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Making Data Centers More People-Friendly

1sockchuck writes "Data centers are designed to house servers, not people. This has often meant trade-offs for data center staffers, who brave 100-degree hot aisles and perform their work at laptop carts. But some data center developers are rethinking this approach and designing people-friendly data centers with Class-A offices and amenities for staff and visitors. Is this the future of data center design?"

137 comments

  1. First troll! by sltd · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's just me, but doesn't it seem like 100 degree aisles wouldn't be particularly server-friendly either? Just my $.02

    1. Re:First troll! by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      It's where the cooling exhaust goes, that's why it's hot.

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    2. Re:First troll! by SuperQ · · Score: 3, Informative

      100 degree hot isles are too cold. Hot isles should be the temperature near the maximum component tolerance of the parts in the server. If a part has a maximum temperature of 150 degrees, and runs happily at 120 degrees, the hot isle should be 120 degrees. This way the cooling efficiency is the highest.

      See Google and SGI (Rackable) container designs.

      http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/04/the-beast-unveiled-inside-a-google-server.ars

      As you can see from the photo there, all the cables in the front. No need to get behind it where the hot isle is.

    3. Re:First troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In the Data Centers I work in, the exhaust is sucked out the top of the racks, and every few tiles in the aisles, is a tile with a bunch of holes in it acting as a air-conditioning vent.

      If anything, I freeze at times, if I'm in shorts and flip flops.

    4. Re:First troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seriously. I've been in and out of datacenters, rack farms, etc over the past decade and every time I've seen the racks vented through the ceiling. Hot air rises, more efficient to just suck it up through there. Never been in a warm data center, only freezing ass cold.

    5. Re:First troll! by ko7 · · Score: 0

      1... If a part has a maximum temperature of 150 degrees, and runs happily at 120 degrees, the hot isle should be 120 degrees. This way the cooling efficiency is the highest.

      If the component is at the same temperature as the cooling air, then NO energy (heat) is being transferred from the component to the air. There must be a temperature difference (gradient) for heat to flow. Additionally, just because a part may operate at 150 F, does not mean it will live long at that temperature. The life span of must things electronic gets exponentially shorter with increase in temperature. This is why most data centers are kept so cool.

    6. Re:First troll! by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that people do not operate too well at 120 degrees.

    7. Re:First troll! by EdIII · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The data center I visit most right now has hot/cold aisles. It looks more like a meat processing center with all the heavy plastic drapes. They go from floor to ceiling every other aisle. On the front of the racks they even put in plastic placeholders for gaps where we don't have equipment installed yet to maximize air flow through the equipment. They did it too, we never even had to ask.

      Most of the time we work from the cold aisle with our laptop carts and it is *cold*. The article is confusing because I can't possibly understand why you need to sit with a cart in the hot aisle to work. You can install your equipment and cabling in such a way that you don't need access to the hot aisle for anything other than full server swap outs, cabling swap outs, and that's pretty much it. You can replace the hard drives from the front of the units, and maintenance the server just by pulling it out in front after disconnecting the cables if you need to do so. Most big 4U servers come with cable management arms that allow you to keep "service loops" so that you don't need to disconnect anything to pull the server out on the rails.

      Heck, if you need to just get a 15ft networking cable and thread it through into the cold aisle. You don't have to sit in the heat if you don't want to. Although, I'm a big guy and I like the cold it but its funny as hell to see the skinny bastards walking over to the hot aisle to warm up.

    8. Re:First troll! by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Data centres need to pay more attention to warehousing for objects of the size they handling. All the racks should be open and they should be accessed using automatic picking and packing systems.

      Once the system is built automated picking system only should access the racks to pick defective units and return them to an air locked workstation and to insert the new data unit. This allows much higher racks and you can treat the whole data processing and storage area as an industrial process. Bringing in condition air at the required volume and temperature and then immediately exhausting it unless the high temperature air can be used (heating offices or a fitness centre the only realistic user of that volume and temperature of exhaust air).

      This would be dependent upon the life cycle of units, the size of the data centre and, improved air handling efficiencies reducing running costs.

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    9. Re:First troll! by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Air intake is from the cool aisle, not hot aisle. Essentially, GP is saying that if the hot aisle is anything lower than 120F, there is extra air-conditioning getting into the cool aisle that shouldn't (waste of cool air). It's more of a health gauge at that end of the computer, kinda like digestion: you make sure you eat well (habitually check the air temperature of the cool side to make sure it's cool enough), and you occasionally look at your stool for corn/blood (see if hot aisle is warm enough) to make sure everything's working as it should.

    10. Re:First troll! by Redlazer · · Score: 1

      Peer1, in downtown Vancouver, uses hot/cold aisles.

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    11. Re:First troll! by SuperQ · · Score: 1

      Hell yes. Robot machine replacement would rock. Just like tape swapping. Just bring the busted machines to techs for repair. Or if it's just drive swaps the robot could do that too.

      In theory you could use waste heat as a warming plant for other housing/office use. Since most hardware is happy with 80 degree input air you would have near 80 degree output water. That's more than sufficient to pipe to warm up homes in cold areas of the world.

    12. Re:First troll! by burne · · Score: 1

      This is why most data centers are kept so cool.

      Keeping your servers hot (but not too hot) will enable you to reuse the heat from the datacenter for other purposes. Keeping your servers cool will waste energy cooling them, and waste energy when re-using the energy you extracted from the datacenter.

      The sticky stuff is in the temperature-differential between 'inlet' and 'outlet'. If you pump a square yard of air through your server every second the differential will be low, and you have generated low-quality heat. Slow down the flow and the differential will rise to ten (or 31) degrees, which in terms of 'recycling heat' is much more valueable. You can't do shit with a single degree differential, but a ten-degree differential can be put to other uses.

      Today (a cold day) the inlet-temperature was 4 degrees (celsius). Outlet-temperature was, on average, 35 degrees (again celcius). That is an amount of energy you could monetize. Currently we use the energy thus generated to heat the offices and those of the neighbours. Our DC is small, 10.000 square feet, but produces enough heat to sell.

      Selling your waste. Think about it. It's in the order of 5 percent of our operating-costs. The way to go? (Open your garbage-bin. Look. Add up the value of everthing in there. Imagine getting one-twentieth from what you've spend at the mall. Would you go for it? We do.)

    13. Re:First troll! by zero0ne · · Score: 1

      To add:

      With all the advanced redundant power, networking, etc, you could even have the servers made or adapted to allow for seamless picking...

      So you go to your data center, ask for Server X1B7, picker grabs it and brings it to the room / office you are in... all seamless and without losing network or power. The room could even be designed to look and feel like a old-school datacenter.

    14. Re:First troll! by afidel · · Score: 1

      Cable management arms are the work of the devil. They do nothing but stress cables beyond the minimum bend radius and block airflow out of the back of the server. If you are messing with a server enough for the time spent installing the cable management arm is less than the time you spend disconnecting and reattaching cables you are doing something wrong. The only time I thought they were warranted was back when some higher end x86 servers came with hot replace PCI slots so a dead addon card didn't mean a system reboot but I haven't seen that feature in any PCIe system and besides it's easier to just build redundancy in and replace the failed hardware during a maintenance window (or even better do everything in VM's and just evacuate the host, fix the problem and migrate them back =)

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    15. Re:First troll! by EdIII · · Score: 2

      But Momma said Cable management arms are the work of the devil

      There fixed that for you :)

      *could not help myself*

    16. Re:First troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Server jukebox!

      Happy days heeeeeeeey

    17. Re:First troll! by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      Cable management arms are a God Send.

      Each of my 2U servers has two power, four ethernet, one serial, and three pairs of fiber coming out the back. Without CMAs working on these things would be a freakin' PITA - never mind increasing the risk that somebody plugs something back in wrong.

      If your CMAs are stressing your cables, they are either really crappy or not installed properly.

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    18. Re:First troll! by jbengt · · Score: 1

      ko7 has a point though. In order to have a discharge temperature out of the rack exactly the same as the temperature your rack is you need an infinitely efficient heat exchanger. The air coming out of the rack needs to be at least 10F cooler than the rack to have any sort of efficient heat exchange. (This is all complicated by the internal fans, heat sinks, etc. of the equipment, so YMMV)
      He's also right that the cooler you keep electrical equipment running, the longer it will last, generally, though fluctuations in temperatures may be as deterimental than the actual temperature in some cases.

    19. Re:First troll! by afidel · · Score: 1

      IBM, Dell, and HP's arms ALL fold at an angle that is less than the minimum bend radius for fiber and CAT6a cables.

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    20. Re:First troll! by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      We do that, when it is warm here, we box the heat and ship it north. It's a little less efficient, but we still come out ahead.

    21. Re:First troll! by PCPackrat · · Score: 2

      The spec is 4 times the cable radius. So about 1" Sorry but all those manufactures have more than 1" bend area in their cable management arms.

    22. Re:First troll! by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Ever lived in Phoenix? :-)

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    23. Re:First troll! by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't work [much] with IBM, Dell or HP -- but I thought these things were all pretty much the same.

      When a load a Sun CMA, I make sure the power cables go in closest to the arm; these are the least important cables in terms of bend radius. Then I install serial, ethernet, and fiber.

      Here's what a loaded CMA on a Sunfire v240 (2U) server looks like: http://www.page.ca/~wes/v240-cma.png

      Sorry for the crappy picture, it's all I had. Sun CMAs are made by King Slide.

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  2. Sure... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those who want to pay for those amenities.

  3. Who's going to pay for this? by SimonTS · · Score: 2

    Seriously! What company is going to pay an extra 10% (guessed figure) on top of the cost so they can have a nice comfy room for their data-rats?

    1. Re:Who's going to pay for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      <smug>
      Any company that cares about the comfort and morale of their employees!
      </smug>

    2. Re:Who's going to pay for this? by DogDude · · Score: 0

      A company that is interested in keeping good employees will.

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    3. Re:Who's going to pay for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And which company is that?

    4. Re:Who's going to pay for this? by DogDude · · Score: 1

      I don't know. I'm not in the business. But I do know that *any* business that wants to retain the best employees will do their best to treat them well. That's Business 101.

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    5. Re:Who's going to pay for this? by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 1

      Rackforce, for one. Their newest data centre in Kelowna BC has some of the nicest offices, conference rooms, and bathrooms I've seen anywhere. The centre of the building is the "data centre", with the offices around the periphery. Works nicely, looks amazing, and keeps the geeks *and* the suits happy.

  4. 100-degree hot aisles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've never had a temp problem in a data center. Noise? yes, hot? no.

    1. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by billcopc · · Score: 2

      Agreed. I'll take sound deadening over temperature adjustement. I'm admittedly very sensitive, but for each hour I spend at the DC, my ears ring for three.

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    2. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 2

      Go to home depot and buy a pair of ear plugs. Not the foam disposable ones, but the rubber in ear type. Just like some earbuds and they're connected by a rubber cord.

      Just one thing: don't chew gum or clear your throat. It sounds just awful...

    3. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      Go to home depot and buy a pair of ear plugs.

      Nah, get a proper set of ear protectors; mine are probably the best $25 I ever spent.

    4. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by SuperQ · · Score: 2

      Better than home depot, Etymotic full frequency plugs are great:

      http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.html

      I've also had some friends use things like these in datacenters:

      http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00009363P

      They let you hear people talk (bandpass filter) without letting the low/high noise in.

    5. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      I've got a pair of Peltor Tactical Sports. I use them while at the shooting range, but they're a godsend in the DC as well!

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    6. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Are they worth it?
      I have 300 win mag with a gun loudener (muzzle break) and it seems no muffs I own are up to that challenge. I end up wearing plugs and muffs at the same time.

    7. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I got a pair of electronic headphones at harbor freight tools for like 15 bucks, they are meant for a shooting range. Basically they block out loud noises and through a microphone and speaker re-create low decibel noises such as talking. So basically you can be firing your loud ass gun and hear people talking at a normal voice without having to remove the headphones . This works wonders in any environment with loud noises.

    8. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Are they worth it?
      I have 300 win mag with a gun loudener (muzzle break) and it seems no muffs I own are up to that challenge. I end up wearing plugs and muffs at the same time.

      "Holster. Bandoleer. Silencer. Loudener. Speed-cocker. And this thing's for shooting down police helicopters."

    9. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by fritzenheimer · · Score: 1

      Everything's remotely managed these days anyway, so who cares how hot / cold / loud the cabinets are? Scurry in to hot-replace whatever and scurry back out to the cubi.

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    10. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by energizer-bunny2 · · Score: 1

      Better than home depot, Etymotic full frequency plugs are great:

      http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er20.html

      I agree with the Etymotic earplug recommendation. I have had a pair since the late 90's and they are great.

      Granted, I haven't used them in years and they are probably a bit gross now. meh....

    11. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You'd still want those. The plus side, you can turn them on and crank the low level sounds up, so you'll be able to hear more than your breathing when you're not firing.

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    12. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by VolciMaster · · Score: 1

      Are they worth it? I have 300 win mag with a gun loudener (muzzle break) and it seems no muffs I own are up to that challenge. I end up wearing plugs and muffs at the same time.

      A "loudener"? Seriously? Muzzle breaks do not make the gun "louder" - they redirect exhaust gases in multiple directions for felt-recoil reduction, and to quieten the firearm somewhat.

    13. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      It reduces recoil, it also sure as hell sounds louder. Do you own such a device? I do.

      Here is the first google link to actual shooters discussing this issue.
      http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93453

      Muzzle breaks do in fact make a gun louder,

    14. Re:100-degree hot aisles? by billcopc · · Score: 1

      That's great, except when I'm spending most of those hours on the phone with a vendor, trying to fix the overpriced hunk of junk they sold us.

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  5. Is this the future of data center design? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No.

  6. Not becoming the standard by confused+one · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a marketing ploy to attract customers to a new data center. Ultimately cost will determine the layout. If a cube is cheaper then cubes it will be. If 100 degree hot aisles saves money vs an 85 degree hot aisle, then they'll run them hotter.

    1. Re:Not becoming the standard by Damek · · Score: 2

      Human costs are important. We're forgetting that, hence idiocy like Wisconsin. If you want to be "old-school economics" about it, all costs should be accounted for, including those stakeholder humans bring up that you may not have realized (employees are stakeholders, even if not stockholders). If you want to be currently capitalist about it, don't bother accounting for any costs that aren't affecting today's golf game. Have fun watching the planet burn then.

      The true "tragedy of the commons" is epitomized in contemporary capitalism.

    2. Re:Not becoming the standard by confused+one · · Score: 1

      Nice sentiments and all. I'm living the "old school economics" tragedy where my I'm stuck in a 8' x 5.5' cubical reporting to a PHB who thinks the software I create doesn't add any value to the company. My only stake is the one that keeps getting driven into my back.

    3. Re:Not becoming the standard by VolciMaster · · Score: 1

      This is a marketing ploy to attract customers to a new data center. Ultimately cost will determine the layout. If a cube is cheaper then cubes it will be. If 100 degree hot aisles saves money vs an 85 degree hot aisle, then they'll run them hotter.

      And who wants to invite visitors into a data center? What're they gonna see? Hundreds/thousands of das blinken lights?

    4. Re:Not becoming the standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice sentiments and all. I'm living the "old school economics" tragedy where my I'm stuck in a 8' x 5.5' cubical reporting to a PHB who thinks the software I create doesn't add any value to the company. My only stake is the one that keeps getting driven into my back.

      Get a new job then. I was in a similar situation and changed jobs. Now I have a great boss, valuable work, intelligent and reasonable coworkers ... plus more money.

    5. Re:Not becoming the standard by Damek · · Score: 1

      Yeah, cuz we're just in a glut of jobs at the moment. Screw this "everything's a market" crap. People should f'in organize already.

  7. Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The future of data center design is determined by the lowest denominator common between hardware, humans and cost. Anyone think "people friendly" has a snowball's chance in a 100-degree hot aisle?

  8. Wimps by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Funny

    In my day Data Centers were at the top of snow mountains which you had to climb barefooted or be turned away. We built them to keep the machinery happy, not the people, whom we preferred behaved like machinery.

    We liked our Data Centers the way we liked our women: Bright, White, Antiseptic, and Bitterly Cold.

    1. Re:Wimps by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

      We liked our Data Centers the way we liked our women:

      Hot. And always going down.

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    2. Re:Wimps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tis in the nature of a robot to like Susan Calvin

    3. Re:Wimps by syousef · · Score: 2

      We liked our Data Centers the way we liked our women:

      Hot. And always going down.

      Charlie Sheen, is that you?

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    4. Re:Wimps by lewko · · Score: 1

      With a big rack.

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    5. Re:Wimps by PPH · · Score: 1

      Charlie Sheen, is that you?

      I'm in better shape then Sheen. No booze or drugs. And I stay in good enough physical condition that I can handle three porn stars without getting a hernia.

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  9. Hand Scanners... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 0

    How getting rid of hand scanners?

    I used to work in colo facilities for years and the one thing that always concerned me was some person that had gone through the man trap before me had some awful bacteria/virus on their hands.

    If the handle on the toilet in the airport can claim that it has an anti-bacterial coating, do you think the hand scanner manufacturers could do the same?

    1. Re:Hand Scanners... by X0563511 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unless you've lived in a bubble your whole life, you're probably going to be OK...

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    2. Re:Hand Scanners... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

      I hope you don't assume that everyone washes their hands after coming out of the bathroom.

      While I don't know about you, I personally would not want to shake the hands of some guy that just dropped a bomb and didn't wash his hands.

    3. Re:Hand Scanners... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you routinely crap on your hands? If not, then why assume everyone else does? If so, perhaps you need re-training in the restroom.

    4. Re:Hand Scanners... by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 2

      You would be OK, none of my coworkers have died of dyssenthery yet...

      Now more seriously, relax. Look at how people has historically lived. How long have we had drinkable and controlled water in our home? Or have been almost be assured a john (it is how it is called?) nearby when we need it? And you are probably better feed, have had more vaccines and have acces to more and better physicians than 99,9% of the rest of mankind that has ever been. And even with those disavantages, most of these people did not die from illness (and many of the worst epidemics have been linked with periods of crisis, war, and the like that caused famine that weakened the population). And you are mostly surrounded by healthy people, the sicker staying at home or going to an hospital.

      The fact that there are spots in TV telling you to buy something every time you sneeze does not mean you are in any way weaker than those people(This is no medical advice. If you tomorrow sneeze and die, I deny all responsability ;-p).

      Of course, some safety measures may be sensible, but: isn't it true that you touch door handlers, phones, papers that other people have touched too? Have you heard of someone getting sick that way? Why is a hand scanner different?. Also I don't understand why "a bomb" is so dangerous... I'd always assume an sneeze would be way, way worse.

      OTOH, if you want to be worried about those things, you can remember that a single bout of influenza can kill you (remember which was the most lethal pandemy in the XXth?)

      *1: This is no medical advice. If you sneeze today and die of that, I

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    5. Re:Hand Scanners... by Peeteriz · · Score: 1

      Is there any reasonable difference there between hand scanners and doorknobs that would warrant different treatment ?
      You get the same risks just by using the same door as others w/o wearing surgical gloves and discarding them afterwards.

    6. Re:Hand Scanners... by ocdscouter · · Score: 1

      Do you routinely crap on your hands? If not, then why assume everyone else does? If so, perhaps you need re-training in the restroom.

      Unfortunately, the budget for re-training is usually used for more important things.

  10. Confused here by generikz · · Score: 1

    All the Data Centers I have been working at (USA and Singapore) had some kind of lounge/relaxing room with games, food vending machines, coffees, meeting rooms you can rent, showers, etc. Maybe they just forgot to mention it to their existing customers? Or maybe Equinix (not my company) is doing a better job at taking care of their customers? And they're still aiming at 30% yearly ROE, I can't see where a few dedicated rooms would hurt the bottom line so much.

  11. BTDT by thesameguy · · Score: 1

    Haha! We tried this back in 2000 and it didn't work out. Company tanked, got sold for pennies on the dollar. Herakles (new name) is, however, still a really nice facility.

  12. Remote Management by eln · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you've got remote management set up properly, the only reason you ever even need to go to the data center is due to some kind of hardware failure. There's no sense paying the extra money a place like this will have to charge (to recoup the cost of all those extra amenities) for colo space if you only need to physically visit your servers maybe once or twice a year.

    1. Re:Remote Management by starfishsystems · · Score: 2

      Not just hardware failures but any sort of scheduled physical change as well. Among other things: device upgrades; server, switch and router installation and removal; cabling changes; backup media changes; UPS maintenance; rack moves.

      The last data center maintenance I did, we had to move "only" seven rack's worth of gear from one floor to another. It took place in four carefully-planned phases spanning two months of time. We had eight people working at it for the first week, then the two senior guys pretty much every other day for the remaining time. This, I must emphasize, was to accomplish no functional change whatever. It was just the groundwork.

      Once that was done, then we could finally start in on the long backlog of upgrade and redesign tasks that had previously been impractical due to lack of space. During the course of that redesign, lots of things broke, VLANs for example. Every device of significance was on a remote power switch, but they kind of don't work too well if you can't find a switch to talk to them through.

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    2. Re:Remote Management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To Eln's point, you need proper remote (OOB) management for your "remote power switches" APC has good stuff, though pricey.

      The type of work you describe seldom happens. This should not be routine.

      S

    3. Re:Remote Management by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1

      TFA discussed a colo with 2X 3MW suites. If 6MW of space has only 1 or 2 hardware failures per year, they're overpaying for hardware reliability. I guarantee it would be cheaper to have on site staff than pay enough in hardware reliability to not require on site staff, even if they have well-appointed offices.

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    4. Re:Remote Management by eln · · Score: 1

      The amenities, as I read it, seem to be geared toward the customers of a colo facility. While the actual data center company needs some on-site staff, the individual colo clients will each only be taking up a small fraction of the space, and will rarely need to visit the facility. Given that the data center company will need to charge more to pay for these amenities, their customers are paying for amenities that they (the customer) should only get any use out of once or twice a year. From the customer's perspective, the cost isn't worth the value added.

  13. Re:Just about time by cinderellamanson · · Score: 0

    Parent is Goatse!

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  14. data center comfort by NikeHerc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The folks in India won't care how hot or cold it is in the data centers over here.

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  15. R&D labs: yes. Classic DC? no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I manage an R&D lab with a few hundred racks. We constantly swap out hardware for testing. This makes sitting in the lab the most efficient way of getting things done. Unfortunately my work space where I'm currently sitting reads 90F and I'm wearing noise canceling headphones, which squeeze my head into oblivion after an hour or two. We're working on redesigning a storage room into office space to improve our quality of life. Our goal is to work within a few yards of the gear. As long as an office space is nearby we'll be happier, be able to hear each-other talk, and not feel like we're driving down an Arizona highway in a convertible at 60mph.

      Designing the entire lab around a few working spaces? That seems far fetched. Most data centers choose location: cheap land, power, and cooling before the words "workspace" is even thought of. If an efficient hot/cold aisle scenario works out and a room is nearby, then great convert a closet.

  16. Where I worked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've worked in several data centers. An IBM one had air cooled servers (push cold air into the floor, and every rack has a massive fan pulling cold air up from the floor. It was about 20C day and night. The floor tiles would occasionally break which caused problems when pulling skids of bills over them (it was a phone bill processing and print facility). We would also go through 30 tons of paper per month (2x 1000lb skids of paper per day). There was a lot of paper dust in the place, and the paper was perforated, but on the long side (not on the short side like pc printer paper) because it would tear apart if it was ran through on the short side. There were tractor holes too, but they weren't perforated. Rotary cutters would cut off the tractor holes. The paper went through some of the equipment at about 60 miles per hour. The printers were in general, slower (IBM 3900 laser printers), as they could only print 229 pages per minute. A 2200 sheet 35 pound box of paper would go from full to empty in about 9 1/2 minutes. Fire prevention was Halon. We were told that if the Halon goes off, you probably won't die from the Halon snuffing you out, but rather the floor tiles flying up and severing body parts (they were about 2 1/2 feet square, made of aluminum about 1 inch thick, but only about 10 pounds each). I worked in another data center that had no windows. If the power went off (and it did once, but not when I was on shift), everything went black. No emergency backup lights. The room was about 80 feet wide, and at least 150 feet long, with rack and servers galore (2 operators, more than 300 machines), including DEC Alpha boxen, HP HPUX boxen, PC's, network archive servers, etc. Good luck feeling your way out of that one. While the company was very picky about losing data and running jobs at night, their main interest was making money, and if that involved cutting a power line (tech cable) to put in a road to move product temporarily, . In general, data centers are built to house computers. Operators are a second thought. If there is a problem, bosses yell at operators. Is it up yet? How about now? When? ... and if bosses come in with guests for a dog and pony, operators are chattle (it would be good if you went away somewhere). If there is a problem.... whats the problem, what did you do?

    1. Re:Where I worked by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "No emergency backup lights."
      You're aware this is illegal, yes? "My boss is cheap and doesn't care" isn't an excuse. Call the fire marshal and tell them about it. They'll come down and write the owner up a ticket and force him to install the safety equipment.

      Always surprises me the number of idiots that have the motivation and intelligence to bitch about the unsafe working conditions on the internet, but not to the fire marshal or OSHA.

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    2. Re:Where I worked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      True, however, most people don't want to get fired and blacklisted, perhaps arrested when some "evidence" is found in a mailbox.

      It is the same reason why even though forklift operators have the authority to decommission a forklift because it has no brakes, why they never do so -- because they know they will be tossed out and someone who doesn't complain put in.

      Oh, try to sue for retaliation? Good luck. Not in this economy, nor this political climate that is extremely worker hostile.

    3. Re:Where I worked by T-Bone-T · · Score: 1

      Every OSHA poster where I work makes it perfectly clear that retaliation of any kind is illegal. I doubt anyone would have trouble suing.

    4. Re:Where I worked by garwain · · Score: 1

      The datacenter I have my servers in doesn't have any emergency lights either, but then, if the main lights go out, the room is still well lit from the glow of thousands of led indicator lamps on the servers. Sure knock off a few hundred, since not all machines are on redundant UPSs, but the chance of the room going black is slim to none. 3 seperate UPS systems, with most cages having 2 seperate feeds, and any important cage having it's own UPS setup as well.

  17. Yeah, we also did that 10 years ago by billstewart · · Score: 1

    Our data centers also had customer-friendly space. I think it was mostly inside the "show ID to a guard" area, but it was as important a part of the design as the racks and cages.

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  18. Nope by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    Not the future. Didn't you get the memo? Capitalism says the cheapest is best, and amenities cost money. You might see some for the visitors (gotta keep the client happy), but you think they'll pay to keep the place cool for the admins? Not a chance.

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    1. Re:Nope by Damek · · Score: 1

      Not until admins unionize, anyway. Which, luckily, they won't, because they're all libertarians and don't value more than money.

    2. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not until admins unionize, anyway. Which, luckily, they won't, because they're all libertarians and don't value more than money.

      Indeed. Computer people are the most spineless little fucks. I work in this industry, and the problem is that I'm fucking expected to work outside of business hours and generally get treated like shit. I have to throw these fits to get my way, and the rest of you spineless fuck coworkers think I'm some kind of nutter for having a problem with rebooting a server at 9:30 on a Friday night.

      Really, I'm being serious. I deal with this daily -- people are utterly shocked when I refuse to do things on their time table. Other professions don't have this fucking problem. Plumbers come in and shutoff the water all day or power companies kill the power for 20 minutes to fix a line. It gets scheduled and everyone just has to make do. It would be considered by everyone to be preposterous to expect the plumbers or the linemen to work on the lines or pipes outside of business hours.

      The reason why businesses demand that you don't subject them to 15 minutes of email down time at lunch is because you're spineless. All of my coworkers are sheepish to the point that they allow their bosses, etc. to psychologically bully them into doing anything they want.

      And what the fuck is the expectation that I study for certifications on my own time? The only reason I even get them is to appease my employer. I'm not going to work in this fuck up of an industry after I move on from this job (mainly for the reasons written above).

      I've even read several posts today on this story where the poster is complaining of shitty working conditions or poor treatment or ridiculous expectations.

      Really, you all need to grow a spine. There's this fucking guy here that has worked the last 3 Saturdays. W T F?! The little fucker really wants to be given a day off during the week to make up for it, but he doesn't have the balls to even ask! Let alone demand it! So this fucking guy is working 60 hour weeks and bitching about it. I'm about ready to go tell his boss to get him the fuck out of here before he shoots the place up. Let his boss know that he doesn't have the spine to ask/demand a day off.

      Skinny little glasses wearing fucker, too.

  19. Wait by stms · · Score: 0

    You forgot to tell them to get off your lawn.

  20. not useing rent a cop security is good! by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    not useing rent a cop security is good!

    1. Re:not useing rent a cop security is good! by PTBarnum · · Score: 1

      What kind of security do you prefer?

  21. These things by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    If you have some things that need certain conditions, and other things that need different conditions, then you have a problem.

    Fortunately, I have a solution. It's called putting a wall between them, you fucktards.

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  22. Of course not by Dagum · · Score: 2

    Only in those situations where it makes for additional income.

  23. I wonder where the author of this post is from... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This concept has been a growing trend over the last 10 years, it's nothing new which is why I question the author's sudden desire to post about this. It costs you in the bottom line, you pay more for your colo because of the wasted "office" space (which never gets used). I'm friends with some sysadmins who work at a large colo in Southern California with these facilities, and they say these premium offices almost never get used, and often end up being where they have their company parties where they play big movies on the projection screen, all at the expense of their customers.

    All I can say is, you idiots are paying for this crap. I personally have my servers in a colo with NO office overhead or anything silly like that, and I have had my servers there over 6 year now happily. If this facility started this trend, I would move my servers immediately.

  24. Way too darn cold by MikeB0Lton · · Score: 1

    In my experience people keep the datacenter way too cold. If the equipment runs fine at 70F, then set the CRAC to that temperature. If the hot aisle is working right, everything will be cooled within specifications.

    1. Re:Way too darn cold by afidel · · Score: 1

      We have our setpoint at 72 and even without hot aisle containment (but proper hot/cold design) everything is fine. We only lose about 1.5% per year on HDD's and basically no other components in a statistically significant number (maybe 3 PSU's in 5 years).

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    2. Re:Way too darn cold by MikeB0Lton · · Score: 1

      I doubt most have hot aisle containment. Typically just spacing it out right, properly sizing the air conditioner, and installing rack blanking panels is sufficient. Hot spots (usually caused by packing in blades) can be cooled with rack level gear.

  25. amenities by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... amenities for staff and visitors ...

    I want a pony.

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    1. Re:amenities by syousef · · Score: 1

      ... amenities for staff and visitors ...

      I want a pony.

      I want amentiies for the staff. I hear machines don't work so well when you urinate on them.

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  26. Centers have had tech-friendly amenities for years by OgGreeb · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've been renting facility space in a number of data centers over the last fifteen years, including Exodus (remember them?), IBM and Equinix. In particular Equinix facilities have always provided meeting rooms, work areas, (seriously locked-down) access terminals, great bathrooms and showers for visiting techs for at least 5-7 years. OK, the actual cage areas are pretty cold, but that's the nature of the beast -- I wouldn't want my equipment to overheat. Equinix also has tools you can checkout if you forgot yours or were missing something critical, and racks of screws, bolts, optical wipes, common cable adapters, blue Cisco terminal cables... just in case. (Other than paying them for service, not affiliated with or owning stock in Equinix. But perhaps I should have.)

    I would always look forward to the free machine hot-chocolate when visiting for work assignments.

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  27. admiring the skillfulness of slashdot articles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This troll was good, though my favorites are more like "My boss asked me to spend $5 million upgrading the machine room but I've never done this before, so do you have any advice? Should I include comfy chairs?" or "I'm considering upgrading my skills, do you think it would be worth it to learn Javascript or should I just go to grad school at MIT?" Or sometimes, "I'm having a big fight with my boss, can you give me some evidence that Erlang is really the programming language of the future?" I love slashdot.

  28. Heat and Noise by sexconker · · Score: 1

    Heat: Data centers should be cool. Everyone wants to do things as cheaply as possible, so they spot cool the racks instead of circulating the air and cooling the entire room. Nothing short of abandoning this practice will remove the "it sucks to be in here" factor. The problem isn't so much that it's 100 degrees, but that it's 100 degrees on one side of the rack and 40 degrees on the other. Spend a bit more on cooling costs and get that to 80/60 or even 90/50 and workers will be much less miserable (and equipment will fail less often!). It doesn't have to be a flat "RUN THE HVAC HARDER" solution either.

    Run shit efficiently (spot cooling) 24/7.
    Something breaks? Whatever alert that triggered the SMS to the on-call employee that tells him to come in and fix it can also trigger the HVAC to do a bit more work to make things more comfortable. Scheduled maintenance is even easier. When work is done, go back to miser mode.

    As for noise, the answer is so fucking easy. Larger fans. It boggles my mind to see servers using 80mm, 60mm, and smaller fans for the various components.
    Cut that shit out. Your 1U and 1/2U and Blade style shit might not have much leeway, but bigger, slower fans are certainly an option on everything 2U and up.

    But as long as cost is king, nothing will change.

  29. Missing the point much? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    If you have a datacenter large and serious enough that you've got a full hot/cold aisle setup, deafening fans, etc. rather than just a rack frame in a closet somewhere, people being in there is supposed to be unusual. Unless a piece of hardware is being swapped out, as fast as your screwdrivers will carry you, or somebody fucked up in a network-unrecoverable way, why are there humans inside at all?

    1. Re:Missing the point much? by PPH · · Score: 0

      why are there humans inside at all?

      Alt-Ctrl-Del?

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    2. Re:Missing the point much? by dzr0001 · · Score: 1

      Again, what the parent said. If you have a datacenter that serious you do not need people to three-finger-salute your boxes. Remote management was invented for a reason. Granted, people still have to go in there to rack, cable, and kick boxes with misconfigured IPMI or the like. That doesn't mean you design the DC to be comfortable enough to office out of.

    3. Re:Missing the point much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why are there humans inside at all?

      Alt-Ctrl-Del?

      Doesn't anyone use ipmitool?

  30. Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work in a data center built in 1999 and it has rooms for visitors and conference rooms, as well as "cube land" for staff.

  31. Hot! by bloobamator · · Score: 1

    The only thing hot in the many data centers I toured were the saleswomen. Every single one of them, young, female and HOT! No exceptions.

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    1. Re:Hot! by Gofyerself · · Score: 1

      Amen

  32. Does cost matter? by sdguero · · Score: 1

    If it does, then the answer is a resounding no. NO. NO!!! NoooOOOOOOooooOOOOOOooooOOOOOOooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  33. You are missing the whole points!!! by oktokie · · Score: 0

    With whole things moving to the universe of virtualization and heavy encryption technology the location and security of the physical machines become non-issues. there is no need for owning the hardware in the future unless you had specific needs and if you are are the type requires special needs then you can not risk not to have in-house data-center where you probably have $$$ and the thing is high profile. Um...google & apple don't they have their own data-center? Enough said...and move along, as there is nothing to be discussed.

  34. I'm moving toward human-free data centers..... by Desmoden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not that I don't like humans, hell I married one. However humans are unpredictable. Applications want and need predictable hardware to live on. Even in a "CLOUD" with floating VMs that fly around like Unicorns you want stable predictable hardware underneath.

    Humans trip on things, excrete fluids and gases, need oxygen, light, are temperature sensitive and depending on who's stats you believe cause up to 70% of outages.

    I see convergence, virtualization etc as a chance to finally get humans OUT of the data center. Build it out, cable everything. Then seal it. Interaction does NOT require physical access. And a team of dedicated obsessive compulsive robots or humans can replace memory, drives etc.

    Data Centers need to be human FREE zones. Not the common room in a dorm.

    1. Re:I'm moving toward human-free data centers..... by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1


      Even in a "CLOUD" with floating VMs that fly around like Unicorns you want stable predictable hardware underneath.

      Simply untrue. When you have a "CLOUD" that's big enough, the failure rate itself is stabilized. But you still need humans to work it. Human techs are way cheaper than machines that are so reliable that they don't need them.

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  35. Peer1 is nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My gear is at Peer1's new Data Center in Toronto. They have nice work areas outside of the POD to work on your gear, where it is quite and you have plenty of space etc. Plus they have a nice couch with a huge TV if you need a break. The staff have nice offices too. Although there are never any paper towels in the washroom.

    http://www.peer1.com/hosting/toronto_data_center.php

  36. No. by lcllam · · Score: 2

    Data centers are utility rooms and serve a utility purpose. Aside from the showoff trips for the clients, they are probably factored as such and will be closer to a boiler room than an office. Ever see a nicely decked out boiler room?

  37. the bandwidth is just not there for that right now by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    the bandwidth is just not there for that right now do you want pay the costs to get a fios like network in the areas that are still just on ADSL?

  38. FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I not only don't wash my hands I wipe my butt with my fingers then wipe my fingers off with TP.

    I like to sneak into the bathrooms early in the morning and rub one out over the sink handles in both bathrooms. Those aren't 'water' spots.

    I'm a hand shaking motherfucker and I work with you.

  39. Container-based data centers - zero amenities by extcontact · · Score: 1

    Gen 4 data centers: ITPACS - no HVAC, no aisles, you never touch a server. Automated provisioning and data transfer means when a server starts experiencing too many the vm gets shut down, moved, and the server shut down; when n servers are shut down the container is shut down and replaced. No one looks at an error log to see what the problem is - no one cares - just send it back to the vendor for refurbishing.

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/msdatacenters/archive/2011/02/01/datacenter-efficiency.aspx

    http://www.microsoft.com/showcase/en/us/details/84f44749-1343-4467-8012-9c70ef77981c

    1. Re:Container-based data centers - zero amenities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A large amount of PCs may be MS's dream, but in reality, not all tasks can be done on scads of crap x86 hardware in a can.

      One can take a zSeries mainframe which takes up 1-2 mainframe racks, put it up against that container, and show that even though the IBM mainframe does take up HVAC energy, it actually uses far less total due to virtualization as opposed to a ton of x86 hardware. Duplication of machine images? A DS8xxx has built in deduplication, so having a stack of VMs is easily doable. To boot, if a VM requires more combined CPU power than one of the x86 racks/blades, it easily can get it. Yes, there are large I/O tasks that will make x86 machines cry for their mommies, because the I/O buses just isn't up to snuff.

      x86 hardware is great, but you can only put so much lipstick on a pig -- it still is not up to snuff if you want to go past 2-3 9s in reliability, even with clusters.

      You can keep the Microsoft clusters... I'll stick with the Sun and IBM solutions, which are designed from the ground up for reliability, not cheapness above all else.

    2. Re:Container-based data centers - zero amenities by extcontact · · Score: 1

      Would love to see a head-to-head, apples-to-apples vm-based set of benchmarks for a z10/DS8800 rig with full HVAC versus a container of HVAC-less x86 boxes on a transactions/$ and transactions/kWh basis. Doubt such a fair comparison exists from either side, however, I'd be taking the bet that the container would win in both dollars and kWhs.

  40. Fecking Fahrenheit by mjwx · · Score: 1
    I was thinking, like most rational people would that 100 Degrees Celsius (boiling point of water) _would_ be way too hot and wondered how the servers could keep operating under such extreme conditions. Now in high temperature environments like mine sites we use self contained racks with their own AC unit. We occasionally use empty ones to chill beer.

    But then I read this and realised they were using the backwards Fahrenheit measurement.

    100 degree hot isles are too cold.

    Now here I agree, 38 Degrees is not too hot so long as you aren't working there 8 hours a day. I'm sure datacentre staff have a nice climate controlled cubical to go back to so that is a non issue.

    BTW, the strangest rack I've ever come across was one we deployed to a mine in Mongolia. Yes, you can get self contained racks with their own heater.

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    1. Re:Fecking Fahrenheit by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      Should've just ordered a Prescott and saved yourself the heater.

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    2. Re:Fecking Fahrenheit by SuperQ · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I was just responding in the parent post's units. :(

    3. Re:Fecking Fahrenheit by mjwx · · Score: 1

      No need to apologise,

      Yours just happened to be the closest post.

      but my rant stands,

      6.2 billion people use Celsius, if not more. Why are we being held hostage to an out of date, arbitrary temperature system.

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  41. Windows Friendly by lexcyber · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't it be windows friendly since they have to be there first Tuesday of the month.

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  42. Exactly. by Travoltus · · Score: 1

    I managed a data center. Temperatures like that radiating from servers is bad, bad news. That is an obvious bad airflow problem.

    Plus, there is emerging technology to use sound waves for refrigeration. I wonder when they'll deploy it for data centers?

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  43. Dust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the dust our homes and offices collect is dead skin (citation needed). So, please, keep the meatbags out of the datacenter so I dont have to come later and replace all the failing fans, which in turn let the hardware overheat, and the server fail, and now you cant access your pretty lolcat pictures. So you get out of the house, bored, and start socializing with people. Next thing you all have weird ideas and want to overthrow the government. The government responds nuking his own people, because governments don't remember why they are there in the first place. THEN the other nations use human rights to fight the government of that country.

    There, you FUCKED UP THE WORLD.

    -Bunn

  44. Better be more reliable than my tape libraries by macwhiz · · Score: 1

    Oh good Lord, no... Given how often my tape robots break. They jam, they get confused... The last thing I need with a downed server is some robot trying to crimp it in two because a roller got worn and lacked grip. Plus, when the robot breaks, how hard will it be for a human to get in and do things manually? Especially when the mechanism is from the low bidder, because the execs will never pay for a good one...

    1. Re:Better be more reliable than my tape libraries by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      It really only works for major data centres. Midi ones should have the servers embedded in external walls behind double glazed doors (internal atrium). Drawing in outside air, conditioning it and exhausting it or making use of the air temperature in a heat exchanger.

      Another big improvement would be to go all DC in the server room, larger external transformers and redundant transformers (externalises a major heat source that can run at very high temperatures), simplifies battery backup and also adding solar panels and vertical wind turbines. Only other minor refinement, no aluminium conductors in the server room, not even in the equipment. Any loss of efficiency in conductors results in higher heat and wasted energy.

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    2. Re:Better be more reliable than my tape libraries by SuperQ · · Score: 1

      The problem with DC in the server room is distribution. You would have to go high voltage DC to be able to distribute it.. and then you would need to step it down a bunch at the rack. If you do 48v rail, you're going to need huge distribution bars. Think of a typical server rack these days. A 500W 1U server x 40U. That's 20kw per rack. At 48v you're talking 416 Amps. A minor install of say 10 racks is going to bring you up to 4160 Amps. Just guessing you'd need a bar of copper 2x2" in size to move that kind of current.

      Considering modern server AC/DC power supplies are 95+% efficient, and common server distribution is done at 208v, there's no need to go DC at the datacenter level.

    3. Re:Better be more reliable than my tape libraries by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Your thinking wrong kind of server. Adjust your thinking for no sound card, no video card, just an energy efficient CPU, hard disk drives and memory. Also no energy losses in a power supply, or its associated fan. In fact the only fan would be on the CPU and even that should be eliminated by with good design and an effective heat sink. Also adjust your DC conductivity for energy losses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Voltage_DC. Apparently there is only about a 30% difference between AC and DC for amperage loading over shorter distances, this versus removal of power supply and fans (transformer) to an external location where it can be run at hundreds of degree and be air-cooled. It all required a custom designed server unit made under contract.

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  45. what is wrong with the "traditional approach"? by VirtualJWN · · Score: 1

    I had access to nearly all of the comm platforms we used, and most required multi level access to get in (outer door, inner door) These rooms were very convenient for "off the record" discussions when it ws concerning info that not everyone should hear, or regarded sensitive information. To sanitize an op center is to remove its effectiveness. We have to stop allowing the MBA types to dictate what a dev or system center is all about.

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  46. 100 degrees? by JBv · · Score: 1

    That's boiling water temperture! I can just imagine the piles of cooked sysadmins there.

  47. Equinix by mu51c10rd · · Score: 1

    I'll second your opinion on Equinix. The data centers I have frequented of theirs even have arcade machines in a breakroom. I rarely see places as well-managed or designed as theirs.

  48. crash carts? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Are people still using crash carts for routine maintenance, in this day of ubiquitous KVM? In our datacenter every other row has a desk with two terminals with access to the KVM for those two rows. Unfortunately it's in the cold aisle, which makes it a little chilly to work there if you didn't bring a coat. I have been known to take breaks in the nearest hot aisle to warm up.

    A crash cart should be used for diagnosis and installs. KVM for everything else.

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  49. That isn't always true.... by Desmoden · · Score: 1

    For some App, Data Center RAID works well. Build 10 low cost data centers, mirror 5->5, run like the wind.

    However, due to the transactional nature of some Applications this is not true.

    For example, Google's model works great for search.

    However it didn't keep those 150,000 users from loosing their data did it?

    Once the transaction is done, you can sync the results, but a failure mid transaction can be VERY bad.