape information, and I find this credible. (If Facebook has logs to prove this serious charge, let's see them.)

But why is this such a scurrilous charge anyway?

When you search for a person's name on Google, you might be looking for information about that person, or you might be doing research on what other people in the world can find about that person (particularly if that person is yourself). If a certain fact about you — for example, the members of your Facebook friends list — is viewable to anyone with a Facebook account as long as they're logged in to Facebook, then anybody in the world can obtain that information about you anyway, by getting their own Facebook account. So it's perfectly legitimate for Google to report that as a fact that anyone can find about you, if you Google your own name. You may not like the fact that Facebook exposes that information about you to anyone with a Facebook account, but it's Facebook, not Google, that makes the information available to anyone. If you Google your own name and Google tells you that that some piece of information is available to any Facebook user, Google is doing you a favor.

For that matter, it's not that easy to view your own "stranger Facebook profile" on Facebook, to see for yourself what other users can see about you. You can't just click your own profile while signed in, since that will show you all of your own personal information. You can't sign out and then click your own profile, since that will show you your public search listing (which is shown to non-logged-in users). You would have to, instead, create a second dummy Facebook account (already a violation of Facebook's TOS), which usually requires creating a second email address that you can tie to your second Facebook account, then signing in with your second account and trying to view your "real" one... How many people — even the most privacy-conscious ones who pore over every article about Facebook allegedly exposing their data — have ever tried that experiment? Having the information already spidered by Google would make it much easier.

When would you actually derive some privacy benefit from not having your "Facebook stranger" profile information listed in Google? Really, only if you're being looked up by a particularly lazy stalker who searches your name on Google — but then doesn't even bother signing in to Facebook and searching for your name on Facebook. If they're motivated enough to find you on Facebook and view your "Facebook stranger" profile there, then you've gained nothing by blocking that information from Google.

Notice this argument does not extend to some general principle that webmasters shouldn't be able to tell Google not to index parts of their website. Many websites have specified, using the Robots Exclusion Standard, that they don't want Google indexing certain documents on their site. (The Robots Exclusion Standard allows webmasters to create a file called robots.txt on their website, which tells search engines not to index any files listed in the robots.txt file. It would be technically possible for a search engine to ignore that directive and index the documents anyway, but virtually all search engines do follow it.) In that scenario, even if a document listed in robots.txt contains personal information about someone, there's no argument that "someone could find it anyway by searching, so Google is doing you a favor by listing it," because nobody would be able to find it by searching unless Google lists it. What makes Facebook a special case is that (a) it has its own search function, and (b) more importantly, it's already the place that everybody knows to go looking if they're searching for a person. These two facts mean that people can find you on there without Google's help.

That might sound unfair to Facebook — that simply because they've achieved success, different rules should apply to them, and Google ought to be allowed to violate their TOS by logging in to their system and spidering people's Facebook-stranger information. But it's the only way for Google to display honest answers, if a user comes to Google to ask: What can strangers on the Internet find out about me?

P.S.: I received many useful suggestions in response to a previous article, in which I described an algorithm for crowdsourcing the abuse-complaint-review process on Facebook, and offered a $100 prize split between users who sent in the best criticisms or improvements. So I'm going to do it again in a more free-form approach: I'll offer a $50 prize to be split between readers who email me the best negative comment or counterargument to the argument that I've just made here. Entries have to be submitted by email, although of course you can and should post your thoughts in the comment threads as well. Email bennettSPAMMERS at SUCKpeacefire dot org with "googlebot" in the subject. You can also donate your winnings to a charity of your choice.

"Bitcoin," says the project's website, "is a peer-to-peer currency. Peer-to-peer means that no central authority issues new money or tracks transactions." Wikipedia offers a readable explanation of the underlying technology. In (very) short, Bitcoin uses a distributed database and public key encryption to allow users to reassign ownership of units of Bitcoin currency (BTC), and does so in a way that can keep the user's identity private. Bitcoin isn't yet accepted the way credit cards are, but it's more than theoretical. You can buy (some) things with Bitcoin, and trade the currency itself. Now, you can ask question about Bitcoin of Amir Taaki, a developer of client interfaces and stock trading software for Bitcoin, and owner and operator of trading exchange Britcoin.co.uk. Amir requests that questions focus not "so much on the mining (too many people get focused on that when it's a minor aspect of Bitcoin) nor simple technical questions (people can go find that info themselves on Wikipedia/the forums/sourcecode)," but rather on the harder-to-answer questions. Reading some of the related stories listed below may give you ideas on what those are. Standard Slashdot Interview rules apply: ask as many questions as you want, but please keep them to one per comment. Amir will get back with his answers.

"Bitcoin," says the project's website, "is a peer-to-peer currency. Peer-to-peer means that no central authority issues new money or tracks transactions." Wikipedia offers a readable explanation of the underlying technology. In (very) short, Bitcoin uses a distributed database and public key encryption to allow users to reassign ownership of units of Bitcoin currency (BTC), and does so in a way that can keep the user's identity private. Bitcoin isn't yet accepted the way credit cards are, but it's more than theoretical. You can buy (some) things with Bitcoin, and trade the currency itself. Now, you can ask question about Bitcoin of Amir Taaki, a developer of client interfaces and stock trading software for Bitcoin, and owner and operator of trading exchange Britcoin.co.uk. Amir requests that questions focus not "so much on the mining (too many people get focused on that when it's a minor aspect of Bitcoin) nor simple technical questions (people can go find that info themselves on Wikipedia/the forums/sourcecode)," but rather on the harder-to-answer questions. Reading some of the related stories listed below may give you ideas on what those are. Standard Slashdot Interview rules apply: ask as many questions as you want, but please keep them to one per comment. Amir will get back with his answers.

"Bitcoin," says the project's website, "is a peer-to-peer currency. Peer-to-peer means that no central authority issues new money or tracks transactions." Wikipedia offers a readable explanation of the underlying technology. In (very) short, Bitcoin uses a distributed database and public key encryption to allow users to reassign ownership of units of Bitcoin currency (BTC), and does so in a way that can keep the user's identity private. Bitcoin isn't yet accepted the way credit cards are, but it's more than theoretical. You can buy (some) things with Bitcoin, and trade the currency itself. Now, you can ask question about Bitcoin of Amir Taaki, a developer of client interfaces and stock trading software for Bitcoin, and owner and operator of trading exchange Britcoin.co.uk. Amir requests that questions focus not "so much on the mining (too many people get focused on that when it's a minor aspect of Bitcoin) nor simple technical questions (people can go find that info themselves on Wikipedia/the forums/sourcecode)," but rather on the harder-to-answer questions. Reading some of the related stories listed below may give you ideas on what those are. Standard Slashdot Interview rules apply: ask as many questions as you want, but please keep them to one per comment. Amir will get back with his answers.

dotarray writes "If your parents tell you that playing video games will never get you anywhere, point them in the direction of Lucas Ordoñez. Three years ago, Lucas heard about a competition for racing game fans – the Nissan PlayStation GT Academy. Inspired, Lucas picked up a PlayStation 3 and a copy of Gran Turismo and practiced and practiced and practiced. This week, along with his teammates Franck Mailleux and Soheil Ayari, Lucas could not stop smiling as he stood on the Le Mans 24 Hours podium after taking second in class."

Prosthetic_Lips writes "A programmer named Grant Galitz has released a GameBoy Color emulator written in HTML5/JavaScript, and it will run ROM images stored locally. What's amazing is that it runs the games at a playable speed. We discussed a different, but similar project six months ago, but it seems like this one is pretty complete at this point. It's also open source."

jfruhlinger writes "LulzSec might not be as famous as Anonymous — they're really best known for hacking sites they like, to prove a point about security — but they may have just raised their profile significantly, posting what appears to be data taken from an internally facing server at the US Senate. However, the fun-loving group might find that the Senate reacts a lot more harshly to intrusions than, say, PBS did." The group also recently grabbed data from Bethesda Softworks.

An anonymous reader writes "You may recall that the US government, mainly through Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement division (ICE) has been seizing domain names over the past year, based on bad evidence, even leading to the 'accidental' seizure of 84,000 sites. While it has taken some time, the first challenge has been filed to the domain seizures, by the company Puerto 80, who runs Rojadirecta, a Spanish internet forum that was seized because users linked to streaming sporting events. Rojadirecta was declared perfectly legal (twice!) in Spain, but the challenge obviously focuses on US law, and how the seizure was improper and did not meet the qualifications for a seizure, how the seizure violates the First Amendment by being improper prior restraint on protected speech, and how Rojadirecta is not guilty of criminal copyright infringement. This could represent a very important case in determining the government's legal right to simply seize domain names."

An anonymous reader writes "You may recall that the US government, mainly through Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement division (ICE) has been seizing domain names over the past year, based on bad evidence, even leading to the 'accidental' seizure of 84,000 sites. While it has taken some time, the first challenge has been filed to the domain seizures, by the company Puerto 80, who runs Rojadirecta, a Spanish internet forum that was seized because users linked to streaming sporting events. Rojadirecta was declared perfectly legal (twice!) in Spain, but the challenge obviously focuses on US law, and how the seizure was improper and did not meet the qualifications for a seizure, how the seizure violates the First Amendment by being improper prior restraint on protected speech, and how Rojadirecta is not guilty of criminal copyright infringement. This could represent a very important case in determining the government's legal right to simply seize domain names."

An anonymous reader writes "You may recall that the US government, mainly through Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement division (ICE) has been seizing domain names over the past year, based on bad evidence, even leading to the 'accidental' seizure of 84,000 sites. While it has taken some time, the first challenge has been filed to the domain seizures, by the company Puerto 80, who runs Rojadirecta, a Spanish internet forum that was seized because users linked to streaming sporting events. Rojadirecta was declared perfectly legal (twice!) in Spain, but the challenge obviously focuses on US law, and how the seizure was improper and did not meet the qualifications for a seizure, how the seizure violates the First Amendment by being improper prior restraint on protected speech, and how Rojadirecta is not guilty of criminal copyright infringement. This could represent a very important case in determining the government's legal right to simply seize domain names."

swellconvivialguy writes "Looking at a picture of the world's largest container ship, it's easy to visualize how 10,000 containers fall overboard from these vessels every year. Scientists from the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute are now undertaking the Lost Container Cruise, an attempt to gauge the effects of shipping containers lost at sea by studying a tire-filled container, which marine biologists discovered in the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary. (The research [PDF] is being funded by a multi-million dollar settlement with the operators of the Med Taipei, the ship that lost the cargo.) The work is not unlike studying a deep water shipwreck: Use robotic submarine to take pictures and collect sediment samples; repeat."