You took the words right out of my mouth. It is easy to tell other people how to run their lives, but such moralising seldom leads to a better society.
Um.. and it seems to me that immediately being modded down instead of entering debate confirms what I was saying about Socrates: when envy takes hold, logic goes out of the window and the hemlock is a step away. Disappointing: I had hoped for intelligent debate of the issues.
Seems to me that just like when Socrates was made to drink hemlock, the popular voice is failing to think things through, and there is more than a hint of envy in some of the comments.
First: SUVs can be entirely practical. One reason people like me pay a lot of money for an SUV, money that I could spend on three new cameras a year, is that they are so practical. I can put all my camera gear and light stands into the back, drive to a photo shoot, and get to the shooting area over mud and grass. In winter, I can get to my cottage every weekend via unpaved roads and through thick Canadian snow. I can put a barbecue (assembled!) or chairs in the back. And I do all these things - frequently. When my son goes to university 500km away in a month or so, I will pile all his stuff in the truck. There is simply no substitute. That's why I have an SUV, and always will. (I never thought I'd say that until I bought my first one, after getting stuck in the snow once too often). If you'd like to give me a ticket to California and a green card, fine. I'll drive a little convertible spider. Otherwise, SUV it is.
Then there's the "you are destroying the environment" thing. Yes, SUVs use more energy. You might even argue they use energy unnecessarily. But unless we live in 1960s Cultural Revolution China, we are ALLOWED to use energy unnecessarily. Ever stopped to think how much energy churches use (And God doesn't even exist - talk about unnecessary!)? Or sports? I bet sports and churches use more than all the SUVs in North America. Or libraries? Ballet? Having children? Wearing sneakers? Taking holidays? All a total waste of the environment. No more spring break then. And the Internet? I bet many of you who enter self-righteous comments here use more energy daily than I do (I only use my SUV when I need to, not when I feel like/. or pr0n).
The Internet and PCs are behind California's brownouts, not SUVs.
So before you start self-righteously judging other people, think. You might be next.
Spot on. We do not, in Canada, need to explain myself to gangs of roaming policemen (remember the East German Vopo's, anyone, the "Volkspolizei", or "people's police"?). And we do not want to go there.
There are also very practical reasons to push back against these schemes. A few years ago I had my briefcase stolen at a European airport. Everything in it. Passports. Credit cards. Citizenship Certificate. Social Insurance card. Driver's license. *Everything*.
So then I discovered how wrong the "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" crowd are. Terribly wrong.
I had done noting wrong. But without documents, I was no-one. Nothing. Nobody would help me. The police typed up a report (using a TYPEWRITER, in 2004 at the major airport in the Netherlands!), which took like 4 hours. Then at 4am they told me to go.
Where? You try, without documents. No car. No hotel. No food. Impossible to get any of them without docs. No ANYTHING. Amex will send you a new credit card - but ONLY if you can show two pieces of ID. The embassy will help you - if you can prove, with documents, that you are who you are. I spent a week at the Canadian consulate in The Hague trying to prove who I was. A week of just sitting there. And counting on the kindness of strangers.
It took me a year to replace most documents. I am still trying to rebuild parts of my life almost four years later. My passport is still marked 'previously stolen', leading to interrogations. My UK and European driver's licenses cannot be re-issued unless I move there: so they are gone forever. My only motorcycle licenses were on those: I can now no longer ride motorcycles as a result (before you ask: even if like me you have been riding for decades, Canada requires you to take two week courses, do theoretical training, spend weekends avoiding pylons, etc).
I also will fight to avoid any more reliance on "documents". Any of you who want more documents more often: try to have them stolen and check out your life. I think you will change your mind.
(And before you say it: the thieves were absolute pros. I have travelled for 30 years and have never before had anything stolen. I am very careful).
The sad irony is that Himmler and other leading Nazis believed something somewhat similar, namely that Aryans were created in cosmic ice (which then rained down on earth and spawned Germanic tribes).
Mmm. I posted this story as well, hours ago - but I also posted links and the Microsoft Netherlands reaction. Not sure I want to repeat all that, so I hope someone approves the post.
if not, I shall see if I can re-write it.
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The field must be walked through. Anything you think you know because you watched it on TV, or because your highschool science teacher said so, is misleading. You were being told stories, often by people with something to gain from your believing them
Nope. I had a scientific education and that means not being told stories; it means learning scientific method, and learning to distinguish fact from fiction. Of COURSE some of what I was told was wrong: and we were taught to improve on what we were taught. All still using that same scientific method.
We get to the moon using science, not feelings.
Yes, that is anecdotal, and hence useless. Plenty of people out there swear up and down that lighting a candle to teh Virgin Mary works for them, too. They may even believe it - strongly. Does not make it actually true.
In your caser, let's try it on 1,000 parents woith teething kids. 500 "real", 500 just water. Double-blind. Then measure crying intensity before and after. Let's see what happens then.
I bet it's just mum's calming presence plus attention plus some massaging that calms things down. But that is unscientific too: we need that double blind test and then we will know. Until that time, I believe you juts like I believe the Virgin Mary admirers.
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I am sorry, but that is just utter nonsense. I rarely speak so bluntly, but kin your case I am afraid it is called for.
You appear to have not even the foggiest understanding of logic or science. Science is not "conventional understanding", science is the method you use to get closer and closer to an understanding of the true nature of things. 2+2=4, not whatever you want it to be.
Homeopathy either works, or it doesn't; and any good scientific test will show you which one it is. That is not feeling, that is cold logic.
Finally, if you would like to "see energy quantified", I suggest you read some physics books.
No, we are talking/analog/ cable signals. Clearlyt you cannot pick up digital without a digital box, but until now, all prviders also supply analog signals.
I have 5 TVs at home and only 3 have a digital box. I don;t want to have to buy two more!
Background: As an ex telecommunications engineer I know about reliability; as a radio ham I know about interference.
With that background, I am afraid it seems to me that he may have a good point that some industries tolerate failure (Vista bluescreens on me several times a month), while others do not - your (wired) phone, for instance, always works. A public telehpone switch or a TV transmitted do not need "reboots" - a reboot of a phone switch can take hours, so it is engineered to not need them.
So while there is a legitimate question about the validity of broadcasting TV, the fundamental point, that while it exists interference should not be tolerated, is valid. It took decades to get to reliable TV transmission, and that can all bre broken very quickly.
I would say that this is because they are intelligent and well educated.
I know, that sounds like a crass statement. But I have reflected much on this question, and I believe it to be true. The more well-informed you are, the more you reject simplistic solutions. And many of the simplistic, well-intended but wrong "solutions" are on the social (not economic) right.
Surely you do not believe this? At least I hope not. "Exposing people to things" is not bad: it is good. We would never have had the cultural revolution, communism, or nazism if people had been 'exposed to things'. Censorship never works beneficially.
Also, if 'exposing people to things' is bad, who decides what is OK to be exposed to? You? Me? In our infinite wisdom?
There are plenty of proper laws against porn, libel/slander, etc, and we do not need the Internet censored beyond these. On the contrary: only the sharing of information will liberate the world and keep/make it free.
I disagree. When I send my IP to a web site, it is because I have chosen to browse there.
In the WGA example, on the other hand, one chooses NOT to do something, and yet data is sent. That is very different to browsing voluntarily to a web site.
No, the hippies are NOT running things. I guess I am an aged hippie and if I were running things we would have a biometric/RFID passport when hell freezes over.
- Available bandwidth will increase. - Computer speed will increase. - The use of Rich Media (e.g. video!) will increase. Video, music, applications, you name it: it's big.
Usage will find many ways to start using higher bandwidth and we'd better be ready. When the web started, I put 16-color photos in web pages and even those took time to load. A web page had to pretty much be 20 kByte in size, or less. Now we transfer much larger media files all the time. This trend will continue.
We now run into limitations already. I receive 3 MB emails often that take time. Loading a few pictures from my digital camera onto my PC, or from my PC to the external hard drive, takes minutes - should take milliseconds.
Seems to me that that is what Metcalfe means, or at least in that sense, he is right.
Oh and don't forget this is a US law. While the US and Hollywood dictates to most of the world, this issue is not quite so simple. In this case, I expect that many countries (incuding all Asian countries except Japan) will ignore Hollywood's wishes.
First of all: there is an intrusion, a loss of freedom, even when the power is not abused. In the 60s, your average hippy could pretty much buy a car using cash and drive to San Franciscoi - now you need a ton of paperwork, legal docs, and so on. You can no longer buy a car using cash - not a new car anyway. Another example: in the 1960s the government did not know what I spent my money on. Now it does. That represents a serious loss of freedom even if the government does not curremtly abuse that new power. These losses of freedom may or may not be necessary, but they need robust discussion and debate before they happen.
The second point: these powers DO get abused. An example. During German occupation in WW2, the Dutch sent more Jews to the concentration camps, as a percentage of the population, than any other nation save Germany. Why? They had a very efficient tracking system that from birth to grave tracked everyone's address, race, relatives' addresses, and so on. Guess what - at the first opportunity, the new people in power abused that power and traced all Jews and sent them to their deaths. Interestingly, in the years leading up to WW2, the Dutch had a debate much like this one, and the consensus was that "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear".
Examples abound: when you give away your freedoms you (a) lose those freedoms (and the freedom to buy a printer anomymously may not seem such a big deal to you - but it IS a freedom!), and (b) over time, they sometimes get abused: you can count on a certain percentage of this happening.
OK... this is a nonsense story. 40 kV is voltage, not current. You can build up 40 kV every time you walk on a nylon carpet, or you rub against a cat's skin. We have all had sparks pass between our hand and our keyboard we sit down, or with the wall when we have had rubber shoes on.
(Tip: this is annoying, but just touch the wall with a key and you'll not feel the spark.)
Voltage is not dangerous "unless". To spark a fire you need not just voltage, but current as well. A 30 kV spark discharge from your hand at 0.1 uA (micro-ampere) would do a lot less harm than a 30 kV powerline at 100 Amps (the latter would incinerate you instantly).
To set a carpet on fire you would need quite a lot of current. If this carpet was set on fire by a shirt (how, by the way: was he rubbing his chest on the floor?), then it was a weird carpet fire waiting to happen anyway.
But of course this makes a cute story to fill an otherwise empty page. Myths always do.
I disagree. I have run OOo since October last year and do not miss it. It's there.
(And FWIW. I have a senior management position in an international company and all I do all day is write Word processor docs, spreadsheets and presentations, it seems.)
So wqhy no Linux, even at home? I;ve tried off and on but just cannot do it... the three factors, in descending order of importance, are:
1) Apps (such as Photoshop, Corel Draw, Canon Digital Photo Professional)
2) Driver and harware support
3) Polished interface - eg in Linux I cannot even consistently set fonts, or copy/paste between apps, etc).
Until these are addressed I and millions of others have no choice - it's just not possible.
We are all talking - sensibly mainly, but at cross purposes.
I have used Windows since 1.0 (really; and in*a*vision was the only app) and Linux on the desktop since Redhat 5.0. Here's why I keep coming back to Windows all the time:
a) Apps. I need Photoshop, Canin Digital Photo Professional, Corel Draw and a few others. 90% what I do is OOo and browsing, but those 10% I cannot live without. Yes I know the Gimp and so on - sorry, not there.
b) Still too complex. Fonts are a nightmare. Printer server always takes days. Disk combinations that are supported easily by WIn (e.g. one IDE drive and one Serial ATA 100 drive) do not get recognised. And so on. I mean, we do not even have one COPY and PASTE combination that works across apps!
The showstopper is (a) of course. (b) you can work around if you want to or have to.
Some of you here make the point "why does it matter, we do not want to make converts". Well, that is circular: the article asks "why are we not making enough of them", so presumably we do.
And we DO. The more people use Linux, the more apps there will be, and the easier life gets for you and me all. If you buy a pro digital camera you have to buy a Mac or PC - end of story. And I want that to end one day because I want the stability, control, server features, and multiple desktops I can have in Linux.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. It is easy to tell other people how to run their lives, but such moralising seldom leads to a better society.
Um.. and it seems to me that immediately being modded down instead of entering debate confirms what I was saying about Socrates: when envy takes hold, logic goes out of the window and the hemlock is a step away. Disappointing: I had hoped for intelligent debate of the issues.
Seems to me that just like when Socrates was made to drink hemlock, the popular voice is failing to think things through, and there is more than a hint of envy in some of the comments.
/. or pr0n).
First: SUVs can be entirely practical. One reason people like me pay a lot of money for an SUV, money that I could spend on three new cameras a year, is that they are so practical. I can put all my camera gear and light stands into the back, drive to a photo shoot, and get to the shooting area over mud and grass. In winter, I can get to my cottage every weekend via unpaved roads and through thick Canadian snow. I can put a barbecue (assembled!) or chairs in the back. And I do all these things - frequently. When my son goes to university 500km away in a month or so, I will pile all his stuff in the truck. There is simply no substitute. That's why I have an SUV, and always will. (I never thought I'd say that until I bought my first one, after getting stuck in the snow once too often). If you'd like to give me a ticket to California and a green card, fine. I'll drive a little convertible spider. Otherwise, SUV it is.
Then there's the "you are destroying the environment" thing. Yes, SUVs use more energy. You might even argue they use energy unnecessarily. But unless we live in 1960s Cultural Revolution China, we are ALLOWED to use energy unnecessarily. Ever stopped to think how much energy churches use (And God doesn't even exist - talk about unnecessary!)? Or sports? I bet sports and churches use more than all the SUVs in North America. Or libraries? Ballet? Having children? Wearing sneakers? Taking holidays? All a total waste of the environment. No more spring break then. And the Internet? I bet many of you who enter self-righteous comments here use more energy daily than I do (I only use my SUV when I need to, not when I feel like
The Internet and PCs are behind California's brownouts, not SUVs.
So before you start self-righteously judging other people, think. You might be next.
Spot on. We do not, in Canada, need to explain myself to gangs of roaming policemen (remember the East German Vopo's, anyone, the "Volkspolizei", or "people's police"?). And we do not want to go there.
There are also very practical reasons to push back against these schemes. A few years ago I had my briefcase stolen at a European airport. Everything in it. Passports. Credit cards. Citizenship Certificate. Social Insurance card. Driver's license. *Everything*.
So then I discovered how wrong the "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" crowd are. Terribly wrong.
I had done noting wrong. But without documents, I was no-one. Nothing. Nobody would help me. The police typed up a report (using a TYPEWRITER, in 2004 at the major airport in the Netherlands!), which took like 4 hours. Then at 4am they told me to go.
Where? You try, without documents. No car. No hotel. No food. Impossible to get any of them without docs. No ANYTHING. Amex will send you a new credit card - but ONLY if you can show two pieces of ID. The embassy will help you - if you can prove, with documents, that you are who you are. I spent a week at the Canadian consulate in The Hague trying to prove who I was. A week of just sitting there. And counting on the kindness of strangers.
It took me a year to replace most documents. I am still trying to rebuild parts of my life almost four years later. My passport is still marked 'previously stolen', leading to interrogations. My UK and European driver's licenses cannot be re-issued unless I move there: so they are gone forever. My only motorcycle licenses were on those: I can now no longer ride motorcycles as a result (before you ask: even if like me you have been riding for decades, Canada requires you to take two week courses, do theoretical training, spend weekends avoiding pylons, etc).
I also will fight to avoid any more reliance on "documents". Any of you who want more documents more often: try to have them stolen and check out your life. I think you will change your mind.
(And before you say it: the thieves were absolute pros. I have travelled for 30 years and have never before had anything stolen. I am very careful).
See wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre
The sad irony is that Himmler and other leading Nazis believed something somewhat similar, namely that Aryans were created in cosmic ice (which then rained down on earth and spawned Germanic tribes).
Seriously.
Mmm. I posted this story as well, hours ago - but I also posted links and the Microsoft Netherlands reaction. Not sure I want to repeat all that, so I hope someone approves the post.
if not, I shall see if I can re-write it.
The field must be walked through. Anything you think you know because you watched it on TV, or because your highschool science teacher said so, is misleading. You were being told stories, often by people with something to gain from your believing them Nope. I had a scientific education and that means not being told stories; it means learning scientific method, and learning to distinguish fact from fiction. Of COURSE some of what I was told was wrong: and we were taught to improve on what we were taught. All still using that same scientific method. We get to the moon using science, not feelings.
Yes, that is anecdotal, and hence useless. Plenty of people out there swear up and down that lighting a candle to teh Virgin Mary works for them, too. They may even believe it - strongly. Does not make it actually true.
In your caser, let's try it on 1,000 parents woith teething kids. 500 "real", 500 just water. Double-blind. Then measure crying intensity before and after. Let's see what happens then.
I bet it's just mum's calming presence plus attention plus some massaging that calms things down. But that is unscientific too: we need that double blind test and then we will know. Until that time, I believe you juts like I believe the Virgin Mary admirers.
I am sorry, but that is just utter nonsense. I rarely speak so bluntly, but kin your case I am afraid it is called for.
You appear to have not even the foggiest understanding of logic or science. Science is not "conventional understanding", science is the method you use to get closer and closer to an understanding of the true nature of things. 2+2=4, not whatever you want it to be.
Homeopathy either works, or it doesn't; and any good scientific test will show you which one it is. That is not feeling, that is cold logic.
Finally, if you would like to "see energy quantified", I suggest you read some physics books.
No, we are talking /analog/ cable signals. Clearlyt you cannot pick up digital without a digital box, but until now, all prviders also supply analog signals.
I have 5 TVs at home and only 3 have a digital box. I don;t want to have to buy two more!
I am afraid I actually agree with him.
Background: As an ex telecommunications engineer I know about reliability; as a radio ham I know about interference.
With that background, I am afraid it seems to me that he may have a good point that some industries tolerate failure (Vista bluescreens on me several times a month), while others do not - your (wired) phone, for instance, always works. A public telehpone switch or a TV transmitted do not need "reboots" - a reboot of a phone switch can take hours, so it is engineered to not need them.
So while there is a legitimate question about the validity of broadcasting TV, the fundamental point, that while it exists interference should not be tolerated, is valid. It took decades to get to reliable TV transmission, and that can all bre broken very quickly.
I would say that this is because they are intelligent and well educated.
I know, that sounds like a crass statement. But I have reflected much on this question, and I believe it to be true. The more well-informed you are, the more you reject simplistic solutions. And many of the simplistic, well-intended but wrong "solutions" are on the social (not economic) right.
"...too many people are exposed to things"?
Surely you do not believe this? At least I hope not. "Exposing people to things" is not bad: it is good. We would never have had the cultural revolution, communism, or nazism if people had been 'exposed to things'. Censorship never works beneficially.
Also, if 'exposing people to things' is bad, who decides what is OK to be exposed to? You? Me? In our infinite wisdom?
There are plenty of proper laws against porn, libel/slander, etc, and we do not need the Internet censored beyond these. On the contrary: only the sharing of information will liberate the world and keep/make it free.
Michael
Me too. Works fine and my local Staples stocks the cartridge.
But I also have an HP color deskjet photo printer for full size color prints. Best of both worlds.
Hang on a sec. The fact that source is open does NOT mean that "everyone" has to look at it. The point is that:
a) Everyone CAN look at it (s o no backdoors will be implemented)
b) Some people actually DO look at it (so more bugs tend to be found by a wider audience, more quickly).
c) Many WOULD look at it if they needed to (a really urgent issue can be solved locally if need be).
So yes, of course Open Source is good if you want safer software.
Michael
I disagree. When I send my IP to a web site, it is because I have chosen to browse there.
In the WGA example, on the other hand, one chooses NOT to do something, and yet data is sent. That is very different to browsing voluntarily to a web site.
No, the hippies are NOT running things. I guess I am an aged hippie and if I were running things we would have a biometric/RFID passport when hell freezes over.
True enough - except we pretty much know that:
- Available bandwidth will increase.
- Computer speed will increase.
- The use of Rich Media (e.g. video!) will increase. Video, music, applications, you name it: it's big.
Usage will find many ways to start using higher bandwidth and we'd better be ready. When the web started, I put 16-color photos in web pages and even those took time to load. A web page had to pretty much be 20 kByte in size, or less. Now we transfer much larger media files all the time. This trend will continue.
We now run into limitations already. I receive 3 MB emails often that take time. Loading a few pictures from my digital camera onto my PC, or from my PC to the external hard drive, takes minutes - should take milliseconds.
Seems to me that that is what Metcalfe means, or at least in that sense, he is right.
Oh and don't forget this is a US law. While the US and Hollywood dictates to most of the world, this issue is not quite so simple. In this case, I expect that many countries (incuding all Asian countries except Japan) will ignore Hollywood's wishes.
CNN reports http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/12/09/mizuho. error.main.reut/index.html /. on this if you don't mind.
that the error cost "up to $224 million". I prefer to trust CNN to
Afraid I don't share your optimism.
First of all: there is an intrusion, a loss of freedom, even when the power is not abused. In the 60s, your average hippy could pretty much buy a car using cash and drive to San Franciscoi - now you need a ton of paperwork, legal docs, and so on. You can no longer buy a car using cash - not a new car anyway. Another example: in the 1960s the government did not know what I spent my money on. Now it does. That represents a serious loss of freedom even if the government does not curremtly abuse that new power. These losses of freedom may or may not be necessary, but they need robust discussion and debate before they happen.
The second point: these powers DO get abused. An example. During German occupation in WW2, the Dutch sent more Jews to the concentration camps, as a percentage of the population, than any other nation save Germany. Why? They had a very efficient tracking system that from birth to grave tracked everyone's address, race, relatives' addresses, and so on. Guess what - at the first opportunity, the new people in power abused that power and traced all Jews and sent them to their deaths. Interestingly, in the years leading up to WW2, the Dutch had a debate much like this one, and the consensus was that "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear".
Examples abound: when you give away your freedoms you (a) lose those freedoms (and the freedom to buy a printer anomymously may not seem such a big deal to you - but it IS a freedom!), and (b) over time, they sometimes get abused: you can count on a certain percentage of this happening.
Michael
OK... this is a nonsense story. 40 kV is voltage, not current. You can build up 40 kV every time you walk on a nylon carpet, or you rub against a cat's skin. We have all had sparks pass between our hand and our keyboard we sit down, or with the wall when we have had rubber shoes on.
(Tip: this is annoying, but just touch the wall with a key and you'll not feel the spark.)
Voltage is not dangerous "unless". To spark a fire you need not just voltage, but current as well. A 30 kV spark discharge from your hand at 0.1 uA (micro-ampere) would do a lot less harm than a 30 kV powerline at 100 Amps (the latter would incinerate you instantly).
To set a carpet on fire you would need quite a lot of current. If this carpet was set on fire by a shirt (how, by the way: was he rubbing his chest on the floor?), then it was a weird carpet fire waiting to happen anyway.
But of course this makes a cute story to fill an otherwise empty page. Myths always do.
I disagree. I have run OOo since October last year and do not miss it. It's there.
(And FWIW. I have a senior management position in an international company and all I do all day is write Word processor docs, spreadsheets and presentations, it seems.)
So wqhy no Linux, even at home? I;ve tried off and on but just cannot do it... the three factors, in descending order of importance, are:
1) Apps (such as Photoshop, Corel Draw, Canon Digital Photo Professional)
2) Driver and harware support
3) Polished interface - eg in Linux I cannot even consistently set fonts, or copy/paste between apps, etc).
Until these are addressed I and millions of others have no choice - it's just not possible.
Michael
We are all talking - sensibly mainly, but at cross purposes.
I have used Windows since 1.0 (really; and in*a*vision was the only app) and Linux on the desktop since Redhat 5.0. Here's why I keep coming back to Windows all the time:
a) Apps. I need Photoshop, Canin Digital Photo Professional, Corel Draw and a few others. 90% what I do is OOo and browsing, but those 10% I cannot live without. Yes I know the Gimp and so on - sorry, not there.
b) Still too complex. Fonts are a nightmare. Printer server always takes days. Disk combinations that are supported easily by WIn (e.g. one IDE drive and one Serial ATA 100 drive) do not get recognised. And so on. I mean, we do not even have one COPY and PASTE combination that works across apps!
The showstopper is (a) of course. (b) you can work around if you want to or have to.
Some of you here make the point "why does it matter, we do not want to make converts". Well, that is circular: the article asks "why are we not making enough of them", so presumably we do.
And we DO. The more people use Linux, the more apps there will be, and the easier life gets for you and me all. If you buy a pro digital camera you have to buy a Mac or PC - end of story. And I want that to end one day because I want the stability, control, server features, and multiple desktops I can have in Linux.
Mike