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Pictures
I, for one, wanted to see pictures (why does no one ever think of the pictures??!). There are some here: https://www.thenews.com.pk/lat...
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Re:Nuclear Generating Station Shuts Down Safely
I swear by my life and my love of it ---
that I will never live for the sake of another man,
nor ask another man to live for mine.
~John GaltThis not only applies to freedom from coercion, but also liberation from having to address your tender concern of whether or not my own philosophy is flawed. But it is funny... you sound a lot like Senator McCarthy...
India's Thorium research is promising but a little sad, they have spent so much effort to make it useable as solid fuel, even before discovering that they are sitting on one of the world's largest reserves of uranium. Thorium in liquid fuel would be an efficiency win for every continent with an extremely small mining footprint. Thorium as solid fuel does not offer enough benefit over uranium, until or unless uranium becomes scarce.
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Re:Damn...
Politicians who spoke of changing the blasphemy laws away from the current death sentence, have themselves been killed for it. One by his own bodyguard who proudly announced his reasons, and was hailed widely as an Islamic hero.
Others have asked about Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's former female leader, surely that is a good sign! Of course, she is dead now, having been assassinated by the extremists.
Nice try, trying to combine and confuse two issues.
Regarding the former, those are pretty rare...
What exactly do you count as rare, deaths over the blasphemy law are anything but rare. As recently as last September a police officer shot Asghar Ali in his prison cell, he had been convicted of blasphemy. In 2013, more than a hundred homes and business were burnt to the ground over allegations of blasphemy having been committed. For every case that makes it trial like Asghar Ali, there are dozens of cases like that in Lahore where the mob can't wait for the system and kills the suspects themselves. It's not nearly so rare a case as you suggest.
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Re:Damn...
Politicians who spoke of changing the blasphemy laws away from the current death sentence, have themselves been killed for it. One by his own bodyguard who proudly announced his reasons, and was hailed widely as an Islamic hero.
Others have asked about Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's former female leader, surely that is a good sign! Of course, she is dead now, having been assassinated by the extremists.
Nice try, trying to combine and confuse two issues.
Regarding the former, those are pretty rare...
What exactly do you count as rare, deaths over the blasphemy law are anything but rare. As recently as last September a police officer shot Asghar Ali in his prison cell, he had been convicted of blasphemy. In 2013, more than a hundred homes and business were burnt to the ground over allegations of blasphemy having been committed. For every case that makes it trial like Asghar Ali, there are dozens of cases like that in Lahore where the mob can't wait for the system and kills the suspects themselves. It's not nearly so rare a case as you suggest.
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Re:Damn...
The JUI-F speech can be read here. Fouled up the link somehow in the parent.
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Re:Damn...
the percent sign was stripped off, even trying the html entity & # 37 ; doesn't show in preview
I agree that's big enough to make huge problems, but to call that country a radical muslim one is to not see what's going on there,
The JUI-F party is sitting on 15 seats in Pakistan's elected National Assembly. The JUI-F deputy parliamentary leader, Mufti Kifayatullah, gave a grand speech for his party after Bin Laden's death lamenting the loss of a great Islamic hero. You can read about his speech here. Mufti is still alive and well as a member of the JUI-F. The leader of the ANP party member that spoke against him was assassinated just before Christmas a year later in 2012 though.
You grossly misrepresent the threat facing moderate Pakistani civilians by falsely claiming a mere 15% are radicals.
Did I mention the JUI-F is 1 of three parties that make up the current RULING coalition government in Pakistan? That's correct, nuclear armed Pakistan is currently ruled by a coalition including a party that declared Osama Bin Laden a hero. That party won popular election to 15 of 300 some seats.
Who are you counting in your mere 15% of 'radicals'. The lynch mobs and assassins that have busily killed not only those accused of blasphemy, but even those that proposed changing the laws on it number more than 15%. I very much believe it unjust to count those in favor of the death penalty for blasphemy as anything but radical.
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Re:Damn...
Oh, forgot to add the scariest part. The JUI-F, who shed tears and shook their fists over Bin Laden's tragic loss have something more than just 15 seats at the National Assembly. The current ruling and official government of Pakistan is a coalition government between the following parties: PML-N, PML-F and yes, you guessed it, the JUI-F.
You can read about the JUI-F praise for Bin Laden here and here.
Shiver.
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Re:Damn...
Oh, forgot to add the scariest part. The JUI-F, who shed tears and shook their fists over Bin Laden's tragic loss have something more than just 15 seats at the National Assembly. The current ruling and official government of Pakistan is a coalition government between the following parties: PML-N, PML-F and yes, you guessed it, the JUI-F.
You can read about the JUI-F praise for Bin Laden here and here.
Shiver.
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Re:Damn...
Well, Indira Gandhi, India's woman PM, was also assassinated. Although she apparently was pretty ruthless (and lacking insight) when she supremely pissed off her own bodyguards (who did the assassinating). Apples and oranges, I know, but Pakistan certainly doesn't have a monopoly on killing women in power.
India and Pakistan is an apples to oranges comparison alright, as Bhutto is hardly the lone moderate or liberal minded victim in Pakistan.
Shabaz Bhatti and Salmaan Taseer are two other high ranking Pakistani politicians murdered in 2011 for the reason that they announced a wish to change the penalty for blasphemy to something other than the death penalty.
Or perhaps more telling, is Malala Yousef, a small school girl who's threat to the extremists was voicing the opinion that girls should attend school. So the brave jihadists stopped her school bus and shot her in the head. She survived, but is still living in the UK because the Taliban has not only accepted responsibility for the attack, but has sworn to finish the job if she returns.
These are just a few of the big name assassinations in the last few years. The list of atrocities committed by extremists in Pakistan could go on and on. Just follow Pakistan English language news for a few days and see for yourself. The JUI-F party currently holds 15 seats in Pakistan's National Assembly. The JUI-F leader gave a grand speech after Bin Laden's death condemning the Pakistani government's failure to protect an Islamic Hero, and for their obvious complicity as given Bin Laden's location the government must have known about him long before the American attack.
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Re:Thanks, Jenny McCarthy
Dr Shakil Afridi was completely corrupt long before the CIA found him.
The combination of this dirt bag plus a very ill-advised strategy by the CIA was a match made in hell.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-112572-Twists-in-the-Afridi-case
The entire thing is pit.
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Meanwhile in Pakistan
another Islamist suicide bomber kills 20 at a Peshawar political rally.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-97057-Peshawar:-Blast-near-ANP-rally-kills-17,-injures-60
while Pakistan condemns the latest US drone killings.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/04/16/298603/pakistan-condemns-us-drone-attack/
Unless Wikileaks gets the footage, it will never make the TV news though.
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Re:Job Performance
Conveniently timed just before he was to testify to Congress about the Benghazi attack. Now he doesn't testify. So, within days of Obama being re-elected:
- Petraeus resigns (he should have to answer questions about Benghazi)
- Clinton signals she will resign (she should have to answer questions about Benghazi)
- A drone is shot at by Iran prior to the election
And there is more. If this was Bush's reelection and this happened right after we would be up in arms! -
Re:Seizure without cause
What international treaty gives them jurisdiction of your business if you're on foreign soil?
This! Any more questions?
I can see "small" fault in your logic...
This should give jurisdiction over WTC...and nice 2' long two-by-four should give jurisdiction over your wallet ?
No, thank you Sir, I do not agree
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Re:Seizure without cause
What international treaty gives them jurisdiction of your business if you're on foreign soil?
This! Any more questions?
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Re:And yet...
How about I look for what I actually claimed, which was the people were saying that cyclones were caused by global warming:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=30541&Cat=1
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/97558/super-storms-linked-to-global-warming
http://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/global-weirding-how-global-warming-will-mean-more-cyclones-and-fewer-cyclones/
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/05/14/tropical-cyclones-warming.htmlOh look, about five seconds.
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Re:Will this help?
I find a number of your assumptions questionable.
Game over
Hmm... no pakistani partisans anywhere but the "glowing parking lot that Pakistan becomes"? Perhaps you haven't learned the lessons of "conventional terrorism" that Pakistan, Iraq, the Phillipeans, Ireland, and elsewhere have taught over the years:
Terrorists are not restricted to territory they hold and exclude the accepted government from. Using indiscriminate weapons against them MIGHT (only might) kill those terrorists you know about. They WILL kill innocent civilians, though. Which act has a good chance of recruiting any surviving relatives of those civilians. Heck, we have enough trouble telling whether we killed terrorists when we have people on the ground, directing where conventional bombs are going.
Nuclear weapons are a great way of knocking down trees and killing lots of people in a close area. What they aren't so good at is immediately killing folks in bunkers, caves, or The Next Valley Over. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were cities, recall. The places you'll find terrorists hiding in Pakistan might be the cities, sure. But likely not the majority. And if what leadership there is thinks throwing nukes around is a good idea, do you think they'd remain anywhere they thought would make a good target?
So at what point did you think that a nuclear counterstrike would be an effective idea?
But that segues into the next item:
Millions die, in the USA and PAK. But not in Europe or Japan, or Germany or France or Italy or Finland or Russia.
Assume that Pakistan IS turned into a parking lot. Let's be optimistic and say 60% casualties. All that radioactivity going to stay there? Or will it float around on the prevailing winds? Do you know? What of global weather impact?
I doubt we're talking "end of civilization as we know it", but to blithely imply "no impact" is as irrational as "the end is coming".
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Re:No.
First he should stop funding both sides of war. That should save a hell of lot of money and save our economy.
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Re:Do you know what *your* subs are doing?
Oh, oh...
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=10595
I assume, we sold them old world war stuff from an junkyard as new. I'm ashamed. -
Re:Yes, you're being sillyDo you think the factory workers, or even the management at Lenovo have anything to do with China's military decisions? Yes. China's military goals are dictated by the same thing as those of the US: money. Nearly every geopolitical or military event occurring in the world today can be traced directly back to economic motives. In the case of Myanmar, it's energy. Happy dictators in Burma means more natural gas for China means more electricity for Lenovo. The US has a behavioral problem as well, do you think that world consumers should punish the people of the US economically because of it? Yes. And, before you ask, I am an American born and raised. "China" is not some collection of a billion evil people shooting at monks - it's a country full of good people working to feed themselves and take care of their families. I certainly agree with that. And for the most part, Americans are too. But in both cases their leadership is rife with corruption and greed, and harbors a rather flagrant disregard for human rights and the suffering of others. The reason they are able to get away with this is because a growing number of people in both countries are wealthy and complacent. Certainly the masses you speak of bear no direct responsibility for the actions of their country. But we are all indirectly culpable through our inaction. Hitting the only place people seem to care about--the bank account--seems to be the only way to wake anyone up.