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$6 System-On-A-Chip Mimics Human Vision

Brian McLaughlin writes "This article in TechWeb describes a Visual Perception Processor (costing $6) that can automatically detect objects and track their movement in real time, according to Buereau d'Etudes Vision (BEV). They claim that a full-blown vision processing system/application could be built for less than $50 that rivals current state-of-the-art $10,000 systems. Sounds pretty cool. " Heck, with my vision, I could tear my eyeballs out and simply use these, at a fraction of the cost of new glasses.

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  1. Insurance Applications by dharrell · · Score: 2

    I wonder if this is covered under my HMO. :-) Seriously, though, I wonder about the insurance industry and how they are going to handle things like this coming up. LASIK is getting more and more popular, but it is still expensive. If getting a processor like this is cheaper than LASIK and cheaper than conventional glasses -- what's the future of vision plans? At what point do they spring for the implants/glasses/lasers to fix you up? Of course, with all the genome stuff going on, maybe they'll make you fix it before the child is even born.

    1. Re:Insurance Applications by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 2

      I wonder if this is covered under my HMO. :-) Seriously, though, I wonder about the insurance industry and how they are going to handle things like this coming up. LASIK is getting more and more popular, but it is still
      expensive. If getting a processor like this is cheaper than LASIK and cheaper than conventional glasses -- what's the future of vision plans? At what point do they spring for the implants/glasses/lasers to fix you up? Of course, with all
      the genome stuff going on, maybe they'll make you fix it before the child is even born.


      What about the already living? I think that one of the major stumbling blocks for better lives is that there are already people who were born before all this little stuff is going on. I really would like to have the ability to alter my life for the better. The question is does this actually work in say a lab rat or a human? Maybe take a blind person who has really nothing to loose and put one of these in and see if it works.

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    2. Re:Insurance Applications by Wraithlyn · · Score: 2

      Why is everybody talking about curing sight defects with these? Nowhere in the article does it mention interfacing these things with humans, despite Hemos' eye gouging joke in the post.

      This is basically a revolution in hardware accelerated shape/object recognition. With this you could build cars that automatically avoid accidents, robots that navigate through the world like normal people (seing eye droids?), and security systems that track every person in a building.

      Maybe in the future we will be able to link devices directly to the human brain and solve vision problems, but you wouldn't need anything as esoteric as this... you just need the right type of camera to replace an eyeball, not an object recognition chip.

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  2. Good bye privacy by georgeha · · Score: 3

    $50 for a reactive vision processing system? Couple that with a cheap (or free) reliable operating system, and cheap networking that has lots of addresses (IPv6), and you could put watching devices on every street corner, heck in every house (you know, for the safety of the children!).

    Goodbye privacy.

    George

    1. Re:Good bye privacy by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 2

      ...and then imagine it if it were implanted in people, and somehow they were able to record. Privacy would be a thing of the past.

      Unfortunately you have to somehow dupe millions of people into putting these things inside their bodies which would be difficult. Couple that with the trillions and trillions of terabytes that would accumuliate from each and every person who had the device and you have a very untenable situation.

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    2. Re:Good bye privacy by delmoi · · Score: 2

      No doubt, the governments wouldn't stop until there were twice as many of these optical/electronic 'eyes' then there are people on earth! Those bastards!

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  3. The real question here... by karzan · · Score: 2

    A) does it run Linux and
    B) if so, will a beowulf cluster of these things make bugs infinitely shallow?

    1. Re:The real question here... by technos · · Score: 2

      Ironically, you can 'cluster' these things just by feeding them all the same stream. It won't find the bugs in your code, but it will find the cockroaches in your apartment. You may very well have to cluster them if you have as many native species as some of the bachelor apartments I've seen and/or lived in. Also, you can use it to guide the robot vacuum cleaner to suck them up.

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  4. I'll believe it when I see it... by Millennium · · Score: 2

    ...if you'll excuse the awful pun.

    Seriously, though, this has some seriously cool implications if it actually works. It reminds me of a story posted a while back on Slashdot, about a blind man who'd had prototype cranial vision implants back in the 70's. He's currently got some semblance of vision (truly achromatic, poor resolution, and about the size of a 3x5 card held at arm's length, but vision nonetheless). It's had some upgrades over the years, but it's still ancient technology by modern standards. What would happen if they could somehow retrofit that implant with one of these, assuming it worked? While I doubt it'd be anything near human vision, it'd certainly be better (both in terms of vision quality and, probably, physical bulk) as the system he has now.

    It'd certainly be an interesting one to try.

    1. Re:I'll believe it when I see it... by technos · · Score: 2

      These chips process the visual information, not generate it. They identify and track objects in a video stream. They'd be good for a robot that wanted to play baseball, or as a cheap add-on so that your Aibo could recognise you on sight, or as part of a automatic weaponry targeting system. (I doubt we'd have seen it if this had been a US company.. Defense would have snatched it..)

      Hell, it's cheap anough we could all have auto-aim Paint-ball guns, and semi-intelligent autocannon. Look out World, my rocketlauncher is going self-aim!

      Back to the real subject.. The poor fellow has no use for these, unless he also wants his visual cortex cut out in the name of Borgification..

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  5. As long as it doesn't run windows by BoneFlower · · Score: 4

    Driving down highway
    Blue screen of death suddenly
    I crash into tree

  6. Implications? by SnatMandu · · Score: 3
    If this is half of what's it's cracked up to be, I'm pretty impressed. I played around with mobile robots at the university, and doing anything based on vision was very difficult. Most of the time it was easier to solve a problem with sonar. Sonar works great for finding walls and stuff, but as soon as you introduce moving objects into the environment, it gets less useful.

    If this chip is really as capable as it's made out to be, it will mean a great deal to people who are primarily interested in autonomous mobile robots, as opposed to computer vision.

    I could imagine hooking something like this up to a pioneer and solving a bunch of problems.

    Sort of makes me wish I were still a student, with the time and resources to play with robots...

  7. Contact Lenses for Steve Austin? by MorboNixon · · Score: 2

    "Gait identification"?!?

    This is possible? I guess it would work on the Fat Albert & the gang, but the Minister of Silly Walks would fool this thing faster than your machine can go "bing"!

  8. You guys are all missing the point by Digital11 · · Score: 5
    Ok, now before I get kinda pissed about this, think about what you're saying first guys. This isn't some awesome new vision system that will allow blind people to see. It is just a method of emulating the way the brain processes signals from your eyes, and using that information to track objects.

    The brain-eye system uses layers of parallel-processing neurons that pass the signal through a series of preprocessing steps, resulting in real-time tracking of multiple moving objects within a visual scene.

    Get it now? So please guys, don't get any *SMART* ideas and jab your eyes out so you can buy a nice new $6 dollar replacement. (I know no one was actually serious about that, but you guys did still miss the point. Its not the camera thats important, and it would do no good to put xray or a zoom lense on there because you're not looking for the output of what its seeing. Its a TRACKING device. So its not used for monitoring either... geez.) \rant

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  9. Sounds dodgy to me... by spiralx · · Score: 4

    The GVPP's major performance strength over current $10,000 vision systems is its automatic adaptation to varying lighting conditions. Today's vision systems dictate uniform, shadowless illumination, and even next-generation prototype systems, designed to work under "normal" lighting conditions, can be used only from dawn to dusk. The GVPP, on the other hand, adapts to real-time changes in lighting without recalibration, day or night.

    Okay, so what they're claiming is that their brand-new, $6 ($50 in total) device can do things which long-standing scientific projects costing $10,000 cannot? Am I the only one who thinks that this sounds somewhat fishy?

    The GVPP was invented in 1992, when BEV founder Patric Pirim saw it would be relatively simple for a CMOS chip to implement in hardware the separate contributions of temporal and spatial processing in the brain.

    Again don't you think that all of the many computer scientists and neuropsychologists working on machine vision wouldn't have thought of this themselves? I've read a fair bit on the theory of vision processing and pattern recognition and it's a hugely complex subject. And now a small research company has cracked it? I don't think so. If you read the list of things which they say it can be used for it comes across as being a huge gimmick - they seem to have listed everything they could think of that might be worth money.

    1. Re:Sounds dodgy to me... by spiralx · · Score: 2

      Apparently they have concentrated on a subset of vision problems.

      Yes, but the list given at the end lists things like face recognition which is even more tricky than general object recognition. AFAIK even the best systems today have a lot of trouble with faces that are at an angle of even 30 degrees from the viewpoint.

      I'm not saying that they don't have a working chip, I'm saying that the article is filled with marketing hype and very little in the way of facts. The reality of the chip's potential is probably nowhere near what the article hints at, even though I'm sure it has a lot of genuine applications.

    2. Re:Sounds dodgy to me... by clasher · · Score: 2

      It is possible. Sometimes the best, cheapest solutions are the ones which a person who has not been stuck in a money hungry research project. Not that some things don't require a lot of money to develop but sometimes people get stuck up in thinking in one way because they have have a lot of money riding on it. They are often afraid to try anything different.

      It reminds me of the story in Hackers by Steven Levy of the kids who made a ping pong playing robotic arm when the AI students thought it was impossible. Sometimes it takes a different approach to realize something isn't as hard (or expensive) as people believe.

  10. See ++ by RancidPickle · · Score: 2

    automatically detect objects and track their movement in real time, according to Buereau d'Etudes Vision (BEV). They claim that a full-blown vision processing system/application could be built for less than $50 that rivals current state-of-the-art $10,000 systems. Sounds pretty cool It looks like we're in for a slew of good-and-bad things to come. This silicon eye is so cheap that we'll end up seeing it installed in the oddest of places. Everything from the (1984-inspired) eyeball-in-the-TV (gives new meaning to the CBS logo) to anti-collision systems in vehicles. For $50 you can put one on your kid and see what they do (Here, Honey, it's a pendant from Aunt Huxley). Worried about which neighbor's pooch is pooping on your lawn? A few modules can be used to watch and track it home. I guess I'm a pessimist. I see more bad things, particularly in the area of privacy loss, than I see good.

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  11. Not a replacement for human vision by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 2
    The processor sees its environment as a stream of histograms regarding the location and velocity of objects. Those objects could be the white lines on a highway, the football in a televised game or the annotated movement of enemy ground forces from satellite telemetry.

    This system does not see the same way that humans do, nor is there any mention in the article that you could actually get a picture out of one. It's designed to locate movement within its field of vision...nothing more. It doesn't notice, and probably can't 'see', things that do not move.
    I wouldn't want to replace my eyes with these things. I'd be able to see the animated banner ads, but not read the rest of a static web page!

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  12. Re:why would you want to do that? by Millennium · · Score: 2

    Yes. However, I'm not sure that's practical given the current system. Have you seen what this thing looks like? He has a large plastic panel on the side of his head, into which runs a large bundle of wires. Theae are, in turn, attached to large device that fits on a pair of glasses (making him look not unlike a Borg, actually, but that's not the point).

    The problem is, it doesn't look like there's that much room left in either the panel or the device on his head. If you were to fit many more connections in using the current system, I'd guess you'd have to make the system into a large Vaderesque helmet, with connectors going into all sorts of other places in the head simply for there to be room for all of them. Far better to go for something more compact. You can certainly leverage the interface that's already in his head to start, but the external system's going to have to go if you want to fit many more connectors into his brain. It's a matter of physical size more than anything else.

  13. A bloody commercial by aav · · Score: 3

    Actually it's not as impressive as it looks.
    They say that The $6 Generic Visual Perception Processor (GVPP) can automatically detect objects and track their movement in real-time, according to Bureau d'Etudes Vision (BEV)
    This can be easily accomplished by a technique called blob tracking - which is the coarsest image vision technique. A similar project (impressive too) was developed at a japanese company (although I don't remember exactly where). It was some sort of interactive game where a pet was playing with you in a projected image. You moved, played with it and it seemed to understant if you touched him,petted him etc. The catch was that the camera was filled with cameras and they detected the movement of your hands. Given the speed, direction etc. they could actually appreciate what you were supposed to do.
    Cute, but nothing interesting from a research point of view.
    I assume that they are doing the same. It is very easy to identify the movements in an image (you can do it in real time even on a Pentium). Check any image vision book for details.
    Probably they built some chip that works at the speed of a controller (i.e. very fast) but, as any controller performs very few operations.
    Still they don't say anything about actual image understanding.
    And this is where comes the commercial part. Because they actually are not saying their chip can understand an image. They simply can track motion. That system wouldn't have a clue whether that movement is a fighter or a flying orange.
    It may be useful in a computer that is used in a vision lab, but we're quite far from industrial pattern recognition or image understanding.
    So please don't take commercial ads as truth
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  14. Prices slashed! by Cassandra · · Score: 2

    Just did a quick search, and found out that GVPP isn't exactly new (the article mentions that it was invented in 1992):

    http://www.techweb.com/wire/news/1997/09/0913visio n.html

    Seems the price has gone down "a bit" since '97 though:

    The modules measure 40 mm2, have 100 pins, and can handle 20-MHz video signals. The chip is priced at $960. On a card with a socketed GVPP and 64 kilobytes of Flash RAM, the price comes to $1,500.

    $6 sounds much better to me :)

  15. This is what I need. :) by ruhk · · Score: 2

    This sort of thing is good news for people with seriously degrad(ed/ing) sight like me. Right now I spend nearly $400 on lenses right now before I even start looking at frames.

    The technology isn't good enough for full vision replacement yet but it's only going to improve. What I'd like is 'augmentation' applications:
    - 360deg vision
    - microscope extension that can be
    put into a machine and get a good
    view of the motherboard or components
    - direct output from a video game or computer

    *heh*

    Sign me up.

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  16. Result of years of work by SEWilco · · Score: 3
    Actually the general way in which this level of processing is done has been known for a while. Many years ago signals from frog eyes were being decoded -- signals only from fly-sized moving objects. All this guy did was actually make similar circuitry (several versions, undoubtedly) and figure out how to analyze and use the signals. They've been working on it for a while; 1992 is mentioned, and they first announced devices in 1997.
  17. We wouldn't need this kind of specialized hardware by TheDullBlade · · Score: 5

    ...if the general-purpose hardware wasn't so stupid. Of the millions of transistors on a modern chip, most of them are wasted in maintaining the illusion of sequential operation, while the OS writers go to considerable trouble to create the illusion of parallel operation.

    Furthermore, there are the huge (in terms of transistor count) banks of flip-flops which just sit around most of the time, and the costly layers of cache all working their hardest to maintain the illusion that it is RAM. Meanwhile, software optimizers make sure to access memory sequentially to avoid upsetting this illusion, which would ruin the performance.

    You can justify all this nonsense with the argument that software is written for sequential machines with RAM. It's a circular problem. If somebody would just release a cheap massively parallel system, the programmers would learn to use it efficiently.

    You can make a complete processor in a few thousand transistors (as this guy has done, though he goes a bit off the deep end...), and you can add a bit (a few K) of high-speed RAM and network them easily enough to make a (dare I say it?) Beowulf cluster on a chip. Each might only run at one tenth the speed of a modern CPU, but you could have hundreds of them for the same cost, giving you bips and gflops for the price of mips.

    It would also make the whole design process a lot easier and faster. One simple processor, repeated hundreds or thousands of times. Every advance in production would bring a direct and proportional improvement in performace, with a tiny added design cost. Forget special graphics or sound processors, just plug in more processor banks like you would add memory today and watch your system fly.

    C'mon hardware guys, we software guys aren't that stupid! We don't need your illusion of a 386!

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  18. Visual pathways in the brain by spiralx · · Score: 3

    I'm sure they've done some great work but my personal belief is that it's been subject to a marketing department's hype machine. The vision system in a primate is one of the most complex parts of the brain and is still not entirely understood by neuropsychologists.

    There are three main pathways from the eye - the magnocellular (connected to the rods mainly and used for brightness and motion detection), the parvocellular (connected to the cones mainly and used for colour determination) and the koniocellular (whose function is less well known). These three pathways feed into the V1 area which acts as a feature detector, then into the V2 area, which detects colour features and movement and then into a variety of different areas including the V3 (shapes), V4 (colour) and V5 (motion and positioning) areas, the parietal lobe, the thalamus and the various inferotemporal and interparietal areas among others still being found.

    All of these different areas seem to have some bearing on vision in its entirety, and show just how complex vision is. As such I think that any claim that a company has suddenly perfected a chip which allows complex visual capabilities is suspect until hard facts and experimentation can prove or disprove the claims.

  19. Privacy concerns by srussell · · Score: 3
    This is the sort of technology which we both dread and anticipate. Self-driven cars, (more) intelligent houses, home security, smarter traffic signals... all of the spin-off products from something like this would be great to have around.

    On the other hand, this could also be the basis for technology that tracks where you go and what you do. Under the auspices of controlling crime, criminals could be "flagged" and watched, traffic policing could be automated, etc. Where it gets scary is in who determines what suspicios behavior is, or who qualifies as needing to be watched, or the fact that you are removing the human element from the decision making process of evaluating a crime.

    In the end, both the citizens and the govornment want this kind of pervasive, intelligent, monitoring technology to be ubiquitous. The difference is that citizens want to be able to turn it off.

  20. Re:We wouldn't need this kind of specialized hardw by Animats · · Score: 2

    You can make a complete processor in a few thousand transistors (as this guy (Moore) has done, though he goes a bit off the deep end...),
    (Off topic, but...) Oh, the FORTH chip guy. He's wierd, but very competent. He's into things like generating video signals in real time, in software, to avoid needing a video chip. He used to use an interface with only three pushbuttons as input (no keyboard), with which, by suitable manipulation, you could not only operate a menu system, but program in FORTH. It's worth a look just to see how far minimalism can go. It's not all that useful, but if you architect systems, it's worth seeing his approach.

  21. Re:patently foolish by MattMann · · Score: 2
    actually, I meant it as pure fiction, a satire, so I don't think the quoting rule would apply. I could tell it wasn't structured properly to be totally funny by Slashdot standards: Slashdot abhors subtlety, so I shoulda sprinkled in some smileys and not mixed in a serious point, but I was tired and in a hurry. Also, I was treading on thin ice mentioning one of Slashdot's heroes disparagingly, but I think it was a timely criticism so... sorry it sent you documenting the details of the seeming error.

    I do maintain that it was clever just the same, but I won't hide behind the artist's excuse "if it made you angry, the art was working" because I was hoping to make you laugh. sorry.

  22. Doubt so. by gargle · · Score: 2

    It seems very dubious. Perhaps their parallel system will allow tracking to be done more cheaply and quickly than existing systems, but tracking and vision in general are still, at a fundamental level, very much unsolved problems.

    The human visual system uses countless contextual, knowledge based cues to make sense of the world (e.g. take a look at some optical illusions); even a simple task like tracking requires a lot of background knowledge. To claim that their mimics the human visual system is, frankly, unbelievable.