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Dear CDDB Users: Thanks For Helping The RIAA!

A reader unblessed with a name writes: "I'll admit that when Gracenote took over the CDDB compact-disc database, I wasn't too annoyed. Now I am. Napster has just signed an agreement with them to use Gracenote's services, and by extension the community-built CDDB databases, to implement its copyright blocking."

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  1. Re:Can one fool apps into using FreeDB instead? by Nexx · · Score: 5

    Yes, at least on NT. edit %SYSTEMROOT%\System32\drivers\etc\hosts .


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  2. Flamebait? by Chelloveck · · Score: 5

    Too bad I don't have moderator points today. Can I moderate an entire article as "Flamebait"?

    Look people, I know there are a lot of GNU zealots here that buy into the party line, "Information wants to be free!" So the CDDB database gets used by the Bad Guys. So what? That's the price you pay for freely exchanging information -- Someone else is free to use it against you!

    Okay, so CDDB is no longer "free" in the GNU sense. That's beside the point. Do you think they're so naïve that they're not also using FreeDB as well? The only reason you know about the Napster/CDDB deal is that they had to sign a license to use the database and someone thought it would be good PR to announce it publicly. I'll betcha a dollar, though, that they also have their hooks into FreeDB and any other GPL'd free-as-in-liberty databases out there.

    Freedom is a double-edged sword. You can't grab the moral high ground waving the "Information is Free!" flag, then complain when people use it for the "wrong purposes". That ain't freedom. It's a license agreement.


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    1. Re:Flamebait? by f5426 · · Score: 5
      Too bad I don't have moderator points today. Can I moderate an entire article as "Flamebait"?

      I would have modded it up as "Funny".

      Of course Napster is going to get its info from wherever it can find it. Hell, the RIAA can give them the list of all song names, authors, albums, etc, etc. Napster could take its data from FreeDB, but it would not be as funny. After all, FreeDB give free information, for the good and the evil.

      The CDDB steal data from people that were riping CDS to put the on Napster which now sleeps with RIAA and uses the very data those people typed in and can't have free access to, to prevent them access to the song they ripped.

      It's... marvelous. Really. It is a splendid shortcut of what the net have become.

      Cheers,

      --fred

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  3. FreeDB by einstein · · Score: 5

    those of you that are still using CDDB, and are fed up with them charging for community added content, switch to Freedb.org. It's not gonna up and sell the database.
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  4. The real moral is stay under the radar by Hairy_Potter · · Score: 5

    The real moral is not sharing is for losers, but when ever you do something that the higher ups (ie your employer, the RIAA, the government) might look askance at, try to stay under the radar.

    For example, LSD was legal and unknown until the media got ahold of it, in 1965-66.

    The Grateful Dead were a great party until MTV's Day of the Dead in 1987.

    Porn was free and unblocked by corporate networks in 1996.

    I imagine that divx;) sites are going to get targeted next.

  5. Re:I understand your frustration by 1010011010 · · Score: 5

    Napster users aren't taking someone else's music and then selling it back to them. Whereas the CDDB is taking the result of other people's labor -- a database rather than music tracks -- and selling it back to them. And now, also using it against the people and the activity that created that database in the first place.

    I see a difference, once I look past the superficial similarities.



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  6. Sure if napster is king... by Pengo · · Score: 5


    But napster is not king. Opennap for example gives you 100% of the functionality of Napster without having to deal with the RIAA.. yet. There will always be up-and-down servers, etc.. but thats alright. The list of servers right now is centralized with Napigator, but how hard would it be to reverse engineer the napigator ? Damn easy..

    I put up a opennap server on my cable modem one night.. within 2 days I had over 300 users using the server and 250GB of songs indexed on my system.

    RIAA is nothing more than a speed-bump... honestly I think it's the best thing to happen to push people out of using a centralized and corparation controlled service.

    RIAA may of made their worst mistake by not settling something a bit more reasonable with Napster.. it's going to push people to other avenues. (No, I am NOT talking about Gnutella... ) I can see the RIAA board all start laughing when they talk about gnutella as a threat.

    anyway...




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  7. I think it went more like this: by Aggrazel · · Score: 5

    RIAA: Here is a list of 150,000 songs that we want you to block. You have 3 days.
    *THUD*

    Napster Admin: OK.

    *2 days later, Napster Admin wakes up from a hangover*

    Napster Admin: That was some party, hey? Oh shit. The RIAA thing. Holy Mother of Perl! I don't want to mess with typing or OCRing all that in!

    *an idea forms...*

  8. "You Used To Be Cool": An open letter to Napster by tenzig_112 · · Score: 5
    Man, Napster, you used to be so cool. But what happened to you? The minute the heat is on you, you up and rat on everyone.

    One day I'm "sharing" tracks with "friends" I've never met. The next day, I'm "stealing." What the hell happened to you, Napster?

    This reminds me of that guy we all knew in high school who used to let us borrow his car all the time. Sure he was friendly when we were hanging around and borrowing his car. But once we crashed it into a tree, he wasn't very friendly anymore.

    Everything was cool when you were cool, Napster. Remember? We were all having fun until the cops came a'knocking. Hell, half the stuff I stole I didn't even like.

    Well, I've gotta go shave my donkey ears.