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Especially 16 1.75L bottles of liquor... that's just a little more expensive than 16 1.75's of Senator's Club Vodka

Not that anyone is still reading... :)

I'm surprised people portray school teachers as borderline panhandlers. They vary WIDELY, as does per pupil school spending which varies by about 6:1.

NEA survey of salaries & spending

Private school teachers, esp. parochial, often make less than unionized public school teachers. I don't know how much teachers *should* make, but there are professions in worse shape.

Actually, I'd say the NEA data is pretty much worthless because averages entire states and does not factor in some sort of COLA. The COLA between NYC and SD is *huge*. Also, states vary internally. I see that my state, VA, spends ~$6,000/pupil, pretty low on the list, while DC looks staggering at $13k. However, my county of Arlington, across the Potomac from DC, spends $12.5k. I again don't know the "right" number, but the averages are misleading. Medians would be slightly better.

Here is a more nuanced survey of VA salaries, which vary nearly 2:1 intrastate. When I lived in IL, spending varied nearly 6:1. (Here is NYC.) Our salaries are not proportionally as high as our spending per pupil (don't forget to factor in classs size BTW :), and the ironic thing is that many of the teachers can't afford to live in the county, which is not at all ritzy. Median home (note, not average!) value has reached $350k, double since I moved here 5 years ago(!). Anyway, one needs to look at context or the numbers mean nothing.

Versus sanitation workers it appears the teachers, education notwithstanding, make similar wages. Before someone chimes in to rag on the quality of teachers, at least some (or many) are good and deserve to be paid accordingly. And, before I get one of *those* people, no, "throwing money at something" does not guarantee fixing it. Choking off its air supply does guarantee results. (I hate that stupid argument.)

If NYC sanitation workers don't like their wages, they can convey they effectively by smell --- strike. Teachers have less colorful options, though I suppose closing the schools and sending kids home is pretty cruel. :)

As you can see, I'm starting off the new year cranky. Let's hope it lasts. ;-)

(1) Forums/websites etc. are not nearly as immune from discovery (the formal process of discovering information) as they like to pretend. For instance, a recent decision by the Virginia Supreme Court held that AOL is not immune from a subpoena issued by a California court in a libel case.

(2) In order to get discovery from the forum, you will need to initiate a lawsuit. There are two ways you can go. If you have a reasonable idea of who the perpetrator is, you can sue them on theory alone. If you have no idea of the actual identity, you can bring a "John Doe" suit, and then seek third-party discovery to uncover the identity of the defendant.

(3) You need a lawyer to do any of this. Depending on where you are, the severity of the attack, the potential damages, and the ability to easily reach the suspected perpetrator, you may be able to find an attorney to handle this on a contingency basis. Unfortunately, because libel cases are notoriously hard to win, and don't usually pay a lot in damages, this may be very difficult.

(4) if you have business insurance you should check if it covers this type of claim.

A closing point: I have said before that the popularity of the internet didn't alter the fundamentals of libel and slander. It is cases like these (taking the poster at face value) that demonstrate what I mean. Just because the actionable speech is in an online forum instead of in a newspaper, or on the radio doesn't mean that it is fundamentally different than those media. On the flip side, there are significant protections built into the U.S. libel law, and those protections generally discourage all but the most serious and meritorious suits.

Good luck with you problem. It would be interesting to hear greater detail (what forum? what type of business? etc.).

automandc

...Why not just take the seller to Small Claims Court? You could recover the goods you brought and/or the money you spent. It all depends were you live, of course.

> but don't brag about it until/unless it helps you crack the case.

Supposedly in another recent case it yeilded a point across the street from the perpetrator's residence.

I'm not sure that putting this technology into everybody's homes is going to necessarily make things better. Aren't people sedentary enough? And certainly putting speakers behind the walls is only of concern for people who can afford to have a speaker asthetic.

Also, check out this part of the article:

Even waking up in the morning is a high-tech venture. His alarm clock neither beeps nor buzzes; instead, music begins to play, curtains open on sunshine and lights switch on. And in the bathroom, the shower starts flowing.

Unless he's the type to leap right out of bed and zip into the bathroom, isn't that a big waste of water? I know that it's not as big of a deal in Indiana, I guess, but it still seems like extravagant wastefulness to have someone "start the shower" for you (I always jump right in, and just give a little shudder for the half second of cold water). In Virginia, we have a drought that's so bad we now have mandatory water restrictions.

While his house is indeed "cool", I don't see this really "benefiting" humankind any more than, say, Theater Surround systems or MP3 players. They're neat, they're fun, and they're great for people who can afford them. But the truth is automated (or at least the best equivalent at the time) houses have been around forever, and always among the wealthiest of the population.

• Virginia NRA
• Virginia Tobacco

• Virginia NRA
• Virginia Tobacco

VA DMV Website

As for bars building a database, is anyone really surprised? I'm not - profiling your customers without their knowledge (or with minimal indication) is fast becoming the Great American Pastime.

Privacy Be Damned, When There's Profit Potential!

The more and more I search, the more it looks like at least in VA, this could be somewhat illegal.

The Virginia ID card and drivers license form state:

The information provided on this application is for DMV's record-keeping purposes and may be disseminated in accordance with 46.2-345.

46.2-345 states:

G. Any personal information, as identified in 2.2-3801, which is retained by the Department from an application for the issuance of a special identification card is confidential and shall not be divulged to any person, association, corporation, or organization, public or private, except to the legal guardian or the attorney of the applicant or to a person, association, corporation, or organization nominated in writing by the applicant, his legal guardian, or his attorney. This subsection shall not prevent the Department from furnishing the application or any information thereon to any law-enforcement agency.

The Department of Transportation is NOT considered a law enforcement agency, is it?. I'm sure this can seen differently by others.

If your VA license number is your SSN, it probably violates other information reporting laws also.

The more and more I search, the more it looks like at least in VA, this could be somewhat illegal.

The Virginia ID card and drivers license form state:

The information provided on this application is for DMV's record-keeping purposes and may be disseminated in accordance with 46.2-345.

46.2-345 states:

G. Any personal information, as identified in 2.2-3801, which is retained by the Department from an application for the issuance of a special identification card is confidential and shall not be divulged to any person, association, corporation, or organization, public or private, except to the legal guardian or the attorney of the applicant or to a person, association, corporation, or organization nominated in writing by the applicant, his legal guardian, or his attorney. This subsection shall not prevent the Department from furnishing the application or any information thereon to any law-enforcement agency.

The Department of Transportation is NOT considered a law enforcement agency, is it?. I'm sure this can seen differently by others.

If your VA license number is your SSN, it probably violates other information reporting laws also.

The more and more I search, the more it looks like at least in VA, this could be somewhat illegal.

The Virginia ID card and drivers license form state:

The information provided on this application is for DMV's record-keeping purposes and may be disseminated in accordance with 46.2-345.

46.2-345 states:

G. Any personal information, as identified in 2.2-3801, which is retained by the Department from an application for the issuance of a special identification card is confidential and shall not be divulged to any person, association, corporation, or organization, public or private, except to the legal guardian or the attorney of the applicant or to a person, association, corporation, or organization nominated in writing by the applicant, his legal guardian, or his attorney. This subsection shall not prevent the Department from furnishing the application or any information thereon to any law-enforcement agency.

The Department of Transportation is NOT considered a law enforcement agency, is it?. I'm sure this can seen differently by others.

If your VA license number is your SSN, it probably violates other information reporting laws also.

In my home state of Virginia, for example, we can access a number of state services online, including almost all DMV services. This has been around for several years. And, like in France, a lot more will be in place by 2005.

If you are really interested in seeing the government online, the Legislative Information System in Virginia will let you track movement of bills between chambers of the General Assembly and in and out of committees and subcommittees, view sponsors and amendments, let you know the outcome of votes after each stage, and tell you whether the Governor approved or vetoed the measure. The data go back to 1994.

In my home state of Virginia, for example, we can access a number of state services online, including almost all DMV services. This has been around for several years. And, like in France, a lot more will be in place by 2005.

If you are really interested in seeing the government online, the Legislative Information System in Virginia will let you track movement of bills between chambers of the General Assembly and in and out of committees and subcommittees, view sponsors and amendments, let you know the outcome of votes after each stage, and tell you whether the Governor approved or vetoed the measure. The data go back to 1994.

If you live in Virginia (and many geeks do) your AG is Randolph Beales. Here is the contact information for his office:

Snail Mail:
Office of the Attorney General
900 East Main Street
Richmond, VA 23219

Website:
http://www.oag.state.va.us/

Phone:
(804)786-2071
(804) 371-8946 TDD

Email:
mail@oag.state.va.us

Cheers,
Segfault

If you live in Virginia (and many geeks do) your AG is Randolph Beales. Here is the contact information for his office:

Snail Mail:
Office of the Attorney General
900 East Main Street
Richmond, VA 23219

Website:
http://www.oag.state.va.us/

Phone:
(804)786-2071
(804) 371-8946 TDD

Email:
mail@oag.state.va.us

Cheers,
Segfault

I used to work for a company that makes money as a Seat Management partner for the state of VA. What this means is that the company does something similar to leasing equipment to the state. This company is one of 4 or so 'approved vendors'. Each vendor offers a set number of packages, each standardized around offerings from Dell or Gateway or Compaq. To my knowledge they all ship w/ Windows, tho some would go out w/ a totally blank disk. These include servers, all of which at the time were NT 4. This was pushed by the Republicans Governor's office, but didn't seem to be taken too fondly by the different departments.

FROM http://www.seatmanagement.state.va.us/ - " a program that bundles a desktop PC and a suite of necessary support options for Virginia agencies and institutions. Your organization can transfer the responsibility of supporting the life cycle of desktop computers and servers, in exchange for a nominal fixed "per seat" fee. This fee includes: a new PC every 1, 2, or 3 years, project management, initial desktop rollout plan, configuration, installation, user orientation on new PC, maintenance, asset management, disposal and technology refresh, plus optional services."

Does this scare anyone else?

Not so in Virginia.

18.2-344. says

Any person, not being married, who voluntarily shall have sexual intercourse with any other person, shall be guilty of fornication, punishable as a Class 4 misdemeanor.

Now why these laws are not used to prosecute teen fathers is beyond me.

Not so in Virginia.

18.2-344. says

Any person, not being married, who voluntarily shall have sexual intercourse with any other person, shall be guilty of fornication, punishable as a Class 4 misdemeanor.

Now why these laws are not used to prosecute teen fathers is beyond me.

We should wear our halloween mask all day this coming halloween, and visit popular retail stores (Borders, for example) or cities using facial recognition software. Mayhaps we can get The Alien loaded into national crime databases for jaywalking.

Just make sure it is on Halloween, doing it on any other day of the year in VA is a felony.

In Virginia it is a crime for anyone over 16 years old to wear a mask that covers the face in public, unless it's medical, or a holiday costume.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co d+18.2-422

It shall be unlawful for any person over sixteen years of age while wearing any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device. The violation of any provisions of this section shall constitute a Class 6 felony.

This is you? I am impressed! Too bad for your sake that I'm not some cute blonde 19 year old impressed coed, but I am impressed all the same.... I've always wondered how you verify the discovery / recovery of a new / rare species. Usually I wonder this right when some cool looking gold-shelled beetle with emerald green eyes lands nearby and I wonder if this is a new species that I could name cybrpnkii bugii.... Please allow me to read between the lines of your postings and make a comment or two. So what if nobody else around you thinks trees are cool or even doesn't care about your solid achievements as a naturalist? What you care about IS important, whether anybody shares that with you or not, and deep inside you obviously know that. The world is full of people who don't care and own chain saws. The day that the few people like you stop caring about conservation is the day the last field gets paved over, and that will be a very bad day indeed. It's people like you who poke around under rocks in the forest (so to speak) that have given all of us the keys to genetic engineering and leads on a cure for cancer. This is important even tho the financial rewards are often lacking...So best of wishes on your wildlife pursuits, and who knows, I'm a Tennessee native (Go Vols!) living in north Alabama, if I ever bump in to you in Gatlinburg or the Smokies, the drinks are on me! -cybrpnk (rickyjames@email.com)

Well, Virginia is a Commonwealth, as any Virginian knows, so that might be part of the problem!

Nice to see a federal judge treat domain names like real estate. Hopefully this sends a signal to Network Solutions that domains are not "like telephone numbers". I'll see your circuit court judge and raise a US district court judge.

I live in VA, and have been reading the various secions of UCITA on the states website. But speaking only English, I got a little lost in the laywer speak.

RMS, has some interesting points in what UCITA could do... but I would like to see someone translate the document into something readable by a lay person (or computer geek).

Is UCITA really this evil Micro$oft friendly thing, or is it just raising the bar for the Open Source (and free) software community?

I also am from Virginia. Yes, the UCITA legislation has passed. HoweverThere was also a resolution passed that the Joint Commission on Technology and Science would study the impact of the legislation and report back to the General Assembly by December 1, 2000. Furthermore, the UCITA legislation is not set to take effect until July 1, 2001.
It is not too late.

Write to your state senators and representatives (not your federal congressional representatives, but the ones that represent you in the state legislature - which you can find here - although it probably couldn't hurt to write to everyone in the state legislature if you are motivated to do so). Refer to the Uniform Computer Informations Transactions Act, or SB372 (from 2000 legistlative session) or CHAP996 (the actual additions to the Code of Virginia). Explain to them nicely, coherently, and concisely why UCITA is bad for Virginia, its citizens, and even its businesses. Point out how the other states have been unwilling to adopt UCITA and why.

UCITA can still be repealed in Virginia. Now is also the time to redouble our efforts towards that goal.

I live in Virginia, and I worked closely with Senator Couric during the 1998 General Session.

For the record, Emily Couric is a Democrat. She is also the sister of Katie Couric of the Today show (if you didn't know that already). You have definitely made progress if she will truly work to repeal UCITA in Virginia.

However, I must add that Senator Couric was a patron of this bill along with the majority of the Democrats in the Senate. She also voted to pass the bill along with 38 others [out of 40] in the Senate.

Because of this, I find it hard to trust what she (or any other Senator) said about UCITA. Senator Couric may indeed have had a change of heart, but I doubt it. However, only time will tell.

If the Richmond Times-Dispatch (Central Virginia's major newspaper) reports on anything regarding UCITA, especially Senator Couric's involvement (probably early next year), I'll be sure to pass it on.
- Armage Bedar
The STATS Man

I live in Virginia, and I worked closely with Senator Couric during the 1998 General Session.

For the record, Emily Couric is a Democrat. She is also the sister of Katie Couric of the Today show (if you didn't know that already). You have definitely made progress if she will truly work to repeal UCITA in Virginia.

However, I must add that Senator Couric was a patron of this bill along with the majority of the Democrats in the Senate. She also voted to pass the bill along with 38 others [out of 40] in the Senate.

Because of this, I find it hard to trust what she (or any other Senator) said about UCITA. Senator Couric may indeed have had a change of heart, but I doubt it. However, only time will tell.

If the Richmond Times-Dispatch (Central Virginia's major newspaper) reports on anything regarding UCITA, especially Senator Couric's involvement (probably early next year), I'll be sure to pass it on.
- Armage Bedar
The STATS Man

On a side note, Virginia's Joint Commission on Science and Technology is holding meetings regarding UCITA. Here is the schedule. The next one is in Lynchburg VA on September 12. The next one is at George Mason on October 17.

This is your opportunity to let the people in charge know.

On a side note, Virginia's Joint Commission on Science and Technology is holding meetings regarding UCITA. Here is the schedule. The next one is in Lynchburg VA on September 12. The next one is at George Mason on October 17.

This is your opportunity to let the people in charge know.

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Criminal Courts involve the State (one of the 50, or the United States) vs. an individual. There is a prosecutor and a defendant.

Criminal courts can also involve Commonwealths, of which there are 4, not just States (46). For instance, if you were in Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, or Virginia, your case would be known as Commonwealth of KY/MA/PA/VA v. Joe Schmoe. Everywhere else, it's The People of the State of California v. John Doe.

One example of the status of Commonwealth for these four states was one famous case in the 1920s: Commonwealth of Massachusetts v. Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti.

I know it's nitpicky, but I just felt like pointing that out.

awkwardone

Considering that AOL's servers are located in VA, all email to AOL is received in Virginia. This is part of the reason that AOL wanted the anti-spam law, so they could go after spammers like this one and slap them with nice hefty lawsuits.

The particular section of the bill (18.2-152.4) reads:

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to use a computer or computer network without authority and with the intent to:

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7. Falsify or forge electronic mail transmission information or other routing information in any manner in connection with the transmission of unsolicited bulk electronic mail through or into the computer network of an electronic mail service provider or its subscribers.

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C. Any person who violates this section shall be guilty of computer trespass, which offense shall be punishable as a Class 3 misdemeanor. If there is damage to the property of another valued at $2,500 or more caused by such person's reckless disregard for the consequences of his act in violation of this section, the offense shall be punished as a Class 1 misdemeanor. If there is damage to the property of another valued at $2,500 or more caused by such person's malicious act in violation of this section, the offense shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony.

Virginia - SB 881 Computer Crimes Act; electronic mail

Original Slashdot Story - Virgina Criminalizes spam, ACLU against it

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"RESOLVED by the House of Delegates, the Senate concurring, That a joint subcommittee be established to study the Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act."

"RESOLVED by the House of Delegates, the Senate concurring, That a joint subcommittee be established to study the Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act."

"RESOLVED by the House of Delegates, the Senate concurring, That a joint subcommittee be established to study the Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act."

"RESOLVED by the House of Delegates, the Senate concurring, That a joint subcommittee be established to study the Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act."

Here is the info on it for the House. HB-561

Here is a link to the COMPUTER SERVICES AND USES section of the website.

James

Here is the info on it for the House. HB-561

Here is a link to the COMPUTER SERVICES AND USES section of the website.

James

Here is the info on it for the House. HB-561

Here is a link to the COMPUTER SERVICES AND USES section of the website.

James

5. Page 40, introduced, after line 35
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The Joint Commission on Technology and Science (JCOTS) shall study the impact of the Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act (UCITA) on Virginia business, libraries, and consumers. JCOTS shall appoint a subcommittee to advise the Commission on its work. The members of the subcommittee shall include the following: two members of the Senate, two members of the House, a representative of the Northern Virginia Technology Council, a representative of the Virginia Manufacturing Association, a representative of the insurance industry, a representative of the public libraries and a representative of the Richmond Technology Council. JCOTS shall issue a written report to the General Assembly before December 1, 2000.

6. Page 40, introduced, after amendment No. 5
insert
2. That the provisions of this act shall become effective on July 1, 2001.

5. Page 40, introduced, after line 35
insert
The Joint Commission on Technology and Science (JCOTS) shall study the impact of the Uniform Computer Information Transactions Act (UCITA) on Virginia business, libraries, and consumers. JCOTS shall appoint a subcommittee to advise the Commission on its work. The members of the subcommittee shall include the following: two members of the Senate, two members of the House, a representative of the Northern Virginia Technology Council, a representative of the Virginia Manufacturing Association, a representative of the insurance industry, a representative of the public libraries and a representative of the Richmond Technology Council. JCOTS shall issue a written report to the General Assembly before December 1, 2000.

6. Page 40, introduced, after amendment No. 5
insert
2. That the provisions of this act shall become effective on July 1, 2001.

Someone commented a few days ago that people are taking information sources for granted... PLEASE take time to confirm your facts.

According to the Virginia government website at http://leg1.state.va.us/lis.htm, UCITA has been passed by the house, but after that was sent to the state senate where it is in committee as of 2/16/00.

Status from http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi -bin/legp504.exe?001+sum+HB561

02/15/00 House: VOTE: PASSAGE (95-Y 2-N 1-A)
02/15/00 House: Communicated to Senate
02/16/00 Senate: Received
02/16/00 Senate: Constitutional reading dispensed
02/16/00 Senate: Referred to Committee on General Laws

Corresponding official sources for MD UCITA (House Bill 19, Senate Bill 142) are http://mlis.state.md.us/2000rs/bil lfile/HB0019.htm and http://mlis.state.md.us/2000rs/bil lfile/sb0142.htm

Someone commented a few days ago that people are taking information sources for granted... PLEASE take time to confirm your facts.

According to the Virginia government website at http://leg1.state.va.us/lis.htm, UCITA has been passed by the house, but after that was sent to the state senate where it is in committee as of 2/16/00.

Status from http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi -bin/legp504.exe?001+sum+HB561

02/15/00 House: VOTE: PASSAGE (95-Y 2-N 1-A)
02/15/00 House: Communicated to Senate
02/16/00 Senate: Received
02/16/00 Senate: Constitutional reading dispensed
02/16/00 Senate: Referred to Committee on General Laws

Corresponding official sources for MD UCITA (House Bill 19, Senate Bill 142) are http://mlis.state.md.us/2000rs/bil lfile/HB0019.htm and http://mlis.state.md.us/2000rs/bil lfile/sb0142.htm

I'm a member of the Virginia Piedmont Technology Council, a group of tech business owners interested in making an impact on law and business methods in Central Virginia and Virginia as a whole. There's something like half a dozen other tech councils in the state.

You'd think that an organization like the VPTC would be all about fighting a law like UCITA. Lots of small companies, like mine, have no reason to be for UCITA. And the VPTC is made up primarily of small companies.

But, nope. The VPTC has made no moves to oppose UCITA and, in fact, I've been told that the tech council is in favour of it. But no official stance has been made.

Naturally, the other tech councils, from northern Virginia, are all for UCITA. (Their members include AOL & such.)

So, why isn't VPTC yelling like crazy? Because it's a social game. Why would VPTC oppose a law that, in their (our?) eyes, will almost certainly pass? Then they'd alienate the other tech councils, and be looked down upon by them. Also, VA's Secretary of Technology (the only position like it in the US) is all for UCITA, naturally, because he probably gets political donations for his party (read as: kickbacks), which primarily come from big companies like UUNet and AOL.

So, yeah, it'll pass. Because only the consumers are willing to make a big deal about this. But the people that we have to make a big deal at just aren't interested in hearing about it.

Yep, it's lame. And I intend to let the VPTC know about how I feel. (I'd be surprised if anybody on the board reads /.) But that's politics.

Ugly, huh?

Sorry about that

http://leg1.s tate.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=001&typ=bil&val =sb372

When I saw that people on slashdot were saying the UCITA had passed in Virginia, I got scared, so I checked it out myself. I work here in VA, and of course such a bill would have direct impact on my job... By the way: UCITA HAS NOT PASSED IN VIRGINIA. It has only passed the State Senate, and not in the House of Reps. (in case you don't know...it must pass both before actually law) Several RESOLUTIONS were passed to further study the effects of what UCITA will be on this great Commonwealth, and to not pass the bill completely, but to give findings of the study by December 1st. So there is still time to fight this bill. If you live in VA please get in contact with your senator and delegate NOW! To actually see the bill and resolutions: Click Here.

There, UCITA has been passed by the Legislature and is awaiting signature by Governor Jim Gilmore.

Only the Legislature has passed the bill. The Senate is still reviewing it. You can find bills and amendments at this site by searching for UCITA. The bill in the Senate has been referred to a committee which is to report back no later than December 1, 2000 (as of Valentine's Day). IANAL, but my understanding of Virginian law from reading the VA constitution is that both houses (the Legislature and the Senate) must pass the bill before it can become law, and they must always go through a committee before they can be voted on.

This doesn't change the need for calm activism against UCITA, but the situation is not as dire as it appears to be. Please, please, check your facts before posting a story.

Perhaps you should read it a bit more carefully.

What was stricken from the docket was a resolution to study the UCITA. Check this out if you don't believe me.

The UCITA itself is HB561, here, and was passed with a 95 to 2 vote. Not quite unanimous, but damned close. It was passed today, 2/15.


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Perhaps you should read it a bit more carefully.

What was stricken from the docket was a resolution to study the UCITA. Check this out if you don't believe me.

The UCITA itself is HB561, here, and was passed with a 95 to 2 vote. Not quite unanimous, but damned close. It was passed today, 2/15.


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