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As a Swede and thinking about vikings but also our technologically good current military ships even though we kinda make none I kinda wanted to say they could order them from us / let us build them, and then suggest they could take some kebabs in return.

However now I see the "the ship doesn't even float right" and we've had that problem too, sadly:
https://www.vasamuseet.se/en

have a trip to Stockholm on the agenda. If you've got any suggestions for things to do

I've checked what people think about the various capitals (more Oslo, Stockholm, Copenhagen rather than Helsinki) and where one should go (I was more curious about living than visiting but whatever.)

For Stockholm I think what is mentioned is Skansen, Gamla stan and the Gustav Vasa museum.
http://www.vasamuseet.se/en/
http://www.old-town-stockholm....
http://www.skansen.se/en/kateg...

Whatever it would be my picks I don't know.

I haven't been to many museums. I've been at both Skansen and Vasa but I don't remember much from it and I don't really see what's so interesting with an old wooden ship =P.

Sometimes museums has had free entry here in Sweden depending on who's in charge of the government so if that's the case I guess that's a nice opportunity to go visit some :)

I can understand the idea of visiting places for education (maybe more so for kids? If you got any there's places like Tom Tits Experiment which may be worth a visit too, likely more so! ;D http://www.tomtit.se/english/I...) and culture & history too even though here in Sweden for whatever reason the in fashion thing is to deny it / act like it doesn't matter but I assume most of the world don't and think it's interesting.

I know while I think the middle-east would be the least place on the planet I wanted to live in and possibly visit too .. (maybe along with parts of Africa though stunning scenery may be nice) what would be of some interest there and in Egypt is exactly the things IS want to destroy and remove because they don't like different cultures either / want no traces of them / want no-one to care.

This is so fucking nasty and obviously ruin things forever:
https://gatesofnineveh.wordpre...

The few things worth bothering about ..

Anyway, not a Museum guy. In Sweden I would rather want to travel some rural road either just with agriculture landscape and vast views or through and wooden avenue or places where animals has grassed on the sides or something such. Or venture out on any lake or in the case of Stockholm the archipelago.
(Or I guess for some others maybe up in the northern mountain regions, if you where long up north maybe visit Boden and http://www.rodbergsfortet.com/... ?), possibly Gotland and Visby.

In Norway people would take about the fjords and hiking in the mountains there too, in Denmark you've likely got the same agriculture landscape and Bornholm & Hammershus to visit instead for instance.

On the lake side we've got lots of lakes and Vänern is the largest lake in EU and our biggest, Mälaren which sit left of Stockholm is our third largest but it's also large ..

If one wasn't in Stockholm I guess there's lots too see at various places. Anyway, I don't know what's best. And it's likely ok to not visit anything beyond just being in the city considering there's so much water IN the city too =P, so at least there's all that to take in regardless :)

Enjoy your stay :)

Stockholm already have an old (17th century) warship near the harbour. Look at the Vasa museum.

But other alternatives in the area, while not being of the right period, are at least afloat, and any pirate worth his salt wouldn't be too bothered by the difference.

Stockholm already have an old (17th century) warship near the harbour. Look at the Vasa museum.

Here's some extra info about Vasa, to my knowledge the only big failure that has a own museum. The king, Gustav Vasa was such a show off that he wanted not only the most and biggest cannons, but also the most gold on a ship. A small windblow turned it over before it left Stockholm.

http://www.vasamuseet.se/Vasamuseet/Vasamuseet.asp x?path=%2Fhome%2Fvasamuseet%2Fom&layout={C0D465E0- 3110-436A-A0E4-EA5BB84475B8}

The original design of the Vasa was perverted by the late addition of an extra gun deck, which made the vessel taller and therefore unstable. The extra deck was added on direct orders from the King, who obviously knew more about the value of firepower than about ship design. The records show that the head designer wasn't punished when the ship was lost. If the blame had been his, he would likely had suffered mightily for his mistake. The museum is indeed one of the best I've ever visited. Highly recommended.

"Why did the Vasa sink?

In the 17th century there were no scientific methods of calculating a
ship's stability. It was not uncommon that warships heeled over and
sank. Their cargo - the guns - were placed relatively high up in the
ship, whereas merchant-vessels stored their cargo in the hold, ie in
the bottom of the ship." ...
"However, the reckonings used in building the Vasa were intended for
smaller ships with only one gundeck. The Vasa was built differently.
She had two gundecks with heavy artillery (when the norm was to
place lighter guns on the upper gundeck). The standard rules
obviously did not apply here.

Deep down in the Vasa several tons of stone were stored as ballast.
They were meant to give the ship stability. However, the main reason
for the Vasa capsizing was that the ballast was not enough as
counterweight to the guns, the upper hull, masts and sails of the ship.
In the inquiries after the Vasa disaster it was revealed that a stability
test had been performed prior to the maiden voyage."..." Present
was Admiral Klas Fleming, one of the most influential men in the
Navy. His only comment to the failed stability test was "If only His
Majesty were at home!" After that he let the Vasa make her maiden
voyage."
- http://www.vasamuseet.se/Vasamuseet/Om/Skeppet/Dar for%20sjonk%20Vasa.aspx?lang=en

Lots of reasons for the sinking, but I wouldnt classify it as an engineering failure. Purely due to the non-existence of the engineering discipline. These people were craftsmen, granted, but they were not engineers in the current sense of the word

And as for order of magnitude of the disaster:
"Of the 150 people on board, 30-50 died in the disaster." - http://www.vasamuseet.se/Vasamuseet/Om/Skeppet/For lisningen.aspx?lang=en

I cant find anything on the cost, but lets assume it is considerable. However the swedish are now making money from the museum. Its a give/take situation there I think. Similar to the mad king Ludwig II building this: http://www.neuschwanstein.de/english/index.htm and this: http://www.schlosslinderhof.de/englisch/palace/his tory.htm Which bankrupted the area then, but now provide enormous revenue to the area.

King Ludwig: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II_of_Bavaria# His_buildings

"Why did the Vasa sink?

In the 17th century there were no scientific methods of calculating a
ship's stability. It was not uncommon that warships heeled over and
sank. Their cargo - the guns - were placed relatively high up in the
ship, whereas merchant-vessels stored their cargo in the hold, ie in
the bottom of the ship." ...
"However, the reckonings used in building the Vasa were intended for
smaller ships with only one gundeck. The Vasa was built differently.
She had two gundecks with heavy artillery (when the norm was to
place lighter guns on the upper gundeck). The standard rules
obviously did not apply here.

Deep down in the Vasa several tons of stone were stored as ballast.
They were meant to give the ship stability. However, the main reason
for the Vasa capsizing was that the ballast was not enough as
counterweight to the guns, the upper hull, masts and sails of the ship.
In the inquiries after the Vasa disaster it was revealed that a stability
test had been performed prior to the maiden voyage."..." Present
was Admiral Klas Fleming, one of the most influential men in the
Navy. His only comment to the failed stability test was "If only His
Majesty were at home!" After that he let the Vasa make her maiden
voyage."
- http://www.vasamuseet.se/Vasamuseet/Om/Skeppet/Dar for%20sjonk%20Vasa.aspx?lang=en

Lots of reasons for the sinking, but I wouldnt classify it as an engineering failure. Purely due to the non-existence of the engineering discipline. These people were craftsmen, granted, but they were not engineers in the current sense of the word

And as for order of magnitude of the disaster:
"Of the 150 people on board, 30-50 died in the disaster." - http://www.vasamuseet.se/Vasamuseet/Om/Skeppet/For lisningen.aspx?lang=en

I cant find anything on the cost, but lets assume it is considerable. However the swedish are now making money from the museum. Its a give/take situation there I think. Similar to the mad king Ludwig II building this: http://www.neuschwanstein.de/english/index.htm and this: http://www.schlosslinderhof.de/englisch/palace/his tory.htm Which bankrupted the area then, but now provide enormous revenue to the area.

King Ludwig: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II_of_Bavaria# His_buildings

The museum has a neat website.

Here's a link to the museum. They have some information on the ship and a few photos.

Actually, it's more like I will build an uberlarge ship to blow you to smithereens, but it will be too top-heavy and sink.

Then I will raise it up, put it in a museum, and call it the pride of the Swedish fleet.

It's true!

Raising the ships was difficult. Preserving the ships after they were raised has been a major effort (costing a small fortune) and requiring many thousands of man hours. It is wonderful that the wrecks were raised, but I don't think either the UK or Sweden could have coped with more than one every ten years or so.

Steel and iron ships are actually harder than wood to raise once they are over a certain page where the hull is substantially oxidised and what you end up with is almost impossible to treat (iron oxide crumbles).

The 333 year old Vasa is a warship that was raised from oxygen-depleted water off the coast of Sweden. Inside, they found all sorts of preserved treasures, and it's now a museum that you can visit in Stockholm. (I was there last year and was very impressed with the thing. It's huge and has very ornate carvings all over the outside.)

See what may be the oldest, tangible example of failure in successful engineering: the Vasa museum in Sweden.

Visiting the Vasa remains one of my favorite things to do in one of the greatest cities in the world. And you'd better check it out soon, it's found to be deteriorating quickly.

Speaking of deterioration, now is the time to visit Venice. Venice is sinking and is not to be missed! It truly is a marvel of ingenuity and beauty.

See what may be the oldest, tangible example of failure in successful engineering: the Vasa museum in Sweden.

Visiting the Vasa remains one of my favorite things to do in one of the greatest cities in the world. And you'd better check it out soon, it's found to be deteriorating quickly.

Speaking of deterioration, now is the time to visit Venice. Venice is sinking and is not to be missed! It truly is a marvel of ingenuity and beauty.

and now makes for a good museum in Stockholm, where you can learn the history and see the warship Vasa.

It's now a massive visitor attraction. However, that's not without its own unfortunate side effects: I heard a report a few week back on the BBC that the wood is now rotting again in places due to the humidy in the air from the visitors' breath, perspiration, damp outer clothes on rainy days, etc.

More information at the Vasa Museum .

We have the ship in a large museum here in Stockholm, it's on the web too.

http://www.vasamuseet.se/indexeng.html