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Oh wow Alex being a FOSSie and throwing insults, surprise surprise. Hey here is a video of RMS you'll find enlightening and as a public service allow me to post some facts (with links, which of course you can NEVER provide) to give those that aren't sucking GNUoolaid some information about the product you keep championing blindly like a Moonie following his master.

How about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks? which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something.

How sad was it that even when a bug was spreading through OSX there were writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Why do you go to a doctor? why don't you go to med school and DIY dumbass? Because THAT is how fricking stupid that argument is, like I should have to go spend 4 years to get a comp-sci degree or pay out the ass, which BTW we are talking millions of dollars, just to get the devs to show even a tiny amount of common sense. BTW that is excuse #7 on the list so if you are gonna trot out the classic please go to TM repo and just use the list, thanks.

Oooor...I can do like the rest of the planet, spend a whole $40 for Windows or buy a new Mac and have a hassle free computer...see the problem friend? if you want your OS to remain at 1.05% which for a product being given away gratis against two products that cost actual money is just pathetic, then please, by all means, be as fiddly and big a PITA as you wanna be. But don't come whining and bitching about how 'Ohhh, they won't give us the code! Waah, they won't support us! Boo, its a conspiracy to keep real software off of Linux!" because the rest of us will just laugh and walk away.

In the end you have a PRODUCT, there is a MARKET and in that market you have COMPETITION, if you want to be a hobbyist OS? Then please STFU and be one already! But quit bitching that nobody will take your fiddly OS if you refuse to give the customer what they want because frankly it makes you and the rest of the community look batshit.

Just to make it perfectly clear i'll bold this so you can't miss it The world won't do things YOUR way, you have to do things THEIR way and its as simple as that. The world doesn't give a rat's ass about how bleeding edge your damned kernel is, nor do they give a wet fart about "the power of CLI" which just FYI a primitive GUI and NOT the force, mmmkay?

BTW what do Best Buy, MSI, Asus, walmart, and me have in common? We are ALL retailers who bought into your bullshit only to find a broken OS and now won't allow it into our stores, so its not like I'm alone, in fact I'm in good company I'd say.

Why do you go to a doctor? why don't you go to med school and DIY dumbass? Because THAT is how fricking stupid that argument is, like I should have to go spend 4 years to get a comp-sci degree or pay out the ass, which BTW we are talking millions of dollars, just to get the devs to show even a tiny amount of common sense. BTW that is excuse #7 on the list so if you are gonna trot out the classic please go to TM repo and just use the list, thanks.

Oooor...I can do like the rest of the planet, spend a whole $40 for Windows or buy a new Mac and have a hassle free computer...see the problem friend? if you want your OS to remain at 1.05% which for a product being given away gratis against two products that cost actual money is just pathetic, then please, by all means, be as fiddly and big a PITA as you wanna be. But don't come whining and bitching about how 'Ohhh, they won't give us the code! Waah, they won't support us! Boo, its a conspiracy to keep real software off of Linux!" because the rest of us will just laugh and walk away.

In the end you have a PRODUCT, there is a MARKET and in that market you have COMPETITION, if you want to be a hobbyist OS? Then please STFU and be one already! But quit bitching that nobody will take your fiddly OS if you refuse to give the customer what they want because frankly it makes you and the rest of the community look batshit.

Just to make it perfectly clear i'll bold this so you can't miss it The world won't do things YOUR way, you have to do things THEIR way and its as simple as that. The world doesn't give a rat's ass about how bleeding edge your damned kernel is, nor do they give a wet fart about "the power of CLI" which just FYI a primitive GUI and NOT the force, mmmkay?

BTW what do Best Buy, MSI, Asus, walmart, and me have in common? We are ALL retailers who bought into your bullshit only to find a broken OS and now won't allow it into our stores, so its not like I'm alone, in fact I'm in good company I'd say.

Linux TM number 17. in the future if you want to spread Linux BS please choose the appropriate TM, the first 30 usually cover every bit of BS ever posted here, thanks. Oh and BTW I have a single DVD that will install pretty much ANY Windows driver for ANY device and do so with a single click,where is yours? Oh right there isn't even a single repo for drivers yet, sorry bout that. And where is the find drivers and rollback drivers buttons? you know, the things Windows has had for over a decade? oh yeah, those don't exist either, bummer.

You can waste mod points but it won't make black into white, or straw into gold. Linux is great for embedded, kicks ass on web servers, but as long as Linus Torvalds has a pulse Linux drivers are gonna be dooky.

I hate to break the news to ya, but lets gets some facts straight, mmmkay? First of all CLI doesn't give you mystical gonad powers, second of all CLI is a GUI not any kind of mystical I/O, its just a very VERY primitive GUI, finally here is a nice article that points out better than I ever could why your CLI is a pile of old cat turds not that you'll read it.

In the end, know what it comes down to REALLY, I mean what is really at the heart of it all? Losers. CLI has become the haven of the maladjusted loser, because it gives them the illusion, and that's all it is, merely an illusion, of being better/smarter/more leet than someone else. And THAT is why you desperately hang onto a GUI everyone else abandoned over 20 years ago, not because it makes ANYTHING better, but precisely because it does not. Linux is the bizzaro-world where the more fiddly and PITA you can possibly make it the better because it "proves" that you MUST be smarter/better/more leet by virtue of making the damnd thing work. Well to stick that final needle in your bubble copypasta into a CLI doesn't make you leet, it makes you a script kiddie.

So enjoy the 1970s Disco Stu, the rest of us will laugh our collective asses off and enjoy our nice GUIs and smirk.

I hate to break the news to ya, but lets gets some facts straight, mmmkay? First of all CLI doesn't give you mystical gonad powers, second of all CLI is a GUI not any kind of mystical I/O, its just a very VERY primitive GUI, finally here is a nice article that points out better than I ever could why your CLI is a pile of old cat turds not that you'll read it.

In the end, know what it comes down to REALLY, I mean what is really at the heart of it all? Losers. CLI has become the haven of the maladjusted loser, because it gives them the illusion, and that's all it is, merely an illusion, of being better/smarter/more leet than someone else. And THAT is why you desperately hang onto a GUI everyone else abandoned over 20 years ago, not because it makes ANYTHING better, but precisely because it does not. Linux is the bizzaro-world where the more fiddly and PITA you can possibly make it the better because it "proves" that you MUST be smarter/better/more leet by virtue of making the damnd thing work. Well to stick that final needle in your bubble copypasta into a CLI doesn't make you leet, it makes you a script kiddie.

So enjoy the 1970s Disco Stu, the rest of us will laugh our collective asses off and enjoy our nice GUIs and smirk.

You are using TM #267, aka move the goal posts. "hey its NOT because we offer nothing to the end users but bullshit and hassles, its NOT that we have serious problems we refuse to address, its that we DON'T WANT TO WIN, yeah that's the ticket! In fact...we already won, just somewhere else! that is it!"...yeah my my dick is named Fred and is 15 feet long and plays jingle bells when you rub it.

See how long anybody gives a shit about your gains in servers when the entire consumer market is cut off to you. how many you think are even gonna LEARN Linux if they have no hardware to learn ON friend? that would be damned few, much fewer than you have now. meanwhile Windows admins are a dime a dozen and plentiful as dirt and if MSFT wants to cut you out of the server market all they have to do is offer the OEMs WinServer at $100 a pop with 100 CALs free and CALs after that at $3 a pop for all those that sign up for "Windows Assurance Secure Server" where its also got a locked bootloader.

The corps will go where they can get the best deals PERIOD, they have no more loyalty to your OS or your beliefs than they do to the guy that sells them staplers. In case you missed the memo the world is quickly becoming CONSUMERS in 500 foot flaming neon and you are gonna get cut out of that market, not because of some great evil conspiracy, but because attitudes such as yours handed the market over on a silver platter. Frankly with such a piss poor attitude towards your customers you deserve to lose.

And here's Alex, resident FOSSie whackjob. First of the month, out of your meds already? Sadly you should take them as then you might be able to actually use logic because all of that is documented in the UEFI spec. It says that if you have physical control, then guess what? YOU are the owner! I know, what a concept, right?

You see this is why I enjoy laughing at FOSSies, just like the religious nutters even the tiniest bit of logic blows away your arguments. Your "talking points" are nothing but the classic circle of loon, in fact every argument you've EVER presented here can be covered in the top 10 TM repos because THAT is how predictable they are.

So go back to your circular logic and your magical mystical all powerful OS oh and DO be sure to ask MSFT for a check, because frankly your kind of batshit does more to sell Windows than a dozen powerpoints or even a lecture from RMS because it is YOU sir that make the entire Linux community look about as sane as the guys talking about the lizard people on Above Top Secret. Way to go there Sparky, way to make FOSS look like a bunch of crackpots and conspiracy theorists.

And here's Alex, resident FOSSie whackjob. First of the month, out of your meds already? Sadly you should take them as then you might be able to actually use logic because all of that is documented in the UEFI spec. It says that if you have physical control, then guess what? YOU are the owner! I know, what a concept, right?

You see this is why I enjoy laughing at FOSSies, just like the religious nutters even the tiniest bit of logic blows away your arguments. Your "talking points" are nothing but the classic circle of loon, in fact every argument you've EVER presented here can be covered in the top 10 TM repos because THAT is how predictable they are.

So go back to your circular logic and your magical mystical all powerful OS oh and DO be sure to ask MSFT for a check, because frankly your kind of batshit does more to sell Windows than a dozen powerpoints or even a lecture from RMS because it is YOU sir that make the entire Linux community look about as sane as the guys talking about the lizard people on Above Top Secret. Way to go there Sparky, way to make FOSS look like a bunch of crackpots and conspiracy theorists.

And here's Alex, resident FOSSie whackjob. First of the month, out of your meds already? Sadly you should take them as then you might be able to actually use logic because all of that is documented in the UEFI spec. It says that if you have physical control, then guess what? YOU are the owner! I know, what a concept, right?

You see this is why I enjoy laughing at FOSSies, just like the religious nutters even the tiniest bit of logic blows away your arguments. Your "talking points" are nothing but the classic circle of loon, in fact every argument you've EVER presented here can be covered in the top 10 TM repos because THAT is how predictable they are.

So go back to your circular logic and your magical mystical all powerful OS oh and DO be sure to ask MSFT for a check, because frankly your kind of batshit does more to sell Windows than a dozen powerpoints or even a lecture from RMS because it is YOU sir that make the entire Linux community look about as sane as the guys talking about the lizard people on Above Top Secret. Way to go there Sparky, way to make FOSS look like a bunch of crackpots and conspiracy theorists.

And here's Alex, resident FOSSie whackjob. First of the month, out of your meds already? Sadly you should take them as then you might be able to actually use logic because all of that is documented in the UEFI spec. It says that if you have physical control, then guess what? YOU are the owner! I know, what a concept, right?

You see this is why I enjoy laughing at FOSSies, just like the religious nutters even the tiniest bit of logic blows away your arguments. Your "talking points" are nothing but the classic circle of loon, in fact every argument you've EVER presented here can be covered in the top 10 TM repos because THAT is how predictable they are.

So go back to your circular logic and your magical mystical all powerful OS oh and DO be sure to ask MSFT for a check, because frankly your kind of batshit does more to sell Windows than a dozen powerpoints or even a lecture from RMS because it is YOU sir that make the entire Linux community look about as sane as the guys talking about the lizard people on Above Top Secret. Way to go there Sparky, way to make FOSS look like a bunch of crackpots and conspiracy theorists.

And here's Alex, resident FOSSie whackjob. First of the month, out of your meds already? Sadly you should take them as then you might be able to actually use logic because all of that is documented in the UEFI spec. It says that if you have physical control, then guess what? YOU are the owner! I know, what a concept, right?

You see this is why I enjoy laughing at FOSSies, just like the religious nutters even the tiniest bit of logic blows away your arguments. Your "talking points" are nothing but the classic circle of loon, in fact every argument you've EVER presented here can be covered in the top 10 TM repos because THAT is how predictable they are.

So go back to your circular logic and your magical mystical all powerful OS oh and DO be sure to ask MSFT for a check, because frankly your kind of batshit does more to sell Windows than a dozen powerpoints or even a lecture from RMS because it is YOU sir that make the entire Linux community look about as sane as the guys talking about the lizard people on Above Top Secret. Way to go there Sparky, way to make FOSS look like a bunch of crackpots and conspiracy theorists.

Nobody gives a shit about ZFS but server admins. Just to make this clear, pathetic as it may be that I have to spell this out for FOSSies but apparently they are too clueless to understand this, that or they know they can't win on the subject at hand so they move the goalposts so here goes: We are NOT talking about your LAMP, your cell phone OR your toaster. the majority does NOT care about these things and are NOT the subject at hand which is DESKTOPS. Go run your benches on your LAMP and post them to "Nobodygivesafuck.com" thanks.

As for repos if you are TRULY not smart enough to go to the site of the person that makes the software and download it? Then you should stay on Linux because you are too retarded to run anything else. But if downloading Adobe Flash is soooo damned difficult for you there is Ninite which is "check box, push button" and I might remind you your much touted repo system? yeah they were serving malware in the form of an infected Quake 3 for over a year and a half, sorry. And that's just one we KNOW about, not telling how many we don't because if you honestly think a handful of guys can check a revolving door of 20,000+ packages and understand even what 25% of them are doing I have some magic beans you might be interested in.

It doesn't change the fact that Linux? completely pointless on the desktop. this is why no B&Ms carry it, why both Walmart and Asus dropped it, its just pointless. The only REAL legitimate gripe, which was Windows requiring one to run as admin, was fixed half a decade ago. Even one of the Red hat engineers admits the Linux desktop model is broken but of course since that goes against your RELIGIOUS DOGMA you will probably say he's a M$ Ninja, sekretly working to attack RMS with fungicide on them nasty feets.

This is why i enjoy laughing at FOSSies, like Moonies or any other religious loonies the amount of hoop jumps they have to go through to justify their dogma in the face of logic is just as funny and entertaining. Just admit your logic follows the circle of loon already, otherwise please go back to compiling something as the vast majority of the world really DOES NOT CARE, it really really don't. Oh and guess what? Android shows what we have been saying all along, that as soon as Linux was a valuable target it would get fucked by the malware writers and surprise! android malware is all over the place. great security you have there chief, really makes it worth the bullshit and hassle. of course if you prefer that "security by obscurity" thing maybe you should go with haiku instead, that would make you REALLY leet, LOL!

Nobody gives a shit about ZFS but server admins. Just to make this clear, pathetic as it may be that I have to spell this out for FOSSies but apparently they are too clueless to understand this, that or they know they can't win on the subject at hand so they move the goalposts so here goes: We are NOT talking about your LAMP, your cell phone OR your toaster. the majority does NOT care about these things and are NOT the subject at hand which is DESKTOPS. Go run your benches on your LAMP and post them to "Nobodygivesafuck.com" thanks.

As for repos if you are TRULY not smart enough to go to the site of the person that makes the software and download it? Then you should stay on Linux because you are too retarded to run anything else. But if downloading Adobe Flash is soooo damned difficult for you there is Ninite which is "check box, push button" and I might remind you your much touted repo system? yeah they were serving malware in the form of an infected Quake 3 for over a year and a half, sorry. And that's just one we KNOW about, not telling how many we don't because if you honestly think a handful of guys can check a revolving door of 20,000+ packages and understand even what 25% of them are doing I have some magic beans you might be interested in.

It doesn't change the fact that Linux? completely pointless on the desktop. this is why no B&Ms carry it, why both Walmart and Asus dropped it, its just pointless. The only REAL legitimate gripe, which was Windows requiring one to run as admin, was fixed half a decade ago. Even one of the Red hat engineers admits the Linux desktop model is broken but of course since that goes against your RELIGIOUS DOGMA you will probably say he's a M$ Ninja, sekretly working to attack RMS with fungicide on them nasty feets.

This is why i enjoy laughing at FOSSies, like Moonies or any other religious loonies the amount of hoop jumps they have to go through to justify their dogma in the face of logic is just as funny and entertaining. Just admit your logic follows the circle of loon already, otherwise please go back to compiling something as the vast majority of the world really DOES NOT CARE, it really really don't. Oh and guess what? Android shows what we have been saying all along, that as soon as Linux was a valuable target it would get fucked by the malware writers and surprise! android malware is all over the place. great security you have there chief, really makes it worth the bullshit and hassle. of course if you prefer that "security by obscurity" thing maybe you should go with haiku instead, that would make you REALLY leet, LOL!

So which TM are you trying to invoke? is it imaginary problems kill Windows or people who "know" Linux love it or its great once you get "used" to it? If you are gonna spout the usual BS please choose the appropriate TM so we know which bullshit you are going for, thanks.

BTW I'm sorry your OS is totally pointless on the desktop, but it is. Even a tiny bit of common sense keeps Windows running bug and hassle free, hell you don't even have to PERSONALLY have any common sense, just know someone who does who can set the first run up for you, and all the decent software that is FOSS? yeah its all got a Windows port, sorry. Your OS just doesn't have any reason to exist on the desktop, its just a waste of time.

So which TM are you trying to invoke? is it imaginary problems kill Windows or people who "know" Linux love it or its great once you get "used" to it? If you are gonna spout the usual BS please choose the appropriate TM so we know which bullshit you are going for, thanks.

BTW I'm sorry your OS is totally pointless on the desktop, but it is. Even a tiny bit of common sense keeps Windows running bug and hassle free, hell you don't even have to PERSONALLY have any common sense, just know someone who does who can set the first run up for you, and all the decent software that is FOSS? yeah its all got a Windows port, sorry. Your OS just doesn't have any reason to exist on the desktop, its just a waste of time.

So which TM are you trying to invoke? is it imaginary problems kill Windows or people who "know" Linux love it or its great once you get "used" to it? If you are gonna spout the usual BS please choose the appropriate TM so we know which bullshit you are going for, thanks.

BTW I'm sorry your OS is totally pointless on the desktop, but it is. Even a tiny bit of common sense keeps Windows running bug and hassle free, hell you don't even have to PERSONALLY have any common sense, just know someone who does who can set the first run up for you, and all the decent software that is FOSS? yeah its all got a Windows port, sorry. Your OS just doesn't have any reason to exist on the desktop, its just a waste of time.

Isn't it funny how all the Linux guys can't seem to keep Windows running and clean, while everybody else doesn't seem to have a bit o' trouble? I got an old Sempron 1.8Ghz running XP that I got from a customer in a trade in around 08, that thing is running with the same install and NO BUGS, no crashes, hell other than slapping another Gb of RAM into it I haven't done a damned thing except run it damned near 24/7 as a nettop and file server and it just purrs like a kitten. The box I'm typing this on has had the same Win 7 install since RTM in Oct 09, again perfect and hassle free.

So if you wanna go all batshit? hey, knock yourself out, who am i to judge. but frankly Linux is a hell of a lot more of a PITA than Windows on its worst day. Don't take my word for it, read this fine article from one of the Red hat devs who says what linux is going through now is its "death cries" from mistakes made in the design at its conception. he says the quality will continue to go downhill simply because there is no way to QA an entire repo and have any progress and he's right.

So if you want to spend your weekends fiddling with your PC like a 73 Dodge? hey whatever floats your boat. the rest of us just use a decent AV and a tiny bit of common sense and magically we don't have any problems. Oh and before anybody responds with the usual BS please go to TM Repo and make sure you're just not repeating memes, or if you are at least give us the TM to save time, thanks.

And notice the guy below your post using the classic Use Distro X because it doesn't matter WHICH distro you try, or the fact that there really is only a few main branches (Debain, Red hat, and Slax) with just a little futzing (which breaks more things natch) nope, its use distro X! (TM)

For the record i invite anyone to try my experiment and I tried Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, PCLOS, Fedora (I know but I got told Use Distro X with Fedora enough times i did it to shut them up) Mepis, Slax, and a couple more that were niche enough I can't recall the names without looking them up which I can't be arsed and why should I? Pick your poison, the results are the same. Take ANY version from 4 years ago and upgrade to current using ONLY THE GUI as a normal user would be expected to do and THE OS WILL BE BROKEN. It might be totally broken or it might be just slightly broken but it WILL be broken!

And for those that say "Windows will do the same!" BULLSHIT, Bull fucking shit. You get TEN YEARS of support for ANY MSFT OS, home or business. You can't even get a four year old Linux to upgrade without crapping all over itself, especially wireless and sound (although for McGrew I found SiS and AMD NICs got crapped on a lot too) and I'm sure as fuck not gonna bankrupt myself giving away free lifetime support because the damned OS can't even stay current without having the devs take a massive dump all over the damned place.

So believe me friend, what you had happened to you was just the top of a VERY shitty cake. i bet you were using enterprise grade hardware, which while still getting shat upon at least gets shat upon less, try it with any of the hardware you get at your average OEM and see how it goes. They say its a drop in replacement for Windows but that is only in bizarro world, I've had less hassle taking an XP RTM and upgrading it to current, that is TWELVE YEARS of updates and service packs, then getting even a four year old Linux to update its security state without taking a crap. its just too big of a buggy unstable mess for the masses and THAT is why OEMs and shops like mine won't touch it PERIOD.

What I have always found interesting is how much of their rhetoric, especially against the BSDs and those using proprietary software, is very similar to the *.A.A. In both cases they come up with ever more crazy "doom scenarios" that will befall you if you don't do things THEIR way, and both act like any path other than doing things their way is just insanity and "you must be one of THEM!" if you don't agree with them. I always found that fascinating, how you can take a post from a rabid GPLer and a rabid pro *.A.A and change very few words and have the same post.

This is extra funny when you read some of the hoops RMS used to get through flaws in his own philosophy, such as by DISABLING the ability to update the firmware that suddenly magically makes it a "circuit" and thus okay, wait, what? Oh its just old RMS finding a way to wiggle around the fact that a piece of software isn't FOSS by coming up with a loophole to make it still work under GPL when it don't.

Frankly I find all the crazy hoop jumping and rhetoric kinda interesting, as RMS doesn't seem to be advocating classic communism, he doesn't seem to be having a problem with paying electricians or doctors or dentists, just programmers who should all work for free. Oh he says you can sell GPL software sure, but logically its obvious you can sell ONE copy and after that you are screwed. of course there is the support model but again logically it wouldn't make sense to do your best as if it works perfectly OOTB why would you need to buy support?

Logically the entire movement just doesn't make sense to me. a good programmer takes years of schooling and experience in the field, yet somehow they are supposed to be worth less than everyone else, as nobody is is being asked to work for free under RMS' rules, just programmers. What makes the sweat off the programmer's brow worth less than the dentist or mechanic? Do they not just as much education and hard work to achieve quality in the field? Hell maybe I could understand it if RMS were a classical communist or socialist, where everyone should work towards the group doing better but he's not, he just doesn't seem to think programmers are worth anything. Kinda ironic when both projects he gets credit for, GCC and Emacs, are actually forks that he "blessed' to keep from being cut out of the loop.

Oh yeah, BTW Crosshair there is a trademark for this attitude so next time someone pulls it on you just give 'em a link to Use Esoteric Workarounds because using a 40 step hoop jump is ALWAYS better than just designing the damned thing with common sense!..../facepalm/

Hell look at the posts after you and you'll LYAO, they've full on jumped from "MSFT will make Linux a felony ZOMFG!" right into "MSFT is gonna move the OS into the cloud and you'll get arrested if you don't pay your $699 license fee ZOMFG!" full on batshit.

Ya wanna know what the REALLY sad part is to me? Most of the normal folks like me that were using Linux in 05 and 06 have frankly moved away simply BECAUSE of all the batshit. Its like being a normal person around total weirdos, its just creepy. Hell I know every time I had a problem and went to the forums I always got works for me and Ur a M$ Ninja!

I don't know what happened because i swear it did NOT used to be like this. Guys used to actually care about problems and wanted Linux to get better, and would bitch when things were broken or got worse. Now i swear its like a damned religion, where ALL comments that aren't simply praise of "the one true god" causes the nutters to come down like flies on shit, and all the FOSS posts or articles, hell even articles that don't have a damned thing to do with FOSS, end up with nothing but conspiracy theories and pointless "just use Linux!" posts. No wonder so many look at FOSSies like this. Hell I'm starting to wonder if that isn't an accurate description myself.

Hell look at the posts after you and you'll LYAO, they've full on jumped from "MSFT will make Linux a felony ZOMFG!" right into "MSFT is gonna move the OS into the cloud and you'll get arrested if you don't pay your $699 license fee ZOMFG!" full on batshit.

Ya wanna know what the REALLY sad part is to me? Most of the normal folks like me that were using Linux in 05 and 06 have frankly moved away simply BECAUSE of all the batshit. Its like being a normal person around total weirdos, its just creepy. Hell I know every time I had a problem and went to the forums I always got works for me and Ur a M$ Ninja!

I don't know what happened because i swear it did NOT used to be like this. Guys used to actually care about problems and wanted Linux to get better, and would bitch when things were broken or got worse. Now i swear its like a damned religion, where ALL comments that aren't simply praise of "the one true god" causes the nutters to come down like flies on shit, and all the FOSS posts or articles, hell even articles that don't have a damned thing to do with FOSS, end up with nothing but conspiracy theories and pointless "just use Linux!" posts. No wonder so many look at FOSSies like this. Hell I'm starting to wonder if that isn't an accurate description myself.

Well then you are supporting a company whose co-founder said "privacy is dead, get over it" but if you are cool with that? Fine and dandy. Unlike those that treat software as a religion I think you should use what works for you and if Google tracking everything (ever see how much shit Chrome collects?) is cool with you then far be it from me to judge.

That doesn't change the fact that NONE of the companies I named have clean hands, not one. No matter how much PR they spin the big multinationals are just that, multinationals and frankly if they could boost their profits by 15% by throwing you in a cage with a horny silverback you'd be getting gorilla loving before sunset. So maybe if others here would stop treating corps as ballclubs then maybe they too could make informed decisions.

So, which TM are you going for? The Linux makes me smart TM? Or maybe pay someone to fix it or its free you can't complain aka shit sandwich? From now on before pushing the same bullshit would you please go and pick the appropriate TM (which less than a dozen cover every FOSSie post ever placed here) so we can all save time? Thanks.

So, which TM are you going for? The Linux makes me smart TM? Or maybe pay someone to fix it or its free you can't complain aka shit sandwich? From now on before pushing the same bullshit would you please go and pick the appropriate TM (which less than a dozen cover every FOSSie post ever placed here) so we can all save time? Thanks.

So, which TM are you going for? The Linux makes me smart TM? Or maybe pay someone to fix it or its free you can't complain aka shit sandwich? From now on before pushing the same bullshit would you please go and pick the appropriate TM (which less than a dozen cover every FOSSie post ever placed here) so we can all save time? Thanks.

Except they WOULD because the new library would be dropped on their ass when they clicked that little "update now' button in the taskbar. BTW I have YET to see that God damned thing work right on ANY system, this is tech that fucking MSFT has gotten right for damned near a decade and you STILL can't even upgrade the thing without software and drivers being shit all over just as the one that bragged about Gentoo, aka Use Distro X because no matter how many broken distros you try they will ALWAYS come up with another answer for X and then in the same breath do as that joker did and say recompiling software is just fine.

Or are you HONESTLY gonna say that Linux is magical and never needs security updates? or that using old version with known vulnerabilities is fine in Linux because...what? RMS spreads magical toe funk? In the end its just the classic circle of the loon because it just goes round and round but it never gets fixed or ever gets better. sure they can do the initial install, but that is a static target, its the updates and upgrades and drivers that are the shit sandwich now and frankly haven't gotten any better in years.

Except they WOULD because the new library would be dropped on their ass when they clicked that little "update now' button in the taskbar. BTW I have YET to see that God damned thing work right on ANY system, this is tech that fucking MSFT has gotten right for damned near a decade and you STILL can't even upgrade the thing without software and drivers being shit all over just as the one that bragged about Gentoo, aka Use Distro X because no matter how many broken distros you try they will ALWAYS come up with another answer for X and then in the same breath do as that joker did and say recompiling software is just fine.

Or are you HONESTLY gonna say that Linux is magical and never needs security updates? or that using old version with known vulnerabilities is fine in Linux because...what? RMS spreads magical toe funk? In the end its just the classic circle of the loon because it just goes round and round but it never gets fixed or ever gets better. sure they can do the initial install, but that is a static target, its the updates and upgrades and drivers that are the shit sandwich now and frankly haven't gotten any better in years.

Well lets say...how many of my customers have had to bring their systems back because they caught a bug? that would be...ONE. That's it. And the ONLY reason that he caught a bug was he not only refused to listen to me but first tried to disable and then uninstalled his AV when it wouldn't let him install "The New Limewire" which of course was just a malware package labeled limewire. It doesn't take ANY knowledge to run Vista or 7 perfectly safe, since neither OS runs as admin which was the one big flaw. A free AV, leaving OS updates to automatic, using IE or Chrome, yeah that's so hard. BTW isn't it funny that it is the Linux guys that always can't seem to get Windows to run? What does it say about your "leet" skills?

And I'm sorry but I call bullshit. if you are using Linux and not talking out your ass you are using it on a dumpster dived Intel box because frankly on laptops or more modern systems it royally blows ass. I have tried more than 15 different distros on bog standard desktops and laptops and following the GUI instructions (As a NORMAL user would be expected to, or are you HONESTLY arguing that running a free AV is "too hard" but that Suzy the checkout girl is gonna learn bash?) as listed by the OS and watched as it royally crapped itself. Pulseaudio is a bad fucking joke and the wireless networking is absolute shit. With latter version of Windows one frankly rarely needs the driver for such things because WU already has them and will install automatically. tell me friend, where is the "find drivers" or "rollback drivers" buttons in Linux? Oh right, they just don't exist even though windows has had them for a fricking dozen years now. Some great OS you have there chief.

In the end Linux is DEAD on the desktop, the numbers lower than fucking Java cell phones, and its all because frankly to paraphrase the line from Full Metal Jacket you think that "Inside every Suzy the checkout girl is a bash programmer waiting to get out" and then you have the sheer mind numbing gall to complain that Windows is hard? Really? BTW next time why don't you do us both a favor and simply list which Linux trademarks you are gonna use to save us both some time. Honestly I can take any FOSSie rant such as yours and replace with nothing but the Linux TMs because the same tired old horseshit has been used over and over AND OVER, yet you gain NO share? Guess your "leet OS" isn't so great after all, huh?

Well lets say...how many of my customers have had to bring their systems back because they caught a bug? that would be...ONE. That's it. And the ONLY reason that he caught a bug was he not only refused to listen to me but first tried to disable and then uninstalled his AV when it wouldn't let him install "The New Limewire" which of course was just a malware package labeled limewire. It doesn't take ANY knowledge to run Vista or 7 perfectly safe, since neither OS runs as admin which was the one big flaw. A free AV, leaving OS updates to automatic, using IE or Chrome, yeah that's so hard. BTW isn't it funny that it is the Linux guys that always can't seem to get Windows to run? What does it say about your "leet" skills?

And I'm sorry but I call bullshit. if you are using Linux and not talking out your ass you are using it on a dumpster dived Intel box because frankly on laptops or more modern systems it royally blows ass. I have tried more than 15 different distros on bog standard desktops and laptops and following the GUI instructions (As a NORMAL user would be expected to, or are you HONESTLY arguing that running a free AV is "too hard" but that Suzy the checkout girl is gonna learn bash?) as listed by the OS and watched as it royally crapped itself. Pulseaudio is a bad fucking joke and the wireless networking is absolute shit. With latter version of Windows one frankly rarely needs the driver for such things because WU already has them and will install automatically. tell me friend, where is the "find drivers" or "rollback drivers" buttons in Linux? Oh right, they just don't exist even though windows has had them for a fricking dozen years now. Some great OS you have there chief.

In the end Linux is DEAD on the desktop, the numbers lower than fucking Java cell phones, and its all because frankly to paraphrase the line from Full Metal Jacket you think that "Inside every Suzy the checkout girl is a bash programmer waiting to get out" and then you have the sheer mind numbing gall to complain that Windows is hard? Really? BTW next time why don't you do us both a favor and simply list which Linux trademarks you are gonna use to save us both some time. Honestly I can take any FOSSie rant such as yours and replace with nothing but the Linux TMs because the same tired old horseshit has been used over and over AND OVER, yet you gain NO share? Guess your "leet OS" isn't so great after all, huh?

Well lets say...how many of my customers have had to bring their systems back because they caught a bug? that would be...ONE. That's it. And the ONLY reason that he caught a bug was he not only refused to listen to me but first tried to disable and then uninstalled his AV when it wouldn't let him install "The New Limewire" which of course was just a malware package labeled limewire. It doesn't take ANY knowledge to run Vista or 7 perfectly safe, since neither OS runs as admin which was the one big flaw. A free AV, leaving OS updates to automatic, using IE or Chrome, yeah that's so hard. BTW isn't it funny that it is the Linux guys that always can't seem to get Windows to run? What does it say about your "leet" skills?

And I'm sorry but I call bullshit. if you are using Linux and not talking out your ass you are using it on a dumpster dived Intel box because frankly on laptops or more modern systems it royally blows ass. I have tried more than 15 different distros on bog standard desktops and laptops and following the GUI instructions (As a NORMAL user would be expected to, or are you HONESTLY arguing that running a free AV is "too hard" but that Suzy the checkout girl is gonna learn bash?) as listed by the OS and watched as it royally crapped itself. Pulseaudio is a bad fucking joke and the wireless networking is absolute shit. With latter version of Windows one frankly rarely needs the driver for such things because WU already has them and will install automatically. tell me friend, where is the "find drivers" or "rollback drivers" buttons in Linux? Oh right, they just don't exist even though windows has had them for a fricking dozen years now. Some great OS you have there chief.

In the end Linux is DEAD on the desktop, the numbers lower than fucking Java cell phones, and its all because frankly to paraphrase the line from Full Metal Jacket you think that "Inside every Suzy the checkout girl is a bash programmer waiting to get out" and then you have the sheer mind numbing gall to complain that Windows is hard? Really? BTW next time why don't you do us both a favor and simply list which Linux trademarks you are gonna use to save us both some time. Honestly I can take any FOSSie rant such as yours and replace with nothing but the Linux TMs because the same tired old horseshit has been used over and over AND OVER, yet you gain NO share? Guess your "leet OS" isn't so great after all, huh?

There won't be any flamewars because as it says in my sig I ignore ACs and most of the FOSSies here only post as ACs since they have their regular accounts modded to hell because of batshit conspiracy posts. They also have no comeback to one simple fact, ALL OSes USED to be CLIs and now they are not, why? Because GUIs are explorable and discoverable, CLI is not. Do you use CLI with an iPhone? Android? No? Why? Because its a crappy human interface that's why. But as long as those that have drank the koolaid truly believe that CLI has gonad powers then things simply won't get any better.

So if they want to be like RMS and Discos Stu and hang out in 1978 that is fine by me, just like the rest of the planet i'll just ignore them.

See this is why I love to LMAO at the FOSSies, they are so "There is but one true god!" they can't even think, its like a cross between village idiot and conspiracy nut, all rolled into one!

You want some fresh bitch slapping? Be careful what you wish for FOSSie, how about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something. But why don't you say "Use Distro X" and then have the balls to name the X so i can show its just as big a POS, huh? BTW frankly everyone has stop giving a fuck about your OS, you aren't even newsworthy anymore really. Now its all Win 7&8, OSX&iOS, and of course Android which just shows what happens when a company bitch slaps the community and takes it away from them, why it actually fucking runs!

How sad that even with a bug spreading through OSX there are writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

See this is why I love to LMAO at the FOSSies, they are so "There is but one true god!" they can't even think, its like a cross between village idiot and conspiracy nut, all rolled into one!

You want some fresh bitch slapping? Be careful what you wish for FOSSie, how about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something. But why don't you say "Use Distro X" and then have the balls to name the X so i can show its just as big a POS, huh? BTW frankly everyone has stop giving a fuck about your OS, you aren't even newsworthy anymore really. Now its all Win 7&8, OSX&iOS, and of course Android which just shows what happens when a company bitch slaps the community and takes it away from them, why it actually fucking runs!

How sad that even with a bug spreading through OSX there are writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

See this is why I love to LMAO at the FOSSies, they are so "There is but one true god!" they can't even think, its like a cross between village idiot and conspiracy nut, all rolled into one!

You want some fresh bitch slapping? Be careful what you wish for FOSSie, how about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something. But why don't you say "Use Distro X" and then have the balls to name the X so i can show its just as big a POS, huh? BTW frankly everyone has stop giving a fuck about your OS, you aren't even newsworthy anymore really. Now its all Win 7&8, OSX&iOS, and of course Android which just shows what happens when a company bitch slaps the community and takes it away from them, why it actually fucking runs!

How sad that even with a bug spreading through OSX there are writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

All one has to do is look at the before and after numbers friend, the data doesn't lie. Right up until GPL V3 the numbers were consistent, it was going up quarter by quarter, after GPL V3 the numbers were flat for the first quarter (as businesses looked it over) and then it has been a straight down curve ever since. look up the numbers yourself, it makes a pretty little bell curve.

But you see posts like yours, where yes you did get all butthurt EXACTLY as I predicted, is why I separate FOSS advocates from FOSSies. A FOSS advocate uses FOSS because it is the best tool for a particular job they have, FOSSies look upon it as a religion, FOSS advocates argue their position with the pros and cons, FOSSies see everything as a personal attack on their Deity. This phenomena isn't exactly a secret, it is why we have comics like this and this and actual syndromes like this one. If you would like to see an example of this syndrome BTW, please go to linux Insider and look up anything posted by pogson, its soo funny to watch a FOSSie as he keeps saying "That other OS" or M$ because he's sure that if he types the actual word then MSFT Ninjas will get him, hilarious!

So whether you like it or not frankly means nothing to me, I honestly don't care, i just love to LMAO at loons and lately FOSSies have been funny as hell. I mean can you even picture a Mac user typing "the OS from Redmond ooohhh" or a windows user typing "The kernel that must not be named' its just too damned funny the kind of batshit crazy that RMS attracts, hell its comedy gold!

See this is why I love LMAO at the FOSSies, they are so "There is but one true god!" they can't even think, like how you at the very first sentence threw an insult and then dared to get butthurt when i slapped your dumb ass down.

You want some fresh bitch slapping? Be careful what you wish for FOSSie, how about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something. But why don't you say "Use Distro X" and then have the balls to name the X so i can show its just as big a POS, huh? As for why the older ones? frankly everyone has stop giving a fuck about your OS, you aren't even newsworthy anymore really. Now its all Win 7&8, OSX&iOS, and of course Android which just shows what happens when a company bitch slaps the community and takes it away from them, why it actually fucking runs!

How sad that even with a bug spreading through OSX there are writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Oh and Microsoft doesn't need shills, they have YOU. Its batshit loony tunes like YOU that make the entire community look like retarded basement trolls, its YOU that gives everyone the fodder for all the "Linux is for lusers" jokes, because you sound like a religious whacko. Frankly all any Microsoft or Apple rep has to do is show posts like yours and say 'you would want you company de

See this is why I love LMAO at the FOSSies, they are so "There is but one true god!" they can't even think, like how you at the very first sentence threw an insult and then dared to get butthurt when i slapped your dumb ass down.

You want some fresh bitch slapping? Be careful what you wish for FOSSie, how about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something. But why don't you say "Use Distro X" and then have the balls to name the X so i can show its just as big a POS, huh? As for why the older ones? frankly everyone has stop giving a fuck about your OS, you aren't even newsworthy anymore really. Now its all Win 7&8, OSX&iOS, and of course Android which just shows what happens when a company bitch slaps the community and takes it away from them, why it actually fucking runs!

How sad that even with a bug spreading through OSX there are writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Oh and Microsoft doesn't need shills, they have YOU. Its batshit loony tunes like YOU that make the entire community look like retarded basement trolls, its YOU that gives everyone the fodder for all the "Linux is for lusers" jokes, because you sound like a religious whacko. Frankly all any Microsoft or Apple rep has to do is show posts like yours and say 'you would want you company de

See this is why I love LMAO at the FOSSies, they are so "There is but one true god!" they can't even think, like how you at the very first sentence threw an insult and then dared to get butthurt when i slapped your dumb ass down.

You want some fresh bitch slapping? Be careful what you wish for FOSSie, how about a nice kernel exploit? Or how about the guy that wrote EEEBuntu saying Ubuntu sucks which considering they are the current savior of Linux kinda tells you something. But why don't you say "Use Distro X" and then have the balls to name the X so i can show its just as big a POS, huh? As for why the older ones? frankly everyone has stop giving a fuck about your OS, you aren't even newsworthy anymore really. Now its all Win 7&8, OSX&iOS, and of course Android which just shows what happens when a company bitch slaps the community and takes it away from them, why it actually fucking runs!

How sad that even with a bug spreading through OSX there are writers pointing out that's no reason to torture yourself with Linux , after all even a virus ridden OSX actually runs which is more than most distros LOL! But hey, you can always tell them they can fix it otherwise they don't need that right? LOL! And I noticed you just couldn't fricking resist screaming "Nigger!" which in FOSSie is done by screaming PaidMicrosoftShill, hey you think you could throw in one more FOSSie cliche please? Then I'll have a FOSSie Flush ROFL!

But if you didn't have cliches and your pathetic attempts at insults why then you might have to have an independent thought and realize what everybody knows that even when MSFT put out a universally reviled OS you STILL got curb stomped, does that give you ANY clues? or all they all brainwashed by those black choppers that have been following you? Hell when the Chinese were given the choice of your "free OS" or pirating Windows they chose the latter even if it meant staying on XP and using IE fricking 6, LOL! Does that ring ANY bells? A smart person would say "what are we doing wrong the other guy is doing right?" but a FOSSie who is just like a Moonie in that they blindly follow, instead says "Its all a conspiracy! They are all shills keeping the masses from true salvation!" and then you wonder why we all laugh at you because you DON'T Listen, you DON'T learn, and Torvalds could take a big steaming dump and hand it to you and you'd thank him for his generous gift. So enjoy that fresh bitchslapping loony, enjoy the fact that the world really doesn't care...but I do, I enjoy slapping you, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Oh and Microsoft doesn't need shills, they have YOU. Its batshit loony tunes like YOU that make the entire community look like retarded basement trolls, its YOU that gives everyone the fodder for all the "Linux is for lusers" jokes, because you sound like a religious whacko. Frankly all any Microsoft or Apple rep has to do is show posts like yours and say 'you would want you company de

Oh look, its a FOSSie, aka basement troll. How's the koolaid, is it cherry? You want some links on breakage? be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it and that is showing that one of the largest OEMs on the planet can't keep your craptastic OS running without having to do their own fricking fork!

This is why a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? want some more? Nice thing about having the truth on your side instead of religious dogma, i can do this alllll day long! How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses

And how about that "great" Linux security that is supposed to be why we should put up with all this horseshit? Get ready, here they come! Kinda makes that koolaid just a little bitter now, don't it? Now why would anybody care when they could get a Mac or Win 7 and not deal with all this lies and horseshit?

BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? take a look and see. Maybe they just had bad configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means.

Hell I'd give props for that for being old school enough to remember what it was like back in the days of the 8.3 at least. But lets be honest the "M$" bit is part of a more insidious disease the guys at TMRepos have named "Voldemort Syndrome" where Linux crazies find themselves incapable of typing ANYTHING but "That other OS" or "M$" like a sekret M$ Ninja is gonna jump out from under their bed and make them run WinME if they write "that which must not be named". Think I'm bullshitting? Go over to LinuxInsider and look up anything written by Pogson as he is a perfect example, we also have pretty much anything written by Oakgrove here. they are simply incapable of writing MS or MSFT, or MSoft or your cute Micros~1, its like brain damage or something and makes the whole community look batshit.

Sadly this is why I came up with the phrase "FOSSies" to separate FOSS users and developers, which are usually smart and knowledgeable folks, from the total batshit that seems to have taken over a portion of the FOSS community. In a way it reminds me of how the republican party got jacked in the 80s by the religious whackos that pushed out the fiscal conservatives and libertarians so that now we actually have a ME policy written based on a single line written on a sheep's ass 1800 years ago that says a guy that been dead over 2000 years needs a certain race to valet park his fluffy cloud.

because in both cases you have all differing opinions and voices of reason drowned out by slobbering zealots that scream louder, act ruder, and basically treat everything as a crusade. Part of this I blame on RMS who if anything has become more militant (and more than a little batshit, what with eating toe funk on stage and all) in his old age who constantly frames EVERY damned argument as a "good VS evil" religious battle but in the end if the saner voices don't stand up they risk being drowned out just as you won't find a Barry Goldwater conservative within a hundred miles of a neocon tent.

I already pimp slapped him around for a couple of posts where he wasn't even able to read properly. hell the moron can't even quote a post correctly and he has a BAD case of Voldemort which you might want to point out next time you slap him around as its soooo funny! Voldemort is where a foaming at the mouth FOSSie can't say the words "Microsoft or MS or MSFT" because they are afraid the boogey man will jump on and get them, so they HAVE to put "M$" or "that other OS'. Its a perfect sign of delusional persecution complex. But hey, what do you expect from a guy that followed me around for 6 months all over the web just so he could post "die you fat fucker die" only to move onto you when he got his "brilliant" theory that you and i are the same guy even though we aren't even in the same time zone or have anything in common other than we both occasionally post here.

I personally think its funny as hell he's so afraid of that sentence of mine he's afraid to quote it correctly, its "As far as the users are concerned there is no command line in windows" which of course is 100% correct as you could remove CLI tomorrow from the worlds Windows machines and more than 95% would never notice. Can you imagine if you put out a patch that removed CLI from linux? they would treat it as a terrorist attack LOL!

BTW you might want to give Comodo SecureDNS a spin as i've been trying my damnedest to infect a machine i plan on wiping while using SecureDNS and so far it hasn't let shit through, not a single malware site or infected ad has made it past them. i bet if you combined it with your HOSTS file you'd probably have greater than 98% protection. I know it integrated nicely with my recursive DNS and actually gave me about a 12% speed boost when it came to lookup speed and its 100% free, pretty nice. Oh and just FYI but if you haven't done so you really ought to sign up for the Tigerdirect emails, they are letting their thuban X6 chips go for like $109 as long as stocks last but only through their email coupons. I snatched one up and its a transcoding monster with more OCing headroom than I've ever seen in a chip, I managed to get up to 3.4GHz without raising volts until I thought "WTF do I need the extra speed for? its already a monster" and dropped it back down. Pair it with an Asrock board and a Hyper n520 and you have a fricking badass PC for less than the cost of building a Pentium G series PC. Oh and Geeks has the HD4850s brand new for $50, works kick ass in CF, just saying.

So what you are bragging about is you are using a very very very very very very very very very very VERY old GUI, is that correct? Perhaps you might want to read this and rethink your position.

Is that the new nigger and faggot, troll and shill? Because its pretty damned obvious to tell a real shill, see the one at the top of this article with no less than 6 links including Youtube videos, all in under 3 minutes and still managing to get first post. Now THAT is obviously shilling, since they took the time to have it all prepped and ready to go. oh and the linux guys aren't grass roots, they're just plain old batshit. Look at how many here have Voldemort syndrome. Hell you don't see Apple guys going "That company that is from the northwest one mustn't speak of!" or Windows guys going "That certain company that makes things with the letter i, but don't say it out loud!" but Voldemort syndrome has spread through the Linux community like a damned cancer. I can see why so many of the ones i used to converse with in 05,06 ended up going Mac, the nutjobs are kinda embarrassing now.

So please, go ahead and call me a nigger now, or is it faggot? Since the batshit extremists have started taking over this place I've so far been accused of shilling for, in no particular order, MSFT (which is funny considering how much I've written about why Win 8 sucks ass), Comodo (never been to India, sorry) Apple (WTF? I don't even own an iPod) and I was even told by a FOSSie that my saying IE was a giant pile of shit was actually shilling FOR IE, still haven't figured out how that works. I guess if you don't put "All hail RMS" afterwards it must count as a positive for IE.

But frankly when the REAL shills and astroturfers are so damned obvious you can play buzzword bingo with their posts all this nigger faggot name calling just makes you sound like a 14 year old halo player. BTW I bet you own an X360 yes? can't get enough of that teabagging i bet.

U Mad Bro? don't feel bad, you just picked a loser, that's all. hell even the United States government found your bullshit to be a big pile of shite. but hey, you can tell them that they are just jealous and CLI is leet and its written by skilled programmers don't forget Linux runs on toasters LOL! BTW isn't the 6 month upgrade deathmarch coming up, AKA the great Linux "LOL I made a stinky" where you have to do the "great forum hunt" to find the fixes to make your POS run another day? better carve some time out for that. oh and just to show there is no hard feelings let me leave you with some wisdom from your "dear leader" LOL!

U Mad Bro? don't feel bad, you just picked a loser, that's all. hell even the United States government found your bullshit to be a big pile of shite. but hey, you can tell them that they are just jealous and CLI is leet and its written by skilled programmers don't forget Linux runs on toasters LOL! BTW isn't the 6 month upgrade deathmarch coming up, AKA the great Linux "LOL I made a stinky" where you have to do the "great forum hunt" to find the fixes to make your POS run another day? better carve some time out for that. oh and just to show there is no hard feelings let me leave you with some wisdom from your "dear leader" LOL!

U Mad Bro? don't feel bad, you just picked a loser, that's all. hell even the United States government found your bullshit to be a big pile of shite. but hey, you can tell them that they are just jealous and CLI is leet and its written by skilled programmers don't forget Linux runs on toasters LOL! BTW isn't the 6 month upgrade deathmarch coming up, AKA the great Linux "LOL I made a stinky" where you have to do the "great forum hunt" to find the fixes to make your POS run another day? better carve some time out for that. oh and just to show there is no hard feelings let me leave you with some wisdom from your "dear leader" LOL!

U Mad Bro? don't feel bad, you just picked a loser, that's all. hell even the United States government found your bullshit to be a big pile of shite. but hey, you can tell them that they are just jealous and CLI is leet and its written by skilled programmers don't forget Linux runs on toasters LOL! BTW isn't the 6 month upgrade deathmarch coming up, AKA the great Linux "LOL I made a stinky" where you have to do the "great forum hunt" to find the fixes to make your POS run another day? better carve some time out for that. oh and just to show there is no hard feelings let me leave you with some wisdom from your "dear leader" LOL!

Thank you for living proof that FOSSies are batshit. you still think that I'm a guy that I can't even get along with and to this very day we don't agree on anything OTHER than the fact you're batshit? delusional much? but if its a pimp slapping of your craptastic OS you want, enjoy! See that's the nice thing about reality, while all you have is insults I have facts! Where are YOUR facts? oh right, they don't exist :-(

Get ready, here they come! Kinda makes that koolaid just a little bitter now, don't it? I believe in using the best tool for the job, but to say Linux is secure or better than any other complex OS is frankly bullshit. Hell I was talking to a 15 year Linux admin on one of the other sites that had gotten so sick of Linux fuckups they were going to BSD and if THAT didn't "just work" they were gonna wash their hands of FLOSS on the desktop and just go Mac.

BTW if you'd like a little more food for thought, what OS was 3 of the 4 CAs running that were compromised? take a look and see. Maybe they just had configs? Surely someone with knowledge would be safe right? Guess again and its not a fluke by any means.

Would you like some more reality? well here it comes! Isn't it sad, how like a frightened child afraid to look under the bed, you cower at the truth? if your driver model isn't shit then why does Dell have to run their own repos even though we are talking a teeny tiny subset of hardware? Oh right because Linux shits itself and dies if you use the default repos! Man that is some excellent product you got there! you think I can get better QA than the third largest OEM on the planet? What, you expect me to tell paying customers "Go to the forum, kiss some loser ass, and maybe, just maybe, in a few days someone will have mercy and give you a big pile of bullshit that may or may not make your sound work again"?

Bleeding yet douchey? want some more? nice thing about having the truth on your side, you can keep throwing punches all day! How about how a decade old Windows beat the shit out of Linux on netbooks or how ASUS has given up on your bullshit or how about Walmart running away from linux as fast as it can? You got the crazy koolaid drunk enough to say they ALL are paid shills because they won't do your forum dance or CLI horseshit? Meanwhile your "hero" Torvalds the great says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans!. Why don't you tell them that at work next week, see how quick you get a pink slip? More? How about you actually have the balls to celebrate getting a whole 1% market share while you are actually lower than JavaME and there is a whole website dedicated To your bullshit and excuses .

You see you whiny little delusional mama's boy, I'm your worst fucking nightmare...a retaile