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whats hilarious, is that it seems that no one read the translation of the article.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10 343838&&#post10343838

the article talks about making "blue light HD DVD" for walmart. blue light? as in blu-ray?!?!?

furthermore, it goes on to talk about a partnership with TDK. everyone knows that TDK is a blu-ray-only partner. they developed the durabis coating that protects the discs. to my knowledge, they dont even offer hd-dvd products.
http://www.tdk.com/consumer/bluray/index.html

walmart is going to flood the market with blu-ray players, NOT HD DVD players!!!!

TDK actually has made six-layer 200 GB blu-ray disks, way back in 2006 :) http://www.tdk.com/procommon/press/article.asp?sit e=con&recid=127

The 100 year archival quality CD's were only the pressed CD-ROMs made with high quality dies... not the mass procuced CDs that AOL ships out and especially not CD-Rs.

I have definitely seen 100 year claims on CDR "archival" media. As have other people as is evident in the comments here under this story. Now I am not claiming that they can actually do it, I am just stating the claims of some manufacturers.

The real question would be who is marketing and specing CD-R manufacturing for archival quality CDs and have specs guarenteeing that they will last 10+ years without failing? There must be somebody out there doing that, but I don't know of them myself.

Here are the claims:

Delkin CDR 300 years!
Delkin DVDR 100 years.
TDK CDR 100 years.
Memorex CDR 100 years.
Claims of Fuji CDR 70-100 years and Kodak 100-200 years!
Some brand I've never heard of with 100 year CDR's but 1 year warrantee. ; )
Verbatim CDR 100 years.

Etc, etc, etc.

Someone else posted here that some company provides a 100 year warrantee and I have also seen that TDK once made such a ridiculous offer too.

Whatever the deal is, it is certainly WELL over the 5 year maximum that "expert" claims.

Well, there's what banks do with their optical media, which is have the glass master stored in a safe deposit box. A glass master for a DVD costs about $1000 , CD costs about $700. (Googled from http://www.cddvdking.com/ ).

Barring that, you can buy TDK professional media ( http://www.tdk.com/professional/ )

Also, googling for Archival CDR reveals a review on the subject by photo.net at http://www.photo.net/mjohnston/column53/, which leads to the $3-a-disk Archival stuff here. http://store.mam-a-store.com/standard---archive-go ld.html

Hope this helps.

TDK CD-R media had a 100 year guarantee printed right on the package. I can't tell you if it was BS or not but TDK seems to take their work seriously. No rebranding, new R&D (that scratchproof coating) and pride in their work. They even have a CD-R for long term digital photo storage. I can't tell you if it is really anything special or just marketing BS, but take a look.

Any how the biggest killers are UV, heat and moisture. Stop those 3 and you should be making the most of any brand. Mabey inside a pelican case w/ desicant inside a bank safe deposite box? Ehhhh overkill, I know.

TDK CD-R media had a 100 year guarantee printed right on the package. I can't tell you if it was BS or not but TDK seems to take their work seriously. No rebranding, new R&D (that scratchproof coating) and pride in their work. They even have a CD-R for long term digital photo storage. I can't tell you if it is really anything special or just marketing BS, but take a look.

Any how the biggest killers are UV, heat and moisture. Stop those 3 and you should be making the most of any brand. Mabey inside a pelican case w/ desicant inside a bank safe deposite box? Ehhhh overkill, I know.

Use the new TDK ArmorPlate coating, for example at:

http://www.tdk.com/recmedia/dvd/armorplateddvd.htm l

I haven't been a member of my current library too long (about 3 years), but they've held PC games there for that entire time. The biggest problem is the condition of the CD's. Just like with music CD's, PC CD's at libraries are TERRIBLY mistreated. Until a more durable disc is used for production CD/DVD's such as TDK's "armor plated" discs (http://www.tdk.com/recmedia/dvd/index.html), providing console games is a waste of time.

According to TDK's site, they already have DVD-R media with that coating.

Forgive me if wrong, wasn't Amiga cursed by the BladeRunner curse? Are these the same thing?

No. You must mistake it with Atari. In "Blade Runner", we see many advertisings of companies really existing in the early 1980's, and indeed most of them went into dire troubles in mid and late 1980's. First of all, Coca-Cola entered the whole mess of the "new Coke", that even the company itself calls now "marketing infamy. And that's an euphemism, actually. Then there was Bell (antitrusted just after the theatrical release of Blade Runner), Pan Am and Atari. However, the curse seems now to be extinct. Atari returned now in big style, Coca-Cola is no longer in trouble, and even Pan Am returned (in a way). There was also one excemption from this curse - TDK (a huge TDK advertising is a backrop to the death of Roy Batty in the BR's finale grande).

I'm not sure if the Plextor drive came out first, but TDK also offers an 8X CDR/CDRW +- drive as well. We've been selling them at our store for over a week now. Link to 8x drive at TDK

Once I get the headphones sorted ouf I'm thinking of getting some t-shirts printed.

A DVD has a volume of 13.56 cm^3, and stores up to 17 GB (2 sides, each dual layered). That yields a density of 1.25 GB/cm^3, and I was being generous by including the hole in the volume measurement. Surely they can do better.

Also, seeing as this hasn't come out yet, it will compete with other future products, like blueray, which weighs in at 23.3 GB/side and 3.4 GB/cm^3.

Although they are of a similar tech, what about DVD recordable disks? I've got plenty of those now...

This would be as good a place as any to mention TDK's Armor Plated DVD Media, which are supposed to keep on working even after having been scoured with steel wool pads. Also, Verbatim makes a line of scratch-resistant CD-R media.

How is he wrong?

I just bought a Pioneer A06 which is multiformat.

For those keeping count at home of the multiformat drives, that gives us Sony's dru500/510 series, Pioneer A06, TDK's indiDVD multiformat burner, and Memorex's dual format burner. Seems like most companies are jumping on the 'both' wagon.

TDK recently came out with a new line of "Armor Plated" DVDs which are supposed to virtually eliminate the problem with scratch sensitivity. From the press release..."Compared to standard blank media, the new TDK Armor Plated discs provide a remarkable 100 times greater resistance to damage from everyday use such as scratches, dirt, fingerprints and other contaminants."

Actually the most interesting thing about the press release is that they cleverly avoid the whole Plural Acronyms Controversy by referring to the discs collectively as "DVD media" and "DVD discs".

"Both the Muvo and mp302 run on one AAA, giving 12 hours of continuous playback."

"Innogear has released the 128MB Duex mp302"

I don't get it. Sure you get 12 hours of playback, but even at the mediocre MP3 quality of 128kbps, audio is a megabyte a minute. So at 128MB, you just get to hear the same 2 albums over and over again for 12 hours, and if you want to listen to other albums, you have to upload them. The price for these memory units/sticks/cards/whatever-a particular-device-uses is just inexorably stupid to settle for as a consumer. I couldn't be happier with my $119.00 CD-Based MP3 Player . It has never skipped on me (it loads 8 minutes of track [longer than 99% of tracks] straight to memory, then the disc stops spinning.) and with it , I get over ten hours of 128kbps music per disc and carry as many discs as I want, and because the disc only spins to read, I get 10-12 hours of listening time per battery set, and the unit I have has a built-in recharger.

Until these trinkets come with 512MB of memory, there's no way they can compete with my 25 cent 700MB storage units for the same quality experience. Sure, if you dont want to stick a CD-player in your pocket to jog (which I do with no problems), then the little guys are fine. But if you're just gonna use it to jog, get an earbud radio for $25 bucks.

The only people who buy these trinket MP3 players seem to me to be the people who get them as some sort of status symbol. I can really see no other good popular reasons.

Not true. The giant red neon logo in one of the most famous scenes in the movie belongs to a well-known company that is still in very good health.

Best of all, (and unlike the Rio Volt SP250), it has a quite usable UI that lets you search your disks for MP3's by Artist, Title, Genre and so on. (On the other hand, the Rio has an FM tuner, and plays WMA files too). The UI is what sold me on this unit, it really is the make-or-break.

$128 at buy.com

It plays normal CD's, CD-R's and CD-RW's. It has up to 8 minutes of shock protection for MP3's (it actually spins down the disk). It uses normal AA batteries. It can play MP3's no matter how you organize them on the disk, not limited to root directory. And best of all it has a really nice UI on its LCD screen. Don't take my word for it, read another review here.

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It plays normal CD's, CD-R's and CD-RW's. It has up to 8 minutes of shock protection for MP3's (it actually spins down the disk). It uses normal AA batteries. It can play MP3's no matter how you organize them on the disk, not limited to root directory. And best of all it has a really nice UI on its LCD screen. Don't take my word for it, read another review here.

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For example, the MiniDisk, also by Sony, is technically superior to the CD

BETA wasn't guaranteed to succeed

The EE Times article pointed out that this technology is supposed to scale up to higher density and eventually move over to DVDs. (Also note that TDK has virtually the same press release on this page .This means it might be a cheaper way for us to get to HD-DVD than waiting for cheap blue lasers. I agree that we don't want another limited utility Sparc/Clik/LS120 device, but if the underlying tech gets added onto the CDR or DVD-R specs at some point, then it could be a positive development.

I again sense this particular one being designed less for the progress of information storage technology, and more to provide TDK with their own unique storage format.

Already they have Sanyo, Plextor and Mitsubishi lined up so it's not just TDK going at it alone. Of course they'd love to get royalties on this, but that means they'd want the technology to be widespread. Finally, let's not forget that in terms of storage density they'll be competing with the will-it-ever-get-released FMD drive from Ricoh and Constellation.