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Re:Let the Mozilla bashing begin? by update() · 2000-10-05 22:57 · Score: 2 · on Opera 4.0b1 For Linux

It's weird to see all this Mozilla bashing going on. Yes, it has taken a long time and yes, it's not read yet but how many of you Mozilla bashers have really given Mozilla a try?...And let me tell you, the latest builds have been impressive in both speed and stability.

As a recent Mozilla basher, I'd distinguish between criticism of what the project has available today and criticism of the project's performance over the last few years. I've used M17 on MacOS and Linux, and think there's definite potential there, although it's still far from replacing IE on my Mac or even Navigator on my Linux box.

But what I think needs to be examined and hasn't been is how the open source process has worked out for Netscape. Yeah, Galeon is nice for us but I think it's clear to anyone remotely objective that the Mozilla project hasn't come close to living up to the expectations that Eric Raymond, Bruce Perens, CmdrTaco and the rest of the Open Source mafia were encouraging a few years ago. It seems to me that it's much more valuable to look at the experience and see what open source development does and doesn't do than to keep insisting that everything is going according to plan because we have a rendering engine.

Two asides:

Is anyone getting nightly builds to work on MacOS? I've been trying for a week and they keep freezing at the splash screen.
Check out CmdrTaco and Hemos' interview on Slashnet last night. The thing I thought was most interesting was how negative they are about the open source process for their own code. They seem to view it as a political obligation they need to comply with, but describe it as an unpleasant experience that contributed little to their software.

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Chat logs by drwiii · 2000-10-05 10:21 · Score: 2 · on SlashNET IRC Chat Tonight w/ CmdrTaco & Hemos

right here

Re: IRC Log by Rabenwolf · 2000-10-04 23:59 · Score: 2 · on SlashNET IRC Chat Tonight w/ CmdrTaco & Hemos

If I'm not mistaken, the log will be aviable later on the SlashNet-FTP at ftp://ftp.slashnet.org/pub/slashnet/ for ums/.

SlashNET suffers too - more detailed info by Wizard+of+OS · 2000-07-22 06:39 · Score: 3 · on ChatScan Search Engine

Being a slashnet admin I can safely say that we suffer of it too. Quoting from a mail that came over our operlist:

Okay, I just finished a meeting on Afternet, in regards to these things. Please bear with me, while I finish gathering some information about them. What it appears that they do, is a bunch of bots (between 5 and 15 per host) are loaded and they cycle channels, that are public, and gather information about said public channel, and it's then posted on some webpage somewhere. Like channel name, description, topic, current users, ops, etc. Evidently, it doesn't post channel conversation, that's remaining to be seen. However, it does use up resources, etc, that can be better spent on real users.

In response of that came the following mail of one of our admins (drdink) who did some research:

After some research with deimos and acb, we've discovered some dark secrets of this ChatScan thing. At first, it seems like a nice site which has an ActiveX interface to many IRC channels on many IRC networks. Unfortunately, we've figured out how they get updated information, such as topics and usesr, for each channel. When a user innocently uses the ActiveX applet, they connect to the destination they believed they were going to (i.e. #slashdot) BUT at the same time, the software connects to OTHER IRC NETWORKS WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE USER and does data gathering there and sends it back to the master site. This is clearly unethical. Using your usesr' bandwidth without asking or telling them first. I would suggest, since its going to be impossible to ban every single ISP, that we modify our MOTDs and AUPs (and enforce them) and then send these E-Now characters e-mails.

Only thing I can add to this is that I agree completely with the things said here. I think it's a bad thing that such a 'service' is being advertised on slashdot. But then again, the one that posted the message probably didn't know all this.

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Re:Humorless Howto by Money__ · 2000-07-08 23:15 · Score: 1 · on Leaked Quake IV Screenshots

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4) Scroll down to the bottom of the page and find a button that says savehome and click on it.

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Removing Jon Katz HowTo by Money__ · 2000-07-03 23:03 · Score: 4 · on Happy Independence Day, Jose

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4) Scroll down to the bottom of the page and find a button that says savehome and click on it.

Your /. experience will now be as informative and interesting as before but without those dreadfully trollish rantings from the tiresome and clueless yonny cats.
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Re:Slashnet by drdink · 2000-04-03 01:30 · Score: 1 · on Talk City Closing Doors To IRC

SlashNET has a JAVA client that lets you connect to the network. It's somewhat crude compared to a standard client, but it works.

Re:Slashnet by drdink · 2000-04-03 01:30 · Score: 1 · on Talk City Closing Doors To IRC

SlashNET has a JAVA client that lets you connect to the network. It's somewhat crude compared to a standard client, but it works.

Re:Notes by drwiii · 2000-01-06 01:58 · Score: 1 · on Interview: CmdrTaco and Hemos Tell All

That's something like I originally intended to do, but 1) I didn't want to attract people to my site solely for free email, 2) the abuse control / administrative tasks would be a nightmare, and 3) it'd put a significant load on the machine (which, right now, is pulling double duty as a SlashNET server)

AHA! by drwiii · 1999-11-17 05:59 · Score: 2 · on Comdex Mid-Week Quickies

The mooner's identity revealed! I think it was CowboyNeal!

Anyway, Linux Today Radio shoutcast from comdex at www.linuxtoday.com:8000 or slashnet.org:8000. Join the fun on SlashNET IRC, irc.slashnet.org.

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Impressive (Score:1)

by MtnMan1021
(jbr [at] nassau [dot] cv [dot] net) on 08:19 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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(User
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Looks like "flipz" is more than just a script kiddie: attrition lists her as having cracked jpl, duracell, people's bank, a bunch of .mils, department of veteran affairs and some other stuff. http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/flipz.ht ml

she doesn't seem to be very creative in her replacements/alterations, though.
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Re:Impressive (Score:1)

by whocares
(grey@enigma.mips4.com) on 09:42 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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Well shit, I've written my name in marker on federal buildings, phone booths, mailboxes... I'm certainly more than your average defacer of random crap. :)

Seriously. When someone releases information that's of use to someone as result of their cracking, or actually *accomplishes* something aside from defacement... maybe *then* I'll be impressed. Until then - whatever.
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Not Really (Score:2)

by Gleef
(gleef@capital.net) on 08:38 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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The sites weren't all that high security. Oooh, the "US Army Dental Care System" computer was compromized, while it is in the .mil hierarchy, I doubt that much effort went into securing it.

I'd say flipz is probably a very busy script kiddie. The cracked sites certainly don't show much imagination.
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  by TeddyR
  (syousif@iname.com) on 09:07 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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  The problem is that if a single .mil/.gov/etc site is compromised, there is the distinct possibility that other sites can be compromised. Simple example: many .mil sites only allow access to "public" web pages from other .mil sites. The same goes for .edu and .gov sites... The path to a final destination is much shorter than from "the big bad internet"... Another simple scenario would be if although THAT machine was not "secured" since it has nothing of importance on it, there is a slight posssibility that the machine is on a network segment that in turn has access to another segment that DOES have material that may be valuable to someone else...
  
  BTW: The above scenario is exactly why many "high security" sites do not allow employees to have "important" material even on their normal day-to-day office machines..
  
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uncertainty.microsoft.com (Score:0, Redundant)

by Mooset
(jwsmith@delta.is.tcu.edu) on 08:19 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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From the article:

Another non-functioning site was "uncertainty.microsoft.com." The purpose of that site was not known.

Whatever it was, that name doesn't seem to resolve anymore. I guess they must be covering their tracks for now, because fear.microsoft.com and doubt.microsoft.com also don't resolve. :-)
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Re:uncertainty.microsoft.com (Score:0)

by Anonymous Coward on 04:02 AM October 27th, 1999 GMT
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Score: 0?
Redundant?

Don't listen to that silly moderator, I
thought your post was hilarious. :)

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cracked? (Score:4, Interesting)

by Trepidity
(delirium4u@theoffspring.net) on 08:18 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT
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(User
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Hmm. The never-ending hack/crack debate. One the one hand, using "cracked" is obviously inappropriate, since the term already had a meaning in computer security prior to its application in 1984 to people who break into computers. It has, for as long as anybody remembers, described people who break the copy protection of software. This usage far predates the usage cited in the Jargon File (which itself admits to the 1984 date).

On the other hand, the term "hacked" is obviously inappropriate in this case. This system intrusion was merely the work of a script kiddie, it appears, and hence is not any sort of hacking.

We need a verb that means "broken into by a script kiddie," so as to differentiate from "broken into by an intelligent security expert" (which I'll continue to call "hacked") and from "breaking the copy protection of" (which I'll continue to call "cracked."

I personally prefer to use the term "hax0red," which, helpfully, is what they often call it themselves, so it should not be hard to have this term adopted. This differentiates from mature, intelligent people, who use "hacked," to describe their work (whatever that work may be, be it kernel hacking or NT hacking) and the script kiddies who use 3l33t sp33k to describe their work. It also allows "hax0r d00d" to be used as a convenient synonym for "script kiddie."
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Re:cracked? (Score:1)

by kijiki on 05:13 AM October 27th, 1999 GMT
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Personally, I don't see much difference between the "new" (web page) crackers and the "old" (copy protection) crackers. Both require basic assembly knowledge, and the ability to use a debugger. And lots and lots and lots and lots of time on your hands. Obviously I am ignoring those amazing buffer overruns exploits where people manage to get code in through a function that strips out all characters but '9' 'a' and 'q', but your average exploit is not that impressive an achievement. Nor is your average software crack. I fully expect to be flamed by the script kiddies and the h4x0r groupies. Please at least attempt to keep it coherent.
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Re:cracked? (Score:0)

by Anonymous Coward on 10:51 PM October 26th, 1999 GMT

Power? by drwiii · 1999-10-19 09:56 · Score: 2 · on Color Palms Announced

One thing that's on my wishlist for the Palm units is a power jack. Sure, there's hacks to get palms running on AC power (kinda like the way I busted one of my Rios open to get it running on AC), but it'd be super-neet to have it built into the model. I know the units are made for on-the-go use, but there are times when I run down a good amount of battery power when I could be using AC power. Judging solely on the battery life I get out of my PalmPro, an official AC power pack would pay for itself in the first few months. (:

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Re:slashnet? by drdink · 1999-09-21 04:56 · Score: 1 · on Dvorak On Linux And "The Big Time"

4 FreeBSD servers, 2 Linux servers, and 1 NetBSD server. Plus services run on a FreeBSD server along with the website.

SlashNET IRC - BSD and Linux by drwiii · 1999-09-21 00:47 · Score: 1 · on Dvorak On Linux And "The Big Time"

I know for a fact that a good number of SlashNET IRC servers are running under a BSD unix. There are a smaller number that run Linux. The SlashNET server that's hosted here used to run Debian, but we switched it over to FreeBSD due to some security issues.

Anyway, be sure to stop by SlashNET's #slashdot channel if you get a chance. It's fun, or something.

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Slashdot Load Testing (Continues) Posted by CmdrTaco on Mon August 30, 02:13 PM EDT
from the ain't-this-fun? dept.
Fixed so far:

Dropped http MaxClients down to 75
increased mysql max_connections to to 250

(they were 150 & 100, so we had 450 http forks fighting for 100 mysql connections. Oops! Thank god for load testing! I guess its problably good that I post another story just so that we can simulate normal Slashdot a little better: Slashdot doesn't usually have just 1 story with people posting on (well, unless we mention evolution or the GPL being violated or something) (Oh, and don't post comments with bug reports, there is no way I'll be able to keep up, email 'em. I won't reply, but I'll read it)

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Help Test Our New Server! Posted by CmdrTaco on Mon August 30, 12:51 PM EDT
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So here it is: A mirror of Slashdot (as of a week or so ago). It exists now for testing: So feel free to post comments and help test the new load balancer. For the curious, the new system has 3 http machines (P2s) and one mysql box (a dual P2) with a load balancer trying to keep everyone all equally busy. And its about time: the old setup has been really stressed out trying to keep up with everyone. Anyway, don't get to attached to any of your comments here, when we're satisfied that the new setup is stable, I'm gonna mirror over Slashdot and make the final switcheroo.

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Interview: Mandrake Answers Posted by Roblimo on Fri August 20, 12:00 PM EDT
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Monday a whole bunch of people had questions for Mandrake, one of the heavies behind Enlightenment. Slashdot Moderators picked the best ones. We forwarded them, unedited, to Mandrake on Tuesday. His (excellent) answers appear below.

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Geeks in the Space: The Attack of 5 Posted by Hemos on Thu August 19, 04:10 AM EDT
from the more-stuff-to-listen-to dept.
Well, we've done it again. Yes, Geeks in Space, Episode 5 has been released. In it, we lament the lack of good news, talk about anti-matter, and the hiring of hacks by companies. You can also become...educated in my long-term plan for the hostile takeover of a certain Redmond-based company.

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Apple announces Darwin 0.3 Posted by Hemos on Thu August 19, 12:24 AM EDT
from the more-to-download dept.
J. FoxGlov writes "Macintouch reports that v0.3 of Darwin, the open-source foundation for Mac OS X Server is available on Apple's Public Source site. Apple Developer Connection members can get it on CD for $29. Check Public Source for more about the Darwin SDK and the new Darwin. "

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Microsoft's New Audio Format Cracked Posted by Hemos on Wed August 18, 05:23 PM EDT
from the secure-this-buddy dept.
Barcode (JPB) was one of the first to send us the word from Wired that the new audio format Microsoft introduced (Two days ago), supposed to be a secure format (resricting playback) has already been cracked. Dimension Music first carried the news-and what a name the crack has *grin*.

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Find your Star Wars Twin Posted by Hemos on Wed August 18, 05:16 PM EDT
from the what-freud-really-wanted-to-do dept.
The_Monk writes "Ever wanted to know your Star Wars twin? Now this incredibly important information can be verified. It placed me the likes of Astro Mech Droids, 'Tarkin, and R2-D2. " Ahem-as the lost twin of Lando (extraversion), I have a Cloud City I'd like to sell someone. But I'm about as agreeable as Boba, always a bonus.

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Now Police Can 'See' Through Walls Posted by Roblimo on Wed August 18, 12:40 PM EDT
from the move-along-there's-nothing-to-see-here dept.
Bram writes "Just found an article about another way to invade privacy." He's talking about hand-held radar systems police can use to detect breathing, beating hearts or other motion through walls and other obstacles. Sounds like a declassified version of the Ground Support Radar [GSR] units we used years ago in the Army. I can see why police would want them, and I can also see why Bram considers them a privacy threat. Depends on how they're used, I suppose.

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FreeType posts patent warning Posted by Hemos on Wed August 18, 11:53 AM EDT
from the i-want-my-verdonna dept.
Anonymous Coward writes "According to the the FreeType web page, there have been some new concerns raised about Apple's patents on TrueType. I hope this doesn't affect the planned TrueType support in XF86 4. " It appears that they are still checking into the issue, but I'd really like TrueType support. A lot. Let's hope Apple responds nicely.

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Microsoft to "publish code" to Instant Messenger Posted by Hemos on Wed August 18, 09:49 AM EDT
from the want-more-market-share dept.
VFVTHUNTER writes "According to this article at cnet, MS, in an attempt to gain a share of AOL's Instant Messenger Service Market, announced today it is going to publish the protocol to its own messenger service. " It's important to note it's NOT the source code, just the protocol.

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