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Re:Oh well
As a modern internet hybrid--part-geek and part-fandom nut, I can see where you're coming from with that comment, but I dislike the tone. What livejournal is to fandom now is what emailing lists were to fandom five years ago. And before emailing lists, there were fanzines and snail mail and conventions.
Livejournal became especially popular after http://www.fanfiction.net/ cleaned out their database and tossed out all the NC-17 fics. Livejournal is a weird mixture of archive sites such as http://www.fanfiction.net/and http://www.adultfanfiction.net/, and http://www.yahoogroups.com/.
And it works for those ficwriters that don't want their stuff archived all over the place.
Livejournal poses as an archive site--like ff.net and its predecessors--the various FTP sites that hosted fanfic prior to around 1995. When fandom communities and private users accounts are suspended and deleted, some of that fic may have disappeared completely as well. If it were just discussions like the teenybopper junk on myspace, then I would no problem canceling my account. I have my own blog (wordpress) on my own paid webspace...but I still pay yearly for my livejournal account.
That being said, as a paid user, I will be contemplating a move as well. Although, I will most likely follow my fandoms (which are Buffy, Angel and Harry Potter).
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uh, hatemongering?You consider a state-run health care program automatic proof of "socialism"?
By your definition, every other country in the industrialized world is "socialist".
He's also the closest thing to an anti-gun control candidate the Democratic Party has produced at the national level since JFK and Hubert Humphrey.
I suggest taking a closer look at his positions. His Website contains several of them.
As for hate-mongering, the left (of which I actually am not a member, speaking as a supporter of vouchers) isn't the group that automatically equates any criticism of Bush to treason. Note that my politics is based on pragmatism, NOT ideology... I pull from right, left, center, or Libertarian based on what makes sense. But I consider the right a fuck of a lot more dangerous, Ashcroft is NOT a Democrat.
I do have a suggestion to you, since you may be one of the few on either side of the political debate that is actually interested in finding out what the hell is really going on.
Check out the Open Sources Intelligence mailing list (OSINT-L). Subscribe in digest format.
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People aren't getting it
I'm really amazed at the number of people on all sides of the political spectrum who can't figure out what's going on around them. Foriegn outsourcing is not about corporate survival except in companies with a historic record of mismanagement. Let's say you're making millions of units of almost any mass market item a year. The difference between the cost of doing R&D here and in India spread over X-million units is fairly trivial. A recent article quotes a CEO as saying that he expects a problem with Indian competition 10 years from now, but this is saving him money now... what's implied is that 10 years from now will be someone else's problem.
This is about notching up earnings in a down economy so CEOs can make the profit targets which will enable their next batch of stock options. It's the same sort of thing that has produced Enron-style shell games to inflate reported profits.
Like just about everything else that's been going on in the last few years at the large corporate level, it's about short-term maximation of profits. Not for the stockholders, for the CEOs themselves. The stockholders aren't going to know when to dump their stock to get maximum value for it. The CEOs don't have the slightest interest in their employeess, the health of the nation or the communities in which they're doing business, profit for the stockholders or building good companies anymore. "The commons" is just something to privatise a chunk of and strip-mine that chunk until it's worthless.
This is hardly surprising. When one's main form of compensation is based on meeting quarterly profit or stock price targets, one doesn't want to invest in long-term R&D or employees or anything that might conceivably interfere with making the next batch of stock options kick in. Doing anything interesting and creative that doesn't show an immediate return is the sort of thing that makes investment analysts who generally don't understand what the companies that they advise about do real unhappy. Make them unhappy and the stock price drops. The stock one previously got in compensation drops in value... along with the CEO's personal net worth.
Why hasn't private industry built a space infrastructure capable of supporting things like a powersat network supplying enough energy to make Middle East oil permanently obsolete? In general, the present corporate business model can't support major projects that would take 10 years to provide a return on investment. A typical Fortune 500 CEO isn't going to start a project that's going to do nothing for him but make a successor look real good.
The funniest part about this is that the CEOs doing this appear to be under the impression that India is just another bunch of burbs whose residents talk funny, have an interesting ethnic cuisine and work real cheap.
[Note 1] They are normally on the edge of nuclear war with their Muslim neighbor, Pakistan, mainly over religious hostility. The dominant religious grouping (Hindus) is calling for the expulsion of Muslims. Poor Muslims are being physically pushed into Bangladesh.
Message: 10
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:08:10 -0500 (EST)
From: "IntellNet"
Subject: News Flash: Ten killed as bomb rips rail coach in BombayTen people were killed and 75 hurt yesterday when a bomb blew up on a train packed with homebound commuters in Bombay, the deadliest in a spate of blasts in India's financial capital in recent months.
Note 1 - to read this kind of happy fun news yourself, subscribe to OSINT-L, the Open Sources Intelligence mailing list.
What I describe is business as usual.
Third World generally translates as "powder keg".
However, the CEOs who are doing this know that if they lose their bet and one of their call centers disappears in a conve
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Re:I know far less than I should.You can do some good reading:
- here [counterspin.tv] (You will recognize the format)
- here [yahoo groups] (In Spanish with articles in English)
- here [yahoo groups](In Spanish and English)
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find (quickly) my links to the forums or best analysis I have read about the situation there
Maybe tomorrow I will send you more links (this should keep you busy for a litte bit anyway)
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Help Simputer ( Low budget development) !!!Talk about low budget development !!! Here is the text from their website :
You can Help
There are several ways by which individuals and organizations can help the Simputer project.
Financial: The Simputer has been unique in that it has been unfettered by any commitments given to any funding agency, simply because there hasn't been any funding agency . The flexibility and academic freedom offered by the Indian Institute of Science, the visionary and bold attitude of the Board of Encore Software Ltd., the time of the seven trustees and creative use of available resources are all factors in bringing the Simputer project to this stage. The entire IPR of the Simputer project has been vested with the Simputer Trust by the two institutions concerned: Encore Software and Indian Institute of Science.
It will certainly be a surprise for most to learn that as of today (May 7th, 2001) the Simputer Trust does not have a bank account! (we are in the process of creating one). Obviously, this state of affairs cannot continue for too long. The Trust plans to raise resources to further the Simputer project by the following means:
- license fees for Simputerised and Simputer manufacturing licenses
- Grants, donations, and gifts from diverse organizations and individuals
If you wish to contribute financially to the Simputer project, please get in touch with us for payment details.
Development: There has been a huge number of mails expressing interest in contributing to the growing Simputer effort. We have setup a mailing list for Simputer Development related efforts.
Join the Simputer Yahoo Group
at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/simputer/
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Community Discussions need Better Technology Tools
In the specific area of online discussions in local communities we need your advice. Related discussions on this has occured on the Democracies Online Code Network e-mail list for civic-minded techies.
We use e-mail lists. They work. Our participants love them. They need to work better with the web. We do not need a web-based system that treats e-mail participants as second class citizens. Our thousands of users won't make the transition - and we are not going to sacrifice our sustainable non-profit model that has worked for eight years.
In an ideal world someone would create an e-mail/web system akin to a cleaner, crisper Yahoogroups but something better that you can host on your own domain.
What we have:
Mailman with additional archives using Mail-Archive. (We are moving our last few lists off Yahoogroups.)
Basic web pages with forum information, hundreds of Minnesota-specific political links, and special election/candidate link directories.What we need in term of priority:
1. Advanced Web Archives and Subject Line Syndication - Improved web access to our e-mail forum archives including the ability to post via the web to -recent- messages by "no e-mail" members, the ability to automatically display via RSS the most recent subject lines from our various lists on our home page/other key web pages to posts in the archives. Hypermail, Mhonarc just don't cut it. They were great in their time, but we need something that takes advantage of MySQL, allows for linear display of posts in the same thread, and other tools. More on this
....2. Member Preferences Page - A single page like Yahoogroups where someone can control their settings on the all the lists they subscribe to on our server. We'd also like to allow people to recommend new e-mail lists for their local communities and essentially reserve a spot by letting us know that they are interested in a specific city/county/region or statewide public policy issue. We do not open community discussions without at least 100 participants and have an extensive public outreach process that goes with each new lists (i.e. online and in-person recruiting). If we recruit 50,000 "e-citizens" across Minnesota we need to use technology to help shape our forum development priorities.
3. Member Directory with Archive Links - (Again, we are not interested/able to use a web-centric conferencing system) This is where the web can complement our e-mail environment. I'd like each member to have the option to share information about themselves (our rules for posting including signing your real name, we have to use personal accountability in our model for online political discourse or everything would be pure crap). I'd like each e-mail that goes through the list server to insert their member directory page URL. From the member-directory page I'd to present both the information provided by the participants but also links to their recent posts across our various forums. And perhaps
...4. Participant Ratings - With unmoderated mailing lists, rating each post before it is delivered is impossible. Even if we moderate our lists, a multiple moderater bottle neck among our mostly non-techie audience would cause major delays in discourse. So
... one idea is to allow participants to optionally vote +1 substance, -1 for style for any post after it is distributed. We don't want to create a situation where people simply vote against people of other ideologies (we have a cherished and extremely rare cross-political spectrum audience) so some sort of forumula would have to be developed to give various weight to votes (i.e. repeat votes by one individual against another count less over time) and always bring the rating toward zero over time. Oh - why do this? While our unmoderated lists to have forum managers who have the power to sanction participants who violate our rules and guidelines, we ultimately believe that self-regulation, and group self-governance is our strength. We walk on a tight rope between chaos and control in order to keep and build our participatory civic audience based on our democratic and community purpose.5. E-Newsletter Distributed Content Management System - We have currently have 4,000+ people on our general announcement list (over next five years we'd like it to raise it to 50,000 or 1% of Minnesotans). We are planning a once or twice monthly e-mail newsletter with various content sections. I'd like to give our volunteer editor the tools to allow other volunteers to submit content (i.e. event lists, Minnesota political history this month, quotes of the month from our forums) on a regular basis into key sections of the newsletter and assuming that some content will be to long for e-mail newsletter format, something that integrates with a longer web section. 6. Mailman Advancements? Or another list packages. As an organization we'd like the ability to send one message to everyone on one of our lists without double posting. For our volunteer list managers we need the ability to quickly delete all the non-member (mostly spam) posts in one or two clicks and not have to click and select every post. What list packages do people recommend?
If you actually read this far, you should join the DO-CODE e-mail list that I mentioned above.
Cheers, Steven Clift
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no (real) problem
no real difference with the yahoogroups ads, I think, maybe some colorfull big pictures (or applets, or whatever) about some products I won't be able to order from Switzerland...
This is nothing new so, I guess I'll stick with Slashdot while junkbusting whatever I can.
If that appear, well, as long as I don't have to wait until the complete ad has been shitted to read the tro^Wcomments, it's okay.
In a case, I'll have expectations if I pay to read an ad-free site, in the other, well, I guess we are becoming used to it.
After the numerous campaigns against pollutions (air, then water, then noise) I guess one will soon call these visual pollution and finally totally ignore ads as a cow ignores flies.
Good job, guys, if you don't change anything else (btw, I disable javascript, so don't put popups). -
Competition
Proxim Cards are also available and access points should be out next week.
"The new Skyline 802.11a CardBus Card and Access Point are fully compliant with the IEEE 802.11a standard and also feature Proxim's 2X(TM) mode, which enables connection speeds up to 108 Mbps. "
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/message/ 2461
And Gino says the following:
"Re: 802.11a Basics- Shipping
I have Proxim 802.11a cardbus cards on stock....
need any?
AP will ship next week..
Gino"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/message/ 2457
Bill Austin
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Re:No Win32 Open Source?
GIMP. yes. I can certainly say it is supported. I spearhead the support group fFor it. At present, it has been upgraded to version 1.2.0, which has been deemed pretty effective fFor all present upgrades of the prog (1.2.1 fFixed a couple tiny bugs on certain platforms, and 1.2.2 added some help fFiles) so no major upgrades are available at this point. But i digress.
I started using GIMP-win some years ago, around version 1.1.2. I introduced it to my NT/Mac based office which had been previously all photoshop. my boss was so impressed with the package (and taken by the price) that he opted to run all of our graphics through GIMP. three mac stations costing a cumulative $1700 were replaced by much smaller, simpler machines running fFree software. (today, we are looking at upgrading the system to use mac-gimp on OS-X)
I then was able to introduce the apache win32 port; and ultimately, he was convinced it would be useful to introduce a linux box fFor total versatility. -
Re:802.11 & the purpose of bluetooth
Here is the message (REG) containing most of the useful references for co-existence and interoperability of 802.11b and Bluetooth
Bill Austin
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buying coop formed
I hve formed a coop for buying these units. If you are interested in buying one or more, join the mailing list at audrey-coop@yahoogroups.com
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Re:COPA or rather COPPA
COPPA, the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, is about collecting personally-identifiable information, not aggregate data, so I'm not sure this is a violation. Also keep in mind that COPPA, which is constitutional, should not be confused with the anti-adult material Children's Online Protection Act, or COPA, which was found to be unconstitutional. Jonathan I. Ezor Dir. of Legal Affairs, CyberRebate.com Find out why Library Journal called Jonathan's book CLICKING THROUGH: A Survival Guide for Bringing Your Company Online (Bloomberg Press: 1999) one of "The Best Business Books of 1999"! Click here for free Internet legal news for your Web site or newsletter.