New Baby in the Torvalds Home

Celeste Amanda Torvalds was born at last night, at 8:25pm pacific time. She weighs in at 7lbs 5 oz. Congrats to Linus, Tove, Patricia and the fam.

Comments

Re:Except its not 2.0!

[Cyberdyne]

Your such a jerk! A guy goes and has a baby and you slashdot his web server! Nice going, I hope your happy.

It should be OK - Linus is running IIS 5 with the latest Service Pack, so it can hold up to any load. ;-)

Re:Except its not 2.0!

[aonifer]

Shame on you. Are you suggesting she's unstable?

Aren't most babies? Most of the ones I've been around almost constantly dump core.

Re:Except its not 2.0!

[ConceptJunkie]

She was 2.1 until the, er, blessed event.

Seriously, congrats to Linus! I have four kids and they are truly a blessing.

Obligatory schedule comment

[slickwillie]

At least this was delivered on time.

Is This Like The Next Christ?

[nuintari]

Can we all start waving penguin flags, chanting tux has come again, and rejoice that a golden age is upon us yet?

Re:DNA test

[jonfromspace]

Do you think Linus will Open Source the familiy DNA?

Think of all the different versions of Linus...

So where is the kernel?

[Ektanoor]

Well somewhere I read that Torvalds mentioned that when his daughter will be borned then the new 2.4.0 would come also up "very soon".

Anyway congratulations to the big daddy. His wife gave him two daughters and the computer a penguin.

Re:obligatory wise cracks.

[Zachary Kessin]

> I'd like me a beowulf cluster of these...

OK but you get to change them *ALL*.

Mozel Tov to the Torvolds' Family!

The Cure of the ills of Democracy is more Democracy.

Re:RMS and baby announcments

[Bob Uhl]

I'm all for those who don't wish to have children. It means less competition for me and mine. One thousand years from now, they will not only have no legacy: their very names will be forgotten to history. My descendants, OTOH, will be a mighty number, as will those of every one of us who has them.

A man may be remembered in two ways: his work or his posterity. His work will pass away and fade, and soon he will be nevermore recalled. His posterity wil honour him forever by its very existence.

Those who wish their lines to end with their deaths are free to do so. For what purpose did their ancestors live, though? Indeed, for what purpose do they live? Millions of years of evolution leading to a dead end: a selfish, miserable, pewling wretch. More power to him.

My congratulations to Linus. I wish him and his wife the very best. His children are certain to excel. He must be a very proud father.

Re:one question

[lizrd]

Motif isn't so popular anymore. I'd suggest doing the room in Qt though some around here seem to have a strong preference for Gtk.
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Re:Except its not 2.0!

[matman]

www.cs.helsinki.fi runs Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.6.2 OpenSSL/0.9.5 on Linux

Re:Except its not 2.0!

[Starship Titanic]

It's not 3.0 either. See, Linus is 1.0. Kid #1 is Linus 2.0. Kid #2 is Linus 2.1. GrandKid #1 is Linus 3.0.
Shame on you. Are you suggesting she's unstable?

Re:You thought YOUR caffeine intake was bad

[Ranger Rick]

Sure there will, it'll just be usleep(). :)

1st Law Of Networking: Loose ends are bad, termination is good.

Syntax

[gregh76]

make mrproper
make config
make dep
make clean
make baby
sleep 23328000
make clean
make install
make modules
make modules_install
make diaper
make clean
make diaper
make clean
make diaper
make clean
...

Re:A Blessing for the Blessed

[laborit]

. . . and may the Slashdot 2017 equivalent of Natalie Portman trolls completely ignore her existence.

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Go ahead, blame me... I voted for Nader!

is the baby gpl compliant?

[jmahler]

sorry, figured someone had to ask that here, so i did it... congratulations, enjoy this for all it's worth! sleep is probably a moot point for about the next year, but hey... who needs sleep, right?

Great. One of a kind.

[brianvan]

It's wonderful that RMS won't have any children. We didn't need any more extremely rude, heartless bastards in the world that are capable of sending letters like this.

And to think, I didn't think I could have a lesser opinion of him being that I already considered him a mentally insane, socially isolated, thoroughly unpleasant radical communist hippie. Now I have found that it was possible.

Of course, I'll get modded down for my ruthlessness, but I'm allowed to have my informed opinion. I see everyone talking about him as a great man around here... in my eyes, he's simply a man of accomplishment and a man of strong opinions. However, a great man he is not. Great men probably wouldn't flame others over baby announcements.

Re:Great. One of a kind.

[nspeare]

The truth is hard, isn't it?
Face facts, nobody cares about you, your children,
or your grandmother. I'd bet that the person
who originally sent out the birth announcement
sent it to every other mailing list that s/he is subcribed to. RMS is totally on the mark;
we don't need stupid people who don't know
how to stay within the scope of a mailing list
spawning children left and right.

Re:Great. One of a kind.

[Goonie]

I didn't think I could have a lesser opinion of him being that I already considered him a mentally insane, socially isolated, thoroughly unpleasant radical communist hippie. Now I have found that it was possible.

Can't you differentiate between RMS the thinker and programmer, and RMS the person? While I don't know him personally, I don't think he'd be much of a drinking buddy, but that doesn't stop me admiring his work.

I see everyone talking about him as a great man around here... in my eyes, he's simply a man of accomplishment and a man of strong opinions.

To me those two traits, particularly if those accomplishments and opinions are truly exceptional contributions towards the greater good (and RMS's arguably get close to that), put you well on the way to one form of "greatness".

Re:Great. One of a kind.

[cheekymonkey_68]

It's wonderful that RMS won't have any children. We didn't need any more extremely rude, heartless bastards in the world that are capable of sending letters like this.


So he's a bit opinionated...there are quite a few intellectual programmers who through social isolation, arrogrance and ignorance manage to upset people with their opinions

But that does distract from their acheivements and the good they bring to soceity through their innovations.

Whatever his personal opinions he should be remembered for his GNU manifesto and above all else for EMACS.

For EMACS alone I would forgive him anything.

Incase you think I'm a heartless bastard myself for defending him, I became a Dad myself last summer and I feel able to judge myelff a 'family man'

obligatory wise cracks.

[Cedric C. Girouard]

Now, that's news for nerds and stuff that matters. 1st, congratulations to both parents.


Now, for the questions :
1- Is the baby going to be open sourced ?
2- Is this going to delay the release of 2.4 ?
3- I'd like me a beowulf cluster of these...


Mod me down if you must, but I at least made myself chuckle writing this one.

Re:obligatory wise cracks.

[ksheff]

3- I'd like me a beowulf cluster of these...

I believe this is daughter #3, so it looks like Linus & Tove are working on that. =)

Congrats

[Private Essayist]

Congrats to the Torvalds family!

So in accordance with the Open Source philosophy, are we gonna, um, see how this release was accomplished?
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Nope

[redhog]

Nope, they had 9 moth of delay...

New from Norway Torvalds 2.0!!

[powerlord]

AP - Today the U.S. unveils its road plan to maintain a technical lead over the rest of the world. The announcement of Torvalds 2.0 is heralded by some as a much needed replacement of an already old component. Others commented that you should never trust a 'dot' release, and that while they might be interested in Torvalds 2.0 in the future, it is currently much too immature to transfer mission critical responsibilities to. In any event, the fact that there is continued development in the Torvalds 'family' of products is happy and good news for all.

I guess this proves at least one thing....

[wynlyndd]

...there is at least one Linux geek "getting some". Hmmm...on second thought, DNA test please?

Re:Woah..

[PD]

Nope, more like 23 people.

Check out the birthday paradox, and please don't write any code that needs to be secure. Thank you.

http://www.cut-the-knot.com/do_you_know/coincide nce.html

Re:RMS and baby announcments

[grappler]

like, huh? I'm confused - I would have maybe marked that as funny, but not interesting or insightful (the two marks it has at the time of this writing). Are you actually serious? do you actually care if your name is around in a thousand years? I'd hope that the race is still around and that quality of life has improved (or at least not worsened), but I don't care about putting some people with my name into the "competition". I'm not aware of any great purpose in life. Perhaps you are and would like to share? Personally, I'd like to see people with a high degree of intelligence and something to contribute and the ability to be a good parent have children, and everyone else get their tubes tied. Therefore, I of course wish the Torvalds family the best.


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Re:A Blessing for the Blessed

[mOdQuArK!]

All I can say, is after her mother gets done teaching her martial arts, nobody better tease her on the playground about her father being a geek...

RMS and baby announcments

[FattMattP]

This reminds me of an amusing email from RMS on the evils of Natalism

The Context:

The kabuki-west mailing list is for planning dinners and get-togethers the San Francisco Bay Area. Somebody made the horrible mistake of posting a baby announcement, and RMS replied, at his finest.

RMS's Natalism Flame:

Date: Sun, 21 Feb 93 15:14:50 -0500
From: rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman)
To: mcuddy@ctbu.rational.com
Cc: kabuki-west@mica.berkeley.edu
Subject: Another mcuddy..

Could people please not use this list to announce information of no particular interest to the people on the list? Hundreds of thousands of babies are born every day. While the whole phenomenon is menacing, one of them by itself is not newsworthy. Nor is it a difficult achievement--even some fish can do it. (Now, if you were a seahorse, it would be more interesting, since it would be the male that gave birth.)

Following your example, I might send the list an announcement whenever a new GNU program is written. That happens less often than babies are born, it does the world a lot more good, it reflects more conscious creativity and hard work, and some of the readers might actually find the information useful. Even so, I think most of the readers would consider this outside the scope and purpose of the list. Clearly that goes double for babies.

Of course, we have another place for announcements of new GNU programs. If some people like to read birth announcements, perhaps you should set up a suitable list or newsgroup. Perhaps rec.births? (While you're at it, start rec.deaths for obituaries--they're usually more interesting to read.)

These birth announcements also spread the myth that having a baby is something to be proud of, which fuels natalist pressure, which leads to pollution, extinction of wildlife, poverty, and ultimately mass starvation.

Perhaps the people who have decided to have no children should start making proud announcements, so as to set a better example. I could start. I'm sure everyone on this list will be glad to know I don't plan to reproduce myself.

Re:RMS and baby announcments

[/dev/kev]

I see. So, you selfishly wish to further your own genes and traits as a method of continuing your own existence past your death, and this somehow makes you better than RMS? RMS has done a substantial amount for the good of all people in his GNU software, but somehow anyone who can have kids is doing more than that?

Let me ask, how many people are aware of your work in producing offspring? How many aware of RMS's work? What has your producing offspring achieved, for the good of humanity? What was your 6th generation gradnfather's name? Was he anything like you? Will your 6th generation grandchildren know who you were? Will they know what you did? Will they find that you had children in any way remarkable? Will any of your traits be recognizable in them, or will they be diluted from all your descendants mixing to produce more descendants? Your descendants may be huge in number, but they're also a lot of other people's descendants.

Those who wish their lines to end with their deaths are free to do so. For what purpose did their ancestors live, though?

Same as you, to selfishly propagate their genes. Perhaps you should be so lucky that a descendant of yours may do something worthwhile with their life, rather than just sustaining and reproducing.

Indeed, for what purpose do they live?

To make a difference, to help people other than those directly related to them. To do something with their lives, rather than just try to be "remembered" by reproducing. Just about anyone can reproduce (as evidenced by the large number doing exactly that), but not just anyone can change the world.

Millions of years of evolution leading to a dead end: a selfish, miserable, pewling wretch.

How is *your* end any better than his?

I find it highly ironic that RMS is fighting to secure the freedoms and rights of society, for people just like your kids.

Aim to find meaning in your life through yourself, and your own actions, not your offspring. Don't worry about being remembered because in the end, everyone and everything will be forgotten, and those who count will be the ones who made good use of their time here.

And of course, I have no objections to anyone having kids, only to those who think doing so makes them better than people who choose not to. Congrats to the Torvald family.

Re:RMS and baby announcments

[Poligraf]

Hmmm, let's look at the history.

Do you know much about children of Einstein and Socrat, Sun Tzu, Paracelsius (sp?) and Thomas More? You know about Judy Garland's daughter only because she is Lisa Minelli.

By your logic Eastern shahs and emperors with their hareems and numerous offsprings should be the ones who made the biggest difference!

Sure, some of their heirs became important or so, but most of them were just a miserable "consumers", wasting their lives in luxurious idleness (I remember Stalin's children as modern example). History had played jokes with them, and many of them were killed when the new dynasty conquered the throne. But somehow only the founder of the dynasty left some memories of himself in the history in most cases.

How will you look in the mirror, and what will you tell yourself when you learn that you daughter became a lesbian and your son is sterile and second son dies for his country (hopefully, nothing of that will happen to you) if you consider them your only legacy ???

One famous Soviet writer said that you can' stay in history forever, but you can linger there for a shorter or longer term depending on you.

All that said, I don't think that being childless/monk is a virtue. It is just that I don't consider spawning a virtue. When having a baby you just give a new human a chance to achieve something in this life and spend a lot of time, money and effort trying to educate/train/indoctrinate him or her into success. You can succeed, you can fail, but don't hope that your greatgrandchildren will proudly display your bleaky photo on the wall of their house and remember your name unless you deserved it by your hands and/or brain, not by your crotch ;-)

Read the Misantropic Bitch at bitch.sutdown.com
It's pretty interesting and funny reading on this topic ;-)

Re:RMS and baby announcments

[/dev/kev]

That would only be if RMS was allowed to *ahem* "help" in the creation of Celeste... ;)

Re:RMS and baby announcments

[Ektanoor]

"These birth announcements also spread the myth that having a baby is something to be proud of, which fuels natalist pressure, which leads to pollution, extinction of wildlife, poverty, and ultimately mass starvation."

For those who call RMS a "damn b*** commie agent".
You're WRONG!
He is an anti-communist! Worse he is DAMN ANTI-COMMUNIST!!!!

What is written here is almost a citation of what communists named the evil of capitalism ideology: Thomas Malthus. Even some capitalists named thsi guy a "damn reactionary b***".
Well, so long for the theories that RMS "came from the cold"...

This could get interesting.

[TBHiX]

First, obligatory congrats.

Now, consider the probabilities here...

1. Her Dad is Linus. This means she's likely to have better than average intelligence and, quite probably, excellent coding skills. And if she gets even a fraction of his personality, she'll have charm.
2. Her mom is a martial arts champion. This implies she'll probably learn to open the really big cans of whoop ass. ;) from what I've seen, she'll probably be a looker too.
3. Thanks to her old man working for Transmeta, she'll probably have access to enough funds to fully realize her potentials.

Conclusion? Man, forget John Connor. When Microsoft accidently gets involved in that super-secret Skynet project, and the Terminator units come for our collective asses, this is the person I'm expecting to save humanity. ;)

I'd elaborate, but the voices in my head say they're coming to give me some of those pretty pills again and I have to go hide.

-TBHiX-

Argh. Hero worship

[Merk]

Of the tens of thousands (?) of current Slashdot readers, who here has ever talked to Mr. Torvalds? I'm not saying "who has seen him onstage at a trade show", or "who has been part of a mailing list he writes on", but who has talked to him one-on-one, face-to-face? Who knows him well enough to consider him a friend?

Ok, now the rest of you. Why do you care that he just had a kid? Is this any different than following hollywood celebrity gossip? What difference does it make to you that he just procreated? I'm sure at this point he doesn't mind having his new baby announced on Slashdot, but that's because it's good, happy news. If he has a vasectomy next week will that show up here?

He may be an amazing programmer. I don't know. I have never seen any code he's written himself. In fact, I don't particularly care to see code he's written just because he wrote it. To me it seems pretty unhealthy to fixate on one person like this.

Let the man share his personal life with his family and friends and look to your own personal life instead.

Congrats!

[VivianC]

Congrats Linus and Family!

From one geek to another, here is a simple statement on babies:

They start simple: Input, Output
As they get older, they add more functionality.

Best of luck!

(From the co-creator of Kayleigh 0.45)


Viv
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I Use Napster. I use DeCSS. I buy over $1000 a year in CD/DVDs.

A Blessing for the Blessed

[doublem]

May she have her father's brains and her mother's looks,

The beauty of Venus and a love of Penguins,

The mind of Einstein and the fluency of Shakespere,

And may she be as loved and admired in the field she chooses as her own Papa.

May her parents have infinite patience,

The time to spend with her,

The wisdom to raise her

The courage to teach her that which she needs to know,

And may they be as proud of her accomplishments as if they were their own.

Congratulations Mr. Torvalds.

www.matthewmiller.net

copyright issues?

[aozilla]

I hope the child wasn't "conceived on company time or using company equipment". That would fall under a work for hire. So think twice people before you have those office romances.

Why Celeste?

[Jonathan]

It doesn't seem to be a Finnish or Swedish name -- does Dana Sobel's "Galileo's Daughter" have anything to do with it?

Re:Horrible pun

[zCyl]

Nah, they would have had to rename her once she started "developing".

Except its not 2.0!

[Baloo Ursidae]

Umm, no. This would not be Torvalds 2.0, rather, it would be Linus 3.0. If you go to his homepage, you can see Linus 2.0. No pictures of 3.0 yet, or the source photos. 8;o)

one question

[small_dick]

does celestes' room have a penguin motif?

no shortage of stuffed toys, i bet.

Congrats...

[pointwood]

Congratulation from a Danish citizen!

Greetings Joergen

And of course the inevitable...

[ChenKenichi]

It is 2018. Two houses, both alike in dignity, in fair Redmond where we lay our scene...

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Re:Meanwhile, Linus' other creation is festering.

[spankenstein]

2000 - 1991 = 9

Simple math

Horrible pun

[dmuth]

I'd have thought that they would have named her Minix. :-)

Re:DNA test

[slickwillie]

In a related story, Bill Gates said Microsoft has a patent on making babies. "Hey, I had one before Torvalds. It clearly a rip-off of Microsoft's intellectual property. We plan to pursue this in the courts. We are especially concerned about infringements on our gooey interface."

So now can Torvalds be a US citizen?

[nharmon]

Since his daughter was born in the United States, can this be a valid reason to grant Torvald's citizenship?

Re:So now can Torvalds be a US citizen?

[SquadBoy]

She is a citizen by default. Unemployed people on welfare have been able to stay because of this. IANAL but my wife is from overseas and I have talked to those wonderful (not) people from the INS more that I care to admit. IMHO if he plays it right yes it could.

Re:So now can Torvalds be a US citizen?

[Docrates]

hmm, what makes you automatically think that he WANTS to be a US Citizen? maybe he had said so and i missed it, but i'd rather be finnish (sp?).

and please don't mod me down as a troll, i AM entitled to my opinion even if it is not wanting to be a US Citizen (I'm already an American because I live in the American Continent).

Re:Oh no!

[Mike Schiraldi]

Linus is forking!

Well, yes, that's where babies come from.

Oh, you said forking
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Children of Thomas More!?

[Pseudonymus Bosch]

Do you know much about children of Einstein and Socrat, Sun Tzu, Paracelsius (sp?) and Thomas More?

What do you mean? He was a Catholic bishop!!
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Re:Children of Thomas More!?

[Bob Uhl]

More was not a bishop, but a politician. He had at least one kid, a daughter IIRC. He is a catholic saint, due to his martyrdom at the hands of Henry VIII, but He was never a bishop.

Re:Children of Thomas More!?

[Pseudonymus Bosch]

True, he married twice and had three daughters and a son.
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quick rant

[fluxrad]

if the thread digresses, you can't mod someone down for being fucking off-topic. you think the dicaprio reference had anything to do with Linus' baby in the first place????????

these are the same moderators that think people who say shit you can't make sense of are "deep"

mod this one down too. i got karma to burn.


FluX
After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network

Open Source?

[Trinition]

Keeping in mind the opens ource ddevelopment model, how many developers contributed to the development of the baby?

Re:Lazy fuck

[Anonymous Coward]

I've heard he manages remarkable uptime.

oh great . . .

[buster hyman]

another fork in the distro!

God forbid she's BSD licensed Re:Congrats

[StandardDeviant]

Let's all just hope for Linus' sake that she didn't come under the Badly Soiled Diaper license... ;-) A kid could turn out to be a real devil under those circumstances...

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*sniff* ... *sniff*

[Zildy]

You just know that Linus will be trying to find ways to make changes to his latest release once it starts "dumping core".

Zildy

Re:I agree

[pallex]

"...when Maggie gets scanned..."

Its a number, its supposed to be what it costs to bring up a child, for a week. Heard that in an interview with Groening.