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And about your second paragraph:

1. Linux might just wind up feeding some of the world's hungry. I could see where extremely low-cost computing could certainly help Third-World countries. 100% of the web servers in .td, .ne, .lr., gq, .cf, and .dj run Linux (source: Internet Operating System Counter). Even superficially speaking, that has to create some jobs.

   You can't tell me that countries with lots of manpower and very little money wouldn't benefit from what amounts to essentially free computing power. If nothing else, Linux can help countries like Niger and Djibouti keep up in the technology game. You think they'd have that chance if they had to pay per seat to get Windows servers up? They'd have a much, much worse chance wihtout Linux around.

2. Linux is helping to sure disease. I happen to know for a fact that UCLA (among many other places) runs a rather large Linux cluster for doing things like chemical analysis for medical research. They do way more with Linux than they could ever do without Linux. Big hardware isn't cheap, and there's only so much grant money to go around -- a Linux RAIC-ish system stretches a budget to the point that the previously impossible becomes possible.

   Take a look at the Linux Medical Research HOWTO and then tell me Linux isn't helping cure disease. I'm sure that someone else here can give you first-hand experience on what Linux is doing in the medical community.

3. Linux isn't going to put a man on Mars?!? Now I know you're joking. Do you know how much Linux junk NASA runs? Hell, the driver for the NIC in every Linux box I have was written by a guy at NASA (it's the Tulip driver). And there's always Beowulf, but that probably won't do anything to help get a man on Mars.

I'm not saying Linux is a panacea, and anyone that does so is a certifiable moron who has no idea what (s)he's talking about (at least they'll be easy to identify and avoid). But to say that Linux isn't helping make some really wonderful things happen is extremely short-sighted. In fact, I'm still not convinced that you weren't joking. If I hadn't replied in this thread, I probably would have moderated it up as "funny".

-B

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This site's purpose is promotion of friendship between Japan and the other countries .I want to help friendship between Japanese and the others, and beside I want everyone to know Japanese language and Japanese culture. N.B
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A színházak már a virágzó korszak elején ellenségesen fogadták a mozit. 1908-ban született az a fõkapitányi rendelet, mely szerint tilos mozira és kabaréra a színház szó használata, mert a közönséget megtévesztheti, bár ezt a gyakorlatban nem nagyon tartották be.

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explanation in Engilish:
This site's purpose is promotion of friendship between Japan and the other countries .I want to help friendship between Japanese and the others, and beside I want everyone to know Japanese language and Japanese culture. N.B
* This is a private site.
* I can't understand languages except Japanese and English.
* This site prohibits entries and advirtisements about all of adult sites and business sites.

A színházak már a virágzó korszak elején ellenségesen fogadták a mozit. 1908-ban született az a fõkapitányi rendelet, mely szerint tilos mozira és kabaréra a színház szó használata, mert a közönséget megtévesztheti, bár ezt a gyakorlatban nem nagyon tartották be.

Visit these pages to know more about Mozilla's lifestyle:
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The Gojira Dispatch
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explanation in Engilish:
This site's purpose is promotion of friendship between Japan and the other countries .I want to help friendship between Japanese and the others, and beside I want everyone to know Japanese language and Japanese culture. N.B
* This is a private site.
* I can't understand languages except Japanese and English.
* This site prohibits entries and advirtisements about all of adult sites and business sites.

A színházak már a virágzó korszak elején ellenségesen fogadták a mozit. 1908-ban született az a fõkapitányi rendelet, mely szerint tilos mozira és kabaréra a színház szó használata, mert a közönséget megtévesztheti, bár ezt a gyakorlatban nem nagyon tartották be.

Visit these pages to know more about Mozilla's lifestyle:
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The Gojira Dispatch
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explanation in Engilish:
This site's purpose is promotion of friendship between Japan and the other countries .I want to help friendship between Japanese and the others, and beside I want everyone to know Japanese language and Japanese culture. N.B
* This is a private site.
* I can't understand languages except Japanese and English.
* This site prohibits entries and advirtisements about all of adult sites and business sites.

A színházak már a virágzó korszak elején ellenségesen fogadták a mozit. 1908-ban született az a fõkapitányi rendelet, mely szerint tilos mozira és kabaréra a színház szó használata, mert a közönséget megtévesztheti, bár ezt a gyakorlatban nem nagyon tartották be.

Visit these pages to know more about Mozilla's lifestyle:
Mozilla, your pal
Mozilla, the scientist
Mozilla, the explorer

Unfortunately, ISAP - Information Server Auxiliary Processor from Dyadic Software offers APL integration only with MSFT IIS, and does not run them as CGI programs.

On the other hand, German speakers might find something useful at Sergy Alpin's JUMP page

I hear rumor that NIAL, an APL with with a Lisp-like syntax, offers the ability to run it in CGI apps...

So, for those that feel the need to write web apps using reduction operators, preferably without ever using the diamond operator ( looping! ), it seems rather likely that there are some options available. Perfect for making use of that IBM 360 you picked up on eBay...

I somewhat think I'd rather do my APL reduction work by way of the Common Lisp (reduce #'whatever-function whatever-list) function, mind you....

There are many devices which can be controlled with infrared remote controls. Linux can use IR control signals with LIRC. Not all IR transmitters can send all signals, so some testing will be needed, and transmitters need to be near devices which they control (ie, in the same room).

Pranks living on in the commercial world isn't quite a new thing. Here's a classic: Mozilla vs. IE. This one started as a prank by a bunch of Microsoft cronies - but then backfired the next day.
Joseph Elwell.

is the link at the bottom to an Onion article, "Travolta Hospitalized with critically low E-Meter readings"

No, this actually happend a while ago (I think it was 1997 or so). I remember that after Netscape put the big Mozilla on top, they attached a sticker that said: Netscape 73%, IE 23% :)

I am currently mirroring it at http://snafu.de/~kl/netscape6/. I hope you will be able to fetch it w/o problems! This is only the Linux version! Bye, Kaspar

• PDAs/Handhelds and Linux: good summary table.
• LinuxCE: Linux for Handheld Computers.
• ucLinux: Linux on Palm Pilot.
• PC110: Linux on IBM PC110 compact computer.

I'm belgian and speaks french, that's why i think i can contribute to this discussion. I'm not quite sure what kind of help Rob requested on the home page but if it's about the content of the yahoo quebec site here is my point:

The site is quite rude, using racist and "non-politically correct" terms to point to countries and topics.
This is a kind of humor usual in europe (specially belgium - see "man bites dog") and i LOVE it. It's not to be taken seriously and people should not be offended by those jokes.
The search engine was pointing to a XXX search engine; this should be why yahoo is upset. As a result of their actions the search engine now links to the Vatican's search engine (small country in Roma where the pope lives).
It looks like the lawyers that wrote the cease and desist letter did a lot of mistakes in the letter: the name of the recipient is false and that recipient is not the one that did the site, etc...

At the bottom of the site they say it's an experience to see if yahoo was going to react like others (link to a scientology article in english) did before. they say it took 70 days from the lauching of the site to the cease and desist letter and do not comment on that lenght.

There is also a second page with more links and no search engines.

They also insist about the differences between france-french and quebec-french which is a great joke subject in french speaking countries in europe (they include a link to yahoo france on quebec. Looks to me like a revenge.

Conclusion: Yahoo is upset cause of the racist and sexual content of the site. They did not a lot of research on who operated the site and the guys react quick.

With the rising awareness of the pros coming with community-based free software, we might be actually going into the right direction, which in my eyes is some sort of a ecologically sound anarcho-socialistic geek society. As more and more official instances come to their senses and hop into the OSS-bandwagon, things are starting to look somewhat optimistic for that anarcho-sosialistic geek -part. No more senseless rip offs by absurd software license fees, gibberishly EULAs and capitalistic proprietary "solutions" to restrict end-users from fixing broken things (instead of buying that be-all-end-all solution for the problems they call Version Update), or tying people into just one (bad) solution. Real freedom to innovate voluntarily (according to ability) and share the innovations (according to needs).

Here's hoping that EU, US and pretty much everyone else follows the Chinese example. There's no sense to go with anything but the most open standards and customisable solutions, least on the national level. We should let the best software development model (not the economical pressure) dictate the winner in this one.

And the with the cover art (and background information - you all read that, right?) of O'Reilly's, the fore-mentioned ecological part has a good start as well (it still needs much more attention). See Linux Ecology HOWTO.

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