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PDA User writes: "With more and more innovative items coming out this year, it's not surprising to say the least that a new product has come out, this time it's called a "Half Keyboard." Well, what does this half keyboard offer you? Available for the home PC or any PDA, it's got some pretty interesting features....check out the review @ G3D:Gaming In 3D for some nifty info on this $99 Half Keyboard." An excerpt: "Touch typing was invented over 100 years ago. In all that time there have been no significat advances in how people type. Until now. This motto, taken directly form Matias Corporation's manual, states their goal. But, have they achieved it?" Nothing like trying one out, but a review is better than just looking at the pretty pictures and wondering whether a wacky keyboard is as useful as it is intriguing. (The review says "it's not all that stellar in gaming," though.)
What's funny is that they claim they have done something different from the past 100 years, yet they are still using a sort of half-assed QWERTY keyboard (yes that was a pun).
They should have designed it with the most used keys on the first half, and second half could contain the less used keys. Do you really use Z or Q that much (other than really descriptive variable names).
They should have looked at a scrabble board, put all the low scoring letters on the first half, and the other letters on the second.
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Disclaimer: I was looking at this from a typing standpoint, not a gaming standpoint.
Heh, I bet this keyboard would suck with Dvorak. One of it's goals is to get as many words to be typed with alternating hands as possible to cut down the number of sluggish singlehanded words. This keyboard makes for an extra keypress every time you switch over to the other side of the board.
Alternatively, there is something called the one handed Dvorak method (smirk now). It also allows people to type with one hand, and it can be done on a normal keyboard. What's more, your OS will probably already have software remapping for it. People who have lost the use of an arm and are forced to switch or give up decent typing forever have reported speeds up to 60-70wpm in this configuration.
I'm intrigued by it because of the time it takes me to move my hand from my keyboard to my mouse, and back to home row. But then, I'm awash with small efficiencies. I use dvorak and I'm very handy with emacs keystrokes.
Note the word "economics." Liebowitz and Margolis are economists opposed to an "excessive inertia" theory, for which QWERTY is often cited as an example. Rather than try to prove their point with a generally valid argument, they simply attack Dvorak as a dubious replacement for QWERTY.
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If you can not press ctrl-alt-del then it is usless and should not should to any with a Windows OS.
This is not to say that it's a bad thing - just that it would be cool if they came out with a mirror image version for righties.
That's the common way of putting it, but not entirely accurate.
The qwerty was designed not to be slow, but so that letters that frequently followed each other had their typebars far apart from each other (as two next to each other will jam quite easily, wheras two far apart jam less easily.)
Study after study, yes, a DVORAK or other keyboard is usually only slightly faster (though less tiring on your hands, apparently, because you don't have to work as hard.)
Also, nothing forces you to use this format. Pop in a dvorak keyboard map and go to town. It's entirely feasible to switch between the two if you know them both.
Keep working on the Kinesis. In time, you'll find yourself much faster with it. There's a lot to be said for reducing the distance your fingers have to travel to type.
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Well, from the looks of that article, (which I assume was typed by the author on the half-keyboard) either: 1) spell-checkers don't work on anything typed using that keyboard; 2) the keyboard is not conducive to accurate typing; 3) the author's spelling/grammar is poor to begin with; or some combination of the above. I'll stick to my ergonomic, thankyouverymuch.
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Yes, I read the article too, and yes, the review does say that there's no Ctrl or Alt keys... but they're there... take a look for yourself here
....with this keyboard.
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From the review:
Pros: Great for typing up documents; Extremely compact; Plug 'N Play/Easy Installation; No incompatibilites
Cons: Rather steep learning curve; Terrible for gaming; Hefty price for keyboard
Note two of the cons -- "Terrible for gaming" and "Hefty price". I'm sorry folks, but this keyboard will not change the world. It's a neat toy, and might have some applications for wearable computers, but that's about it.
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Better to criticize weak ideas than to put time and money into them that might better be spent on producing something that *won't* make the company go bankrupt in a year, and might actually be useful to society.
If people were a bit more cynical, and a bit less "rah rah progress rah rah innovation", I wouldn't have had to sit back and watch the dot coms drop like flies.
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The question is, will this pass the grandmother test? Any grandmother could have figured out a normal QWERTY (or Dvorak or whatever) keyboard, but I doubt that this will "change the way people type" for the simple reason that nobody's grandmother could use it.
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I remember way back in the 80s seeing a news story on a keyboard Apple computer had made. Basically, the same idea. Bassically, a small number of keys, and pressing different combinations of said keys would produce the result you're looking for.
This looks a little more advanced of course, as the science of ergonomics has advanced. But I don't think this is going to be earth shattering beyond some specific markets.
I will agree that current speech recognition isn't perfect and often needs a large amount of training, but this should be understandable considering how it must be able to handle the pronunciations/mumblings of everyone. In addition, as mentioned in the response above, speech recognition is not a complete solution for typing as things you want to "write" may need to remain private even when "writing" in public. Also, even if speech recognition was 100% accurate, in many cases it will be slower than typing.
Introducing this as a desktop device at this late date seems pointless. On portable devices it might make more sense. What's needed is a cell phone with a chord keyboard for messaging. Make it in colors with a cute shape and sell it to mobile girls in Japan.
they even have a wearable keyboard / pda kit: http://www.halfkeyboard.com/products/index.html . it is kind of pricey.
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I guess just like the laptops, the smaller it is the more we pay for it. Get less for more motto works for me!
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At E3, I got a chance to talk to the CEO/Inventor about this device and actually try it out. It was cool to use, and wasn't that hard to adapt to. He said that it worked by "sense memory" where the body remembers how actions are performed. However, everything is remembered in a mirror image sense, i.e. the left side is a mirror of the right. So, in this case, it actually messed me up to look at the keyboard, but touch typing was relatively easy to pick up, and felt pretty natural.
Still, for those desperate to achieve the Golden-eye pen twiddle and still get decent typing speeds, you can reach speeds of up to 60 wpm with the dvorak one-handed layouts (the keyboards are probably a little bigger than this though).
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The most interesting thing I have learned about the whole situation is this: First, there are a bunch of people who are Dvorak Advocates. They often believe they have found the One True Way, and attempt to convince and influence others into seeing it their way. However, most Dvorak users are live-and-let-live about it, willing to give people information, but realizing that most people do not have the diligence or the desire to learn the alternate mapping. Only a small number are these "Advocaters".
But, what is even more interesting is that there are also a bunch of Qwerty Evangalists out there. These are people who are utterly convinced that the Dvorak keyboard is a hoax, and attempt to convince everybody that they are right. There are probably more websites out there about why Qwerty is better than Dvorak than vice versa. I find these people very interesting (pcidevel appears to be one of them), because they generally have never tried the Dvorak keyboard, the Dvorak keyboard never did anything to their family, the Dvorak keyboard never flamed them on slashdot. They just have a need to tell people that the Dvorak sucks. Maybe they read about the Myth of the Keys, and think it makes them look devilishly smart to outwit all these people who think they are smarter than the general public.
I would suggest to anyone thinking about the Dvorak keyboard that they shouldn't switch if they ever use anyone else's machine. Or if they hope to gain speed. (You might gain 10%-20% in some situations, but most of the typing we do is not limited by our upper typing speed but by the speed at which we can think about what to say next, so the choice of a keyboard doesn't really matter too much. Plus, you can probably increase your speed 10-20% by spending a month practicing to type faster.) However, changing will decrease the number of errors you make, but errors have a relatively small cost these days (compared to the typewriter days, when an error could cost you minutes and minutes). Changing will decrease your finger movement, balance the amount that each hand types, and reduce a lot of awkward movements you do while typing. I don't know of any research showing that these qualities will reduce RSI, and this would be very difficult to determine experimentally, but there are numerous anecdotal testimonies that people have offered. In that respect, a "sample" size of 1 is a completely valid experiment, because it generalizes to the entire population who matters--person who reports their experience.
There are two much better reviews, one at Futurelooks and the other at The Gadgeteer.
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This thing is bound to fail for several reasons.
1. It's made for lefties. A lot more people are right handed than left. Scientific American lists most humans (say 70 percent to 95 percent) are right-handed, a minority (say 5 percent to 30 percent) are left-handed, and a few as ambidexterous. That immediatelly dwindles your potential user base, since most people's non-dominant are useless for skills that require more dexiterity, and they don't want to try to learn a new way to type with a weak hand, which brings me to the second reason.
2. You have to fundamentally change the way you type. You have to learn a completely new method of typing. People who have been typing for years are familiar with the two-handed touch method, using the shift only for a few certain functions. Now you have to use the space bar for half the alphabet. Not intuitive.
3. Using the space bar as the shift will lead to more errors. Utilizing the space as the shift for the other letters is going to cause problems. You hit the space bar, maybe a little to hard or long, then go to type an S, and end up with an L. That would annoy anybody.
4. The competition from folding keyboards will keep it down. For the same price as this half keyboard, you can get a folding one that let's you type the same as you do on your laptop or your PC. Nothing new to learn. (Of course, not that many people really need to imput a ton of text into PDA's anyway, but I digress.)
This thing is going to bomb.
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QWERTY was not the first keyboard format...
...if memory serves me correctly, then QWERTY was actually developed to SLOW down the human typists because the physical typing machines couldn't keep up and kept jamming. Unfortunately, for almost a hundred years now we've been stuck using this piece of crap language format. IMHO, it's time to redesign with an emphasis on speed since it's now the humans that can't input fast enough.
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The only really worrying thing is probably special characters. The author mentioned typing documents, which to me rings a latex bell. Wonder how accessible the \[]{} are on that baby. In fact I used to have a Finnish layout, but those and many other punctuation marks were behind some cumbersome combinations involving AltGr. I switched to a UK one as I started coding more seriously. Therefore I would not like another keyboard with slow combinations for those. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned but frankly, even if the current design is 100 years old: if it ain't broke..
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This seems like a curious little device, but it only seems to have limited practicality.
The ONLY real use I could see for PC users is being able to devote one full hand to the mouse at all times. This could be useful (like the author mentioned trying) in AutoCAD or other drafting programs. Gaming, well..you can program the keys to whatever you want so you put all of your commands within easy reach. In a command-line drafting program you'll still want to be able to use the entire alphabet and numerical keys, so this might be useful.
One more use for all users of this keyboard is for the people with only one hand. Granted, it's a slim market, but I'm sure if I had limited use of my right hand I'd be interested in a keyboard that would be most efficient for one hand. Most of us don't think about things like this.
For PDAs, I can see a small market. Have one hand for keyboard input (ultra small and light, even better than folding keyboards) and one hand dedicated to holding the PDA up or using the stylus to tap.
Regardless of these uses, I don't think this strange little device will get very much revenue. I don't want one =).
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I thought even more funny was that the article was written like they were having a hard time typing:
Hell, it even a whole keyboard. It's half of one! Let's take a look.
In all that time there have been no significat advances in how people type.
One thing I thought I mightion is the fact that you can only buy a Half Keyboard for either your PC or your handheld.
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The wearable keyboard implementation could work well, but looks way too bizarre to market to business professionals. If you own a handheld and want to type faster, Fitaly is IMO the best way to go.
On the other hand, they could market this as a software add-on for PC/Mac/Linux very easily, now that they (I hope) have the patent on the idea. If I could buy that and use my existing keyboard with only one hand, freeing up the other one for the mouse while still having access to all my keyboard shortcuts, I'd spring a nominal fee for the shareware. But I can't see enough good reasons to replace my existing hardware with that dinky thing.
1. It's made for lefties. A lot more people are right handed than left.
The idea is to free your right hand for mousing, which most right-handed people do. Anyways, they already type the most common half of the alphabet with their left hand, including a, e, r, s, and t.
2. You have to fundamentally change the way you type.
Well, no-@#$%ing-duh. Every non-QWERTY keyboard would naturally require a fundamental change in how you type. It doesn't mean it can't be done; the question is how steep the learning curve is.
3. Using the space bar as the shift will lead to more errors.
That's like saying using the semicolon key for the colon will lead to more errors.
4. The competition from folding keyboards will keep it down.
Why would you use a folding keyboard for gaming? That's what this link is about, after all.
This thing is going to bomb.
Perhaps, but not for any of the reasons you've listed.
This product should not really be directly targeted to the PC market (except those with disabilities, one armed man, grandma with arthritus in her right hand etc.)
In the PDA market however this could be a lot more convient than cludgy fold out keyboards and stupid graffitti interfaces. You may not be able to type to fast but its a hellava lot faster than most options today.
As a devout Palm/Visor user this would be very valauble to me. As for ubergeek gaming It probaly wont do much though it might be cool to remap your keys and see if it might be easier to hold the keyboard in your hand almost like a controller.
umm...probaly not
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I have a better idea. It's called a one-row keyboard. It only has the keys QWERTYUIOP. The letter Q actually stands for 3 letters Q, A, and Z. W for W, S, and X, and so on. The computer tries all possible combinations and deduces the most appropriate word for the sentence that I am typing. For example, if I type Declaration of IYEEPEYEEYEE, it guesses that I was typing "Independence."
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From the review:
Apparently he types faster than he can decide which adjective to use.What do you mean they cut the power? How can they cut the power, man? They're animals!
I downloaded the "demo" software that simulates typing with a normal keyboard to test out the company claims that it's fast to learn. True to their claim it took me just a few minutes to get used to the idea of pressing the space bar and key to to make letters from the other side of a normal keyboard. After 5 minutes of typing my name again and again, I could pound it out faster than doing it with one finger.
I'm not saying that it would be easy for me to switch over, especially with 25 years of typing two handed, but I could do it. And if this was the only thing I was typing on I'd make the switch much faster.
What I think is a serious design flaw is that Option and Command keys (or Control and Alt) are not their normal places. This is a pretty serious mistake. In the case of using a Wacom tablet and replacing a whole keyboard with a Half-a-Keyboard, functions click command-z, x, c, v are now different hand/chording positions. Yuck.
While it's sorta easy for me to learn a new way to type , it's much harder to make my hand unlearn these time embedded basic patterns.
To be fair most of this review is based on a picture on the companies web site and a software demo simulating the product. Then again, it was tiltled this way. I only promised "half a review".
...the more they stay the same.
This was first posted in December as the Half Keyboard.
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