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Linux-Based Phone, Snatched From Inferno

elemur writes: "For your linux loving friends with everything, why not get a TuxScreen? This phone is based on the Compaq Linux distribution, normally used on the iPaq. When is the last time you needed to upgrade the packages or distribution on your phone?" A phone with a 640x480 touchscreen and a lot more smarts than "redial" would be an upgrade to most people anyhow -- being able to play games even more.

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  1. Just another net appliance... by purduephotog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And those have sold so well.

    No remote control so I can dial from my couch? Where's the advantage?

  2. No camera?! by micromoog · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Wait a minute . . . it's a phone with a color screen, but no camera for "videophone" capability? Is this a joke?

    • It's a PDA that's, uh, not portable
    • It's a phone that costs way too much
    • It's a complete overuse of technology
    Gimme a freakin' break, and some freakin' technology that's useful!
    1. Re:No camera?! by alhaz · · Score: 2

      The concept, when it was designed by a now defunct joint venture between philips & lucent, was for it to be an "internet appliance". They only sold a few hundred phones at $600/ea.

      It's a strongarm computer that sits on my coffee table, and a complete overuse of technology. But it's fun.

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  3. Linux and Telephony by pgrote · · Score: 5, Informative

    Although some may snicker at the kicthen aspect of the phone, this really does provide a nice platform for Linux telephony.

    Strides are being made in the telephony arena using linux. Bayonne is making great progress:

    http://www.gnu.org/software/bayonne/news.html

    One of the interesting things that people forget is that while VOIP is cool, you can't forget about the phone/automated system interaction for transacation based systems. Lots of market there.

    1. Re:Linux and Telephony by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      this really does provide a nice platform for Linux telephony

      "Linux telephony"? Am I in a Dilbert cartoon about buzzword hell or what? It's a network appliance with a voice modem and a telephone handset. Big friggin' deal. I can just envision conversations like the one below:


      Son: Hi Mom. I'm calling you on a Linux-based telephone.

      Mom: A what?

      Son: A Linux-based telephone. It's a phone with Linux in it. I just started penguin-dial, clicked on your name, and it dialed the phone for me.

      Mom: Oh, like my speed dial buttons...

      Son: No, this has your name on the screen.

      Mom: But I write the names on the labels next to the speed dial buttons.

      Son: This is different. It's like a laptop computer and it was only $99.

      Mom: But we bought you a laptop computer before you went to college. What happened to that? If a $99 one was all you needed, why did your father and I spend $1500?

      Son: I still have the laptop. This one is really slow and has a small screen. Plus, it does not run on batteries so you have to keep it plugged in. So this can't replace the laptop.

      Mom: So if you already have a better computer and your phone worked fine, why did you need that new $100 thing you are using?

      Son: Because it runs Linux.

      Mom: You keep saying that. What's Linux?

      Son: It's like Windows only way better. It's free.

      Mom: So you spent $100 for a computer phone to run a free computer program that gives you speed dial?

      Son: You don't understand. It does much more than that.

      Mom: Like what?

      Son: It has a web browser and word processor and calculator and all kinds of other stuff.

      Mom: But that laptop has all of that, doesn't it.

      Son: Yeah, but it uses Windows and Windows sucks.

      Mom: Then why did you have us get you a computer with Windows?

      Son: Because all of the programs that I need to run for school are on Windows. But it sucks. It's not stable and crashes a lot.

      Mom: So this new "thing" doesn't crash?

      Son: It does, but that's because it has a beta version of Linux on it. Once I have a non-beta version of Linux, it should be more stable than my laptop.

      Mom: So now you will use this new thing and the laptop we spent all of that money on will gather dust?

      Son: No Mom. You just don't understand. Anyway, that's not what I called about. Could you and Dad send me another $100? I need it for books and clothes and stuff.

  4. Fun hack? by kableh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work for a company doing a lot of wireless VoIP stuff, and can imagine all sorts of cool stuff you could do with this. Just load up OpenH323 and you have a functioning VoIP phone for anywhere. A guy who works with me has written an open source H323 app for WinCE on the iPAQ, and I bet it would be simple to port to a device like this!

    1. Re:Fun hack? by slickwillie · · Score: 2

      Open source on WinCE? Has your friend read the license agreement? Is that allowed? I'll bet he gets a visit from the M$FT legal team, especially now that you've posted it here. Don't you know they monitor this sight closely for license violations, new ideas to steal, and anti-Microsoft thought-crime?

  5. The US ... mobile backwater... by MosesJones · · Score: 2, Informative


    Go to Japan, come to Europe. This really isn't news. The nokia communicator http://www.nokia.com/phones/9210/index.html or for you guys next year http://www.nokia.com/phones/9290/index.html does all of that, runs on the rock solid EPOC operating system and is very nice as it runs full Java and a proper rather than cWAP browser (although it does that as well).

    Java's CLDC and CDC profiles address these sort of issues in a device independent mechanism which is critical given the differences in OSes, memory configurations and facilities.

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  6. I have an idea! by wiredog · · Score: 2

    How about a simpple device, handheld, controlled with an easy to use numeric keypad, used only for voice communication? Has anyone else ever thought of this?

  7. Cool toy, but needs to be re-directed. by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    microwindows is cool, I use it in embedded places.
    but this phone screams for PicoGUI instead. It's much smaller, and is better suited for a multi-display device instead of a mini-X windows. I tried both in a home automation project, and picogui won because of size and speed and the lack of ability to have overlapping windows.

    I for one am getting 3 of these phones just for the hardware hacking potential.

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  8. X10 Interface? X-10 Confusion? by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2

    does this device have an X10 interface? according to the hardware doesnt say specifically, but when you look at the logo on their index.html has a little subscript '10' next to the "X" in Tu X

    Anyone care to comment? Still a very interesting little device...

    1. Re:X10 Interface? X-10 Confusion? by alhaz · · Score: 2

      No, it doesn't. But it has a serial port on the back. You can plug an X10 interface into that quite easily.

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    2. Re:X10 Interface? X-10 Confusion? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2

      does this device have an X10 interface?

      I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it does have an X11 interface ;-)
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  9. Re:explanation by johnjones · · Score: 2

    this looks really nice I was looking for a StrongARM evaluation board and this fits the bill for a student project

    I am very greatful to Tim Riker who seems like at really nice guy (tm)

    its projects like this that make it all worth while..

    regards

    john jones

    p.s. mod this AC up

  10. Re:Hackable? by alhaz · · Score: 2

    It has PCMCIA slots.. Need network access, add it... I'm considering adding a PCMCIA soundcard and using it for MP3's in a room that doesn't have a phone or computer yet.. Right next to my bar, so I can snag drink recipes too....

    Unfortunately linux doesn't support pcmcia sound cards.

    The pcmcia slots in the is2630 are quite badly hacked in. They only support 3.3v cards and cannot send a reset signal to a card. Many 3.3v capable pcmcia cards work, and so far every CF card that's been tried in a pcmcia carrier works.

    I've got a 10/100 nic and a 64 meg cf card in one of mine.

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  11. Thank you Slashdotters by TimRiker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thought I'd post here briefly to clear up some of the comments.

    As andersen mentioned these are a discontinued product which I got a hold of for below the manufacturing cost.

    They are a true hackers appliance. Probably don't serve any useful purpose yet. Once we have VoIP and a digital answering machine working then I'll call them useful.

    At any rate the components should run you around $300 (usd) so if you want a project to hack on, this has been a fun one for those involved.

    There is no x-10 interface. As the paragraph quoted below mentions this could be connected to the existing serial port if you like.

    Linux will run on the device. Inferno is on them now. Play with both. Subscribe to Inferno source for $500 and hack on it if you like.

    It looks like MicroWindows and perhaps others as well running on uClibc will fit in the 4M of onboard flash and get about the same functionality that the existing Inferno offers. I prefer a complete open source solution, but will not force those views on others.

    Thanx for the interest! Still around 1000 units left at the time of this writing (for the may that keep asking).

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  12. Re:Definity G3 by djrogers · · Score: 2

    Talk to your Avaya SE, he may have a nice NDA for you to sign, but you may like what you'll hear...

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