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Corel May Have A Buyer For Its Linux Division

SimJockey writes: "Looks like Corel is getting out of the Linux distro business." According to an anonymous source, says the article, "a newly formed company called Xandros will pay $2 million for the Linux unit, a division that comprised about 14 percent of Corel's total business as of January 2001." The Corel distro did some things well, so good things may come out of this sale.

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  1. Oops... by Mike+Schiraldi · · Score: 4, Funny

    When i first saw the headline, i thought it said, "Corel May Have A Buyer For Its Linux Distribution" and said to myself, "Woah! They might actually sell their first copy!"

  2. Xandros at Ottawa Linux Symposium by Capn_Sternn · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I remember a presentation done at the Ottawa Linux Symposium by a Xandros guy on the KDE multimedia architecture. The guy mentionned then that Xandros would be making a splash in the news in "a few months" about a new distribution. Guess this is it.

    Hopefully a startup might be able to manage the distribution better than Corel has, with tighter focus and better communication with the community. The downside is that I will miss Corel's excellent presentations at OLS.

  3. Corel's Distro by Whyte+Wolf · · Score: 3, Informative

    I talked to some developers with Corel a couple of years ago when they were just getting into the Linux market (it was at a job fair when I was looking for work) and they seemed pretty keen on how they were going to bring a fully integrated GUI to the Linux desktop (integrated as in from install through to user's desktop--like Windows does).

    I liked the idea, and was especially happy to hear that it was a Canadian company. That said, I always thought Copland was a little flakey, and as it turned out his 'Copland Research Labs' got rid of him--and unfortunatly it seems their Linux distro. What can you expect when MS invests in you though?

    I just wonder if all of Corel's GUI work was proprietary, or if it might be released Open Source with the distro's move?

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    1. Re:Corel's Distro by cworley · · Score: 2

      >I always thought Copland was a little flakey

      His timing was often bad. His ideas were great, the execution was often poor.

      He had a Java version of Draw 3 years ago... now they're going to do it all over again with .NET.

      Burney is the idiot. He could have partnered with an OEM like Dell/Compaq to create an office-oriented distribution with one-stop service; competing with MS using the same rules MS plays with.

      Burney did his infamous "matchbox assessment" (that's CEO speak for "I don't like the idea, let's kill it quickly") of Linux, and Corel's Linux momentum and future died.

      This news merely a prolonged post mortem.

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    2. Re:Corel's Distro by cworley · · Score: 2

      Whenever I'm at at a tradeshow, the Microsoft booth is always flanked by small "Microsoft Partner" booths.

      They remind me of Pilotfish, that swim in the bow wake of sharks, eating food scraps discarded by the shark. A symbiotic relationship.

      If a Pilotfish becomes too large, it becomes it's feeders food. Again, an apt analogy.

      Burney may find dancing with the devil currently profitable, but if he ever catches his feeders hungry eye...

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  4. Pardon? by Ron+Harwood · · Score: 2

    It is estimated by PC Data that Corel's Linux division sells about 25 percent of all Linux operating systems for desktop computers, second only to Red Hat .


    REALLY???

    1. Re:Pardon? by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      Could the key word here be "sells", as distinct from "distributes"? (And of course, FreeBSD represents a 0% share of the Linux market.)

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    2. Re:Pardon? by bfree · · Score: 2

      And where is Debian in this list? Are you really telling me no-one buys Debian CDs? Now if someone could come up with the figures for OS downloads AND sales from ALL sources (i.e. cheapbytes aswell as PC World) then it might get interesting.

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  5. Re:Fancy that! by tmark · · Score: 2
    Get a clue, open source DOES NOT equal a valid buisness model.


    This may be true. But I wonder what it would take to convince open-sourcers ? Is the validity of open source as a business strategy a valid, debatable hypothesis, or is its validity really just a matter of faith that could never be questioned no matter what ?

  6. You don't say? by SirSlud · · Score: 2

    "Linux, created 10 years ago this month by Finnish computer programming student Linus Torvalds, has become a popular software system used to run Web sites and is seen as a rival to Microsoft Windows, the dominant software used in personal computers."

    Is it just me, or is it getting more and more annoying having to read this line in every single article ever written about Linux? I'm surprised they didn't subsequently define 'computer'.

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  7. Re:Fancy that! by SirSlud · · Score: 2

    Steve Ballmer, is that you? Quit trolling /.!

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  8. Good. Mandrake needs competition. by phutureboy · · Score: 2

    Mandrake is arguably the best desktop distribution around, but still has a lot of shortcomings. It's simply sloppy and unpolished in some areas, and their QA process seems rushed.

    It's good to finally see some competition in the Linux KDE-based desktop-focused distro market.

  9. Re:Interesting by tb3 · · Score: 2

    No, it's a heavily modified Debian distrib. Very "dumbed-down", almost to the point of useless. I guess they were trying to compete with Windows. The GUI install was a custom job, so that's part of what they're selling.

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  10. advice to Xandros by perdida · · Score: 2

    Corel is selling it (the Linux division) because of the change in leadership. The former chief executive thought it was the future of the company but Burney thought they were putting more money into it than they needed to," said a source who wished to remain anonymous.


    Xandros does not even have a website yet.

    But I'd like to give them a bit of user-end advice.

    I have a friend who is working-class and got a computer with Linux because he couldn't afford Windows, and he needs something to write with.

    To get Linux to people like him, you need to do what AOL is doing - sell or give away Linux distributions out of little TAKE ONE hoppers at computer stores and supermarkets, on every continent on earth.

    They should be packaged with Internet access as well.

  11. Re:Fancy that! by tim_maroney · · Score: 2

    Is the validity of open source as a business strategy a valid, debatable hypothesis, or is its validity really just a matter of faith that could never be questioned no matter what ?

    From my experiences here, I would say the latter. I've now had several conversations where people cite various companies (Red Hat, Cygnus, VA Linux, Mandrake, etc.) as examples of open source business successes. I then point out that those companies are and were not profitable, and the people I am talking to just fall silent. It doesn't appear that real-world considerations and evidence have anything to do with the religious belief in the profitability of the open source business model.

    Tim

  12. Exactly the point! by wirefarm · · Score: 2

    At my old job, I was the resident Linux geek.
    One day, a coworker brought in a copy of Corel that had come in the back of Linux Magazine. Knowing absolutely nothing about Linux, he was able to install it on a spare machine and have it view all of the machines on his Windows network.
    Corel had a great 'Network Neighborhood' thing in KDE that actually worked, right from the start
    He told me that the install consisted of clicking 'OK' 5 times.
    One more Linux user that we probably wouldn't have if he'd gotten a copy of Slackware with his magazine. *That* is the value that Corel adds.

    Cheers,
    Jim in Tokyo

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    1. Re:Exactly the point! by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 2

      As a slack user I agree with you 100%.
      People who use slack do expect your average newbie to use slack unless they realy, realy want to know how linux works.
      However, in timem he will be ours. Oh yes he will be ours.

  13. Re:Fancy that! by sheldon · · Score: 2

    "I firmly beleive that any company that views software as a product and can't adapt to a service model is living on barrowed time. "

    Do you consider a spell checker to be a product or a service?

  14. A net loss by wfrp01 · · Score: 2

    The value of Corel to Linux community has always been their ownership of their application assets. Divorcing the applications from the Linux side of the business is a net loss for Linux.

    What's to become of Wordperfect and friends? This is one less incentive to port them, or parts of them, to Linux. In fact, it may provide less incentive to support them on Linux period.

    Of course if these products weren't held hostage by proprietary licences, we wouldn't be in this dilemna now, would we?

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  15. Re:Linux Stock market bubble by bockman · · Score: 2
    With Linux and OSS in general you have to go with the flow: place a few developers in the strategic OSS projects and wait for them to gain expertise and acknowledgement from the community. Never rush ahead of the crowds(like Corel did), but instead gently push in the directions you want to go, gatering all the consensus you can from the community (and, why not, even collaborate with would-be competitors). Never put too much investment in single products, because you wont be able to recover the investiment unless you make the product proprietary (and in such case you go out of Linux and OSS market and you must compete with MS).

    RH and others understand this. Corel didn't. They tried to rush ahead, invested too much in their own software (and in marketing and such: Corel boxes where everywhere ). They isolated themselves from Linux community, aiming to the larger market of computers users. But their product was not enough palatable for this market, owned my MS: not enough compatible with MS software, still based on an OS that most hardware vendors do not support, sold at the same price of Windows 95/98, which most users don't see as a cost because it is pre-installed on any new PC.

    Therefore Corel failed. But there is money in Linux. Maybe not the quick and fast money that corporations and shareholders would like, however. More the slow but steadily increasing money coming from a well-done work and from the availability of a large amount of 'building blocks' from which professionals and amateurs around the world can build their own personal computer solutions.

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  16. Re:bah! by bfree · · Score: 2

    So I guess Debian isn't a REAL linux distro? You could update Corel to Debian (though it broke their samba integration into the file manager and a few other of their "improvements") so you could look at Corel as an easier way to install Debian! What EXACTLY prevented Corel from being a REAL linux distro? (My guess is nothing, your just a flamebait merchant)


    If you had your way I guess no-one would be allowed to run linux unless they can install a system from source over the web from a base floppy using a text editor to adjust the mbr and partition table.

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