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1st Cup Of Coffee: Hardening Your Arteries

mikewhittaker writes "A recent article on The Times refer to a report which indicates that the intake of caffeine from a single coffee can have adverse effects on your arteries and heart." Actually, it goes so far to say that the first cup of coffee is the worst. Of course, basically, anything you do is bad for at some level, so I guess it's choosing your poisons.

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  1. Easy fix by geophile · · Score: 5, Funny

    So skip the first cup of coffee and go right to the second.

  2. Yet Another Caffeine Study by javaDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They did it again ! Sometimes the study says "cofee bad", the next day another one claims "coffe good". With so many divergent results, how can one still trust any of those studies ?

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    1. Re:Yet Another Caffeine Study by The+Pim · · Score: 3
      Sometimes the study says "cofee bad", the next day another one claims "coffe good". With so many divergent results, how can one still trust any of those studies?

      Did you actually read the studies? Or did you just read the sensational news headline? I'm fairly confident that none of the studies said "coffee bad" or "coffee good".

      You know this, of course, yet you still find it funny to mock the science. This anti-intellectual attitude is the reason that science coverage is so brainless.

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  3. Glad I switched! by pgpckt · · Score: 5, Funny

    a single coffee can have adverse effects on your arteries and heart.

    Whew. That was close. Glad I switched to espresso!

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  4. Get your caffeine somewhere else! by sachachua · · Score: 3

    I'm not a coffee drinker - it's too bitter (even mocha tastes weird) and I haven't gotten used to it yet.

    I like chocolate. Chocolate's great. The sugar'll probably be Very Bad for me later, though. No win.

    What about tea?

    1. Re:Get your caffeine somewhere else! by Erbo · · Score: 3, Interesting
      For that matter, what about Penguin Mints? Or Coke? Or all that other caffeinated stuff?

      I'm wondering if the study's confusing the effects of caffeine with the effects of all the other alkaloids and stuff present in coffee. If they're not, boy, am I screwed :-).

      Eric

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  5. addictive qualities by fetta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's easy to test out the health effects of caffeine - just give it up for a month.

    Every 6 months or so, I quit caffeine cold turkey - no soda, no coffee, etc. The first 3-4 days are miserable - headaches, fatigue, etc. After that I start feeling much better, sleeping better, having more energy, etc. It's pretty clear that I feel better and healthier without that morning copy of coffee.

    Of course, then some deadline pops up and I'm back to drinking 2 cups of coffee and a six pack of diet coke per day. What drives me nuts is that I know better - I've been through this cycle at least 5 times. Thanks God I never started smoking! If I have this much trouble giving up caffeine, I can't imagine what nicotine would do to me.

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    1. Re:addictive qualities by Van+Halen · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I can attest to this. I went completely without caffeine for about 13 months somewhere in '98-'99. I wasn't nearly as addicted as a lot of people here are, I'm sure, so it was really no big deal as far as missing it. But I noticed the same thing - I just felt better all around, despite the fact that I wasn't really living any healthier in other respects (exercise, diet, sleep, etc).

      Unfortunately, even for someone like me who doesn't have to have it every day, it's all too easy to get back into it. I broke the streak not because I really wanted a caffeinated beverage, but because I felt like 13 months was long enough. I still don't drink much caffeine in general, but no longer going for the streak meant that the door was wide open for the occasional binge when not getting enough sleep. The last two weeks are a prime example - a busy time at work plus moving to a new apartment mean not much sleep. I'm on my 4th Mountain Dew of the day as I type this and I don't feel that great. My brain may not be nodding off to sleep, but my body, and especially my heart, feels like crap.

      A day or two without caffeine and I'll be feeling much better...

  6. Shame by mwillems · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is rather a shame that society (North American society) is so obsessed now with risk aversion!

    Everything we do has good and bad affects. Coffee makes you feel good but shortens life. Good choice for each to make. Wine lessens cardiovascular degeneration but increases the chance of liver ailments. Flying gets you tere quickly but you can fall. Peanuts are wholesome food but can kill one in a million. In the USA, only the negative part of each of these equations is being seen. Playgrounds have no swigs here anymore becuase they too can be dangerous.

    Well, I for one will not worry. I make my own choices. I take calculated risks. I am aware that it all ends in tears anyway: no-one lives over 110 years and anyway, by 80, half of us have Alzheimers. Best enjoy the three score years and ten I'd say.

    Would talk more but must be off for a coffee.

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  7. Note : only short-term effects! by RobertFisher · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you actually read this article, the study only confirms that for a few hours after consuming a cup of coffee, your heart is placed under more stress. In and of itself, this does not appear to be very significant. Any vigorous physical activity will also raise your heartrate, constrict your arteries, and put your heart under more stress. It says NOTHING about long-term health consequences, which is really the main issue here.

    I recall reading several years ago that at that time, the long-term health consequences of coffee were unclear. Some adverse affects were sometimes suggested in studies, but it turns out there are tremendous confounding factors -- coffee drinkers often tend to eat lots of donuts, be less active, and so on. When the initial population of patient participants was selected as healthy health care professionals, little or no adverse affects were observed for moderate (up to a couple of cups a day) intakes of coffee.

    Bob

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  8. Precisely. by Vic · · Score: 3, Funny
    I would recommend the following strategies:

    • Have a very small first cup of coffee to minimize its effects. Subsequent cups should increase in size, as each one gets better for you.
    • Drink your second cup first, then follow it up with the first one. That will put you back to equilibrium.
    • I'm sure you can come up with more.....health is all about creativity.


    Cheers,
    vic
  9. No More Slashdot by steelwolff · · Score: 3, Funny

    No more coffee means no more reading Slashdot first thing in the morning.
    This, of course, would improve workplace productivity in the key IT depts around the nation.
    Therefore, a ban on coffee will lead to increased productivity and a rise in economic output, thereby solving the nations economic woes.

    Therefore, drinking coffee is the cause of the current economic downturn.

    But none of you have read this because you all just gave up coffee.

    Nothing wrong with this logic.

  10. coffee quotes by FarHat · · Score: 5, Funny

    * Turkish Proverb: "Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death,
    and sweet as love."
    * Sheikh Abd-al-Kadir (1587): "No one can understand the truth until
    he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness."
    * Sir James MacKintosh (18th century philosopher): "The powers of a
    man's mind are directly proportional to the quantity of coffee he
    drank."
    * Johann Sebastian Bach (1732, an aria from his 'Kaffee-Kantate'):
    "Ah! How sweet coffee tastes! Lovlier than a thousand kisses,
    sweeter than muscatel wine! I must have my coffee..."
    * David Letterman (Esquire Interview Fall '94): "If it wasn't for
    coffee, I'd have no discernible personality at all."
    * Chris Egolf (1993): "This damn pot is too fucking slow!"
    * Wise New York City Homeless Man (1996, to Chris Egolf): "Son, you
    need to get some coffee in you so people know you're alive!"

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  11. Play: Caffiene and Quake by leonbrooks · · Score: 5, Funny
    Scene opens with a programmer at his keyboard, with adjacent coffee pot producing delicious, stimulating caffienated mud.

    • Begin: 100 health
    • Drink 1st coffee: 90 health
    • Drink 2nd coffee: 80 health
    • Drink 3rd coffee: 71 health (decimals omitted for simplicity)
    • Drink 4th coffee: 62 health
    • Drink 5th coffee: 53 health
    • Drink 6th coffee: 44 health
    • Drink 7th coffee: 35 health
    • Drink 8th coffee: 26 health
    • Drink 9th coffee: 17 health
    • Drink 10th coffee: 8 health
    • Drink 11th coffee: -1 health, get sideways view of the floor.

    Drink up! Yippeee...! Er...

    • Enter a tall, thin chap in a black cloak and bearing a huge white feather, who sets about banishing you to the IPT.

    Scene closes with programmer's workmates, each with coffee in hand, shaking their heads sadly as paramedics bear away a sheet-covered object on a stretcher.

    My point: less harmful is not the same as harmless.

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  12. Ban Coffee by fishbowl · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think they should ban coffee, with the same force of prohibition that they ban marijuana.
    It makes exactly as much sense.

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  13. misparsing? by merlyn · · Score: 4, Funny
    I had to read

    the intake of caffeine from a single coffee can

    three times before I figured out that it didn't mean "a coffee can", because I was trying to figure out how to drink from multiple cans instead.
  14. deadly donut by mudflat · · Score: 4, Funny

    'The findings showed that the first cup had the most significant effect because caffeine levels in the blood had dropped during the night.'

    There's a no-brainer. Drink a maintenance dose when you get up to pee in the middle of the night.

  15. Re:I take it... by Judas96' · · Score: 3, Funny

    First Dupont or some beverage company has to come out with a synthetic beverage that they wouldn't even be able to market if coffee is around, since coffee is cheaper and more effective. Then they will lobby governments to make it illegal to import, possess, deal, or drink coffee. Then we will hear about how caffiene is a "gateway drug" that leads to crack abuse and moderating on Slashdot, as well as making people believe that information wants to be free and setting up peer to peer file trading servers. Eventually we will all be brainless drones drinking a beverage that comes in something similer to an oil can that also bears remarkable resemblance and chemical makeup to said combustible engine product, and fighting eachother over which brand is the best...

  16. It's temporary, folks! by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is no big deal, unless you have high blood pressure, because the effect is very temporary. The article said "one cup hardened the blood vessels for at least two hours". It's not like you are going to need bypass surgery or something.

    If you have average blood pressure, or (as I do) slightly low blood pressure, then have some coffee to celebrate the news!

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