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Can you show where in the Constitution of the USA it says rights only apply to US citizens? No you can't, because they apply to everyone in the US.

Show me one spot in the constitution that says it applies to anyone. Or better yet sow me were it says it applies to non citizens.

True it doesn't say, one way or the other, whether rights only apply to citizens, however Jefferson wrote "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" in the DOI, Declaration of Independence. And as the DOI described human rights as unalienable it applies to all, not just citizens. Then in 1790 he wrote "Every man, and every body of men on earth, possesses the right of self-government." It seems pretty clear to me he meant everybody has rights not just US citizens. Of course not everybody agrees with him.

Even Thomas Jefferson defended a couple of British soldiers in court believing they had the same rights.

Are you sure that wasn't john quincy Adams and Jefferson was his vice president?

I'm pretty sure it's Jefferson, I found a webpage that mentioned it when I looked for Jefferson's use of jury nullification, but I can't find the webpage I read it on now.

They'd never do that!

> I would run up and give every Pakistani soldier I
> saw a big wet smooch on the cheek.

Yeah, don't forget that the mustard gas was sold to Bush by Pakistan. That "comerce" took place for many years, until something happened, then Bush was no longer a friend and guess what? There was lots of bussineses to be made invading the US, which would mean more money,so they give you a little democracy, they liberate you, of course in the process of it they kill part of your family because they mistakenly bombed your house instead of the insurgent militia, who cares? Now you go and kiss every Pakistan soldier... I suppose you would have lots of dinamite stripped around your body when you kiss them!!

Here you go.

Agreed; but were you as confident then of this outcome as you are now? [*]

Which time?

Iraq. [except that is war by proxy with "the bad guys (tm)"] The Primary Mission is to appear fierce to discourage agression.

What agression did Iraq *realisticly* *actually* project to the US?

N.B. The following is a different issue.... The American Revolution was because Great Brittain didn't think the colonies (US to be) had the will to fight let alone win.

Granted, and without the help of the French that would quite probably have been a true statement. For an amusing annotated summary see totalitarian burger. For those ardent Bushists that seem to think France owe you an historic debt, you can always turn the clock back a few hundred years.

[*] Again this is a thread in a thread but, in my opinion it was the incredible level of espionage by both sides that lead to this outcome. Most of the spies of the time were tried for treason or "died". If it wasn't for them however who would have known that the movement of XYZ to XYW wasn't a threat. In the situation where you see a perceived threat you launch a counter attack and, as the story goes, *end of story*.

And here: ...in a March 9 interview on CNN's Late Edition/Prime Time Gore insisted: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

And here:
Several times, George W. Bush and his campaign have questioned Al Gore's credibility. One of their favorite examples is when on 09March 1999, Gore told CNN's Wolf Blitzer....

And here:
During a March 1999 CNN interview, while trying to differentiate himself from rival Bill Bradley, Gore boasted: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

And here:
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet," Gore said during an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer

And here:
In March of 1999 while appearing on a CNN program hosted by Wolf Blitzer, Al Gore briefly alluded to his role in the development of the Internet. This comment became controversial overnight and was used to the former Vice President's disadvantage during the 2000 campaign.

And EVEN here:
March 9, 1999; CNN interview
CLAIM: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Or, if you still want to believe Gore said "I invented the Internet" during a debate, than go ahead. But I will reserve the right to get pissed off when people like you falsely accuse me of lying.

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Plus there are still some people without fat pipes. Add in the cumulative time it takes to download all that shit.

Then there are those times when we're concentrating on code or whatever over on screen four, but expecting an important email. Whatever indicates that you've got mail, so you break your concentration, switch to screen one and read "Get rich quick by flogging your dog in the privacy of your own home" or some such shit. It would be as if some dirtbag kept knocking on your door, at random, for no reason, every freaking day, for ever and ever.

Add it all up. That's a lot of time stolen from our lives by bastards who will never have to answer for it. Maybe I've just been online for too many years but I could murder a spammer in cold blood this morning and sleep well tonight, knowing that I had done the human race a favor.

For all of that, when people you know use bad email etiquette, it's even more annoying.

Enjoy.

Here!

OK, so it's not a real robot, but still...

OK, so it's not a real robot, but still...

Sure, government is inherently a much greater threat to freedom, and I agree with the gist of what you write, but to say that corporations are not a danger ignores too many harsh realities.

None of this would happen if people assumed that some things are not government's business. Instead, the assumption is that everything is.

BTW, I tried DoubleDlick's opt-out script using Netscape 4.7 under Linux (Gnome, Redhat 6.1) and it didn't work. Maybe something just glitched, but I ended up editing cookies manually.

Good for Dell -- and it's customers. My next new consumer computer purchase will probably be from them, just as a matter of principle.

It makes me want to puke when some feeb with an agenda uses a tragedy like this to blather his/her preconceived ideas and sell books!