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Re: undermining the Tor system
I was speaking in general to the notion that counting commits means anything; I don't know anything about her. And I certainly wouldn't get all pedantic about the term 'developer' as used in an article on the web; where everyone from a system architect, to the person who edits the content on the company intranet via CMS is routinely called a 'developer'.
But fine, you've made me look... happy?
https://www.torproject.org/abo...
"Isis: Lead maintainer and developer on BridgeDB. Used to work on OONI."
So where does that take us:
https://bridges.torproject.org..."When using Tor with Tails in its default configuration, anyone who can observe the traffic of your Internet connection (for example your Internet Service Provider and perhaps your government and law enforcement agencies) can know that you are using Tor."
"This may be an issue if you are in a country where the following applies:
1. Using Tor is blocked by censorship [...]
2. Using Tor is dangerous or considered suspicious: in this case starting Tails in its default configuration might get you into serious trouble. [...]"Tor bridges, also called Tor bridge relays, are alternative entry points to the Tor network that are not all listed publicly. Using a bridge makes it harder, but not impossible, for your Internet Service Provider to know that you are using Tor."
isislovecruft #1: 1,619 commits, 130,599++ / 82,789--
https://github.com/isislovecru...and
https://ooni.torproject.org/"A free software, global observation network for detecting censorship, surveillance and traffic manipulation on the internet"
isislovecruft #2 with 271 commits, 31,590++, 23,581 --
https://github.com/TheTorProje...She removed ONE line of code (a double free). That is it. That isn't a core developer.
That burning feeling in your cheeks... that's the shame. Assuming you are a decent human.
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Re:undermining the Tor system
Sure she hasn't done much on the git repo, but her cv which is hosted on a Tor site, seems to suggest she's been pretty involved with the project for a while.
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Re:Can someone explain me?
Sure, I can explain. TOR originally evolved out of research by the US Navy but is now developed as an open source projects by volunteers. It has occasionally been used for secure communication by US government organizations (see main TOR project page), though there is no evidence that they used it or use it on a large scale. It is not supported or endorsed by the NSA or CIA---at least not officially.
Here is a list of current and past sponsors:
is backed by gobernment money
Of course, definitely. The National Science Foundation has contributed at various times, as the above list says.
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Tor themselves say the FBI can investigate users
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/did-fbi-pay-university-attack-tor-users
The Tor project themselves say that the FBI can investigate users and that Tor stands ready to assist the FBI in doing so.
Unlike a lot of folks here I actually like the FBI but ultimately they're people, people are lazy and the FBI was being very lazy when they pursued this. Of course they don't see it that way -- they see it as trying to maximize the return on budget dollars over the long term.
Judge Dredd would be extremely cost effective too, but the US constitution was written to forbid both scenarios.
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Re:Like HolaVPN and Zenmate?
I've found the Tor Browser and Tor to be excellent free VPN services for browsing and general networking, respectively.
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Re:Like HolaVPN and Zenmate?
I've found the Tor Browser and Tor to be excellent free VPN services for browsing and general networking, respectively.
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Re:Standard tactics
The police department itself answered some of your questions before you posted them here. From one of the links in the summary (emphasis mine):
[Seattle Police Department] spokesperson Sean Whitcomb said the department understands how Tor works and that before executing the search, officers knew that Bultmann and Robinson operated the Tor node out of their apartment.
As you said, they had done a thorough investigation in advance, which turned up the fact that the couple was running a TOR exit node. So, the question "how would they know there was a TOR exit node there?" is rather moot, given that the police did know the exit node was there (aside: TOR exit nodes are public info, easily searched online). As for the justification they provide for pursuing the application, despite knowing about the node:
"Knowing that [they are running a TOR exit node] doesn't automatically preclude the idea that the people running Tor are not also involved in child porn," Whitcomb told NPR. "It does offer a plausible alibi, but it's still something that we need to check out."
Ok, that's reasonable. A crime has been committed and it's their job to investigate it, which includes verifying alibis. I get that. But why hide the information from the judge? While it's the job of the police to investigate, they have boundaries they can't cross without permission, and it's the judge's job to determine if the police have provided a good enough justification for taking their investigation into someone's home. By failing to disclose known information that could potentially undermine their request, the police usurped the judge's ability to make an informed decision, meaning that this may have been an illegal search.
Regardless of how polite the detectives who knocked at 6am were, there is no such thing as a professionally conducted illegal search. The phrase itself is an oxymoron. This situation only "went down" because someone misled a judge, so it seems a bit disingenuous to suggest that "this went down just like it should", when the way it should have gone down is that they properly informed the judge of the relevant details. Had they done so, I'd have absolutely no complaint about the way that the rest of it shook out.
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Re:Standard tactics
The cops were investigating an upload from an IP address. Just like they looked up the ISP associated with that IP address, to obtain the address of the house to raid, they could and should have looked up whether that IP address was running a TOR exit node.
The cops don't like TOR because it causes false hits like this and costs time and money.
And that is enough reason to be suspicious of their motives for the raid.
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Re:Standard tactics
The cops were investigating an upload from an IP address. Just like they looked up the ISP associated with that IP address, to obtain the address of the house to raid, they could and should have looked up whether that IP address was running a TOR exit node.
The cops don't like TOR because it causes false hits like this and costs time and money.
And that is enough reason to be suspicious of their motives for the raid.
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Tor Weather EOL
"On first read (as a non-player of the game) the headline looked like a severe weather event had caused the server to go down (leading to the thought that this might help the game's owners find it if the routes to it were somehow hidden, as with Tor)."
Well... I'll just leave this here:
https://weather.torproject.org...
"Tor Weather
As of April 4, 2016, Tor Weather has been discontinued.
Tor Weather provided an email notification service to any user who wanted to monitor the status of a Tor node. Upon subscribing, they could specify what types of alerts they would like to receive. The main purpose of Tor Weather was to notify node operators via email if their node was down for longer than a specified period, but other notification types were available, including one where operators would be informed when their node was around long enough to qualify for a t-shirt.
The main reason for discontinuing Tor Weather is the fact that software requires maintenance, and Tor Weather is no exception. Tor Weather was promising t-shirts for relays that have not been around long enough or that provided too little bandwidth to be useful to the network, and it was almost impossible to deny a t-shirt after Tor Weather has promised it. Apart from that, Tor Weather was likely not offering t-shirts to people who have long earned it, thereby confusing them. An unreliable notification system is worse than not having a system at all. Relay operators shouldn't rely on Tor Weather to notify them when their relay fails. They should rather set up their own system instead.
We have tried to find a new maintainer for Tor Weather for years, but without success. We started rewriting Tor Weather using Onionoo as data back-end in 2014, and even though that project didn't produce working code, somebody could pick up this efforts and finish the rewrite. The Roster developers said that they're planning to include an email notification function in Roster. And we developed a simple Python script that provides information about a relay operator's eligibility for acquiring a t-shirt. None of these alternatives is a full replacement of Weather, though.
We encourage the community of Tor relay operators to step up to start their own notification systems and to share designs and code. Tor Weather is still a good idea, it just needs somebody to implement it.
Tor Weather is discontinued in two steps. For now, new subscriptions are disabled, new welcome messages are not sent out anymore, and existing subscriptions continue working until June 30, 2016. From July 1, 2016 on, Tor Weather will not be sending out any emails.
Sorry for any inconvenience caused by this."
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Re:Gee Fucking Whiz
The server would be using for these speech activities would generally be located in some western country in the offices of some ex-pat group from their country, except for where they're just using it to access mainstream international news.
But the whole point of TOR is that the server doesn't know who the real TOR user is. So your original statement "You already have to trust the remote server not to tattle to your government in that case." doesn't make any sense.
There is no conspiracy theory involved. This is all stuff you would find out if you went and looked it up
I didn't need to look it up because I already knew the origins of TOR. What you don't understand is that while it may have come out of the US government, it's a neutral protocol.
As for the technical details of where the logs are expected to be and where not, you didn't actually say anything other than "hurr durr ur wrong."
Then follow your own advice and look it up. This is basic info. But here, let me spoon feed you: https://www.torproject.org/abo...
"Instead of taking a direct route from source to destination, data packets on the Tor network take a random pathway through several relays that cover your tracks so no observer at any single point can tell where the data came from or where it's going."
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Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) +
Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) + Other Tor News
= Announcement
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...= Downloads
https://www.torproject.org/dow...##
Also, in Tor News:
Tor Messenger 0.1.0b5 is released
"We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger."
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3-hardened is released
"A new hardened Tor Browser release is available"
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3 is released
"A new alpha Tor Browser release is available"
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Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) +
Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) + Other Tor News
= Announcement
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...= Downloads
https://www.torproject.org/dow...##
Also, in Tor News:
Tor Messenger 0.1.0b5 is released
"We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger."
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3-hardened is released
"A new hardened Tor Browser release is available"
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3 is released
"A new alpha Tor Browser release is available"
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Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) +
Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) + Other Tor News
= Announcement
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...= Downloads
https://www.torproject.org/dow...##
Also, in Tor News:
Tor Messenger 0.1.0b5 is released
"We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger."
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3-hardened is released
"A new hardened Tor Browser release is available"
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3 is released
"A new alpha Tor Browser release is available"
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Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) +
Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) + Other Tor News
= Announcement
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...= Downloads
https://www.torproject.org/dow...##
Also, in Tor News:
Tor Messenger 0.1.0b5 is released
"We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger."
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3-hardened is released
"A new hardened Tor Browser release is available"
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3 is released
"A new alpha Tor Browser release is available"
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Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) +
Tor Browser 5.5.3 is released (Mar 8th, 2016) + Other Tor News
= Announcement
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...= Downloads
https://www.torproject.org/dow...##
Also, in Tor News:
Tor Messenger 0.1.0b5 is released
"We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger."
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3-hardened is released
"A new hardened Tor Browser release is available"
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...Tor Browser 6.0a3 is released
"A new alpha Tor Browser release is available"
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Tails Linux 2.2 is out (Mar 8th, 2016)
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Re:This is crazy...
They got around the Tor encryption by getting some JavaScript/Java/PHP code to run on the host PC and extract the IP address that way. Stack Overflow and a hundred other blogs will all explain how to do this within a standard webpage. No illegal downloading of executables, DLL's, shared object files or modification of kernel permissions. Just plain web page design:
http://javascript.about.com/li...
The whole Tor project would be a little bit pointless if deanonymizing the users was a simple matter of "plain web design".
All the server side reliant methods of accessing the user's IP address with JavaScript listed in your link are irrelevant to the discussion here: If the user's IP address is known on the server side and you control the server, why on earth would you bother with client side JavaScript when you could just look at server logs? Of course, in a situation where the user does not connect to the server directly the server side methods only give you the IP address of the last proxy in the proxy chain. Onion sites can only be accessed through Tor, no direct connections are possible.
This leaves the JavaScript and Java method. The problem here is that the Firefox based Tor Browser (used by almost every Tor user) does not, for obvious reasons, include the Java plugin.
So how did the FBI do it then? I'm not aware of the specifics of this case but in the past they have used zero day vulnerabilities in Firefox JavaScript handling to run malicious "phone home" shell code on the client machines. Most anonymous web surfing guides since the 90's have advised strong anonymity seeking users to always keep their JavaScript disabled, though as the advisory for the 2013 exploit notes, many big attack vectors besides JavaScript remain, such as css, svg, xml, the renderer etc...
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Re:Use a VPN
I think you should read this: https://www.torproject.org/doc...
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Year-End Giving
The Tor Project is a tax-deductable 501(c)(3) for US taxpayers. They have several ways to donate.
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Re:Downloading through TOR
He's saying that torrent traffic ain't desirable oven Tor. I think the usual reason is the bandwidth needs, but this blog post enumerates other reasons:
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
Using Tor for less bandwidth intensive things is cool though.
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Re:Hmmm...
There's no warning that a certificate doesn't match a domain, no "verified domains" concept to make your browser turn green up in the address bar and make you all happy.
As of 25 Oct. 2015, this is no longer true.
"Our internet standard reflects on considerations for handling
Your statement however was correct when Operation Onymous was active last year.
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TOR Snail Mail anyone...
Is the 'instant chat' slower than TOR Snail Mail? https://lists.torproject.org/p...
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Re:How did Google discover this?
FWIW, the EFF's HTTPS Everywhere can be configured to send all the certificates your Firefox browser sees to their SSL Observatory and has the option to make the submission over Tor if you choose.
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Tor Project Writeup on Deterministic builds
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Tor Project Writeup on Deterministic builds
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Tor-enabled Debian mirrors
"Richard Hartmann, Peter Palfrader, and Jonathan McDowell have set up the first official onion service mirrors[1] of the Debian operating system's software package infrastructure. This means that it is now possible to update your Debian system without the update information or downloaded packages leaving the Tor network at all, preventing a network adversary from discovering information about your system. A follow-up post[2] by Richard includes guidance on using apt-transport-tor[3] with the new mirrors.
These services are only the first in what should hopefully become a fully Tor-enabled system mirroring "the complete package lifecycle, package information, and the website". "This service is not redundant, it uses a key which is stored on the local drive, the
[1] http://richardhartmann.de/blog...
[2] http://richardhartmann.de/blog...
[3] https://retout.co.uk/blog/2014... -
Tor-enabled Debian mirrors
"Richard Hartmann, Peter Palfrader, and Jonathan McDowell have set up the first official onion service mirrors[1] of the Debian operating system's software package infrastructure. This means that it is now possible to update your Debian system without the update information or downloaded packages leaving the Tor network at all, preventing a network adversary from discovering information about your system. A follow-up post[2] by Richard includes guidance on using apt-transport-tor[3] with the new mirrors.
These services are only the first in what should hopefully become a fully Tor-enabled system mirroring "the complete package lifecycle, package information, and the website". "This service is not redundant, it uses a key which is stored on the local drive, the
[1] http://richardhartmann.de/blog...
[2] http://richardhartmann.de/blog...
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TAILS Linux 1.5 is out (Aug 11, 2015)
# Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity.
It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship almost
anywhere you go and on any computer but leaving no trace unless you ask it to
explicitly.# It is a complete operating system designed to be used from a DVD, USB stick, or SD
card independently of the computer's original operating system. It is Free Software
and based on Debian GNU/Linux.# Tails comes with several built-in applications pre-configured with security in
mind: web browser, instant messaging client, email client, office suite, image and
sound editor, etc. - https://tails.boum.org/about/i...# Tails, The Amnesic Incognito Live System, version 1.5, is out.
= Announcements:
https://tails.boum.org/news/ve...
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
https://mailman.boum.org/piper...
https://twitter.com/Tails_live...
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid...= Tails Site:
https://tails.boum.org/= Download:
https://tails.boum.org/downloa... -
TAILS Linux 1.5 is out (Aug 11, 2015)
# Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity.
It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship almost
anywhere you go and on any computer but leaving no trace unless you ask it to
explicitly.# It is a complete operating system designed to be used from a DVD, USB stick, or SD
card independently of the computer's original operating system. It is Free Software
and based on Debian GNU/Linux.# Tails comes with several built-in applications pre-configured with security in
mind: web browser, instant messaging client, email client, office suite, image and
sound editor, etc. - https://tails.boum.org/about/i...# Tails, The Amnesic Incognito Live System, version 1.5, is out.
= Announcements:
https://tails.boum.org/news/ve...
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
https://mailman.boum.org/piper...
https://twitter.com/Tails_live...
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid...= Tails Site:
https://tails.boum.org/= Download:
https://tails.boum.org/downloa... -
TAILS Linux 1.5 is out (Aug 11, 2015)
# Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity.
It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship almost
anywhere you go and on any computer but leaving no trace unless you ask it to
explicitly.# It is a complete operating system designed to be used from a DVD, USB stick, or SD
card independently of the computer's original operating system. It is Free Software
and based on Debian GNU/Linux.# Tails comes with several built-in applications pre-configured with security in
mind: web browser, instant messaging client, email client, office suite, image and
sound editor, etc. - https://tails.boum.org/about/i...# Tails, The Amnesic Incognito Live System, version 1.5, is out.
= Announcements:
https://tails.boum.org/news/ve...
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
https://mailman.boum.org/piper...
https://twitter.com/Tails_live...
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid...= Tails Site:
https://tails.boum.org/= Download:
https://tails.boum.org/downloa... -
TAILS Linux 1.5 is out (Aug 11, 2015)
# Tails is a live system that aims to preserve your privacy and anonymity.
It helps you to use the Internet anonymously and circumvent censorship almost
anywhere you go and on any computer but leaving no trace unless you ask it to
explicitly.# It is a complete operating system designed to be used from a DVD, USB stick, or SD
card independently of the computer's original operating system. It is Free Software
and based on Debian GNU/Linux.# Tails comes with several built-in applications pre-configured with security in
mind: web browser, instant messaging client, email client, office suite, image and
sound editor, etc. - https://tails.boum.org/about/i...# Tails, The Amnesic Incognito Live System, version 1.5, is out.
= Announcements:
https://tails.boum.org/news/ve...
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
https://mailman.boum.org/piper...
https://twitter.com/Tails_live...
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid...= Tails Site:
https://tails.boum.org/= Download:
https://tails.boum.org/downloa... -
Re:Okay...
Don't torrent over Tor
Torrent file-sharing applications have been observed to ignore proxy settings and make direct connections even when they are told to use Tor. Even if your torrent application connects only through Tor, you will often send out your real IP address in the tracker GET request, because that's how torrents work. Not only do you deanonymize your torrent traffic and your other simultaneous Tor web traffic this way, you also slow down the entire Tor network for everyone else.
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Re:Okay...
I just torrent over Tor.
many exit nodes block torrent traffic and the tor project itself says it may not be safe to torrent over tor
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Re:A service to the community: release the text
Including plenty of boilerplate.
Tor Abuse Templates
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Re:A service to the community: release the text
The Tor Project provides plenty of sound advice for folks running Tor relay and exit nodes.
The Legal FAQ for Tor Relay Operators.
https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.enTips for Running an Exit Node with Minimal Harassment
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment -
Re:A service to the community: release the text
The Tor Project provides plenty of sound advice for folks running Tor relay and exit nodes.
The Legal FAQ for Tor Relay Operators.
https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.enTips for Running an Exit Node with Minimal Harassment
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment -
Re:A service to the community: release the text
The Tor Project provides plenty of sound advice for folks running Tor relay and exit nodes.
The Legal FAQ for Tor Relay Operators.
https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-legal-faq.html.enTips for Running an Exit Node with Minimal Harassment
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Tor project Board of Directors
"Caspar Bowden
Director
An independent advocate for information self-determination rights, and public understanding of privacy research in computer science. He is a specialist in data protection policy, EU and US surveillance law, PET research, identity management, and information ethics and philosophy. "
Tor project Board of Directors @
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Re:Tor's trust model has always been broken
>You know the garbled names that
The "garbled names thatAs for using a DHT, this is what Tor currently does. You can't do away with the directory servers. What you seem to be proposing is to make *everyone* a directory server. This is not necessarily a good idea, the attack just goes from "publicly bruteforce the next best key" to "silently perform a sybil attack", which is not particularly better.
We know how to authenticate people, we already use ECDHE for key exchange, that's not an issue. The problem is building a distributed database where some people can set a record, everyone can query a record, but nobody can enumerate all the records.
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Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-NSA/Google
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through.
$$$
Read Their Privacy Policy:
https://disconnect.me/privacyDisgusting.
"I love how they "never collect your Personal Info, except when they do" and "never share your Personal Info (the one they didn't collect, remember?), except when they do""
$$$
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
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Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-NSA/Google
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through.
$$$
Read Their Privacy Policy:
https://disconnect.me/privacyDisgusting.
"I love how they "never collect your Personal Info, except when they do" and "never share your Personal Info (the one they didn't collect, remember?), except when they do""
$$$
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
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Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-NSA/Google..
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through.
$$$
Read Their Privacy Policy:
https://disconnect.me/privacyDisgusting.
"I love how they "never collect your Personal Info, except when they do" and "never share your Personal Info (the one they didn't collect, remember?), except when they do""
$$$
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
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Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-NSA/Google..
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through.
$$$
Read Their Privacy Policy:
https://disconnect.me/privacyDisgusting.
"I love how they "never collect your Personal Info, except when they do" and "never share your Personal Info (the one they didn't collect, remember?), except when they do""
$$$
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
-
Ex-Google And Ex-NSA? Welcome to Tor.
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through.
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
-
Ex-Google And Ex-NSA? Welcome to Tor.
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through.
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
-
Tor's New Search Provider
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through. Be sure to read the site's PRIVACY POLICY -- what a joke!
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
-
Tor's New Search Provider
Tor's New Search Provider Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers
$$$
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
^ https://blog.torproject.org/#S..."New Search Provider[1]
Our default search provider has also been changed to Disconnect. Disconnect provides private Google search results to Tor users without Captchas or bans."
[1] https://search.disconnect.me/
$$$
"Disconnect Search, Built By Ex-Google And Ex-NSA Engineers, Lets You Use Google, Bing And Yahoo Without Tracking"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/...
FTA:
"notes Patrick Jackson, the ex-NSA engineer who is now CTO of Disconnect"
Yeah.. sounds like a good choice for a default TBB Search Engine... NOT!
$$$
-- On April 28th, 2015 Anonymous said:
"What prompted the change in search engine? Are we now getting paid to include disconnect as the default search engine?"
-- On April 28th, 2015 gk said:
"We don't get paid for that as it currently stands. But Startpage was not happy with our traffic and showed sometimes CAPTCHAs. Disconnect on the other hand approached us with respect to search engine traffic and donated some money."
Donated some money? Hahahahahhaaha. I wonder WHY they approached Torproject? You don't get paid for that CURRENTLY? Nice wording! But there was a DONATION, rrrriiiiight? I can't wait for future news! Please do let us know if and when you start collecting further $$ from the source.
I am insulted. I will continue to use Startpage's free web proxy service in TBB, and DuckDuckGo's
http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/
So what's next, Torproject? Keystroke logging for Amazon or another company? Partnering with Recorded Future or something like it? Is this what the project has come to now? But that "Disconnect" Search Engine site is so pretty. So nice and clean, WOW! It sort of reminds me of the polished DoD sites I have wandered through. Be sure to read the site's PRIVACY POLICY -- what a joke!
With this new "Search Engine", I feel like a rug is being pulled out from underneath me and damn it "that rug really tied the room together."
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Re:So.....
Yes, This is pretty much press bloat. Improving hidden services has been a long time goal of them, read their blog. This is just a press release that they've got funding, and actually started working on that.
There are multiple problems with hidden services, for example you can't delegate your domain, meaning that you can't keep a root key containing your master keys offline, and have a VPS or similar server (which you don't trust) run the onion page.
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Re:Anonymous Overlay Networks
Basically, set up two VMs, the first only gets networking through the second, and the second is configured to run everything through TOR and TOR alone.
Now this has been made easy and "done for us" so to speak (but always, ymmv, everything has bugs, security is a mindset, etc etc etc):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...From the whonix homepage: "Whonix is an operating system focused on anonymity, privacy and security. It's based on the Tor anonymity network[1], Debian GNU/Linux[2] and security by isolation. DNS leaks are impossible, and not even malware with root privileges can find out the user's real IP. "
https://www.whonix.org/For latest developments, here is where it's at:
https://www.whonix.org/blog/ma...
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qu...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q...PS, some current "wisdom" (but check out the cutting edge above, which also more generic solutions):
https://blog.torproject.org/bl...
https://torrentfreak.com/tribl...
http://torguard.net/howtodownl...
http://www.tribler.org/
http://tor.stackexchange.com/q...
https://wiki.vuze.com/w/Tor_Ho...
http://www.howtogeek.com/76801...Seriously, we live in abundance - enjoy