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KDE 1.94 "Kandidat" released
The folks at KDE e-mailed with the news KDE 1.94 "Kandidat" has been
released. It's the fifth and final beta preview of Kopernicus - which is supposed to ship in the last part of 2000. They also asked folks to use HTTP instead of FTP when downloading it. You can grab it here or read the release for different package formats.
This time is should. A professor from Germany has submitted patches so it should compile flawslely (and run)
Hetz (Heunique)
Except for the times it doesn't, of course.
If you're just downloading something, there are some distinct advantages to HTTP, mainly relating to setup/teardown:
Once you get past setup/teardown, though, both HTTP and FTP are essentially shoving raw bytes down the pipe as fast as they can.
DNA just wants to be free...
man 1 wget
Yes, it requires you have a jre installed, as it uses that to display Java applications.
Actually in KDE 2.0, there are no sleeps in the startkde script. They existed in 1.1.x, to avoid having the computer "race" ahead and load compents too early (out of correct order). They over did the sleep a little bit. KDE 2.0 uses kdeinit to start these processes, and it loads them in the correct order.
Beta 3's been quite stable for me. I've been quite angry about KDE not releasing RH RPMs for beta 4 or 5 - is this some kind of continued fallout over the GNOME Foundation brouhaha?
Hrmpf. Packaging standards, anyone?
The simpler explanation may be that their ftp server is slow while their http server (and possibly squid proxy) is fast?
I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
wget does both http and ftp, and both equally simple. The use of wget is no advantage or reason to favour http.
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Considering that the web/ftp-site is in Germany, well... yes, it is. ;)
Remember many of KDE's developers are European, but, more to the point, 'Kandidat' follows the general predilection of the KDE project to name everything something that starts with a 'K' even if it's a misspelling (Konquerer) or just a 'K' stuck in front of a word in the tradition of 'xblah' (KOffice).
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I dunno if this works or not, but you could try to compile on a x86 machine with a target of alpha. I don't have a lot of experience cross-compiling but it looks like it's as easy as putting -b alpha into CFLAGS... but I'm probably deluding myself with wishful thinking since I need to figure out how to cross-compile to arm soon. ;o
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It's official: I'm a moron. Time for some more coffee...
Your right to not believe: Americans United for Separation of Church and
since when is http://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/distribution/2 .0Beta5/ an ftp link? Notice the "http" designating the URL type.
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did you install to a red hat machine?
The RPMs I found were for Mandrake (lucky for me, since that;s what I use)
Mandrake puts KDE in the "right" place (/opt/kde)
Red Hat for some stupid reason puts kde elsewhere. This has been a sore point for users of KDE on Red Hat for awhile.
I'm downloading now to install on my Thinkpad. If it's nice, I'll put it on my work machine.
-geekd
ok. it's installed onto my Thinkpad, under Mandrak 7.1
it DOES SUCK.
at least with the RPMs provided, it sucks ass. Many many things don't work. Many apps will not launch.
is sucks.
can I say that again? it sucks.
Maybe if I get motivated, tonight I will download the source and try to compile it myself.
-geekd
Because it's just better than Gnome. More mature codebase, less flakey and more stable (at least, the non CVS versions are) than Gnome, and runs a lot faster. Plus, it's C++. Who would want to code a GUI in C?
Lots of people. And that's one reason why GNOME is becoming the "official" desktop and KDE isn't. C++ libs just don't jive with C programs. Especially for libraries, C is the lowest common denominator, and you CAN write GTK+ applications in C++, but you CAN'T write KDE/Qt applications in C.
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As of Beta 4, I still don't seem to have Java or Javascript working in Konqueror
Hurm. Try going to "Settings | Configure | Browser" and turn on Java and JavaScript.
I personally think it should be turned on by default. (And I'm using the 3rd beta, and it's working fine. For later releases, I assume it's still working and disabled by default. YMMV).
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I'm curious why they asked people to use HTTP instead of FTP to download the files. Is HTTP now considered better for file transfer than FTP?
Anyhow, congrats to KDE team for getting one step closer to the release. Your users everywhere thank you for the hard work!
I have no clue how to write a script for CVS (I don't use it.) Isn't stuff like this things that THEY'RE supposed to do?
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Below is a link to a redhat employee's ftp space. He makes unofficial rpms of the latest kde betas. Currently there's 1.93. Hopefully he should have 1.94 up soon (1-2 weeks, from the 1.93 dates).
ftp://people.redhat.com/bero/RPMS/
Has anyone here read the specs for konqueror the kde browser and filemanager? It's really awesome! I say thanks to all the developers of KDE2! You can't imagine how great my relief is to finally have a decent internet browser on my linux desktop. No more restarting netscape, no more waiting for mozilla menus to come up.... Again THANK YOU KDE TEAM! cheers
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why don't you update your packages by cvsup...it's easy and fast. Look out for "cvsup" at the KDE Website cheers Franz
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The arts web site does have a small note that basically says 'arts is in KDE 2.0', and leaves it at that.
I'd like to know if it is compatable with ESD-aware apps, since there seem to be quite a few of those.
A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
It was already implemented in 1.93, but the new config dialog makes the whole thing more comfortable.
Looks like TDYC allready has it packed up and ready for apt. The apt source is:
deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian unstable kde2
Do an apt-get update, then apt-get install task-kde and you're ready to go.
Enjoy. I've been running the kooldown release awile now, so far I like it. Startup is a bit slower than GNOME though. Wonder if that's changed in the latest version...
I'm going to go back in my box and will think within the limits of my box: MS Sucks Linux Good I read too much Slashdot.
*Sometimes* makefiles have a make uninstall option. But that is a slight flaw in the nature of package managment, if there isn't an actual package, things could get messy.
/usr/local/stow and type stow package-name, and stow creates symlinks in /usr/local. Slick. To remove, stow -D package-name, rm -rf /usr/local/stop/package-name
I personally use stow to manage software that isn't part of the distribution. When compiling, --prefix=/usr/local/stow/package-name then build as normal. When it's done, cd to
I'm going to go back in my box and will think within the limits of my box: MS Sucks Linux Good I read too much Slashdot.