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My two favorite words that have saved me so much $$$$ over the years are: Valentine One.

I would be more concerned with the legality of MPH Industries' radar POP mode. In summary, the company is marketing radar guns with a mode that allows officers to obtain speed readings that are at best, inaccurate. Of course, the only place a warning about the inaccuracy of this mode is found, is in the radar's instruction manual. How many police officers do you think read the instruction manuals that accompany their equipment? Reports of people "getting POPped" have shown up in WV, OH, GA, NV, NJ, and NY.

"POP is mode that emits a very brief (67 millisecond) pulse of radar to determine the speed. Its meant to defeat radar detectors. It works because the local oscillator sweep (the "tuner") in most detectors, (especially cheap ones) is too slow to notice this brief pulse. Newer and more expensive detectors have solved this by making a little detour during the sweep to check for POP. It's like flipping through the channels on your TV, but going back to check if your favourite show has started on channel 2 every so often. Except in a radar detector this is happening hundreds of times per second.

POP can be inaccurate because the electronics in the police radar don't have time enough to stabilize. It's like suddenly jumping on your bathroom scale. The pointer with fluctuate violently until it settles down on the the true reading. With POP it can sometimes indicate an inaccurate speed due to this instability. "

I would be more concerned with the legality of MPH Industries' radar POP mode. In summary, the company is marketing radar guns with a mode that allows officers to obtain speed readings that are at best, inaccurate. Of course, the only place a warning about the inaccuracy of this mode is found, is in the radar's instruction manual. How many police officers do you think read the instruction manuals that accompany their equipment? Reports of people "getting POPped" have shown up in WV, OH, GA, NV, NJ, and NY.

"POP is mode that emits a very brief (67 millisecond) pulse of radar to determine the speed. Its meant to defeat radar detectors. It works because the local oscillator sweep (the "tuner") in most detectors, (especially cheap ones) is too slow to notice this brief pulse. Newer and more expensive detectors have solved this by making a little detour during the sweep to check for POP. It's like flipping through the channels on your TV, but going back to check if your favourite show has started on channel 2 every so often. Except in a radar detector this is happening hundreds of times per second.

POP can be inaccurate because the electronics in the police radar don't have time enough to stabilize. It's like suddenly jumping on your bathroom scale. The pointer with fluctuate violently until it settles down on the the true reading. With POP it can sometimes indicate an inaccurate speed due to this instability. "

"What is the benefit of LIDAR? Is it more accurate, or just easier to 'aim'? "

It doesn't usually set off your radar detector as quickly...so, easier to catch motorists with those...and generate revenue off of them too.

My Valentine One is supposed to be one of the best at radar and laser detection, but, down here where I live in southern LA, I haven't really ever seen laser by the cops, I guess they don't have the money down here for that, hell, I still see a LOT of Xband radar used by the cops in the city here in New Orleans.

Up here in Greater Cincinnati, I haven't seen X band used in over 10 years, I actually disabled it in city mode on my Escort. Laser on the other hand is all you see on the highways around here, rarely do you ever see K band shot on the highway.

It doesn't usually set off your radar detector as quickly...so, easier to catch motorists with those...and generate revenue off of them too.

My Valentine One is supposed to be one of the best at radar and laser detection, but, down here where I live in southern LA, I haven't really ever seen laser by the cops, I guess they don't have the money down here for that, hell, I still see a LOT of Xband radar used by the cops in the city here in New Orleans.

Radar Detector ...

That's below the 10.5-10.55GHz range (http://www.valentine1.com/moreinfo/pdf/specs_pg31.pdf) of x-band radar so it probably won't set off some detectors. Besides, they don't use x-band in California anymore so I have it turned off on my Escort 8500 as it exhibits the most false positives.

They only detect the cheap radar detectors. There has been an electronic warfare in the civilian world with radar detectors (RDs) and radar detector detectors (RDDs). Moderate priced RDs have had RDD detection capability for awhile and will go into a stealth mode, temporarily disabling their main oscillator.

And of course, you have the professional level such as the Beltronics STi Driver or the Valentine 1 which have been hardened to prevent RF emissions detected by RDDs...

Hell...I've been driving that way WAY before they ever came out with racing video games....that's the fun of having a 2 seat sports car, or muscle cars with powerful engines.

I'd dare say the radar detector is more of a driving force than the video game. I don't even look at the speedometer till I hear the Valentine One go off....

There is a radar detector made by the Valentine One Company http://www.valentine1.com/ that tells you via an LED what kind of signal it's detecting AND from what general direction the signal is coming from: front, back, or sides. Wouldn't it be cool to have the Canary Wireless device do the same, so to indicate which coffee shop/restaurant has the signal so I can sit there, drink my java and work?

The city around here got creative and installed radar to determine if someone's approaching a light. On almost every light in town. That shiny radar detector is now completely useless in town...

Mine does...all bands and laser, forwards and backwards. Valentine One However, I must admit, I've yet to live anywhere where they really have laser. Not many places in the south have it...and NOLA, heck, the cops here still predominately use X band...really old stuff, can pick them up a couple miles away...

the police will have to use a spectrometer to measure my speed. I'll be driving my "get out of jail free" car until the sonic booms shake it apart.

I have modpoints, but merely modding this as +1 Funny simply doesn't do it justice.

That line is an absolute gem! Consider it stolen. :)

Keep up the good work, and buy one of these while you're at it, just in case the next patrolman bothers to look up while writing the ticket and notices you're not in an Edsel. They're worth every cent. Don't settle for ANYTHING less.

The only reason you claim you're going to switch to Verizon is [...] because you feel you have a lower chance of being held accountable for your illegal activites.

sounds perfectly rational to me. Do you know anyone with a radar detector? These guys make a pretty good one. It helps people like you and me lower their chances of being held accountable for illegal activities (i.e. speeding). Do you ever speed? Have you ever been caught? Did the ticket encourage you not to speed, or did it just inconvenience you without causing you to change your behavior? People who buy radar detectors are making a rational choice: they PLAN to keep speeding (i.e. breaking the law), and want to mitigate the risk of being inconvenienced by a stupid law... which is essentially the position the poster is in. If you live in a state where radar detectors are legal, and you don't have a radar detector, yet you continue to speed, you're demonstrating your own inability to behave in a rational manner.

Or consider these guys, who make a product you can use to do the same thing- lower the chances that you can be held accountable for an illegal act. I will grant you that running a red light is somehow "more wrong" than speeding. Does this fact make the flashblocker spray "more good" or "more bad" than a radar detector?

Or these guys. They're about one step short of the folks in Berkeley where I live... for a couple of years there was an underground movement to chop the heads off any new parking meters that the city erected, and to jam or disable the meters that couldn't be physically removed. Notice a trend here?

no? Let me spell it out for you then: People don't like to obey laws, especially laws that put arbitrary limits on what they can do with their own property. In other words, if my car can go 120 MPH, I should be able to drive 120 MPH, and fuck the law for telling me that I can't. (Instead of chasing speeders, cops could bust people for driving 67 MPH in the left lane, or talking on the cell phone while driving, or passing on the right, or failing to move over when a faster vehicle comes up from behind...)

Companies that defend their customers' abilities to do what they want are rewarded by those customers in the marketplace. I guess techology is less mature than automobiles, but as the internet develops over the next 10 years, I think we're going to see a lot more radar detectors than speeding tickets.

X, K, Ka... it will cause my V1 to go nuts.. and if it interferes with police radar guns it might prompt then to switch to Lidar guns that much quicker... and you typically don't get enough warning because of the narrow beam.

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However, he's probably OK when reporting about police radars, not about consumer detectors, however!

He's definitely got a burr in his saddle over the Valentine1 unit and there's more info here.

Is this slated for use in car windshields? If so, I wonder how this will affect the detection range of radar detectors.

A few years ago, there was a study of cars with windshields that use certain tinting and weatherproofing that (incadently) reduces the efficency of radar detectors, cutting detection range from 60-80%. There's some info on it here, and a bit more info here.

--Turkey

Is this slated for use in car windshields? If so, I wonder how this will affect the detection range of radar detectors.

A few years ago, there was a study of cars with windshields that use certain tinting and weatherproofing that (incadently) reduces the efficency of radar detectors, cutting detection range from 60-80%. There's some info on it here, and a bit more info here.

--Turkey