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Matrix Sequel Delayed to 2003
moojin was among the countless slashdot readers who noted that scifi (No I am Sci-Fi dammit) has reported that the 'Matrix Reloaded' will be delayed until the summer 2003. I'm bummed, but I'm willing to wait to see the Brothers W do it right (no way I'm gonna try to spell that name ;)
The 1973 and 1974 films The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers where shot at the same time. The cast sued because they thought they where only shooting one film.
My main problem with the original is the same problem I have with all cyberspace-neuromancer type clones: why in the world would your brain kill your body if you 'thought' you died in some VR-type world? It makes no sense. I mean, honestly, think about it. Most of your body which is devoted to survival is autonomic - heart, respiration, all take serious conscious effort to control, and quite a bit of training. It's extremely unlikely that your mind, thinking that you died, would cut off the *autonomic* response of breathing/heartbeat. That's idiotic. How does your brain know that you honestly died? All those bullets could've passed straight through, and not harmed anything. Consider reality: several people wake up in hospitals thinking that they have died. If your body doesn't die if your brain thinks you died in reality, you wouldn't die from dying in VR! Of course, the better analogy comes from dreams: if you die in a dream, do you die in reality? No... so why in the world does anyone think VR is any different? Granted, the Matrix wouldn't exactly have any 'punch' if they didn't really die, but that's another example of Hollywood sacrificing common sense for theatrical effect. It'd be really nice to see someone who's very very smart come up with a good, scientifically sound plot that's still a good movie.
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I lived in San Francisco last year and saw Keanu and Lawrence (just to name two) all the damn time in the city. Hanging out at the bars in Northbeach, at dinner South of Market, etc.
My question is, why were these guys always in the city hanging out? Did they ever get any filming done? I'm kind of saying this tongue in cheek, but it's a valid question. I had always heard the Hollywood myth: actors work such long days, filming is hard work, blah blah. Lawrence didn't look very stressed; chilling out with his ever present sunglasses and a frosty beer...
there are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots
Matrix isn't a standalone movie, with sequels being tacked on. It's the first in what was always planned to be a trilogy.
Yes Dorothy, the Matrix was just the boring intro leading up to the real meat of the story. Worth the wait I'm sure.
My question is, why were these guys always in the city hanging out? Did they ever get any filming done?
I worked as an extra during some of the filming of the sequels. A lot of of the stuff they were filming around here didn't involve Keanu's character, so he was "around" but not actively involved in most of it.
As for the other actors, sometimes you need them, other times a stand-in or stunt double is sufficent. During some of the stunt-heavy sequences the real Carrie-Anne Moss was only on our set once or twice a week at most; ditto for The Fish. But their stunt doubles were around constantly. It depends on what you're filming.
For ongoing info on the sequels, try www.thematrixonline.com .
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It happens quite a bit, especially with low-grade third, fourth, and fifth sequels.
Although it's at the other end of the genre, a good example is Back to the Future II and Back to the Future III, which were filmed simultaneously as well.
Seeing that they had to refilm a handful of scenes from the first movie as well when filming II, they could've done better by filming all three at the same time.
Much of Superman II was filmed at the same time as Superman (but finished later under a different director),
Rumors have also circulated that all three LOTR movies are filmed at the same time.
The Matrix was intended, from the start, to be a trilogy. This means that the next Matrix movie will be the second part of a story and not a copy of the first movie, wich sequels usually are.
The W bros. have been on record saying that the first Matrix is there mainly to establish the setting of what will basically be a superhero story. That justifies the bit at the end where Neo flies like superman (wich bugged many people).
And they have been saying that the Star Wars trilogy was a big inspiration for them, notably the pattern of "happy-dark-happy" of a trilogy, where a cycle of happy endings and "dark clouds" endings create a rythm wich helps a trilogy to be seen as a whole (think Han Solo in carbonite).
So expect the next movie to be way darker than the first (I expect Zion(?) to be destroyed and the last free humans to be forced to flee from the machines in the Matrix2, and to finally overcome the machines in Matrix3).
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