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Re:Best Feature - Kontact
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KDE 3.2.0 Released
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· Score: 2, Interesting
It's *not* talking MAPI, and never will. Exchange >= 2000 can WebDAV for that purpose, that's also what Ximian uses. And it's just well documented at MSDN. We just lack people that actually use Exchange and are willing to volunteer. If we had them, thing would be likely to go a lot faster.
I read both quite carefully, the EU as as well as the German one and I came to the following conclusion:
The EU one does not:
go in-depth
contain retability calculations (which points out a very significant strength of OSS: the price)
is mostly a (quite incomplete) listing of solutions, especially in the groupware or database area (Kolab, SAB-DB?)
Another important aspect of the German migration guide was that it always kept the comparison to the "continuing migration" which shows the trade-offs and advantages of OSS migration and thus gives a balanced picture. I can't really blame the EU guide for this, since it simply didn't have this goal.
But I think there is a very significant point of critisism left: The German migration guide had co-authors from experts (see co-authors section in the PDF for reference), which ensures that the descriptions are more in-depth and exploit all features of new version (This is very important for Samba for example. The EU guide is more a list of applications with features listed "as advertised". The EU left out Debian completely. While I am not a Debian zealot, I know of quite some successful migrations to Debian and the German migration guide acknowledges this. It doesn't take a RHAS or SLES to migrate to Linux!
This is all being worked on for KDE 3.2. In fact, LDAP support for KMail is already in CVS.
Re:Kolab and Kontact, I'm confused.
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Kroupware Komplete
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· Score: 2, Informative
From "http://kontact.kde.org/faq/":
Kontact, Kolab, Kroupware... I get confused. What's the deal?
Kolab is a groupware solution consisting of a server and a client part as well as an optional binding for Microsoft Exchange, Kolab was developed by a consortium of the three companies Klarälvdalens Datakonsult (Kolab Client), Erfrakon (Kolab Server) and Intevation (project management, QA) which were contracted by the german Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) after winning a formal bid for a groupware solution.
While the Kolab Server has been designed from scratch using well-known free software server components, the Kolab Client which is based on KDE 3.1's KMail, KOrganizer and other components could not be redesigned from scratch to allow a generic groupware approach due to a lack of time. While the client is pretty stable and works reliably and does what it is supposed to, the Kolab Client is too specialized to ship with KDE
Therefore its functionality will move into Kontact. It aims to replace the Kolab Client with its initial stable release. Furthermore, it aims to support other groupware servers such as Microsoft Exchange 2000, SuSE Open Exchange, OpenGroupware.org, etc.
This also points out a very important thing: There was no sponsoring. It was a very normal contract, just based on (mostly exisiting) Free Software. This is important because they want the solution in-house, rather then saying, "Do the world a favor and we pay it" (Yet it's nice that others can profit from it, but that's normal with Free Software, isn't it?:).
Basically, the idea isn't bad. I am just wondering how realitic the idea of plugins is. For example I am using Konqueror. Although it has a fairly cool plugin system,
I wonder if anyone will ever write a plugin for it.
Wired states that "New.net would distribute a small browser plug-in", so I conclude that those will not be open source. That makes me wonder what will happen to alternative or simple (lynx) browsers.
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It's *not* talking MAPI, and never will. Exchange >= 2000 can WebDAV for that purpose, that's also what Ximian uses. And it's just well documented at MSDN. We just lack people that actually use Exchange and are willing to volunteer. If we had them, thing would be likely to go a lot faster.
Daniel
I read both quite carefully, the EU as as well as the German one and I came to the following conclusion:
The EU one does not:Another important aspect of the German migration guide was that it always kept the comparison to the "continuing migration" which shows the trade-offs and advantages of OSS migration and thus gives a balanced picture. I can't really blame the EU guide for this, since it simply didn't have this goal.
But I think there is a very significant point of critisism left: The German migration guide had co-authors from experts (see co-authors section in the PDF for reference), which ensures that the descriptions are more in-depth and exploit all features of new version (This is very important for Samba for example. The EU guide is more a list of applications with features listed "as advertised". The EU left out Debian completely. While I am not a Debian zealot, I know of quite some successful migrations to Debian and the German migration guide acknowledges this. It doesn't take a RHAS or SLES to migrate to Linux!
This is all being worked on for KDE 3.2. In fact, LDAP support for KMail is already in CVS.
From "http://kontact.kde.org/faq/":
:).
Kontact, Kolab, Kroupware... I get confused. What's the deal?
Kolab is a groupware solution consisting of a server and a client part as well as an optional binding for Microsoft Exchange, Kolab was developed by a consortium of the three companies Klarälvdalens Datakonsult (Kolab Client), Erfrakon (Kolab Server) and Intevation (project management, QA) which were contracted by the german Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) after winning a formal bid for a groupware solution.
While the Kolab Server has been designed from scratch using well-known free software server components, the Kolab Client which is based on KDE 3.1's KMail, KOrganizer and other components could not be redesigned from scratch to allow a generic groupware approach due to a lack of time. While the client is pretty stable and works reliably and does what it is supposed to, the Kolab Client is too specialized to ship with KDE
Therefore its functionality will move into Kontact. It aims to replace the Kolab Client with its initial stable release. Furthermore, it aims to support other groupware servers such as Microsoft Exchange 2000, SuSE Open Exchange, OpenGroupware.org, etc.
This also points out a very important thing: There was no sponsoring. It was a very normal contract, just based on (mostly exisiting) Free Software. This is important because they want the solution in-house, rather then saying, "Do the world a favor and we pay it" (Yet it's nice that others can profit from it, but that's normal with Free Software, isn't it?
This is the first version of a GUI toolkit that has it's own song as mp3. Very nice cover indeed and a funny idea.
Basically, the idea isn't bad. I am just wondering how realitic the idea of plugins is. For example I am using Konqueror. Although it has a fairly cool plugin system, I wonder if anyone will ever write a plugin for it.
Wired states that "New.net would distribute a small browser plug-in", so I conclude that those will not be open source. That makes me wonder what will happen to alternative or simple (lynx) browsers.
It was already implemented in 1.93, but the new config dialog makes the whole thing more comfortable.