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.god Domain Names: Another "Pioneer" Registrar
commodoresloat writes: "According to this article, the top-level domain (TLD) .god will soon be available. Most interesting is that Joe Baptista, who will be selling domain names under the TLD, says outright that he will not respect trademarks or even court decisions ordering him to respect trademarks. Does this mean anyone can register microsoft.god?" Available, maybe, but not very useful if ICANN doesn't care to ever recognize them. Note, though, the site is only semi-functional. "The
registry will allow you to look up dot.god names for availability but
it will not allow you to register at this time." Pity. I hope CmdrTaco gets credit.
I suggest that something like the GNUtella approach be applied to domain names. You could search for "Microsoft" and get not only Microsoft,.com but 3712 MSCE's personal home pages, 38 pages of Microsoft jokes, "Windows Millennium Annoyances" and 7253098 Linux sites...
Hm, then DNS would become the search engine, which didn't occur to me when this idea popped into my head... Maybe this idea is way out there, but there it is.
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How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
>"Can I bring my laptop?"
>Yes, but you can only run one of the following operating systems
>Windows 3.0
>Windows NT 3.1
>It is, after all, hell
>DB
ugh.. first time someone actually came close to converting me...
//rdj
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
"Can I bring my laptop?"
Yes, but you can only run one of the following operating systems
Windows 3.0
Windows NT 3.1
It is, after all, hell
DB
yep, it's disrespectful, and that's the whole point of it. the whole domain registration issue has gotten so ridiculous that disrespect is quite a reasonable thing to do. then again, I don't see how that warrants an article; any idiot with an internet connection can run BIND and set up TLDs that no-one else will see unless they use his nameservers.
It seems to me that any one of us fools could start a registry. The fact that no DNSs respect our system hardly matters -- people are willing to pay. I think that news of people starting new TLD registries will soon be like news of people auctioning off things on eBay: the press not realising a non-event when they see one.
This is just stupid.
-Waldo
"Man is certainly stark mad: He cannot make a flea, yet he makes .gods by the dozens." - Montaigne....sort of
If there is hope, it lies in the trolls.
This is probably the beginning of the current centralized naming system. People can set up name resolution on their own computers any way they like. If .GOD becomes popular, people will add it to their name resolvers so that they can resolve URLs that refer to it.
You are probably also going to see little programs that make it easier to reconfigure name resolution statically or even on the fly. In fact, ActiveX components or VBScript "attachments" may be ever so helpful to users to do this automatically.
The main constraint is that if users see a URL, they probably want to be able to resolve the host name to something that exists (but not always--I'd be happy never to resolve the advertisers). That will mean that in the short run, there will remain a core set of name servers that everybody will refer to.
In the long run, browsers will probably almost exclusively use search engines to locate pages, the location bar will disappear, companies will use registered trademarks in ads to allow consumers to locate them ("look us up on the web under FooBar(TM)"), and URLs themselves will be replaced by something location independent. And the dealing in .com domain names will look like tulip mania in retrospect. At least we can hope.
A darker possibility is that, in the process of migrating to a URL-less world, the ISPs will take over name resolution and locating content for you entirely so that you only get to see the pages they want. And it may also be more difficult to get personal or other oddball pages into the directories people will be using.
Lets have a .falco as well.
Then when .coms like boo implode, we just move their registrations over to the .falco TLD.
Whats a Falco ?/a>
...will be the extreme RUSH of people to register sex, football, unix, and god.
ZOMG I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS ON MACINTOSH VERSUS WINDOWS, VI VERSUS EMACS, AND HOW YOU'RE NOT A DORK
I'd much rather see .odd than .god
.allah soon?
Of course, this does leave room for some great domains... wrathof.god, oh.god, iam.god... I wonder, though, if we'll see a
Barring all else, I can't wait to see what the Christian/Catholic community has to say about this...
Of course there are OTHER is.god subdomains.. anybody ELSE have good ones? =)
.- CitizenC (User Info)
Hey! I have a brilliant idea! Why don't we just all agree to use AOL Keywords for everything?
...Joe Baptista, who will be selling domain names under the TLD, says outright that he will not respect trademarks or even court decisions ordering him to respect trademarks.
Well, who does he think he is? God?
I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Burn All TLDs!!! OK, I really, really am serious. We simply don't need them.
Think about it. Companies will always buy their domain name with every possible TLD no matter how many there are. So it isn't like we'll get any more domain names appearing when we create more and more restrictive rules.
Meanwhile, the trademark disputes won't stop. They'll just get more lucrative. What's the point of trying to pigeonhole every site by its Jungian archetype? TLDs like .gov can exist, certainly, but why make those last three letters so important? Let's just open it up.
Anything should be allowed to be a TLD. If coke wants to buy .coke, then fine. We've grown out of this authoritarian need to control everything. Let's just let go, and reorganize at a higher level.
Funny as it sounds Burn All TLDs is really what I think we need to do. Leave it ALL open for everyone. If slashdot wants .slashdot or .flame or .grits, what other than an anal need to organize everything should stop them?
I get the feeling that, like all the other times I have said this, I'll either get moderated into the floor or ignored. But this really is an important thing to think about. We all assign some magic importance to it, but it is just an organizing convention from the prehistoric past.
Arpanet is gone. Time for us to find our names for ourselves.
Well there is always the "of" subdomains. and to
will.of.god
submission.to.god
house.of.god
-Steve
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Had he been a true visionary, he would have started the TLD ".isnotgod"
Example: microsoft.isnotgod
(Off-topic note to CmdrTaco et al.: Fix extrans mode or remove it!)
What do you mean, 'corrup' the root servers? How did the guy from alternic do this? Did he actually have access to modify zones in the root servers? You simply cannot do this, it's not possible. As for this guy... if he wants to create his own tld.. that's just fine. It has no effect unless the root servers dig it... and they don't.
That'd be my choice.
Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
Joe Baptista's domain is on the Realtime Blackhole List for spamming. Check this for full details.
Would it really be his responsibility to be a police-force for Trademark and Copyright infringement?.. Why should a registrar limit the registration of "mcdonalds.god" or "pepsi.god"? Unless these domains are actually used to infringe the copyright, why shouldn't "Joe McDonald" be able to own "mcdonalds.god"?..
.. The internet is not like TV or Radio.. It is a "many to many" medium, more like the phone system.. Do we hold the phone company accountable if someone has a number that could "potentially" infringe on a copyright? (1-800-FAT-FOOD?)
Taking it one step further- even if the site is a parody or direct rip-off of the trademark.. should the registrar really be held accountable rather than the owner?
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air and light and time and space
Spend your money on the damn content. We don't NEED more tld's. We don't even NEED more 2lds..... .com, .net, and .org back to what they are supposed to be, and everyone else, get your ass back to work on CONTENT and FUNCTION.
get working on new directory services for the web, start enforcing DNS registration policies, get
How will having a cool domain suddenly make the content of your site worth something? It won't..
Sure they may in theory help for web searching but generally I hate having to try foobar.com/net/org/gov. Next we will have hundreds of tlds. I say abolish them all. We have language, lets use it. how about http://coke or http://slashdot. Infact most browsers will drop the http:// for you so lets get rid of that too (or make it http by default). If I hear another radio person say "my web site is at:l eyou,doubleyou,dot,shit,com I will.............................................. ........................................ .................................................. ...........................SHIT!
aech,tee,tee,pee,colon,slash,slash,doubleyou,doub
come on how about just plain old shit! that would be much better, no http, no com, gov, net etc.
Thanx,
no sig.
And all system backups must be done onto 5 1/4 floppies...
"The first time I got drunk, I got married. The second time I bought a chimpanzee, after that I stayed sober" Arian Seid
Or perhaps instead of being an idiot, he is insightful. The domain of trademarks is commerce. (Damn overloaded language. Let me try that again...) The concept of "trademark" only exists in relevance to trades. It is logically impossible for a trademark to be violated outside of the scope of commerce. For example, when someone hands a mysteriously burned black rock to a geologist and the geologist says, "That is coke," he is not violating a trademark.
I'm assuming that anything within the .god TLD is implicitly within the realm of religeon. (No, I don't truly and naively believe that's all it'll be used for, but the TLD nevertheless has a purpose, just as .com and .net do.) No religeon (except Scientology *cough*) could have a trademark, could it?
Is the pope going to register a trademark on the word "Catholic"? What's next, copyrighting the bible? Yeah, we have to protect God's incentive to create such works.
I'm an atheist have never witnessed anything supernatural in my life. But if a fiery chariot comes down from the heavens, bearing a being who says his name is "McDonalds", then I'll going to register and sing His praises on mcdonalds.god, and if any megacorp comes looking for me, I'll laugh in their face. This is out of your realm, Ronald!
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NOT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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In this case, it's both. Americans in America are supposed to obey American law, even if the effects of their actions cross national boundaries.
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Got Warez?
core is an independent registrar organization. whatthefuck.com is registered by one Nick Melnick of 2550 Long Lake Road, New Brighton, MN 55112.
he registered it through domainbank.net, a core member.
as soon as core popped up, i went and grabbed sickfuck.org, a domain i had long lusted for, but which my requests for had been previously denied.
down with nsi.
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Got Rhinos?
And think of all the other religions you could have ... .zeus, .thor ...
This one's gonna be too good not to abuse. I can see it now -- atheist.god, i.am.god, $foo.is.god (with $foo as who/what ever), ask.god (hehe confessional! hahaha), find.god (aka 'where's waldo'), etc. The hilarity just may never end.
But first, I've gotta get com.god. I must! hahahahaha
DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL
You're suggesting that, when people are rude an offensive, I should just "deal with it?" I think not.
Don't get me wrong here -- I'm not some crazy overly "PC" bastard. To hell with political correctness. There's a difference between trying to stop people from saying things that might be offensive, though, and asking them to stop saying things that are.
You're right, meanings of words do change. And as it stands right now, "gay" means "homosexual." It does not mean "dumb" or "stupid." People insist on using it that way, though, and the end result is they end up offending people like me. And if you want to take an extremist view, they make the world an increasingly more hostile place in the eyes of gay kids, who hear these comments and think that everyone has something against them, for no good reason.
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"I personal[ly] think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue." -- jbarnett
Joe Baptista is the resident troller of the Domain Policy mailing list. I'm surprised you all fell for it.
Will atheist DNS admins accept it?
Hey, Joe Baptista is a regular poster in the OpenSRS mailing list, doesn't seem like a service someone starting their own gTLD would be using. He seems like a real innovator. He managed to piss everyone in the list off by saying that (essentially) the problem with the internet was poorly written software such as BIND and Sendmail (actually he is pissed because he was RBLed) to the point where Paul Vixie actually joined the list just to post a couple of messages in response.
Sarcasm aside, this guy is 20 pounds of BS in a 10 pound sack.
Maru
There have been several proposals for adding more TLDs - the IAHC International Ad-Hoc Committee was relatively reasonable, ICANN was a bit less so, thoguh that was partly because it was a year or two later so there was more commercial conflict, and Esther (bless her heart) knew it would be a dirty job when she took it. As far as I know, the only proposals for new TLDs that have actually succeeded have been a few new country codes (because there's an existing bureaucracy for that, plus of course the countries who've made a quick buck by renting out their namespace), and Brad Templeton's proposal for
There have also been the disorganized proposals, from people like Kaspureff at Alternic, and the orange.net folks - start an alternative root, and try to convince people to use your root instead of the Big Roots, but they're fighting a losing game. It's partly a losing game because they've been losing (:-), and partly because it doesn't solve the fundamental problem, it just trashes any efficiencies you gain by shoving conflicting names down a layer in the tree so you don't see them if you're not looking for them.
The people who've been successful at pushing new namespaces have taken different approaches - ICQ numbers are a global namespace, and nobody minds because they don't spell anything and the server can cope with the scale. Realnames sells namespace, and people who want it can use it. And all of these things can easily be patched under the DNS tree, e.g. 1234567678.icq.net or mycompanyname.realnames.com.
(Unless I'm mixing up names,) Joe does, however, get Extra Slack points for having been the guy who tied up various Canadian provincial and federal government organizations for a while by constantly faxing them his requests for fair treatment, better laws and regulations, etc.
Bill Stewart
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... L. Ronald McDonald?
Host names should be permanent. They define resources--and not legal jibberish. Legal jibberish can change anytime a judge farts.
Isn't that actually how legal jibberish was created? (At least it's how I was taught in my school.) =)
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
Think Judy Blume would register areyouthere.god?
If you want to do something really useful, modify gethostbyname() etc to use LDAP calls and set up an LDAP naming service.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
root.god/what/is/difference?
Someone needs to register my.god just because it makes a sweet WHOIS lookup. It's perfect for those youngsters who are trying to find myself. Who needs years of self exploration when you can just boot up the box and type WHOIS my.god and get all the answers.
joe.baptista.is.not.god
Got Rhinos?
or of course....my childhood favorite
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -David Hume
You are proving my point. I was saying that you can't copyright the Bible as in the original Bible because
1. It was written by somebody else
2. It is really old
As I already said, translations are different.
As far as a GPL or BSD Bible I wonder if you really understand how offensive that is. The Bible is viewed by believers as Divinely inspired. You can change things around but then it is no longer the Bible, merely a book that bears a resemblence to the original.
As for how peeved people can get, try looking up the history and responses to heresy. I'm not defending either side as Jesus is about love and fidelity to God not the auto de fe, but I suspect you didn't realize the extent of your flamebaiting.
DB
http://god.pccf.net/main.html
It's only a "test registry" at the moment, but it's got links to create/modify/whois.
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".
http://www.templetons.com/brad/domain.html
-p.
the theists have already got a pretty good search engine...
just ask jeez
FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -David Hume
Egos, that's what this is.
.com, .org, .edu- those are all descriptive names for commercial enterprises, non-commercial organizations, and education stuff. But .god? What, you own that domain name, and have supreme power over it? Yay for you.
.god type domain names' There should be freedom, after all. However, I think it would have been better not to come out with .god. THere are so many other combinations of letters, that would be more meaningful.
:-P
Somebody wants to be the god of their own little world, and have everybody know. What other reason is there for such a label?
yeah, it's funny, in a way. It's also very disrespectful and presumtuous. It seems to mock the other names, and anybody who dares believe in higher powers.
I'm not going to say 'No, there should be no
I hope I've done the HTML right.
Starskita
Starskita
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.god is just another step. Who knows what TLD's will come next. . .
More race stuff in one place,
than any one place on the net.