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Bush And The Tech Nation

How will the new President affect the tech universe? In short: Fat times in the Corporate Republic, and possible abandonment of the Microsoft prosecution. Big media, telcom and chip-maker CEO's: go out and play, boys. The feds may go after "hackers" again, as Bush I did. Digital civil liberties issues will heat up as the Net Culture Wars return with a vengeance. Scientific research and politics will mix, as with RU-486 and some gene mapping issues. Open, de-centralized, bottom-up Net media will mushroom. Good times for tech defense workers and the makers of blocking software. Jump in with your own predictions.

If recent statements by George W. Bush and his advisers give any indication, we're in for a bumpy flight. The new regime may signal a new era by walking away from the antitrust victory the Justice Department won against Microsoft last year. And that's just one of the questions about how the new administration, particularly its distinctly non-tech, old-school, ferociously ideological Attorney General-designate will view technology, morality and cyberspace.

The handful of Presidents recent enough to experience it have held distinctly different attitudes about online technology, especially the Net and the Web -- and those views have had demonstrable impact. There hasn't been a President yet who spent much time online, or whose life and work was shaped by it, even as it becomes more central to the lives of millions of people. Clinton, according to several profiles of him, barely used a computer at all.

"If you think the Clinton/Gore crowd struggled with technology, wait till you get a load of these people," a Washington Post reporter who covers tech issues told me last week. "They think the Net is another planet. There is absolutely nobody high up in this new administration who is familiar with the Net, and when they do hear about it, it's all hackers and perverts. It's going to be weird, I promise you."

It's not hard to believe.

The Reaganauts (and their Bush II successors) tended to see technology as an alien, menacing new reality -- especially in terms of moral danger and challenge to authority. They were particularly phobic about hacking and online porn. Ed Meese's Justice Department conducted an infamous series of raids on suspected hackers while repeatedly characterizing the Net as a haven for perverts and thieves.

Kevin Mitnick and his demonized colleagues scared the wits out of these people, who tried to make an example of him and others by funding federal computer law enforcement projects and by treating them as vicious criminals. Bush Sr. was, by many accounts, a technophobe who saw the Net as a curious playground for academics, hippies and errant teenagers.

The Clinton administration had a spotty record on copyright and certain free speech issues, but was more sophisticated. If nothing else, they grasped the business implications of the Net and Web, and decided to do nothing to impede the new global economy they envisioned and benefited from politically. Al Gore may have overstated his commitment to universal technology -- the administration sure didn't build any true info superhighway, or even try -- but they did get that the Net was an especially free environment that didn't need much regulation, and would grow and prosper on its own.

The Clinton people did plenty of posturing for phobic Boomer parents and right-wing Luddites. If they were sympathetic to the Net's business possibilities, their commitment to digital civil liberties was less consistent.

They paid lip service to a couple of blatantly-unconstitutional Communications Decency Acts, and promoted V-chips, TV and movie ratings systems, and the equally idiotic Clipper Chip, knowing the courts would laugh them down. They pandered a lot, and they probably knew better. It also didn't seem to bother them that corporations were agressively moving to control cyberspace, wantonly invading privacy and altering the free architecture of the Net in the process.

Further, because of the administration's close Hollywood ties, it backed the noxious Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) to help rescue the record companies. In the context of the Net, this is a huge black mark against the outgoing administration, as was the FTC's rolling over for the hideously anti-competitive AOL/Time-Warner marger.

Still, the Clintonians came to have a comparatively sophisticated grasp of tech issues -- a number of Clinton cabinet appointees were online quite a bit -- and little real relish for undermining free speech. They really never seemed to fall the idea that games, movies and the Net were destroying the young and spawning violence. And they kept politics out of science.

The vibes from the Bush administrations seem to suggest otherwise. President Bush and his appointees have made clear that they do see technology primarily in moral terms -- as something children need protection from more than exposure to. Bush's HUD secretary has already ordered a safety review of the much safety-reviewed anti-abortion pill, RU-486. It will be interesting to see how they reconcile thise "pro-life" view with their policies towards the bio-tech industry, which is enthusiastically going about the business of altering (and pre-selecting) forms of human life in fertilization proceedures.

Crusaders like Bush-buddy William Bennett and Vice-President Cheney have long and loudly argued that the Net is rife with pornography and violent imagery, that it is addictive and obsessive, that popular culture promotes immorality and violence. The new Attorney General agrees. Predators and pornographers and rare acts of violence will be seized on and exploited. A key element of the reviving Net culture was is the idea that video games -- along with sexual imagery and a whole range of other things online -- are literally dangerous, even responsible for tragedies like Columbine. Look for the FBI to be given broader authority to track dangerous and illegal activities online and creater a "safer" environment in which businesses can operate.

Universal access to technology is not a Bush administration priority. Gore talked about it, but didn't do much. Only one fifth of kids in families with incomes of less than $20,000 had access to a home computer, compared with 91% of those in families with oncomes of more than $75,000, according to the David and Lucile Packard Foundation (study not yet online). Neither Gore nor Bush mentioned this issue during the presidential campaign, or in any of their debates. Bush's education reforms, both in Texas, and as outlined in Washington this week, centered on literary and standardized testing and accountability. They don't deal with technology, perhaps more educationally significant in the long run.

In the past, the likely new attorney general has been a leader of this brainless brigade, along with Bennett and Cheney (and the ex-Labor Secretary Designate Linda Chavez, who withdrew her nomination last week after a controversy involving an illegal immigrant working in her home). Attorney General Ashcroft was a leader in the Congressional movement to post the Ten Commandments in the country's public schools in response to the Columbine massacre. So was Cheney, and,his wife Lynn, former head of the National Endowment for the Humanities.

If the past culture wars are any indication, the new administration will make access to violent and "unsavory" imagery and information online a centerpiece of their law enforcement initiatives. It's been politically popular for years. They will also hammer entertainment companies, online and off, to generate more "wholesome" entertainment programming, especially for the young.

For them, cyberspace poses a threat to traditional moral values, since it empowers individuals -- especially younger ones -- to access information that once required approval by educators, religious leaders and parents. Now anyone with a modem can find his peers. Now wonder they don't like the idea.

Of course, there's been another twist involving the tech universe and this administration -- Bush got a ton of money from Silicon Valley business leaders, once presumed to be either apolitical or Democratic in orientation. Look for a Bush administration to go after dirty pictures and music-thieves while taking a more generous approach to corporate positions on telecommunications, antitrust and copyright.

Even so, the cabinet as formulated doesn't have a single representative from Silicon valley, or any technological industy. What does that mean for the tech world?

An example of the sort of issue digital civil libertarians will have to fight is the ongoing furor over the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) placing of limitations on the number of general domains. This, say critics like the ACLU and others, threaten free speech for individual Net users and noncommercial organizations. This pro-business decision -- overseen by the U.S. Department of Commerce -- is a perfect example of the kind of issue this administration is likely to resolve on the side of commercial use, not individual users.

The good news: the new administration is unlikely to curb business or technological innovation and expansion. These are not antitrust gunslingers fighting for the right of the little guy to survive. They would never have brought suit against Microsoft, as several Bush administration executives have inferred.

The bad news: Digital civil liberties will be a hot political issue online. The social conservatives returning to power are highly selective about what sort of free speech stays free. Until the Reagan years, classic conservatives equated free speech with patriotism. But in the 80's, conservatism fused with religious and other moralistic ideologies. They absolutely dread the notion of a free and open Net, for all of the obvious reasons -- it's a dogma killer.

Ever since the social conservatives came to power -- and they are especially close to the Republican congress and this new administration -- libraries, schools, kids and coders have had to content with a wide array of challenges to their rights to a free and open Net. This is the crowd that supported legislation recently enacted by Congress requiring all public institutions that receive federal aid -- mostly schools and libraries -- to install blocking and filtering computer software to protect kids from the dangerous Web. Last month, supporters of such legislation controlled Congress. Now they control the White House, cabinet, and federal agencies as well.

What we can expect:

  • Bush's campaign statements suggested he wasn't in agreement with the Justice Department's action against Microsoft, or with the court-ordered remedy of dividing the company and enforcing restrictions on its competitive practices. Ashcroft's Justice Department may drop the case or settle under terms more generous than Janet Reno's would agree to. Both Joel Klein, who prosecuted the case for the Justice Department, and David Boies, the attorney who skewered Bill Gates and worked for the Al Gore post-election, will be scarce now.
  • Some Washington columnists, editorialists and insiders are already referring to the new administration as Bush, Inc., it's so pro-business. The Corporate Republic just got a lot more corporate.
  • So, expect good times for conglomerates. Microsoft, AOL/Time-Warner, Disney, Sony all have good friends in this administration (as they did in the last one). Bush got so much money from these and other companies that he rejected matching federal funds for his campaign in order to avoid cumbersome federal regulations and disclosure rules, an electoral first. We may see a proliferation of government-supported legal challenges, patent and copyright suits, decency acts and other provisions designed to make life on the Net safe and profitable for big companies. The FBI and other law enforcement agencies have been pleading for years for more money to go after hackers, crackers and script kiddies on the Net. They'll probably get it.
  • Perhaps even more than the previous administration, the Bush team will be sympathetic to publishing, record and movie companies worried about copyright protection. Also to doctors, lawyers and othe well-lobbied professional groups who'd love to curb Websites offering specialized information that used to come, at considerable cost, from them.
  • Good times, too, for de-centralized softare programs -- like Linux, Gnutella, freenet and other P2P systems. As government tightens copyright and intellectual property enforcement, which this administration has said it will do, the individualistic point-to-point, peer-to-peer programs already coming of age will become more popular, more necessary, perhaps quite political.

    The movement away from top-down, agenda setting media entities has mushroomed online, from instant messaging services to the many thousands of individual Web pages given away for free by search engines and others to sites like this one, Everything2.com, the vines.com, freenet, Plastic.com that turn editorial space and story agendas over to readers and citizens. They are inherently political, consciously or not. The open media movement may accelerate rapidly, and for all sorts of reasons, one being they are much freeer and more open than mainstream media, and nearly impervious to the monitoring of government or other authority.

  • The new President himself warned that under certain circumstances, the Net could turn a child's heart "dark." Look for the gaming culture to come under particular fire for promoting violence and other unwholesome behavior.
  • Of course, there are certain types of technology the Bush camp will embrace, particularly the kind related to defense industries. Donald Rumsfeld, the new secretary of Defense, and Colin Powell, the new secretary of State, are both pushing for development and deployment of an anti-missile shield around the United States. Claiming the military has been weakened by Defense cuts and needs to be upgraded, they're going to commission the kinds of jazzy weapons systems any 16-year-old Doom player would drool over.

By and large, this is an administration unlikely to focus much on the Net or to pay much attention to the broader, more complex issues affecting Americans and technology in the coming years. If so, this will widen the chasm between younger, technologically-centered citizens and their government, a gap that's already big and getting bigger by the day. Politicians can always surprise us, true, but more often, and especially lately, they seem to play to our worst instincts.

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  1. Microsoft case must be abandoned by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 4

    No government that approves the merger of AOL and Time Warner can possibly propose the breakup of Micorosft.

    1. Re:Microsoft case must be abandoned by QuantumG · · Score: 3

      am I wrong here or does it matter about didly squat what you're newly elected officials over at the whitehouse give a shit about a decision that has already been passed down even if it is in appeal? If so, I truely have to fear for your system of government where the courts are bought and sold so readily.

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    2. Re:Microsoft case must be abandoned by QuantumG · · Score: 3

      Gee, U.S. Senator Herbert Kohl doesn't seem to think so. You can read it for yourself:

      KOHL: Mr. Gates, last year, what were your company's sales? Was it 14 billion roughly?

      GATES: Well, which 12-month period are you asking about?

      KOHL: Any -- just, what your last fiscal year.

      GATES: Well, 12.4 annual.

      KOHL: And what were your profits?

      GATES: Let's see. I don't know off the top of my head.

      (LAUGHTER)

      KOHL: Do you know what your percentage on sales were, the profit on percentage on sales?

      GATES: Yeah. It would be something like 24 percent.

      KOHL: Right.

      Now, for the information of the people who are listening. That is an extraordinary profit level in America. I would defy you to come up with any major company in any major industry that makes that kind of money. In the retailing industry, for example, if you make 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 percent on sales, it's considered to be very successful. And other industries are not that dissimilar.

      Now, I would suggest that as reasonable as you consider your prices to be, you could cut your profit in half and still make an awful lot of money on sales and give that money to your customers and still be a very successful company.

      Do you have a response?

      GATES: We -- Microsoft software prices -- the average price we get for our software packages has come down quite substantially over the years. And I think, you know, we do have competitors who wish our prices weren't so low. But I tend to favor your approach which is to get the prices to be even lower. I think that's absolutely right.

      BARKSDALE: Mr. Kohl, excuse me.

      You have quite a bit of margin there to work with, Mr. Gates, at 24.5 percent on sales. You can do an awful lot of price cutting yet.

      Could it possibly be that the senator was talking about real companies in real industries that make billions of dollars a year and not two bit dime stores? I've shown my cards, where's yours?

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    3. Re:Microsoft case must be abandoned by west · · Score: 3

      >> They make 24% profits on sales. Everyone else in free competitive markets is making 3 to 5% profit on sales.


      > Book stores make 40-60% profit on sales. Grocery stores tend to make 20-30%.


      I'm going to assume stupidity instead of malice.

      You are quoting gross margins. i.e. a books costs a bookstore between 40 and 60% of the price that it sells it for.
      The previous poster is quoting profit, i.e. what's left after you pay rent, employees, marketing and everything else.

      The two are in no way comparable, except that they are both quoted in dollars :-).
      Most bookstores I know about are making between -3% to +5% profit. I don't know about groceries. As for software, gross margins are about 95%. Software boxes don't cost an awful lot.

    4. Re:Microsoft case must be abandoned by QuantumG · · Score: 4

      This is the most moronic arguement I have ever heard. Ever. I should frame this. You my friend, are a dickhead. Ok. Let me explain economics 101 to you. The Free Market. The free market encourages competition because it is good for consumers. For example, soap company A sells a product effectively the same as soap company B. Soap company A wants you to buy their product so being that they can't really differentiate their product they reduce their price. You, being a smart consumer, decide to buy A's soap because they are cheaper than B. B see's this and lowers his prices resulting in you buying his product. This little war continues until A and B are selling soap at the bare minimum that they can see it and still make a reasonable profit. Basically the price is forced down until neither A nor B can lower it anymore. You, as a consumer, now have a choice between A's soap or B's soap at a very low price. Whew. Now, let's say that company A becomes the prefered soap company. Consumers have chosen to use company A's soap is the best and that they dont want to buy company B's soap. Company A is said to have a monopoly. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Now company A knows that they have a monopoly and that people dont care about price anymore. So they start to raise their prices. Some people dont like this and go and buy company B's soap but most people dont care. They're happy with company A's soap and will pay whatever it costs. This is still fine. It's no big deal and it is normal for monopolies to do this. In fact, it is so normal that people claim this is one indicator that a company is "monopolistic" - that is, they are aware of their monopoly and they use this market position. Still fine. This is great. Now that we're up to speed.

      Microsoft claims that they are not a monopoly. They claim this dispite the fact that 90% of PC's have their product installed (ie, they have a dominate market position like soap company A) and they price their product monopolisticly. So do you get it now? The good senator is asking Mr Gates "well if you claim that you're not a monopoly, why is it that you have a market dominance of 90% and you price things so high and make so much profit?"

      Welcome to the conversation, bonehead.

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  2. Backpeddling by rw2 · · Score: 5
    This may be the first time I agreed with Katz. It should be wildly amusing to watch as the party of personal responsibility tries to explain government censorship of the internet. They support holding parents responsible for the crimes of the children for crying out loud. How can they possibly reconcile that with Net Nanny and making the gummint responsible instead.

    I'm sick and tired of the right ranting about small government and then pulling shit like that. The only way to stop it is to vote for personal freedoms. Sadly only a few dozen people seem to have done that in the last election so we are stuck with the same old song...

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  3. My Predictions by stepson · · Score: 5

    Pres. Bush loads up Linux Kernel 2.4 on his home PC, says "Where's my Ricky Martin MP3s? Where's my winamp? How come I can't get this so-called 'Stateful Inspection'. Damn strange firewalling syntax if you ask me" - Switches to OpenBSD.

    Feds go to hunt down Jon Katz - "Goddamn he's annoying" One secret service agent is heard to say.

    IBM bought by Microsoft for there OS/2 technology - Balmer says "Maybe Bill was right after all!" - Bush says "OK!"

    Linus has another Kid, declares "Sex is good!" - Big slump in patches to 2.5 kernel, as geeks everywhere discover the wonderful world of sex.

  4. Anti-trust. by Matt2000 · · Score: 4


    If Bush is really going to carry out his mandates, most of which I don't agree with, then he will drop the case against Microsoft, something I do agree with.

    Why? Because it's a waste of taxpayers money at best, and at worst it's a clumsy and dangerous artificial attempt at "making things right." The government tried to sue IBM for something like 20 years, and by the time they got ready to do so, the market had done the work it is supposed to do and IBM was on it's way out. What was the result? Millions of dollars in wasted legal fees.

    Microsoft is already less important in many critical ways (data interchange formats, server and web server market share, etc.) and if any of us are ANY good at what we do then that trend will continue.

    The estimates on the lifespan of this case are ten years, we've been through three. By the time any rememdies could be in place if they are still necessary then WE should be sued for letting Microsoft sit on a decaying monopoly and doing nothing about it. THAT's anti-competitive.

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  5. Oh so now you get around to it... by Dj · · Score: 3
    Wait for the idiot to be sworn in and then start prattling on about how shite Bush-baby is going to be for tech and free speech et al.


    I hope that that "Al gore invented the internet" jokers choke on their own words. Hell, there's my prediction... Large parts of America slap their forehead and go "We elected a what?"!

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  6. bush (vs. gore) on tech issues by Jim+Madison · · Score: 4
    According to this concise statement of principles, Bush is for:
    • Investing "$400 million to create and maintain more than 2,000 community technology centers every year" (georgewbush.com, 9/23)
    • a "five year extension of the Internet tax moratorium" (georgewbush.com, 9/23)
    • Expanding efforts to bring government services onto the Internet (georgewbush.com, 9/23)
    This is what I expect from him, although he is not off to a good start on the third point.
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  7. Re:Your own predictions, please.. by Golias · · Score: 5
    I have to say I disagree, Jon. Our predictions are of little value to anybody, because nobody here (including you) has any clue what John Ashcroft's view of the Microsoft case will be. In fact, even John Ashcroft probably does not know what his opinion will be... he just got the job, and needs to view the facts of the case.

    Everything you had to say in your column is the speculation of a journalist in the trenches, one with no more insight into the minds of the Bush team than any other journalist who might be reading this.

    Rather than an informed prediction of what is soon to come, your column seems to be an attempt to drum up hysteria about the worst-case scenario. Perhaps you hope that by rousing up the activist spirits of the typical Slashdot reader, we will all be more prepared to throw our cabbages should Bush displease us. That is a reasonable goal, but at least be honest about it if that is what you are trying to do.

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  8. Rather gloomy if you ask me. by hrieke · · Score: 3

    So, then let's wait and see.
    Mr Katz, would you be willing to return to your predictions say every year and see what has and what has not been done on this list?
    My own predictions are that Bush will blow too much into defensive spending, not enough in education, California will be a major topic as that state continues to meltdown annd effects the rest of the nation, and the leadership that we've enjoyed on the world stage will face some serious challages (how's that for being vague!).

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  9. RU? by Docrates · · Score: 5

    I can't possible make myself read 2 hours of katz again, so i read the the first few lines and a thought jumped in my head. Thought I'd share it with you, knowing that by know you're probably somewhat bored (you know why):

    RU-486?

    No, I'm Pentium.

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  10. Encryption and Privacy by coats · · Score: 5

    One good thing will happen if Ashcroft is the Attorney General: he is known to be an advocate both of encryption and increased support/protection for personal privacy.

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  11. Dubya Dubya Dubya dot EEK dot com by Zaphod+B · · Score: 3

    One thing to mention... when I was in college, I had a professor of history who said that when she arrived in the US from India, she was amazed to see that the reins of power were calmly, peacefully handed over every four years, with no revolutions, etc., until she realized that they really don't change hands. If you think about other countries, she's right. The power shifts back and forth between two groups who are basically centrists.

    I think perhaps the immigration controls will be tightened somewhat (less H1B visas, etc.) in a raw display of power. Other than that, I don't see any drastic changes, mostly because they would negatively affect the economy, which would forevermore be labelled George W. Bush's fault.

    Just my $0.02.

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  12. Re:Something I fail to see by Smallest · · Score: 4
    I fail to see why trying to align technology to moral standards should a bad thing

    Who's morals get to be the standard?

    Remember, if the morals aren't mine, then they suck. (repeat 6 billion times)

    -c

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  13. Your prejudices are showing by John+Jorsett · · Score: 3
    Where do yoiu guys get these ideas, anyway? The Democrats are just as big a bunch of paleolithic dweebs as the Republicans. Recall that it was Zoe Lofgren (Democrat House Member, CA) who introduced HR 774, the "Internet Freedom and Child Protection Act of 1997" requiring filtering software. It was Diane Feinstein (Democrat Senator CA) who added language to a counter-terrorism bill to ban "bomb-making instructtions" on websites. There were plenty of Democrat sponsors and votes for the Communications Decency Act as well.

    As for the top people having had no contact with the net, that's mostly a function of their age. Many of the CEO-level people today came up in an environment where it was beneath them to even know how to type (I know of one 55-year-old guy who just assumed management of an organization, and his first act was to buy a dictating machine because he can't type and secretaries these days don't know shorthand). Those people are retiring now and dying out. Keep in mind that the lower-level folks, down where the policy recommendations come from, tend to be younger and will be much more familiar with the net.

  14. I think it's a bad thing, by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 3

    Because the technology is being aligned to Dubya's morals. Remember, just because he was elected, that doesn't mean we're all protestant Christians who take the bible as literal truth.

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  15. Re:Online Gaming Incites Violence? by Saige · · Score: 3

    If you want to fix these problems (which are the effect) you must deal with the underlying CAUSES, rather than trying to constantly invent new ways of battling the SYMPTOMS.

    Well, if you haven't figured it out, the majority in America prefer to be reactionary. They prefer quick fixes to the visible symptoms, without really caring about going after the root cause.

    Solve crime by throwing people in jail quicker and longer. (But don't bother trying to figure out what makes them turn to crime) Solve drugs by locking people up all the time. Ban abortion. (But don't try and figure out how to make it so people don't get as many unwanted pregnancies) And if violence in schools seems to come from the outcasts, go after the outcasts (and never figure out what makes them so angry in the first place).

    Solving problems is not the way of this country.
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  16. Come on, Katz, you actually have to do research by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 3

    "The new regime may signal a new era by walking away from the antitrust victory the Justice Department won against Microsoft last year"
    Says Katz.

    To quote a cnet article "Given the political and practical realities, the new administration is not going to tamper with the case in the short term," said Bill Kovacic, a professor at the George Washington University Law School."

    I actually used to like Katz. I thought some of his Columbine-era stuff was pretty brilliant. But now he's just a scare-monger. He knows what scares geeks, and yells "fire" with no facts backing him up. Everything I've heard and read says that GW Bush does not particularly think MS should be broken up, but doesn't want to interfere with an issue that really isn't his deal. Katz comes in, thinks to himself, "Bush is a conservative, conservatives are pro-business. Dubya must be on the phone right now putting a stop the the Microsoft trial". It's just bad reporting. There are so many things GW has actually done and said for us to rag about. Don't make up stuff.

    Here is the article I quoted above:
    http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4288788.htm l

    -B

  17. Come on, give the guy a chance by bluGill · · Score: 5

    It becomes obvious from that you are unwilling to give Bush a chance. He has been in office 3 days, and you are already perdicting doom and gloom, even your good points are worded in such a way as to cast doupt on how good they are.

    Bush has officially been in office for 3 days. It takes longer then that for it to become clear what he is really about. There will be "bad" things that he does, and "good" things. Of course there is always anouther side, and so I might like what you dislike and vis-versa.

    I remember quite clearly all the doom the right wing spread about Clinton in office. Well, it didn't happen like that. Mind you to the right wingers things should be better today (by their definition, which isn't just christian fundamentalist) if their guy was in charge.

    Clinton was one of the few democrats who supported NAFTA, a complete surprize to the right wing that supported NAFTA - they once thought of Clinton as too left wing to support it, much less be a leader in getting it adopted.

    Clinton also raised taxes (in 1993 if I remember right), which was perdicted by the right wingers with much doom and gloom. There are several implications of a tax cut, some affect the ecconomy (which has done well), and some just a philosophy of what goverment should do. Perdicted by the right wingers with much doom and gloom.

    Both sides are claiming a balanced budget under the Clinton years, with many giving credit to rebublicans having congress - gridlock making it difficult to spend more money as each side has their own ideas of where to spend it. (Never mind that if you take the socal security ficasco out there isn't a balanced budget)

    Clinton signed the Communications Decency act, the DMCA, and several others. Who would have thought a democrat would restrict freedom like that?

    At the very least this proves that polititions are not always friendly to their side. Most likely Bush will not be anything close to the worst president in history. He probably won't be impeached. I will gaurentiee that he will never be considered the best or worst president. (I know people who like Nixon despite that scandol, Slient Cal has his fans, FDR, Lincon, and all Washington have critics - those are the obvious canidates for worst/best, and there is no concensious)

    So give the guy a chance. Support him when he is right (and he will be). Be an opponant when he is wrong (and he will be). Remember there are two sides of every issue, try to see the other side even if you disagree. Keep the discussion civil.

  18. Murder trials are a waste of time by QuantumG · · Score: 4

    After all, the victim is dead, he's not comming back, the trial is just a clumsy and dangerous artificial attempt at "making things right." Oh wait! That's right, we enforce the law to stop them from doing it again. Sheesh, hang your flamebait head in shame.

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  19. Re:Anti-trust - Agreed, run OSS, quite whining by BitMan · · Score: 3

    Agreed.

    Open Source Software (OSS) -- you don't have to switch entirely over the Linux. Just try out various OSS programs for Windows -- keep your data out of proprietary application hands.

    I'm sick of even "officiers" in my local LUGs, with users of 3+ years still running MS IE and Office (at meetings for God's sake!). God, could they please try StarOffice, or even the MS-IE-like KMelon browser? And there are many other application ports to Windows as well.

    I write books and technical documentation just fine with LyX, which I switched to Word 97, from Word 95 and lost half my technical report styles. I had had enough of putting my data at risk with proprietary software. Never again, never again.

    The people bitching the loudest are "so-called Linux advocates," who after years of running Linux for some niche purposes, haven't really spent a good 3 months using it as a serious desktop. They keep saying it is "not ready." I say BS! Get serious! Quit bitching.

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  20. YOu guys are missing something by photon317 · · Score: 5
    It bothers me that the Free Software Hacker world is so incredibly anti-Repbulican. I understand the reasons stated in the article, and certainly both political parties make a lot of mistakes in our eyes, but let me remind you of what my political ideals are, and why that makes me vote republican, even though I'm a slashdot-reading, FSF-supporting, Kernel-modifying fool:

    To me, one of the metrics of political ideology in a America (and perhaps the most important one) is the Left/Right one. Of the many issues that seperate the two, one large, overriding issue is how power and morality are controlled.

    Overall, the Left moves in the direction of a lot of personal Liberty in the areas of Morality, but a lot of centralized power/money in the government. The Right, of course, moves in the direction of a lot of centralized control of the nation's Morality in the government, and a lot of personal freedom/liberty/power, thus reducing that of the government. Please don't argue this with me unless you are sure you know what you're talking about, I've researched extensively without listnening to anyone's propoganda.

    My personal political ideology of choice is Libertarian. The gist of that view is that this country is founded upon the rights of "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" so long as you don't infringe on the same rights of another person. I feel that the Constitution was designed to protect these ideals. I feel that in respect to our current state, the Libertarian view would want us to reduce laws against drugs, gun ownership, crypto use, and many others - as wells get rid of the IRS and try to find some sane way for the reduced government to get the money it needs.

    However, the Libertarian Party hs never produced a candidate I would call anything but ridiculuous, and the Republican party is far closer to my ideals than the Democrats, so I vote for them (in general... I will always vote against a complete loser, regardless of party).

    I feel that it is vitally important that if we want our Hacker ways to get out to the world, we have to stop the concentration of power and money in the government. We also need to stop the execessive restrictions on our freedoms.

    The reason that those in the Right direction of politics has made many bad decisions for the techies of world is because the individual people in power are ignorant of our thoughts. I fully believe that their ideology is the one we can benefit from the most... but they are still stuck in an old world. They'll come around and see what we have in common with them in time. If you leave the Left in power, they _will_ take your freedom to program, they will take your freedom to encrypt, and they will turn us into the world's newest socialist/fascist country if given enough rope to hang us with.

    I believe too much of our community has been blinded by a Left that has been in power and infiltrating media organizations. CNN is their lapdog. Even if you are of Left ideology and don't much care, be realistic and realize that fact.

    Please don't respond just to flame me, or to start some political science debate. This is my opinion, and I think I'm in the minority enough here that I can make a good one-sided rant without providing the other side's view - it has been expressed enough.

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    1. Re:YOu guys are missing something by MrBud · · Score: 4
      The Right, of course, moves in the direction of a lot of centralized control of the nation's Morality in the government, and a lot of personal freedom/liberty/power, thus reducing that of the government.

      I really don't understand how you see this. Do you not realise, that any Forced "Morality" comes at a loss of individual freedom?

      I feel that it is vitally important that if we want our Hacker ways to get out to the world, we have to stop the concentration of power and money in the government. We also need to stop the execessive restrictions on our freedoms.

      Are you sure you voted for the right canidate? Now, I could understand if you were comparing Democrats and Republicans, in which case, you might be right. But you're comparing liberals and republicans. Reps. and Dems. don't exactly have the best rack record on leaving us be. The balence of freedom depends on The right of person A to annoy, and the right of person B NOT to BE annoyed. The trend with republicans tends to be to restrict what annoys them (Violence and Nuditiy) and push what they like (Christianity, nuking seperation of church and state).

      bah.

    2. Re:YOu guys are missing something by Masem · · Score: 3
      It bothers me that the Free Software Hacker world is so incredibly anti-Repbulican.

      It's not that most OSS advocates are anti-Republican, but it's just that we are anti-partisian politics. We carry no party label, and only identify with candidates based on issues and not a word or title.

      Last election, most people that read /. probably votes for Nader, Browne, or one of the independant parties. I voted for Nader, not because I consider myself a Green party person (as I do have qualms with some of their ideals), but because I believe that Nader would fix issues that I have with our current government in terms of corruption and outside influences from corporate America, based on the various platform speeches that he gave. Others chose their own candidates in the same way. Unfortunately, the other 95% of voters in the states tend to identify with a party and go straight ticket, even if the ticket conflicts with ideals.

      Like I and others have said, political parties are akin to organized religion : it's equivalent of mass mind control. People want the easy way to success, whether in this life or the next, and to completely identity with one of a few alternative choices out there is much easier than having to decide for yourself how to vote or to think.

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  21. Re:Net issues by knurr · · Score: 3

    And I quote "there's Dubya, the self-proclaimed "Great Uniter," who's not even inaugurated yet, making the surprisingly underreported statement before a collection of rights groups, "You people have to understand we're the ones in power now and we're going to do what we want." (Apparently Dubya thinks "president" is synonymous with "king.") Who wants to be known as "the law and order president" in an era when crime is way down from the heights it was at during the last Republican administration. Who has stated, in the face of parodies, that there ought to be limits to freedom. Who wants to turn the foreign aid budget entirely over to private groups like Worldvision to dispense, unanswerable, per their own agenda. Whose candidate for secretary of the interior favors the far right (and misnamed) "property rights" movement, at the expense of our national parks. Who's pushing an extremist attorney general who has proclaimed the king of America is Jesus (I'm sure the Jews, Moslems, Buddhists and Hindus will be happy to hear about that), who cut the legs out from under the appointment of a black judge because the man questioned one death penalty conviction in his entire bench career, who has consistently promoted the most devisive form of states rights against the power of the federal government yet wants to use federal power to universally banish abortion in the country, whose favors for political cronies have been a consistent argument for campaign finances reform, and who, the President-Elect insists is "a model of integrity." While we get this little song and dance about unity, you can hardly miss the background scritching of power broker knives being sharpened to carve up the government in a frenzy unheard of... well, since the Reagan-Bush era, because, like Reagan, Jr. is going to be perfectly happy to let his amok advisors do his thinking for him, the exact same way he ran his campaign. (And, hanging chads aside, anyone who doesn't get a considerable jolt of suspicion from the fact that his brother runs the state that squeaked him in just hasn't been living in this country since 1963.) " Master Of The Obvious [Commentary] - 1-17-01 by Steven Grant With this current administration there are going to be so many limits we will be crying for clinton, sure he may have had some 'isssues' but she did not want to silence people. I mean the whole jessie jackson thing, why before the ignauguration.???

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  22. another sign : historical rewrites. by small_dick · · Score: 3

    wroooooooooong.

    IBM settled with the government, and had to accept severe resrictions on their behavior (which was even worse than MS').

    Sun, SGI, Microsoft and Apple would not have existed without that case.

    Microsoft has refused to settle, even though the evidence is overwhelming.

    IBM is doing fine today, and there is a lot of choice.

    The last part of your post is also wrong...you imply the population is responsible for monopolies, which is backwards. The population can't opt out of a monopoly if there is no choice.

    Example : if many employers force employees to log in from home, as part of their job, and have an exchange server, the choices are : use MS at work and home or starve. And that, my friend, is exactly what Bill Gates wants, and what the government must stop.

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  23. Need to seperate understanding from intent... by SuperKendall · · Score: 5

    Normally I like Katz articles. However, in this case he seems to have the same failing that many other posters here have - that because you understand technology, you have its best interests at heart.

    He kind of struggles around this issue, noting that under Clinton we got the DMCA - "but at least they understood techology!" He cries. So what? Gore FULLY supported the Clipper chip (which Katz shrugs off as being obviosuly unconstitutional, so it didn't even matter that it was supported), do you think our personal privacy would have been in better shape under a Gore administration who knew technically how to take away our rights, of under a Bush administration who may not quite understand how best to keep them?

    Bush has always been a strong advocate for personal privacy, and I expect that to continue. Perhaps corperations might have an easier time overall (though I'm not yet sure that's true) but at least there might be tougher laws about companies storing data about us.

    Of course, I really wish Brown would have won but given the options, we have the next best thing to ensure some degree of electronic rights and privacy.

    Also - one last dig. Look at this quote from the article:

    They don't deal with technology, perhaps more educationally significant [than literacy] in the long run.

    Now I'm a huge fan of technology in schools and education. But even I will admit that it's probably better that kids understand what all those squiggly lines are on the screen before they learn how to flash-update a bios.

    Sure, we might see more huffing about "morality" on the internet - but what has that really done before? Also remember that we have a very balanced congress and house now, so any truly wacky proposials are unlikley to go anywhere.

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  24. Funny, however... by Ruger · · Score: 3

    ...you missed the mark here:

    IBM bought by Microsoft for there OS/2 technology - Balmer says "Maybe Bill was right after all!" - Bush says "OK!" - Funny, but very unlikely.

    In 2000 Micro$oft's Revenue was only $23B (Income=$9B), while IBM's Revenue in 2000 was $88B. I suggest the following, possibly as funny, certainly more possible...bear in mind I didn't say likely, scenerio... :^)

    IBM buys Microsoft and halts all shipments of Windows to Dell and Gateway. IBM becomes the #1 PC manufacturer and supplier. The justice department thanks IBM for taking care of their Microsoft problem.

    Ruger

  25. Re:Bush should take on Hollywood, RIAA by JeffL · · Score: 3
    Hollywood and the record industry hate him and give lots of money to the Democrats.

    This is only partially true. According to Open Secrets the TV/Movie/Music industry gave $21.6 million to the Dems and $13.4 million to the GOP in 2000.

    The breakdown of the contributors is also interesting TV/Movie/Music "production" groups gave much more heavily to the Dems than the GOP, but Cable/TV/Radio stations/owners gave more heavily to the GOP than the Dems.

    Basically, this industry is doing what many others have done for many years, which is give to both parties, that way they are covered no matter who wins.

  26. Oh, but for tech stocks, only gloom by WillSeattle · · Score: 3

    A number of reasons for this:

    1. Tech stocks are priced too high. Even now. Look, when I buy a stock, I expect a P/E (future) of between 12 and 30. Stocks with P/E of 60 or more are priced to the concept that they will explode geometrically, with nary a hiccup.

    2. Tech CEOs gave equally to Dems and Republicans, unlike other industries which gave mostly to Republicans. For this reason they must pay. Even Bill G did this. No easy access to the gravy train for them.

    3. The True West (California, Oregon, Washington) voted against Bush. They must pay, and Cheney will make sure they do. Never mind that they're 25 to 30 percent of the US population and create more than half the goods we export. They will suffer.

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  27. Re:Something I fail to see by drox · · Score: 3

    I fail to see why trying to align technology to moral standards should a bad thing...

    When you do it, it's not a bad thing.

    When I do it, it's not a bad thing.

    When you do it, and try to force me to adopt those same moral standards, it's a bad thing.

    When the government (or Microsoft) does it, it's a very bad thing, because they're quite capable of forcing people to do their bidding.

  28. CNN and the "liberal media" by cje · · Score: 3

    Can you provide a concrete example that conclusively demonstrates the assertation that CNN is "left-leaning?" This is a network, after all, that is home to conservatives like Robert Novak, Tucker Carlson, Rich Lowery, etc. Hell, this is a network that was home to Pat Buchanan, for Christ's sake. It has become clear to me that outraged shouts of "liberal media!" are a knee-jerk reaction from conservatives who cannot believe that respectable media outlets aren't reporting the same things that they heard on Rush Limbaugh or saw on the Drudge Report.

    If you want to hear reports from a former friend of the neighbor of Hillary Clinton's hairdresser about how she once kicked a helpless, sickly dog in anger and then spit on the grave of Abraham Lincoln, you know where to find it. Most of us want a little bit more substance in our news.

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  29. Re:Oh my! The sky is falling. by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 3
    But, the media, being Big D Democrats for the most part, will be gunning for Bush.

    OOOooo! That's a bonus I hadn't thought of...

    I personally think the "checks and balances" will be working better than ever this administration:

    • The Legislature is almost exactly divided between lefties and righties. They'll be so busy arguing with each other, they won't have much time to take away as many freedoms over the next four years.
    • The righties know that the very narrow victory Bush got means they'd better be careful or there'll be an outright voting-tantrum next election and we'll be tipped way over to the left, so I suspect most of their "anti-"whatever policies will be mostly limited to "not supporting" rather than "actively resisting/criminalizing".
    • And, as cathryn pointed out, the distinctly left-leaning mainstream media will be scrutinizing the Bush administration VERY closely, so they won't be getting away with nearly as much as the administration they're replacing.

    So, in short, I think US Federal Gov't, inc. will probably be less actively oppressive for the next four years. My opinion, anyway.


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