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Educational Consortium Will Control .edu Domains
PxT writes: "According to this Reuters story, the U.S. government is going to hand over control of .edu to an association of 1800 college IT departments. Anything is better than Verisign ..." I wonder how long VeriSign cried over this move, considering that it probably wasn't very lucrative to administer .edu names. (It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
Who cares about tlds? What you should be complaining about are the Class A subnets!
I work for a private school that has a .edu.
So it's not been limited all the time to higher ed.
crimeny. We agree to mix our
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fernbank.edu - a science center.
There are others I can't think of right now that are not colleges, but major education type places (like...you know - starting to sound like totatally a val girl)
Somewhere deep within NSI's web pages, nigh impossible to find, is something that says you must be an accredited 4 year school to get an .edu. (Or you must grant bachelor degrees - usually 4 years)
.edu as well as .org.
.EDU Web Address?
.EDU domain are reserved for colleges and
.EDU Web Address. Graduate programs, remote campuses, etc.,
.EDU Web Address of their own. Instead, they should obtain
.EDU TLD register their Web Addresses under the .ORG
.US.
Below is what it said when I last found it, as our music hall attached to our campus wanted to get
14. What are the guidelines for registering an
Registrations in the
universities that grant degrees at the bachelor, master and doctoral
level, or its foreign equivalent. Each college or university may register
only one
cannot obtain a
a third-level domain beneath the second-level domain of their institution.
Inquiries should be directed to the registrant of the second-level domain.
If the college or university registering the Web Address meets this
criteria, it must provide a brief explanation of the kinds of degrees
awarded under "Purpose/Description" on the registration form.
Many foundations, institutions, consortia, centers, etc., that have
educational missions but don't meet the criteria for a Web Address
registration in the
TLD. K-12 schools and community colleges are typically registered under
country domains such as
Check out www.toronto.edu
Wonder how that one slipped through...
Verisign receives part of your registration fee, no matter what registrar you use. I think it's something like $7 per year per domain, which is probably mostly profit for Verisign.
(It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens) My older and twin brothers go to this community school http://www.mdcc.edu/ I guess they did not get thier facts straight
If I will be able to register Armageddon .edu now?
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You say you want a revolution....
*shrug*
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I assume you already knew about Hamburger University, but hey, just in case you didn't..
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Hamburger University
I've cruised the campus before, it's very nice--even has a full golf course. They actually do have courses on Working the Fry Basket, although they don't offer them as distance-learning
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My question then becomes what happens to places like Stuy which are not four years colleges but which do have a
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Check out www.exeter.edu
This is a prep high school, sister school to Andover of Bush family fame...
wake up and find out that you are the eyes of the world.
Not just private high schools can get .edu domains. One friend of mine showed me the web page of Stuyvesant High School, a public (magnet) high school in New York City.
For more information, click here.
universities are at universityname.ac.uk
This gave us a small amount of amusement when as (American) university students, we would download things from a mirror at Imperial College. Spoken aloud, of course, their domain is "Ick Ack Uck". :-)
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
...assigned according to their geographic location, if you're talking about high schools and the like. Something like nameofschool.city.state.us seems to be common. Likewise for community colleges.
Putting anything that calls itself a school into an .edu domain would be utterly chaotic. Even leaving aside Dimator's very good point about how .edu ought to mean something (frex, accredited schools), you're still faced with half a kazillion public schools all named "Central High School," all of which will be offended if they aren't www.central.edu.
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
Problem with the school of hard knocks is that nobody ever graduates. Everytime I think that I'm close to graduating they change the fsckin' requirements on me and I suddenly find myself starting my freshman year again. At least the tuition isn't all that bad.
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My two-year college had an .edu TLD, as do many others.
Got Rhinos?
High schools can use .edu. Check out Thomas Jefferson High School.
You mean like a museum?
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What a concept. That means that .net should be given to network admin consortiums and .gov should be given to the government. Oh .gov already is. So it's only the 'little guy' that is still under the control of corporations? Figures.
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www.HardKnocks.edu
Alumnists include just about everyone. And we have campuses all around the world. Although, not a 4 year college, more like a lifetime one. Credit transfers are automatic, and you do not need a thesis to graduate!
Too me,it seems that "teaching" someone to think is a bit of an oxymoron. Teaching seems to be a type of manipulation, no matter how well intentioned, seems to be be incompatable with the idea of indepedent thought.
That is, when you teach people to think, you are always going to teach them, in some subtle way, to think how(and by extension, what) to think. And thus you aren't teaching thought at all.
Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
I actually modded you up for that first post for Katy a few weeks ago...as offtopic and ridiculous as it was, young love (or old love,for all I know) is so sweet+cute, I really had to reward you. I got metamodded down for it, too.
Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
Am I really that ignorant of the English language? Where, when and how did the word "education" come to mean "accredited 4 year university"? What, exactly did all these accredited four year universities do to lay sole claim to the title of "education"? Unless "education" now means "bullshit, more bullshit, date rape and drunk driving" I don't think that the four year universities should be in sole possesion of the .edu
So, to put it more mildly, I don't see why four year universities should have sole rights to the .edu domain. I am happy that four year colleges and non-traditional schools may also be able to get it.
Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
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It also notes how Verisign does state that it was eager to give up the domain.
You honestly think a group of 1800 college IT departments is going to do something better than a single government agency? First, remember that a high percentage of this group will be state schools. Second, have you read some of the horror stories here in recent months about the Use Policies and the behavior of some of these instititutions? At least at the State schools the local state constitution has some bearing on their behavior but a private school...
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Don't you mean IMHO? On Slashdot (oops, I mean /.) you're supposed to use acronyms whenever possible!
The .us TLD is extremely hard to get domains registered into. Many contacts refuse to answer email regarding their areas of responsibility, and some charge outrageous fees (>$400/yr) to register. All in all, the .us TLD is a bust, in my humble opinion.
I'm glad only accredited 4-year institutions are supposed to get .edu domains. I was once requested to register an .edu for an MCSE-generating mill, one of the places that promises if you spend $5000 on its classes, that you will pass the MCSE exam or your money back, plus you got a free palm III for registering. I tried to register it with Internic (the only registrar at the time), and was asked to provide documentation for their accreditation status. I let the salesdroid know about it, and the customer ended up getting the same name with a .com instead. Entirely more appropriate, in my opinion.
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NinjaTux(.edu): the low latency attack software of the millenium of hackers. Access it now at www.kernel.org via the hypertext transfer protocol. Tuxedo not included, Although one will look good on you at your trial.
(oh, and please, mod up the article I responded to. It is funken funny stuff!)
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But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
hey nobody has perl.edu y'know... If I had the resources to build such a site I would but I don't so maybe someone else should...
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that's right, www.krustyclowncollege.edu
It's about time he got the recognition he deserves for his contributions to American comedy...
Given the changes, I'm petitioning the board for my domain to register my college's domain: sex.edu
:)
And yes, I will be providing a four-year degree.
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This post is a mirror; when a monkey stares in, no hacker gazes out.
Uh.... do a whois on oxford.edu, glasgow.edu, kingston.edu, mcgill.edu
Sorry - that's about my limit on non-us college knowledge - not even enough for a full Jeapordy category.
There have been many institutions over the years with .edu domains that are not accredited 4-year academic institutions. Museums, research facilities, schools without 4-year programs, there are numerous examples of all of these (thank you, we don't need every /.'er noting the dozen closest to them.)
Either Reuters has simply gotten their 'facts' wrong (gee - a misreported tech story? Never!) or the enforcement of the 4-year policy has been innefectual.
Frankly I'm inclined to believe that either this supposed policy is a relatively recent one or there's a lot of details that have been omitted. In any case the Reuters story is clearly innacurate.
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
Well, the internationalization of TLDs such as COM has been only a relatively recent development. In fact, several of the top-level TLDs are reserved for the United States, in particular, GOV, MIL, and (as you pointed out) EDU. The others (COM especially) have traditionally been dominated by US organizations.
Furthermore, the administration of the US domain is a bureaucratic mess, despite the (in my mind) wonderful structural scheme that's present in it. Also, it doesn't quite have the accessibility of the top-level TLDs. (Was that .ny.us or .nv.us?)
One could go on and on about whether or not the US has the right to claim such exclusive access, but the history remains the same. ^_^
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Why is there a second America-only tld? Why isn't this .ac.us (in the uk we use .ac.uk for educational institutions). I always thought the main tlds were supposed to be international, with only the country codes being restricted by country... Evidently not, though...
(It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
.edu has come to signify something, just like .com has. If you start giving it to every other "online university" or other sillyness, then you diminish the .edu title, and soon you'll have things like www.hard-knox.edu.
I'd like to see it given to only accredited universities, actually.
I could be crazy though....
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I would so love to have hardknocks.edu! I know just about a bazillion people that would be qualified to have an alumni.hardknocks.edu email address (myself included, if having your kidneys fail when you're 20 counts as a hard knock ;-) ).
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Time to break internic's rules:
Registrant:
The Old School (OLDSCHOOL7-DOM)
1111 Karlstad Drive
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US
Domain Name: OLDSCHOOL.EDU
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Bell, Wade (WB216) wbell@BEST.COM
8oz. Publishing
2432 Karen Dr #1
Santa Clara, CA 95050
408 249 1557
Record last updated on 08-Mar-2001.
Record created on 12-Oct-1998.
Database last updated on 12-Apr-2001 06:35:00 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NAME.ROC.GBLX.NET 209.130.187.10
NAME.PHX.GBLX.NET 206.165.6.10
NAME.IAD.GBLX.NET 204.152.166.155
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for evilmedical.edu. After all, he didn't spend 8 years in Evil Medical School to be called "Mr. Evil".
I've wanted since the begining of all this, and every time i've applied (at multiple places) when asked by the person 'is this a 4 year school', i patiently reply 'One cannot become a ninja with only 4 years. ha! ha! ha!' and then they hang up on me, I think cause of the mocking tone.
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