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Re: Have a nice time
Child deaths by firearms accidents are usually the result of an adult being irresponsible with their guns, typically by leaving them accessible or by not following the Four Rules of Gun Safety. I would love to see parents be more responsible with their guns *period*, especially around their children.
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Re:OUCH
Doing the math on the rotor blades,
.325kg * 175m/s * 0.5 = ~28.4 the tips carry approximately 28 joules of energy assuming they don't separate from the rotor head.Kinetic energy is (1/2)(m)(v^2), not v. So it works out to 4977 Joules. More than twice the energy of an AK-47 round.
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Re:First purchase
"And if you're worried about shooting through the walls with an AR-15 you can always use hollow point bullets."
Bullshit. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4499511&postcount=7
"Using a shotgun is a double edge sword. The good part is that is doesn't shoot through walls so you're not going to hit anyone in other rooms."
Again, bullshit of the worst kind. The kind that will lead you to kill a family member in a home defense scenerio. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm
You need to spend less time watching TV and more time on the range. Read this, test some of your theories on the range, and stop spouting armchair soldier bullshit: http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm -
Re:Almost no one is killed by "assault weapons"
Best statistics I've been able to find: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328876
There was a recent self-defense case in which a woman put 5 of her 6 rounds into a single burglar, who was still mobile for a period of time. Had there been a second attacker, she would have had no ammunition left in her firearm.
If you want an extreme example, see http://www.afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html . He's been the target of 35 robberies, and in one case ended up firing 105 shots in a few minutes. There were 7 armed robbers.
That's ultimately what makes the difference. A single attacker isn't likely to require 10 handgun rounds. Facing 3 or 4 quickly changes things.
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Re:100-degree hot aisles?
It reduces recoil, it also sure as hell sounds louder. Do you own such a device? I do.
Here is the first google link to actual shooters discussing this issue.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93453Muzzle breaks do in fact make a gun louder,
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Looks like an anti-tank rifle
It's bigger than a Barrett sniper rifle. What it actually looks like is an "anti-tank rifle", a bad idea from WWI which hung around until anti-tank rockets were invented. The classic was the Boys rifle out of the UK. Note the similarity. Further development in that direction led to a real BFG. It's even bigger than Halo's weapon. There were about a dozen variants on that theme, none successful.
Anti-tank rifles were a desperation measure to give infantry something to use against tanks. Tanks quickly acquired more armor than anything like that could penetrate, so they were ineffective. They were too big to lug around for any other target, so they fell out of use.
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Re:We are a bunch
No, it doesn't prevent you from getting hurt. I'd be leery of saying that being hit while wearing body armor is going to slow you down though. Some people have been hit by handgun rounds without body armor and failed to notice until after the shooting incident had concluded. Other people get hit by a
.22 in the foot and collapse to the ground screaming in pain. You just can't predict how someone is going to react to being shot when the adrenaline is pumping.Ever read about the FBI shootout in Miami? The suspects in that case kept fighting for almost four minutes despite multiple gunshot wounds. There's also a case of a officer shooting in South Carolina. Traffic stop gone bad. The officer hit the suspect five times center of mass with a
.357 magnum. The suspect shot him with a .22 handgun, caught the officer in the armpit under his vest and ultimately killed him. The suspect survived, in spite of being hit five times CoM with the most effective man-stopper (for handguns anyway) out there.None of that is to say that the police wouldn't have prevailed if the suspect in the Binghamton shooting was still going when they arrived. I suspect that even patrolman (never mind the SWAT team) would have taken him out. But I don't think it would have been as cut and dry as the armchair generals think.
He certainly would have been knocked off his feet if a couple shots were fired in quick succession.
I think that's a dangerous assumption to make. If the energy in a bullet was enough to knock you off your feet then it would also be enough to knock the shooter off his feet. Humans go down after being shot because the central nervous system was destroyed (headshot), because they've lost too much blood to remain standing (damage to the cardiovascular system) or because of shock. Shock can't really be predicted as evidenced by the examples above.
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paranoid delusions of Democratic culpability
Why no citations with your charge of Democratic complicity? There were 8 indicted, and I am aware of the party affiliation for four of those, and their party affiliation count runs an even 2-2 split between Republican/Democrat.
Charles Wayne Jones was the Democratic Election Commissioner, and William E. Stivers was the democrat judge for Manchester Precinct, and is current Clay County Democratic Chairman.
Freddy W. Thompson is a Republican and Clay County Court Clerk; Paul E. Bishop was the Manchester precinct Republican Judge.
Now let's discuss two other indicted individuals, and why their party affiliation is irrelevant to this analysis.
William and Debra Morris are owners of a Clay County sanitation company that has contracts with local governments. They are not politicians, and were motivated to commit election fraud as a means to extort business contracts from officials they helped elect through their criminal activities.
I score the partisan affiliation of the indicted as 2 Dem - 2 Rep - 2 irrelevant - 2 unknown. Where's the evidence of a predominant Democratic participation in this?
Additionally, something your attempt at deciphering party affiliation through simple internet searches did not expose is that there was a prior 2007 indictment handed down in Clay county, KY., for election fraud, and several of those indicted were Republicans: former county Clerk Jennings White; former Clay County judge-executive James Garrison; former sheriff Edd Jordan; and former state representative Barbara White Colter. The 2007 indictment also involved these four officials making a deal with an arrested drug dealer to assist them with their vote buying scheme.
This racketeering had nothing to do with party politics, your paranoid fantasy notwithstanding. This was a criminal conspiracy, that involved more than just conning the local rubes into believing they had finalized their votes, then changing the votes to a preset slate of approved candidates. It also involved shaking down certain candidates for money, used for purchasing some votes in the county, as well as fattening the wallets of co-conspirators.
The party affiliation of Clay County voters is predominately Republican. Maybe you should be asking yourself, why these upright Republicans were willing to have their votes so cheaply purchased by scummy Boss Hogg Politicians.
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Re:Land Grab
oh yeh...
In the words of the Spartan General-King Leonidas to Xerxes "Molon Labe"(Come and get them).
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Re:There's a worse downside than that
Depends. There are webforums that keep the information, although sometimes like the monument The Firing Line has become.
It's just much more difficult to search web forums than Usenet, but they tend to have a better signal/noise ratio.