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Geeks in Suits
This weekend Hemos & I went to California for
Chris and Christine's
wedding. Congratulations to both of them. It was a great ceremony and we're both super happy for ya... buuuut that's not the point of this story. What follows may frighten you, but it must be exposed. Geeks in Suits. Yes it's
Rasterman,
Mandrake (with Tammy)
NeTTwerk,
Horms,
Kevin,
Hemos and yes it's true, me:
CmdrTaco (note: this is the first time I have ever worn a suit). Thanks to OctobrX for the pics, you can see more
on his site. Update: 01/25 01:49 by CT : And sorry about those broken links. Email x@themes.org and tell him he's dumb ;)
Gentlemen,
It is already the 24th of January, and the Slashdot source code is still nowhere in sight. For too long now, we have borne the unbearable. We have endured enough.
I propose a Slashdot boycott, starting 12.01am lasting till 11.59pm, this Friday the 28th of January, Pacific Standard time. For the chance to change history, we shall for a day forsake our geek news.
This being a revolution led by an AC, shall truly be an uprising of the masses. Come on all ye faceless ones, this is your chance to change history.
All in favor say "Aye"
AC
Can we get a new topic, "self-aggrandizing non-news for rabid Andover-worshipping fanboyz?"
Just so I could filter it out.
. o O ( Wow, this'll probably get my first flamebait points, fun! Still, this is SUCH non-news or things-that-matter. It's just the editors using Slashdot as a personal homepage. What's next, "Rob's Aibo matures to 'Adult' Level -- click here for cute pix!!!?" )
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Nothing reinforces one's point better than a quote from a fantasy vampire novel, no, really....
In response to your points:
--I get what I pay for.
This typifies the what-can-I-get attitude that's taken over Slashdot and the Open Source universe since it started making news.
I don't just GET from Slashdot. I post here. I am a content generator for the site. I am part of what people come here for. I'm not a mindless content consumer. I help shape this site in my own tiny way, and as such feel entitled to criticize when the site is being misadministered in my opinion.
-- Grab the tarball and start one of my own.
Well, first, the tarball isn't available in any real sense. Second, I don't want to make a fork, I want to contribute positively to the primary tree.
-- Whining doesn't become me.
"Whining" is a lazy man's name for "Bug Reports."
-- Who was the jerk that gave me a +3?
Gasp, shock, horror, someone that thinks that criticism of Slashdot isn't innately bad?
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In the URL, replace the string "Christinas" with "Christines" ('a' to 'e'). This will get you started.
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Was I the only one thinking a visit by photo.net would have helped a couple of those photos?
The joys of marriage. I have never seen a married couple which was happy. They work their asses off to appear happy but never are. For 4 years of engagement the wife has the whole patriarchy system structured like a swiss watch and the husband has spent 4 years of engagement trying to synthesize the financial resources of two. Then the certificate is signed, the husband continues to work like mad to impress the wife and provide, and the economy changes. One day the husband comes home with some bad news. The wife has to get a BSEE at the age of 40. The relationship goes down hill and it's another engineering student ranting about how life sucks da daaa.
Here it is in a point and click link.
Actually, I agree with the first post...I couldn't figure out why this was on here, except as another ego spasm from Taco.
/. was chips and dips, but those days are long gone, especially since they buyout by andover.
/., I still love the site...it just seems like this is out of place that's all).
Yeah I remember when
What do you think tacohell and cmdrtaco.net are for?
(This is not a flame against Rob or
Brian
I imaging there's already a Natalie Portman theme for Enlightenment, oui?
Graham
Graham
Linux - Fast Pane Relief
Rob, are you sure you didn't mean to post this to Taco Hell instead?
If 90% of everything isn't crap, your standards are too high.
I have been married for just shy of a decade and I have to tell you that you are wrong. Sure, if you buy into a set of social roles and just live that - well people aren't cardboard cut-outs. But if you realize that and work to keep a relationship alive - well I know people who are going strong for a lot longer than I have been married!
Of coure you only get out what you put in...
Cheers,
Ben
My usual seat in the cluetrain is at A HREF="http://pub4.ezboard.com/biwethey.ht
Ok, you don't care about the subject being discussed. Fine. BUT you couldn't leave it there. You took the time to hit Reply, Write out a post to complain, and submit.
If you don't care, SHOW YOU DON'T CARE. Don't clog up the discussion with complaints! That annoys the people who ARE interested.
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon? :P)
(If you can't figure out how to E-Mail me, Don't.
For you Slashdotters out there, here are some pics of my wedding originally for Lewie, my best man (because we live so far apart)
I'm sorry. What I meant to say was 'please excuse me.'
what came out of my mouth was 'Move or I'll kill you!'
Was he too busy [driving his yellow (red) cars, posting inappropriate articles on slashdot, and crying about being flamed to make it?
Of course not, silly AC! Someone had to chauffuer the newly married couple around, didn't they?
I'm sorry. What I meant to say was 'please excuse me.'
what came out of my mouth was 'Move or I'll kill you!'
In the immortal words of Lestat the Vampire,
"Louis, Louis, Louis, stop whining!"
After all, you get exactly what you pay for.
If you don't like it, grab the tarball and go start one of your own. Whining doesn't become you. (btw, who WAS the jerk that gave him a +3??)
Contrast this with a party-mad jock type of personality and you'll see my point.
Also Geeks tend to improve with age, as they pick up more "normal" people skills and become generally less awkward to the point where you can't even tell they are Geeks. So basically if you marry a Geek he/she will only improve with age unlike some OTHER demographics out there. (Where are all those 'cool guys' fron high school now?)
Thats my basic thesis, although I have no data.
Obviously there are a lot of other factors involved, I just think that Geeks posses a lot of the qualities that could help in marriage.
PS: I am thinking of someone like WOZ here not Kevin Mitnick.
The only reason all cover-ups appear to fail is that you never hear about the ones that succeed.
Hi, I'm the "Who Cares?" guy. You make some very good points, and none that I can really argue with, except to say that I disagree with your statement that Slashdot is about the "human experience." You're getting a little close to demonstrating Heisenberg's Uncertainity Principle there. Show me an active web site that isn't an example of the human experience. But that's irrelevant here.
My beef is with the editorial style used to decide what gets posted and what doesn't. I read this site daily for news. Just like we, as a country (US), used to watch Walter Cronkite for the nightly news. How would you have taken it if good old Walter had taken a quick minute to tell the country about the wedding of a friend that he attended over the weekend, complete with pictures? Would it have felt out of place? Would you have thought to yourself "What is he doing? He's flipped his lid!"
Now, I agree that this whole internet deal is a "brave new frontier" and that all of the old rules don't apply, but please, God, tell me that relevance is still relevant! There are days that I have to check that I'm reading Slashdot and not Segfault.org!
I don't know what the CNN tech editor's favorite technology is, but I know Hemos is all over nanotech - and I'm with him all the way. That's the kind of thing I love this place for - very real world stuff, like breakthroughs and news, not just stuff. Rob's got a home page, what's wrong with putting this story there? I'm sure he gets lots of hits every day since he's linked to right from the front page.
If this story had been posted as something other as news I probably wouldn't have flown off the handle, but it was and I did. Maybe if Rob and Hemos spent more time actually running the site and not delegating the editorial duties to so many others, thereby diluting the quality, I'd just shut up.
Anyway, I hope that the cloning technology hurries up and gets here so that we can have Rob and Hemos doing both the editorial work, site development and source release.
Mike "insert smilies where appropriate" Loseke
Thanks Jeff! Glad to know you guys DO care enough to read the comments and occasionally post (but not often enough!)
Congrats to the Happy Couple.
As for the earlier poster above...
Why don't all you whiners go somewhere else and start your own "News for Nerds/Stuff That Matters" site? I happen to like Slashdot just fine the way it is, and I think that Rob/Jeff/et al are doing a pretty damn good job keeping it up with the tremendous growth in popularity of Slashdot over the past year.
Unfortunately, with that growth comes an influx of children, Microsoft Apologists, Linux-Haters, and other net-dreck. I guess that's the breaks though.
Don't throw your computer out the window, throw the Windows out of your computer!
THE DORKS IN BLACK !!!
A wealthy eccentric who marches to the beat of a different drum. But you may call me "Noodle Noggin."
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
Chris DiBona?
Are NeTTwerk, Hormes and Kevin geek celebrities that I should know?
God, that was funny.
Ceterum censeo Microsoftam esse delendam.
Man, that's hilarious! Is there any way we can enshrine this? It would be a shame to forget about it just a few days later.
-Ted
Four photo sizes just in case you want some of those beautiful pictures on the background of your computer!!
Wow. You're depressing. All the married people I know are happy.
When I'm singing a ballad and a pair of underwear lands on my head, I hate that. It really kills the mood.
-Tom Jones
Boy, Nitrozac really prettyed you boys upo for your appearances in After Y2K, didn't she?
And the brethren went away edified.
The practice of geeks 'mating' for life may not be dangerous in itself, but it is often a 'gateway' to more harmful activities. "Geek Breeding" has been a hot topic recently, and is often a consequence of geek mating. While some people allege that it will throw our society into social chaos, others insist that as long as the child can be provided with loving parents and high-bandwidth connection and its own static IP, it is a fundamental right of all bipeds (including geeks) to breed. A story off of the AP wire reports that Rep. Jean McGrath (R-Glendale, AZ) will introduce a bill tomorrow morning which will outlaw geek-mating in order to pre-empt the battle of geek-breeding and the "moral downfall which it represents."
"The very fact that that a 'geeks' social nature precludes them from mating makes these very unnatural and unholy acts," she said.
The NORN Organization for Recursive Names has called the proposed bill "outrageous". "If AOL/Time Warner/EMI users are protected by the law, we feel geeks should have the same right to repackage their DNA and release it under any license and name that they see fit." In this spirit, NORN is holding a 'Pro-Geeks 2.0' rally on the steps of the state capitol tomorrow.
(Although this reporter, as all media analysts today, has no idea what any of this story is about, I will use my Word spellchecker, "save as HTML", and then ask our technology expert to place it on our website, despite his warning that by doing so I will only deepen the resentment and disdain that the online community has for me and the paper by displaying the lack of knowledge I have on the subject.
.sig last updated Jan. 14, 2000
Oh yay... more masturbation material!! heh
------- What exactly is real?
Tranquilo vato - The Solaris story will be coming soon.
Yeah, I'm that guy.
Well, Slashdot has "topics," that we're allowed (nay, encouraged) to filter with user preferences, and when something's posted in a horribly incorrect topic ("news," in this case), the value of the site lessens, because the functionality doesn't work as advertised.
I don't care if Hemos posts pictures of the new pimples on his butt every day, as long as they're not stuck into some topic I'd otherwise be interested in, like 'news' or 'science' or the like. Isn't there a 'geeks in space' topic that this would have been better suited for?
And yes, it's not just "News for Nerds." It's also "Stuff that Matters." Which this story isn't.
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I mean, really: who cares?
Its people who make technology happen and its good news to see the faces of people who make this community thrive get married and start a family. If you have wedding pictures and other good news, I'd sure like to see it. It just brightens my day a little to see those in this community doing good things with their lives.
instead of a long winded counter-counter-counter-argument, i'll just refer you back to the last counter-argument...if you just want straight news, why not read the other weblogs that do basically the same stuff?
:) even if it isn't strictly technological news, it's definitely _community news_ and for some of us here, it's most definitely stuff that matters.
/. has never had the motto "news for nerds: purely technological stuff that bugzilla wants to see"
there are those of us in the community who love seeing this stuff (btw, congrats chris
afaik,
-dk
-dk
Dream with the feathers of angels stuffed beneath your head.
Do you have a clue what Slashdot is about? It isn't _just_ News for Nerds. It's about a site that has all of the stuff that Rob is interested in on it (and then some). This particular event interests Rob. He probably doesn't care whether or not you care. It's interesting to some of us, just like every other story (some I ignore, some are neat, some are stupid, etc.).
I'm not ignorant enough to think that every story on Slashdot is going to be so grand that I can sit around whimpering "who cares? so what?" to anything that's less than amazing. So why are you?
Gee I wish I had a site that hundred of thousands of people watched for news so that I could grandstand any ol' time I wanted. Perhaps I should create a geek gossip site for just this kind of stuff. ("Did you hear? Cowboy Neal went on a date! With a REAL WOMAN! Rumor has it was with the X10 QuickCam ``Babe''!")
The subject of this message refers not to the news item, but to the non-stop and ever inceasing volume of ctiticism from message posters leveled at every kind of topic posted.
"Less personal info. Less legal stuff. Less stuff about commercial software. Less opinion pieces from [whoever]."
What are we left with? A bunch of dry news items about kernel releases and KDE upgrades. I much prefer the occasional personal piece from our online friends, or the occasional humourous new topic.
If you are posting a message on here complaining about the signal/noise ratio on Slashdot, think it over first. You are about to become the noise, not the signal.
Hotnutz.com
Now please realize that I am not commenting one way or the other. For all I know, geek marraiges could be twice as successful as "normal folks" weddings (hey cleetus, where's that woman?). What I am wondering is if geeks do better, if so, why? If not why? And if you have no clue, what do you predict?
To start things off, my theory. I predict that geeks do just as well as anyone else - no better no worse. There are those that succeed because two highly reclusive people fit well togethor and an equal amount that fail based on the same reasoning. I have absolutely NO hard data to back this up, but that's the point.
14 digits of Pi are all we need.
Replace "Chris_and_Christinas-Wedding" with "Chris_and_Christines-Wedding" in all cases.
And the brethren went away edified.
Hey, y'all're missin' the point!
:) This is "News for Nerds" right?
That guy ended up with this girl. This proves that even total geeks like this guy can end up with a hot girl like this!
:)
*ducking*
My journal has hot
I'm too sexy for this site
Too sexy for this site
Too sexy, daaaaamn right
I do my sexy thing here at Slashdot.
Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
And I'm, too sexy for JonKatz,
Too sexy for JonKatz,
what's he think about that?
I do my sexy thing here at Slashdot.
Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
I'm too sexy for you trolls
Too sexy for you trolls
Go back into your holes.
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Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
And I'm to sexy for AC's
Too sexy for AC's
They wish they could write posts like these
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Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
I'm too sexy for Roblimo
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Nobody ever liked himo.
I do my sexy thing here at Slashdot.
Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
And I'm too sexy for RedHat
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It is bloated dumb and fat
I do my sexy thing here at Slashdot.
Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
I'm too sexy for Trollmastah
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His posts are inferior to mine, basta'
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And I'm too sexy for your karma
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Go post at ZD-net you harma
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Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
I post a lot of posts here at Slashdot.
I'm too sexy for Signal11
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He dies but he doesn't go to heaven.
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Yeah here at Slashdot, yeah
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Let me make a few points.
- The web is about communication. Pure and simple. It really doesn't do anything else except transmit knowledge from one place to another. CmdrTaco wished to communicate something about his life. This is no less, and no more, relevant than the DeCSS injunction posts because they both deal with the human experience.
- No one will argue that Hemos and CmdrTaco and the rest of the
/. gang have given vast chunks of their life up to this website. In their little remaining time they do non /. things. They have in the past, and will continue to in the future hopefully, posted several of the (remaining after /. work ) personal events in their lives. This fosters a sense of community and gives greater value to all the posts because it gives you a connection to the crew that makes this possible. Again, they are communicating the human experience through mostly news, but other tidbits as well. - If you come to
/. for a good spot to stay current in technology, great. But ask yourself, why not the hundreds of other weblogs that do the same thing? Why not the major news outlets? It is probably the /. community itself. The monster of this site's editors sick and twisted minds. *grin* This community was created because we knew we could get the technical information we want and need, but without the dissatisfying taste that we get when we go to other, blander, less human web sites.
SoI'll conclude with this exercise
What is the CNN tech new editor's favorite technology?
What is Hemos' favorite technology?
The proof is in the pudding.
Crulx
crulx@iaxs.net
Why do so many geeks/nerds/hackers/etc. dislike wearing suits? Or is there just a conspiracy among the media to make that seem so? ;-) (And yes, I've read the jargon files, among others.)
/dev/closet for important things like hardwear^H^H^Hare)
/dev/closet :-)
It seems like suits would be much sought after for a few reasons:
1) Quality: Your OS is custom tailored, why aren't your clothes?
2) Slickness: Your GUI is fashionable, why aren't you?
3) Reuse: Your processes rarely raise a stink after running for days/weeks/months/years on end, but after 24hrs. those jeans and t-shirts are another story.
4) Modularity: 2+ piece suits can load or unload modules as needed. Processor too hot? rmmod coat. Packets lost in the stream? rmmod necktie. Change in environment? insmod coat. Expecting PHB attack on port *:brainbox insmod necktie.
5) Efficiency: Since suits/shirts/accessories are interchangeable, there's no need to make your apparel statically linked. (Leave that space on
6) Emulation: Fool your boss, get a raise.
Well, enough of that list. Now I'll try to predict some replies (R) and answer (A) them:
1) Quality:
(R) Sure, you jerk! Not everyone can afford that!
(A) You're in the computer industry and can't afford two good suits, shirts, and dry-cleaning? Either think of them as supplements instead of complements, or get a job that pays you what it should.
2) Slickness:
(R) According to the numbers, MS's GUI is fashionable. I like to express my individuality.
(A) Fashion isn't about popularity/market-appeal. If you're thinking this way, you're probably missing the point of being an individual.
3) Reuse:
(R) I can wear my clothes for days and noone complains.
(A) They are being polite, but probably stop that when you're not around. Beside badly affecting you in ways you may not know, it's unhealthy.
4) Modularity:
(R) Yeah, and I can do the same thing with a regular jacket and so forth.
(A) Sure, but a suit opens more doors.
5) Efficiency:
(R) What could be easier than jeans and a t-shirt? How often do you mix-and-match coats and trousers? That sounds like a static link to me.
(A) OK, you got me here. But you still can save closet space (and I can pretend I have a
6) Emulation:
(R) As if that ever really happens.
(A) Try it.
OK, I'm done. Now I'm going to put on my flame-retardant SUIT and wait for replies. In the mean time perhaps someone will come up with open source clothing designs and a sewing machine device driver. Either that or I'll wait for jokes about keyRINGs, softWEAR, jeans, genomes, gnomes; or at least for the server load to drop so I can see the photos.