Playing Nintendo Causes Blisters?
drxenon writes, "In this story on AltaVista Live, the real truth about those hand injuries is made known. Nintendo is offering up to $80 million (US) worth of gloves for buyers of the "Mario Party" Nintendo64 game. Over 90 complaints have been filed concerning blisters, cuts, and other hand injuries!" The article gives info on how to get *your* gloves. If you're a Nintendo user, go for it!
i get blisters but only from games like Street Fighter 2
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I got my first gaming blisters from Gorf (the Commodore VIC-20 cartridge version) because of the stupid positioning of the fire button on the Commodore joysticks. I never even thought of suing Commodore or anyone else because of that.
Quite frankly, if you're playing a game enough to get blisters, you have way too much free time on your hands. Suing somebody for that is just frivolous.
...I'm still waiting for ID Games to reimburse me for lost wages after I got fired for playing Quake 3 Arena too much.
Playing the Atari 7800 (Food Fight!) for hours at a time made my hands hurt. Solution? Stop playing every once in a while.
Playing Zelda on the Nintendo for hours at a time made my eyes hurt. But after a while, I beat it, and I didn't have to play it as much.
Maybe the controllers aren't designed for really prolonged usage, but our bodies aren't either. Some people just don't know when to quit.
Read a book, guys. Go outside. But don't sue the people who make your games just because you're lazy!
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After years of Slashdot usage, I've notices that I've developed not only blisters and hand cramps, but also a bad case of schizophrenic paranoia.
I'm suing RobLimo for wrist guards, gloves, and electroshock (some of which I'll share with him). I 0wn you, Robin. I've been stalking you since your Pathfinder days, and I don't expect to stop.
A lot more information on this can be found at http://www.oag.state.ny.us/p ress/2000/mar/mar08a_00.html, the state Attorney General's page on the matter.
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Looks like a new form of Nintendonitous.
Also, they seem to only want to send one glove. (They ask you to specify whether you want left or right) Maybe they'll send up to four gloves, but only one in each size / orientation.
You need to send them one of the following:
- A receipt for the game
- A credit card statement showing a purchase of the game
- A cancelled check for the game
- The UPC code, cut out of the side of the box
- The first page of the instruction booklet
- A photo of the cartridge
- A photo of your TV, with the game onscreen.
Also, they need an outline of the player's hand, traced on white paper, so they know what size.Since it's just an ordinary glove, and they're being pretty generous, please don't screw them over.
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So if Nintendo has to supply gloves to those whose hands are damaged through excessive Mario Partying, should the tobacco companies be paying for the health care of those dying from lung cancer through smoking, etc?
The problem with the Mario Party games is the fact that in some of the mini-games the N64's analogue control stick needs to be quickly rotated. Some gamers go about this by using their palm on the top of the stick, instead of their thumb as ALL of Nintendo's documentation suggests.
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I have played the game a bit, and I personnally use my thumb most of the time, however when I do use my palm, my IQ kicks in and i SIMPLY DON'T PRESS HARD! My younger cousins (ie: under 12) have problems with this, and sometimes get blisters. I have taught them to use their thumbs, or press softly... problem gone!
Companies should not be held accountable for product misuse. This is like blaiming soda bulbs for children's deaths (they are for drinks, not for rockets.) This sounds like a Geeks in Space awhile back:
Something like this (off the top of my head):
CowboyNeal: Once I was injured by a Microsoft Natural Keyboard
CmdrTaco (I think): Dude, that doesn't count when your mom wraps it round your neck...
They then talk about the time he got his hair caught in an IntelliMouse
But, would this be M$'s? fault? Of course not! Why blaim Nintendo for stupidity, or a lack of parental supervision?
Stupidity should not be allowed to rule the day.
I guess it's Nintendo's fault that people are playing so much video games that they have blisters. that's like Gun makers offering free bulletproof vests for those who keep getting hurt from shooting themselves...
if you read the article it points out that the glove giveaway is because the ny state attorney general investigated it.
boy, doesn't that make you feel so much safer?
now that you wont get injured by playing nintendo 24-7, youll never have to go outside and risk being perforated by triggerhappy plainclothes police officers with automatic pistols.
if you really want a laugh, dial the 800 number
1-800-521-0900
and listen to the safety warning. i fell out of my chair laughing. sample:
some individuals may experience skin irritation, including blisters and/or damage to the control stick if they rotate the control stick with the palm of your hand. nintendo recommends that you rotate the control stick with your thumb or holding it between your thumb and forefinger. if neither of these methods work for you, and you would still prefer to use your palm to rotate the control stick, nintendo will send you a glove upon receipt of acceptable proof of ownership...
you need to send proof of purchase + an outline of your hand, "so that nintendo can determine the size of the glove to send and whether it should be for the right or left hand". proof of purchase can even be a picture of the game or a picture of a tv screen running the game. shipping in 4-6 weeks.
this kind of stuff boggles the mind.
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I remember playing Super Mario Brothers 3 and Zelda (mostly zelda - what a game! It's still a lot of fun to play the original) as a tike right up until my bedtime. Having played all day, and not wanted to have to restart from scratch, I would unplug the adapter from the back of the TV, and put a video cassette box in front of the power light so that my parents would be unaware that it was still on (they didn't like it - thought it was a fire hazzard or something). I would then get up early in the morning merely to finish my game. Sadly, many times I'd come back to find that it had crashed/frozen. Very upsetting at the time.
Back to the topic of blisters and such! :) The original NES controllers were hardly agronomic, and gave me terrible soreness after many hours of play. (we could also complain about the ~60hz refresh of the TV... after 8 or so hours, that can give you one splitting headache at relateively close range...) :) (the gameboy was even worse, for that matter...) Still, something must be said for these device's durability. I myself never owned a gameboy, but serveral of my friends have, and their gameboys took/take tremendous beatings. If any newer devices that are similar in build (say, the palm) were to get dropped, stepped on, thrown, run over, submerged in water, etc, they most certainly would be destroyed. But I've seen the gameboy go through all that and survive, and rarely have cosmetic disorder, even. (I think this is because Nintendo of America seems to have a projected audience of 5-10 year olds in mind when they make their products... just a guess.)
still, every blister I got playing those games was well worth it. It made the game a lasting memory in my mind, made it a special event. No pain, no gain. I think that giving game players gloves to use free of charge will partially ruin the game experience for many of the players, minimalizing the preserverence that goes into beating a game.
More than likely, the main people playing mario party will be little kids - Mario gets fairly irritating for me, and would even if they made a sexy game with a quake 3 style engine using the guy. Considering that Mario is a kid thing, to a great extent, many of those gloves might go completely disused. (I know I wouldn't have used a glove... you lose tactility by adding an extra layer. Even I realized that at a young age - but maybe not with that verbiage.) :)
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I had forgotten all about it, actually, until I read the story.
About two months ago I was playing Mario Party with my nine year old son, and he was teaching me the mini-games. I don't remember which one it was, but basically, you had to rotate the joystick faster than the other player to win. Of course, the only way to do this quickly is to place the controller in the center of your hand and rotate it that way.
Sure enough, I was rewarded for my efforts (I finally beat my kid at something on the Nintendo :-) with a large, painful blister that took a week to heal, and I can still see a faint outline where the new skin grew back.
Well, I could sue, or better yet, just use a little common sense next time.
Babies are cute because they have to be.
Many people seem to be implying with their posts that Nintendo shouldn't be responsible for people hurting themselves from playing too much. This isn't exactly the case. For those who don't play Mario Party, here's how it works:
r -$500, fit-video-games-somewhere-in-there machines.
The game is kind-of-like a board game. The object is to get as many stars as possible. The person with the most stars at the end is the "Super Star". Stars cost money, and at the end of every turn, the players play a [semi]random mini-game in competition for coins. The hand devastation comes from some minigames where the way you win is by rotating the analog stick as fast as you can. (Games like tug-of-war and pattle battle). Nintendo put grips into the tops of their analog sticks so that it would be easier to make fine controls in games like Mario World, which is really just shortsided on their part, thinking that all that stick would be good for is meneuvering in a 3D enviornment.
Anyway, after playing even one of these minigames where the object is to rotate the stick, your hand is raw. In most minigames, this is not the objective, but they are frequent enough that by the end of the whole game, you are in some serious pain (even though you had a great time).
This is probably one of the most fun nintendo games there is. Its designed for 4 players at a time, everyone can see the whole screen all the time (no split screen [ala any first person shooter or any racing game] where you get some small fraction of an already small screen), and no one can become a "master" and just make the game uninteresting for everyone else. Rent it and call some friends over. Then get some free Nintendo brand gloves too =].
This free glove thing is just a little late. They recently released Mario Party 2 (more of the same thing with some nice new stuff and more games), where all of the stick-rotating minigames have been removed.
Upside: At least Nintendo listens to their customers and tries hard to put good stuff in the box, unlike some broken, rushed-to-market, DVD, Internet, Stereo, do-everything-else-in-the-known-universe-for-unde
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Can we say "Class Action Law Suit"?
Legally, this may translate to an admittance of guilt on Nintendo's part. Then, they will be open for attack from users who have had more serious problems (carpal tunnel syndrome, addiction, insomnia, etc.) with any of their products. Even if these lawsuits all fail, the legal fees could get racked up quickly.
object of the game
rotate joystick rapidly
makes quake look like chess
Perhaps I should complain to Playboy or Penthouse because I'm jacking off too much without using lubricant (which I think they should provide).
Jesus Christ, I probably have carpal tunnel
syndrome from playing Asteroids. Should I
sue Atari?
Or should I just assume that I
am stupid and played a little too long? Maybe
I should have rested between games? No way!
I should get free gloves from Nintendo!
Shit, I just sprained my ankle playing softball. Should I sue the company the made the bat or the company that made the glove. Maybe I should sue the city too for having a softball league at all! After all, they should make sure I am in good enough shape to play softball.
Someone should protect me from my own stupidity!
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Personally I think most of the new games suck and I cant imagine why people get injuries playing boring games like the fighting games. If you are into reflex skill games, in my book nothing beats Stargate the arcade gave from the early 80's (advanced version of defender)
It had 8 controls: left hand: ball headed stick for up-down with a thumb button for direction reverse; right hand: thrust, fire, inviso, smart bomb; either hand hyperspace.
I used to get left thumb and right index finger skin problems (calloses sp? and blisters) but where else could you get and hour of adrenaline rush at extreme levels of complexity for a quarter.
I miss those blisters
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It's a game where you play tug of war against your opponent, the faster you rotate the joystick the harder you pull.. Till eventually you pull the other guy over the edge.
:-( Guess I need to try harder next time :-P
I ddin't get a blister the controller actually became part of my hand. But then I think it was partly my fault. I was a little, well, Excited? I was turnin away at the controller, got up, and started yellin, and screamin, go crazy getting myself pumped up, and intimidating my friends. Next thing I knew it was over, and I looked down and the controller was soaked in blood, and I had to pull the center joystik out of my hand, yes it had actually gone INTO my hand! I still have the scar from where this happened to me! And the worst part, I DIDN'T WIN! It was a damn tie
Anyway's, I think it would be cool if nintendo sent me a special nintendo gaming glove because I managed to get one of their controllers stuck in my hand.
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In one case, a C++ developer from Chicago died when his 9mm handgun was accidentally discharged, into his chest, due to his RSI induced muscle spasm.
The autopsy report stated that death was caused indirectly by RSI, his survivors are suing the company where he worked, stating that there was no workplace RSI policy, and are also suing the suppliers of the text editor he was forced to use - something called "XEmacs" which (they allege) was so convoluted in its operation, that even simple text editing tasks could involve multiple keystrokes, and weird combinations of keys.
I think the message is clear. Emacs can kill you. Just use the one true editor, vi.
thank you.
There was a ZX Spectrum game called Daley Thompson's Decathlon, and most of the games involved you pressing Z and X alternately as fast as possible... the best solution I ever saw to this was a group of friends who figured out that on the original 'rubber-thumb' spectrum keyboards, you could wet your finger and simply slide it back and forth across the appropriate area to get really high scores!
the main problem with this was you destroyed the lettering on the Z and X keys very quickly, but then they were the left and right for almost every game, so everyone knew where they were anyway :)
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Video gaming blisters predate Nintendo by many years. Yep, you young whippersnappers, there were video games before Nintendo! Y'all ever heard of Atari??? In fact, one Atari 2600 game manufacturer, Imagic, had a "Numb Thumb Club"! We had numb thumbs and we were proud of it! Carpal tunnel syndrome? Wussies!
Yep, back in the old days we didn't have rapid fire, and we had to learn how to press that button really fast! And we didn't have these wussy "party" games where you could sit back in your comfy couch holding your controller, we had games like Track and Field where you had to stand up and slap your hands back and forth as fast as you could! In fact, some of the kids figured out they could hold a pencil in just the right way where they could slap those buttons really fast, so those evil arcade people, they put bumps around the buttons where you couldn't do that any more!
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Ok, a bit of a rant, but the point comes down to that I think after using all of these systems, Atari, Magnavox, Coleco, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, Bally, etc. all owe me a buttload of money for the hand problems I have today. I did have a lot of fun with them over the years, but please.. who the heck designs controllers? Whatever..
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How long until every kid is walking around with their required bike helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, Nintendo/jerk-off glove, safety goggles, mouth protector, ear plugs, athletic supporter, etc.? Just yesterday I saw some device being sold in the local sporting goods store that is supposed to protect a child's heart if they are hit in the chest with a baseball. WHAT?? That's why you're wearing a damn glove on your hand! I played baseball from ages 5-22 and never ever heard of anyone dying from this. I have heard of a few freak accidents around the country where this has happened, but it is hardly common enough to warrant selling a shield for it. Back in my youth(says the grumpy old man), I was hit in the mouth, chest, nuts, and just about every other body part with a baseball and saw plenty of other children hit the same, and sure it hurts like hell, but nobody ever died or was seriously injured. If anything, it teaches you to catch the ball, hit the ball, or get the hell out of the way. This "children are weak and must be protected" attitude has really gotten out of hand and is going to result in a generation of people who are very mentally weak. Now we've got a company selling special gloves because excessive video game playing might result in a few blisters. That's so funny I won't even bother commenting. And we wonder why children flip out and shoot up their schools when something or someone hurts their feelings.
But, ya know- back in those days the _joysticks_ broke. Surely you remember that ;)
These days the controls are so battle-hardened and made smaller so they are tougher to destroy, that gamers are beating themselves against them like rams trying to knock heads with a concrete wall ;)
Thick skulled gamers are going to be thick skulled gamers, so the best thing to do would be to make the gloves etc. _cool_. "You can play Mario _without_ protection? Wuss. I'd have a hole in my hand if it wasn't for the special game clothing" ;)
A lot of this is pushed _by_ these companies themselves- do you think Nintendo is going to counter the waves of kids tearing their flesh in efforts to win a Nintendo game, by responding 'It's just a game, settle down'? That's not going to happen- and their voice is a hell of a lot louder than yours is. Be grateful they're even offering protective gear. At least that is some compensation for what they are encouraging kids to do.