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The BSD Family Tree
A reader writes: "Every time BSD gets mentioned on Slashdot, the usual round of questions get asked. Most queries want to know what the differences in the BSDs are. For the April DaemonNews, James Howard has written the answer."
...neither do you ;)
It was recently discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
You have to love these two.
When I was using 386BSD in 91? (why not - I'd heard of BSD Unix, but not this Linux thing), Bill and Lynne would post to the 386bsd newsgroup.
If someone was criticizing 386BSD to strongly, or unfairly, or a response to something bordering on flame was needed, they would sometimes both have a response there.
Lynne was VERY straight-forward in her responses - along the lines of to hell with you, you stupid moron. (Not that she said things like that, but you always knew where you stood).
Bill was a little more verbose in subtle, in that when he got done insulting you and telling you to piss off, you may even think you have been complimented and should say thank you.
I really wish I still had some of the threads that illustrated this - it was a great fun to watch.
SecureBSD and TrustedBSD are really just extensions to FreeBSD. Similarly, RTMX is a set of extenstions to OpenBSD. I didn't think it would be good to include them in this. Addtionally, with BSD/OS effectively merging with FreeBSD, I didn't include it either. However, it gives me an idea for a new article... :)
NeXTSTEP 0.8 Oct. 12 1988
NeXTSTEP 1.0 Sep. 18 1989
NeXTSTEP 2.0 Sep. 18 1990
NeXTSTEP 2.1 Mar. 25, 1991
NeXTSTEP 3.3 Feb. 1995
OpenStep 4 1996
Rhapsody DR1 Sep. 1997
Rhapsody DR2 May 1998
Darwin 0.1 Mar. 16, 1999
MacOS X Server 1.0 Mar. 16, 1999
MacOS X (DP1) May 10, 1999
Darwin 0.2 May 13, 1999
MacOS X Server 1.02 Jul. 22, 1999
Darwin 0.3 Aug. 16, 1999
MacOS X (DP2) Nov. 10, 1999
MacOS X Server 1.2 Jan. 14, 2000
MacOS X (DP3) Feb. 14, 2000
Darwin 1.0 Apr. 5, 2000
Darwin 1.1 May 15, 2000
MacOS X (DP4) May 15, 2000
MacOS X (beta) Sept. 13, 2000
MacOS X Server 1.2v3 Oct. 27, 2000
Darwin 1.21 Nov. 15, 2000
MacOS X 10.0 Mar. 24, 2001
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
I dunno about this -- the most computer illiterate people are Wintel's primary demographic. This is why Intel promotes the Pentium III to make your Internet faster (and gets away with it).
Apple's demographic tends to be holier-than-thou arty types and interface nuts. My experience is that Mac OS users tend to be very computer aware, if not literate, because since 1991 or so, you have to have really loved the Mac OS to put up with expensive hardware, corporate idiocy, and really, really poor (official) technical support.
"Beware by whom you are called sane."
Potato chips are a by-yourself food.
Some has done the same for Linux
OpenBSD also advanced the state of code auditing. Beginning in 1996, the OpenBSD team began a line-by-line analysis of the entire operating system searching for security holes and potential bugs. Unix systems have been plagued for decades by the use of fixed-sized buffers
I have such a filter. It's called "reading at threshold 2". I can either be egalitarian and give everyone equal time, looking for all the gems of wisdom AC's and new people might post ... or I can enjoy reading slashdot.
Personally (as a FreeBSD freak) I think the guy is a pro-BSD troll just making the linux camp look bad (and of course BSD as well, er wait, it's all twisty now). Trollers troll, coders code. The latter are worth paying attention to.
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I've finally had it: until slashdot gets article moderation, I am not coming back.
"Mass market" means that it's suitable for the teeming unwashed millions. Buy it preinstalled. Buy it shrinkwrapped and install it without breaking a sweat. Be able to configure it without being an amateur sysadmin. Be able to use it without knowing how it works.
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
B) See A). And make sure to hide your head up your ass until after Service Pack 3, then start talking about how Windows Trilennium is gonna fix all the problems with W2K. And, I just use "vi" everywhere, period, without checking to see if it's installed; but I'm still trying to figure out how a lack of alternatives is something for you to be proud about. Though, since every M$ user I know reverts to notepad for simple text, lists, notes, I suppose you must have a good reason to be afraid of alternatives.
C) Ooh, a factory. Gee, it must have been sealed with a kiss by a guy in a white lab coat. From your damaged brain, it's clear you were born and raised in a factory and fed on factory food. Oh, yeah, "make install", jackass. Have fun with those $95 support calls.
D) Yawn.
You bots are all the same, add a little Microsoft Advocacy and out comes the same old tired arguments. I couldn't have said it better myself.
The best argument against Microsoft's long term supremacy is history; not one single technology has been dominated by single players and proprietary mumbo-jumbo variant standards for longer than a few decades. An early lead ALWAYS turns the greed robots to vain attempts to stop the race and freeze time at moment they take the lead. Even with the state backing them up, they can't do it forever. Just look at what happened to telecommunications since the Ma Bell breakup; cellphones and pagers everywhere, an explosion of telecommunications services, the Internet... Back when you were born around 1980 there was a phone (gee, no one had to ask what kind of phone you had, how wonderful!) rented (ooh, a subscription model, how wonderful!) from the telephone company, period, and using any other kind could get you jail time. But that was better, right?
Microsoft has served their purpose, and now it's time for them to go to the elephants' graveyard to die. Ten years after they slip, the same dumbass commentators on financial news shows will be saying "It's amazing to think that anyone would run a company based on the idea that consumers would only want one choice of operating system. No wonder Microsoft stock has slipped so much. Their new CEO, Steve Jobs*, has got to turn them into a company focused on their customers and offer them the choices and services they need, or the next earnings report will be even worse."
* Sorry about then Jobs thing. Just couldn't resist trolling a little myself.
Boss of nothin. Big deal.
Son, go get daddy's hard plastic eyes.
Expanding a vast wasteland since 1996.
a minor correction...
"NeXT eventually quit making hardware and implemented NeXTStep for other operating systems, changing the name to OpenStep. "
Actually, NeXTSTEP was the OS, as i recall, and its name was changed to OPENSTEP when it was ported to Intel hardware. NeXTStep was the set of frameworks for rapid app development, which was called OpenStep on OPENSTEP as well as on the other operating systems on which it ran, such as Solaris and Windows NT.
This is pure nitpicking, and I don't mean to detract from a really excellent article. But NeXT Inc's product line was always a bizarre confusion of different capitalizations; I may not have it quite right either.
-- "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin
There are way too many BSD's.
As opposed to what, 180 seperate versions of Linux. And that is just the registered versions
How many are NOT in their database.....
If it was said on slashdot, it MUST be true!
For an example, please refer to this post.
-gerbik
flamebait: food of the gods
Can't somebody put a freakin' filter to block this idiot out?! This damn thing pops up every time BSD gets mentioned...
/Brian
Who is this shithead who keeps posting BSD-is-dead anyway? It's become rather pointless and tiresome.
ObKarmaWhoring: I did my own history based on a slashdot post I made some time ago. It's at http://www.geocities.com/connorbd/bsd.html. I fancy it's a bit more technical than this version (which I've added a link to), and perhaps a bit less dispassionate (it was a
/Brian
I have no clue where to even start or if this is possible? There must be some real gods here though that can explain how the installer works and how to make just one large package from a file system and have it install from a bootable CD.
Sorry, I know this is kinda off topic but I'm more than stuck with this, one week of FreeBSD experience is just not enough :-(
A journey of a thousand miles starts with a brutal anal raping at airport security
I found this while looking around on the net.
Wow a full Family Tree of UNIX this thing is huge
How about a graphical history... and also include unix, linux, blah, blah, blah...
Does it go on forever?
Isn't that what the *BSD guys complain about linux? Too many versions, too many different types of packages etc. What exactly prevents me from starting a new freeBSD distribution? In fact, secureBSD and TrustedBSD seem to be "BSD distributions".
Magnus.You are an idiot and you just keep re-pasting the same lame troll post every time the three letters B,S, and D show up in a row. The BSD variants are developed by volunteers. How will BSD "die"? It's not like there is a payroll to support. BSD outperforms Linux while being more secure. That appeals to many people and companies. Your harp on about BSDI taking over distribution of FreeBSD. So what? How many Linux vendors have gone belly-up? Corel dropped Linux. Does that mean Linux sux and is doomed? Lots of Linux vendors are operating in the red. Is that a sign that Linux is on its way out? We've all seen your post here and in the 150 other places that it's appeared on Slashdot. Now go away until you have something new to say.