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Usenet Archive from 1981
Brandon Downey writes: "I found this site the other day, after giving up on Dejanews in disgust. (Does
anyone think they don't suck these days?) Apparently, this site's
owner has resurrected a tape archive of usenet posts from 1981-1982.
The site appears courtesy of Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, and David Wiseman, who deserve credit for compiling this utterly intriguing
selection of articles from our past."
What's amazing is not so much how far we've come, but how visionary some of the people then were.
Take this little gem, for instance:
Aallegra.131 net.general utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ihnss!mhtsa!allegra!rdg Thu Nov 12 21:05:29 1981 democracy wouldn't it be great to be able to use this electronic medium to send notes to our government officials? i never seem to write postal letters or telegrams, but we all seem to find these electric notes convenient enough to use often. can you imagine net.reagan with a few authentic replys? The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright© 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.The archive gets better than this though -- there are articles about whether you can be prosecuted for profanity on usenet, copies of the TCP/IP digest volume 1, and even people asking for dice rolling programs for d&d on a vax! Check it out for yourself, it's well worth the read."
Hope this helps,
Rev
Granted, this would suck if you really liked the Usenet archives, but I've never used them. What is the need for them? Is it more of a look back, reread past conversations and what-not? Sorry, I just don't understand the need to have it all archived; it's always nice to have the option, I guess, but it's not an option I've needed/used...
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
Also available at your local neighborhood freshmeat
Usage: fortune -P [-f] -a [xsz] Q: file [rKe9] -v6[+] file1
Aucbernie.2227
net.rumor
utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbernie!daemon
Fri Apr 16 10:38:54 1982
Bill Joy's plans
Bill Joy has decided to become involved with a new startup company and
will be phasing out of the CSRG over the next few months. He will be
joining Sun Microsystems, Inc., a company whose founders include Andy
Bechtolsheim, the designer of the Sun workstation. SMI is one of a
number of companies which plan to offer microprocessor-based networked
workstations running 4.2BSD software.
Bill plans to continue full time until July 1 when an early version of
the 4.2BSD distribution should be complete and running in house. He
will continue half time through its polishing, tuning, beta testing and
documentation phases. Bill expects to finish writing his PhD thesis by
December.
Bill will continue as a contributor and advisor to CSRG, although it
will be a secondary activity for him. While SMI may need to develop
proprietary software in certain specialized areas, Bill expects fixes
to the shared base of 4.2BSD programs which are made at SMI can be
distributed by Berkeley. The current cooperative efforts between CSRG
and various industrial groups are seen as a model for the
relationship.
Bill has been a valued colleague and friend during his years at
Berkeley and he will be very much missed. I hope you will join me in
wishing him well as he makes this transition.
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is"
Vidi, Vici, Veni
This is most likely Morris Sr.... Morris Jr is the worm guy....
http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/NET.rumor/
And here's a reply to the Bill Joy rumor:
Fri Apr 16 14:47:31 1982
To my broker
With reference to the previous rumor (Bill Joy):
Sell Berkeley July futures short.
Buy SMI July long.
Lynn F. TenEyck
unc!lynn
aint that the truth.
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is"
Vidi, Vici, Veni
The entry for "emoticon" in The Jargon File says:
It appears that the emoticon was invented by one Scott Fahlman on the CMU {bboard} systems sometime between early 1981 and mid-1982.
dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
Jillian.
Most of the larger search engines have Usenet search options. The trouble is, none are as yet as big as Dejanews, which, it has to be said, has done a good job of indexing the vast amount of data on Usenet. In the past, that is :-(
"And the meaning of words; when they cease to function; when will it start worrying you?"
For all you know he might be writing on a machine which doesn't have lowercase characters... like... well... god, I have no idea what you would use to connect from your office/whatever in those days...
A Timex Sinclair 1000 desparately soldered togther to emulate an RS232 port?
Unless there were actually VTs which were case impaired....
Maybe a PET which would require switching video modes to see 40 columns of lower case characters.
For instance:
Enjoy.
J.J.
"Old Usenet messages - Starting May 4, many messages posted over two years ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis, and after May 8, all messages posted over a year ago will not be accessible on a temporary basis. We will be taking this opportunity to reconfigure the service that provides messages posted prior to May 1999. Therefore, these messages will not be accessible on the site for some time, possibly a few months. Have no fear: We're committed to bringing these messages back online as soon as possible."
Why they feel they have to "reconfigure the service" is beyond me.
Never meant half of the things I said to you. So you know, there's a half that might be true - G. Phillips
Man, I'll tell ya what.. When I upped from my 300bd modem to a Hayes 2400, WOW! I was in shock at the speed!
Sheesh, now I bitch about my DSL not being up yet and how I have to settle for these lame 52k connections all the time...
No, but here's an ancestor of rec.arts.movie.erotica: review of 'Goodbye Emmanuelle', the 4th of a series of classic softcore movies starring Sylvia Kristel.
net.movies
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That *almost* compiles... it chokes on printw() and when trying to pass a non-prototyped K&R-style function to signal() :-)
* And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced "Mozilla."
i did, but not until circa 85
-a.e.mossberg
How about the first Ponzi scheme?
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Programming, is like sex.
Wasn't there an Ask Slashdot recently about a kid wanting to know how to become a computer historian? This is some of the stuff he should be doing.
-- You see, there would be these conclusions that you could jump to
net.general
uses for this new medium
Thu Nov 11 22:15:01 1981
wouldn't it be great if we could use this new medium for advertisers to send us needless, unwanted messages about their products? Perhaps we could get advertisements for where to find pornography even! Think of the possibilities!
MyopicProwls
MyopicProwls
My homepage
When is Slashdot going to make its archives accessible?
Perhaps an Idea Futures claim may be in order that says "Deja, Inc. will make its full archives accessible sooner than will Slashdot." It sure would be nice to be able to write a present day article and link back to comments/articles in the Slashdot archives.
Over a year ago there was a post on Slashdot about the origin of Deja News and its plausible connection to the NSA. That post is no longer accessible via the web. Deja, Inc., having started in the "Echelon II" building within walking distance of top NSA spook Bobby Ray Inman's MCC and its linguistic data mining spin-off Cycorp in Austin is a story to which comments in this article might like to link if we are to discuss the value of the 1981 Usenet archive in context of the larger problem it is trying to solve:
How to decentralize control of history.
Seastead this.
I remember being able to read all of alt.sex, every day... and it was an intelligent, useful, wide-ranging discussion. Graphics? Only ASCII art! :-) There were few stories; most of the content were Q&A and discussion. Elf was top dog!
I remember when the entire collection of newsgroup names would fit on a single sheet of paper. alt.pathetic-egos-creating-useless-groups hadn't happened.
I remember when everyone used their real EMail address in the FROM: line -- because there weren't any scum-sucking address-harvesting bastards who'd spam your mailbox to death.
And I remember my only access was a teletype terminal...
There are still useful Usenet groups, and they're not even heavily spammed. It's worth snagging a copy of Free Agent and accessing the Usenet from a proper application, instead of those godawfulw web-enabled things like Deja.
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Don't like it? Respond with words, not karma.
Awatmath.1946
net.followup
utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!watmath!idallen
Tue Mar 9 21:49:08 1982
On telling people not to crack security.
It's like avoiding a black market -- either you "license" people under your own roof to play with your system and (possibly along the way...) find holes, or else you tell them not to play and force them "underground". I'd rather find out from people close at hand, that my system has holes. Telling people not to play won't stop holes from being found. It just means they will be found by less friendly people. -IAN!
82.01.08_watmath.1400_net.jokes
Awatmath.1400
net.jokes
utzoo!decvax!watmath!bstempleton
Fri Jan 8 01:31:59 1982
How many USENET people does it take to change a light bulb?
Well, it all depends. If the person decides to change it quietly,
only one. If he mentions it on the net however...
One to have a bulb that needs changing.
One to start up a group called net.lightbulbs.
Another to suggest it should be called net.bulb so subgroups can exist.
Another to post to net.lb and two more to yell at him/her.
Another to post to net.bulb
Mark to claim net.bulb is official.
Another to start up net.bulb.ge to discuss whether General Electric bulbs are the best type.
Another to say that as news administrator of N machines, he should decide the name of the newsgroup.
Two more to suggest that the whole issue of what kind of light bulbs to use be discussed at USENIX.
Ten more to claim that many who won't be at USENIX still use bulbs and that the net is the right place to discuss it.
One person to make a typo and post to net.bulbs.
Somebody in the midwest to claim that since they use exclusively LEDs that their funders would not tolerate system resources being used to discuss light bulbs, and that they will not take or forward net.bulb.
Three members of the ACLU to claim this is censorship and evil.
Two more to defend it as control of resources. One to ask in net.unix-wizards if anybody has a DH driver that can control
an rs-232 lightbulb controller.
Another to insist that no DH on a 780 has lightbulbs attached.
Somebody from the ARPANET to insist that DCA will not fund discussion of lightbulbs that are not DOD approved.
Matt and Mark again to suggest a usenet policy on bulbs.
As you might have guessed, the correct answer is infinite, cause it will never end...
-Brad Templeton
The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright© 1981, 1996
Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.
This space intentionally left blank.
Most disturbing is the net.suicide newsgroup, however. At first I thought it was there for some introspective views on the possible collapse of the internet they were on. Turns out to be a newsgroup where posters want to commit suicide. (When a poster no longer posts to the group, does that mean he's been successful?)
- I don't care if they globalize against free speech. All my best free thoughts are done in my head.
So, are there there any users here at slashdot that did post something to the usenet back then? I imagine it would be funny to find your old posts are read them again :)
You must not use Deja. I personally don't care at all if they use ads to make money, but the fact is that over the last year or two they have altered thier interface as to be almost unusable. Some examples: * Default search not in Usenet discussions anymore. * Attempt to become "consumer product rating site". * Usenet searches messed up (as seen in other posts) A real alternative would be one that held at least a year of useful posts, with a good search engine. Ads would be fine with me, and I'd even pay a small fee for a subscription (I already pay Newsguy for reliable news feeds - it would be nice if they added a good online search capability, I'd pay a bit extra for that). I used to use Deja a lot to look for all kinds of things, but I haven't usd them for over halfa year and am unlikley to return. They forgot what made them popular in the first place, and are now doomed to the fate of all second rate portal sites - it would be nice if someone came along to take over with the original vision.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
On Unix at that time, people's terminal /dev entries were generally writable (unless you did a "mesg n" command). You could send a command to a "smart" terminal that would get echoed back to the Unix system. It would appear that the targeted user had typed the command.
About this time, I found a bug in 4.1BSD that allowed you to bounce commands off a user's terminal without even knowing what kind of terminal they had.
By the way, I have a boring post in this archive. I posted as "unc!jqw", which was an account I had hacked into at that time.
Did anyone else catch this post concerning the new digital audio standard that was just agreed upon by Sony and Philips... Funny how no one (well, at least I don't) remember an encoded "card" which is read by a scanner to play music...- --------------
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:)
sheesh...what prudes.
I'm still working on a clever footer.
From this gem in the net.unix-wizards group:
... What's the straight scoop? What is this magic method? I would appreciate it if you would respond via "mail" instead of broadcasting it.
Wed Mar 3 15:38:05 1982
UNIX security breach
The rootshell: (post contains quote from LA Times)
Computer experts are scurrying to counter what may be the most serious threat to computer security to crop up since the machines were invented.
A group of students at the University of California at Berkely figured out an extremely simple and undetectable way to crack a large number of computer systems and remove, change or destroy the information they contain.
...
[Note: notice the word "crack". At least they got it right back then!]
The script kiddie: (poster asking for the sploit)
Bruahahahaha
EagerEyes.org: Visualization and Visual Communication
Amcnc.1058 net.bugs.4bsd utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!duke!mcnc!swd Wed Feb 10 13:57:15 1982 fp bug?
On our 11/70, this program
double cos();
main() {
printf("%20.20f\n", cos(0.0));
}
prints out
1.00000000000000000000
On our VAX 11/780, it prints
1.00000000000000010000
We are not amused.
Has anyone else encountered this problem and/or fixed it?
We have compared the cos routine on the 11 and the 780 and they are identical.
Aihnss.748
net.jokes
utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!mhtsa!eagle!ihnss!karn
Mon Dec 14 12:36:57 1981
How many computer engineers . . .
One to redesign your house wiring.
One to suggest improvements to the design.
One programmer to scoff because light bulbs will be free in the near future.
Mmmm.. Donuts
< old_guy_voice >
That takes me back... In 1990 I spent 5 grand on a 386 25Mhz with 4MB of RAM and an 80 MB hard drive. It had a 2400 baud modem. I joined a local bulletin board system and had one hour access a day. It cost me a little less than my DSL does now. If I was quick, I could download about one megabyte in that one hour. Telix was the terminal program of the gods - it had ZModem downloads with the ability to resume broken downloads.
A few years later I spent 300 dollars on the Sound Blaster Pro when it came out - it was the first stereo sound card, but was only 8-bit. In 1994 I installed Linux.
Kids these days - you don't know how lucky you are.
</old_guy_voice>
Torrey Hoffman (Azog)
Torrey Hoffman (Azog)
"HTML needs a rant tag" - Alan Cox
the archive is was recorded at about the time i was born, early may '81. this is about as nostalgic as i have ever felt. thankyou, slashdot, for reporting this.
UUCP... notice how a lot of them have !bangpaths.
IB M invents new math
.1 divided by ten is .001, instead of .01. This apparently
happens sporadically, and is the result of a fault in the
output routine, not the calculation. Stay tuned for more
developments as they happen.
After revolutionizing the data processing industry with the 360, IBM is now revolutionizing mathematics. It seems that sometimes the IBM personal computer will tell you that
Gotta love the quote, though: "TCP and IP, the DoD Standard Networking Protocols for the Eighties." How modern yet quaint!
sulli
sulli
RTFJ.
The number of people in this forum bitching about Deja simply astounds me. It is a free service. You pay not one red cent for it. And yet, when they have to take stuff offline for awhile because it would cost to much otherwise, "it's gone to hell" and people start asking for "a good alternative". When they try to add some way to generate income to their service, so they can keep it online and continue to give it away for free, people give up in disgust. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that if that "good alternative" was also a paid service, they'd get precisely zero new subscribers from this forum.
</RANT>
dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
Awatmath.1335
net.jokes,net.news
utzoo!decvax!watmath!bstempleton
Fri Dec 18 22:02:24 1981 The censorship debate
OK : here goes.
*Flame on*
The debate on this topic is astounding. I was a little surprised to see my own site contributing so much of the net.jokes.q material, but I see other sites have made up for their slack. I have a (perhaps mistaken) impression that the people reading this come from a group far more educated than the general public. We are not the general public - we're UNIX programmers, users and students working in high-tech environments. For this reason I am under the impression that ideas like censorship would not be brought up. Censorship, as I see it, is based on a few tenets. One, somebody decides that certain material might tend to deprave or corrupt. That some people might take something under the heading of jokes seriously indicates they are the ones who should get their heads examined. Secondly, censors (in a broader sense) snip because of possible libel. Again, a joke is rarely considered in such terms. Some censors want to snip because material 'offends' them. It's difficult to argue with such people, (not because they have a point, it's just difficult to argue with them) although many have tried. A typical example occured recently at Universities all over Canada
Recently feminists of all sorts tried to close down Engineering society newspapers on campuses. At this university, the society arranged it so they would distribute their paper, Enginews, only to students who came into the society office and showed a valid student card! Despite this, some people claimed they found the material offensive, even though they had to work subversively to get it. (I might add, the paper still publishes)
The netnews is in some forms a 'press', but it is a unique new type. With this system, I can have the computer screen out the smut I don't want to see for me. This gives the censors even less of a leg to stand on because it is now clearer that only those who have asked to read net.jokes.q are reading it.
Ah well, enough tirade. I just hope that this new form of news and discussion distribution does not fall prey to vultures. Those of us on the ARPAnet and usenet are pioneers, in a way, of what may become the main method of news distribution. Let's do it right.
Another note: Somebody suggested signing names. CCA-UNIX has a rather nice and simple mod to their mail which puts the name from /etc/passwd
(entered vi chfn) into a mail message every time. Perhaps something
for this in news might be nice.
Photos of bits of the past hiding in the present: afiler.com
They're mostly from institutions of higher learning or research labs, like MIT, Berkeley, PARC, Bell-Labs, etc. I found a charter post on the Net.Aviation newsgroup from Andrew Koenig of Bell-Labs who went on to write several books on C and C++. I'm sure we can find other prominent figures.
Very interesting stuff here.
-- You see, there would be these conclusions that you could jump to
.. That simply displays, each day, everything that appeared on usenet on the same day in 1981.
--
see shy jo
net.micro
utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!microsof!gordon
Tue Feb 2 09:53:34 1982
XENIX - real UNIX
In response to the characterization of XENIX as a UNIX look-alike, I would like to point out that Microsoft XENIX is the real thing: A superset of Bell V7 UNIX.
We have our 3.0 distribution, and XENIX 3.0 will soon be available. Bell forces us to call it something besides UNIX (the word 'UNIX' can be used only in the context of 'the UNIX operating system'), so XENIX it is.
gordon letwin
decvax!microso
Having worked on XENIX (argh that really dates me), I remember being glad when I first saw this announcement, but not so glad after the company bought a copy. How times change....NOT.
--- Hot Shot City is particularly good.
I propose a consist where the person to find the first request for porn wins (I'm not sure what they win but they do).
I was browsing throught the archives, and they seemed a bit empty. Not from the small number of posts, but more like a big empty hole.
I though about this for a while, then it hit me: the alt.flame, alt.duche-bag, and alt.hairy.duche-bag groups are missing enitrely! Not only that, but no SPAM!
Me, I envy those of you who had the privilage of using the internet while it was still primarily an information source, not a marketing media.
I was only about a year old when this archive was created.
Come test your mettle in the world of Alter Aeon!
tcp-ip@brl
Postel@isif
Geoff@SRI-CSL
The Deja Development Monkey said...
Of course, you shouldn't have to understand, you're just a 'consumer' of the service.
And aren't companies, even dot.coms, theoretically supposed be give at least lip service to the maxim that 'the consumer is always right'? The attitude that "mere consumers" have no need to know why corporate actions are taken is a serious problem generally, and in the specific case of Deja's removal of the Usenet archive, the 'blackout' of information as to why it was done has probably contributed to more ill feelings toward the company than the actual takedown of the archive itself.
Actually, the specific information that you just shared with us is exactly what Deja (and other companies/services) SHOULD be telling their consumers when a major change like the removal of the Usenet archive is done.
People can understand and be tolerant of the considerable issues in moving the company, compacting and transferring the data to new servers, etc... but its hard to have empathy for vague, unjustified 'reasons' and hollow platitudes 'promising' to return the archive... someday... that seem to be stonewalling and cover-up. (Which is basically all that Deja has publicly posted on the subject.)
Thanks for posting, Deja Development Monkey! Your one explanation has been more enlightening than months of emails to the company itself.
Ahh... a few chapters:
1) alt.binaries: Not just for fractals anymore
2) alt.sex.bondage.particle-physics: Quarks turn you on?
3) AOL Sucks, the formative years.
I still really like USENET, though. You just have to be a little more selective about the groups you frequent. ('sci.physics' ain't what it used to be...)
Hmm, so far the longest thread I can find is it NET.movies.
The topic? The rumor that Spock dies in the new Star Trek movie!
Long live geekdom
It was April of 1994. There was spam before they hit, and the term was coined before that. Just no one did it as big as they did and were so blatant about it. Then they got a deal to write a book about it to tell others how to do it, and we all KNEW that usenet would never be the same again.
The book bombed, but others noticed and improved upon the entire idea, much to the chagrin of intelligent netizens everywhere...
utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!microsof!gordon
Geez, even back then, Micros~1 couldn't spell their complete name!
;-)
dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
More like:
Geek 1: "My god. Look at all the eCrap and iWhatever! It's all over the damn place! They actually called website companies 'dot-dot-coms'!'
Geek 2: "Yeah, that's why the marketroids were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
Actually, I thought dejanews (or deja, or whatever) had gone dramaticaly down hill until a couple weeks or so ago when I found that they now have www.deja.com point at their portal-thingy, but www.dejanews.com now points directly to their usenet search. Of course, that doesn't fix everything, but it sure makes things nicer...
Posted from the wireless couch.
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This sig has been temporarily disconnected or is no longer in service
Aqumix.1017 net.micro utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!ittvax!qumix!msc Fri Feb 19 12:18:04 1982 IBM PC I am trying to connect an IBM personal computer as a terminal to my vax. I have the asynchronous communications package from ibm but it is not good.
It is written in basic and is so slow that the speed of writing to the screen is about 600 baud. Also there does not appear to be any way for the vax to erase things from the screen. A backspace code from the vax is sent to the screen as a blotch (actually it looks like a tiny ace of spades). Also it uses a peculiar protocol for transferring files involving XOFF CR and XON CR which I think is going to present difficulties.
Has anyone tackled these problems yet or am I the guinea pig? I think I'm going to have to write a new terminal emulator program which is not in basic. Naturally I would be ecstatic if someone has done it already and could mail me a copy of their program.
As to the pc itself, it is a nice little box and the documentation is pretty reasonable. I have the color graphics controller, the epson printer and controller, a second disk drive, an async comms. card and full expansion of the memory on the mother board.
A word of warning: don't buy one from computerland. Mine was ordered on November 6 last year. In January I received a cpu and a keyboard with the color graphics card and the async comms. card. A b/w monitor and its controller were also ordered but have yet to arrive. We didn't even get a PC-DOS disk with the initial order. We had to badger our local computerland into copying one of their disks for us. The printer didn't arrive until a few days later and the second disk drive only arrived two days ago. A 64k memory expansion card has yet to arrive. Of course I really don't know if the problems are ibm's or computerland's. You have to make up your own mind.
In short the pc was completely unusable when first delivered due to missing key components.
Mark Callow
Canter and Seigal (sp?), sometime in the '92-94 era.<p>
That means that Spam has existed on usenet less than half of its life.
Somewhere around here, I have a C&S tour T-shirt that lists dozens of newsgroups. Funny - I can't even remember what they were posting (legal services, maybe, or a pyramid scheme), but it was like someone had thrown a rattlesnake into a little girl's teaparty... every single newsgroup seemed to drop their subject for a few days, and C&S were the object of revile and prediction of Death of the Net, F@11.<p>
Hehehe... sort of like the cries of dismay when Delphiods got connected to the net ("They'll distroy the culture we've built!") followed by, iirc, the AOLers, and then the Protigians.<p>
Somewhere in me is a little ember of anger for how usenet was destroyed, how all the (intentionally) open unix shell accounts, mail relay points, anonymous mail bouncers, and talk and finger services disappeared.<p>
And yes, I still read usenet, find good articles, and am very self aware that "the good ol' days" weren't as good as memory has it. But the "flavor" of 80's netculture will always be missed by many people who participated. (As, I'm sure 90's will be missed, and 70's nc was missed in the 80's).<p>
--<br>
Evan
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
net.sources
utcsrgv!utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!G:ARPAVAX:mark
Sun Apr 4 15:16:19 1982
pacman/makefile
CC = cc
# DFLAGS = -DUSG -DNODELAY
DFLAGS = -DNODELAY -DMINICURSES
CFLAGS = -O
LDFLAGS =
CFILES = pacman.c monster.c util.c movie.c
OFILES = pacman.o monster.o util.o movie.o
pacman: $(OFILES)
[snip]- index.html
You can find the rest of Pacman listed here:
http://comm unication.ucsd.edu/A-News/NET.sources/NET.sources
Including:
Subject: pacman/makefile
Subject: pacman/pacdefs.h
Subject: pacman/monster.c
Subject: pacman/movie.c
Subject: pacman/pacman.c
Subject: pacman/util.c
What do people have against Deja? I don't see what's so wrong with it... but then again I have low expectations.
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
Complete map of the Usenet in a single post.
/. member? With everyone dating themselves by saying "I was only X years old when these were written" or "I was but a zygote back then," I'm beginning to feel ancient. I like to think that those who post span all age groups, but perhaps it's more skewed toward Generation Y (or whatever - people younger than my generation) than I thought. (For the record, I turned 8 in 1981, old enough to remember but larval enough to be totally unaware of computers until a few years later.)
Dated June 1, 1981. Imagine the time when the Usenet was small enough to sum up in a single ASCII post. It even fits onto one screen. I'm not savvy enough to break it down and analyze it, but someone out there might be able to make a few insightful comments.
Speaking of age, Good God - what is the average age of the typical
Was that out loud?
Well, you could always argue that the demise of UUNET started with the cross posts from fidonet....
Hey! FidoNET was never as bad as Usenet was. Mainly because FidoNET retained the idea of personal responsibility, and if you acted like a flaming moron, you got kicked out. If a particular node was a constant source of flaming morons, that node's feed was cut. A far cry from the anarchy and anonymous posts of Usenet, but it kept things sane.
(And yes, I can still remember my FidoNET node number: 1:324/127.4)
:-)
dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
My ISP's news server is Deja. Check it out: http://galaxy.news.gis.net.
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"I personal[ly] think Unix is "superior" because on LSD it tastes like Blue." -- jbarnett
So I am not the only one who thinks that Deja sucks.
Can anybody point me to a good alternative? Please? I don't understand why there is no other such service, this can't be that hard to build!
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