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Cowboy Bebop Back on Toonami
Deliri...uhmmm writes: "Cowboy Bebop, which was not shown last week on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim, is back this week. Apparently it was just a temporary reaction to the events of 9.11. Here is the The Adult Swim website" Does anyone have any word on the return of Mobile Suit Gundam? Anyway, Cowboy Bebop is simply one of the best shows ever made and I'm glad that Cartoon Network isn't dropping it. I hope they show more Anime, and maybe someday we could even get a dedicated Toonami channel.
...the official site has plenty of info, pictures, director's comments, and even trailers for the upcoming movie "Heaven's Door".
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Nice to see CN giving us something we loved. I'd have hated to see Adult Swim cancelled because of the recent tragic events.
Links (still plain-text):
http://www.cowboybebop.com/english/door/index.h
http://www.cowboybebop.com/english/index.html
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005QC
I know people have already mention this on previous issues, but we are creating a world like ni the book 1984. After the recent tragedy we are suddenly censoring everything remotely violent. It is as if we are trying to erase these things from history. Its not like this is the first time that people have died before. The deaths of these people are not changed if suddenly we don't show violent shows on TV. Death is death. You cannot censor fate.
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I never liked how the series episodes weren't connected. I mean... I know they are just a little bit, but the series is not the epic anime I'm looking for. I mean after Lain It was a bit of a let down because the plot was always solved in half hour bite-sized chunks. Awesome music tho.
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Well I don't have a TV in my dorm, but I'd like to announce that my laptop has also returned to playing Cowboy Bebop on Divx after a respectfull pause for the victims.
Actually, I was kinda dissappointed by the Brak show; it just doesn't match up to Space Ghost. But then what can I expect? CN will never top that one.
Now my replay doesn't keep recording WB cartoons instead of Cowboy Bebop. I hate to sound insensitive, but at a time like this, it's nice to kick back and watch some 'toons & anime instead of the news for just a little bit and my replay recorded lots of news instead .. (took a bit for the channel guide to update the programming changes).
My Tivo told me about this this morning...
I'll just note here that if you like cowboy bebop but don't have the soundtrack go and get it now! There are a little over 50 very cool songs that are very easy to come by mp3 style. The only one that I can't find is the song that plays during the 'tongpu' assasin experiment part. It wasn't on the soundtrack because that episode (like many others) were cut from airing because of violence, but many episodes that were cut still had songs that made it onto the soundtrack.
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And we wonder why the media is full of so much horrible shit. When a train wreck like Bebop is "one of the best show ever made" -- a show which features less character development in two dozen episodes than your average daytime soap has between commercial breaks (while having about the same number of completely predictable stereotypes) -- can we really sit around and question why the MPAA and RIAA turn out crap over and over and over again?
According to Jerry Chu, Bandai's marketing guy, Mobile Suit Gundam should return to Toonami in October, and probably early October. However, Cartoon Network and Bandai frequently have different ideas about when Bandai's series will be airing on Cartoon Network.
I'm on my first time through the series and need my Bebop fix!
Side note: Cartoon Network needs to stop following the recent marketroid trend of showing some random corporate logo in the corner of the screen and shut off the bright orage Adult Swim logo so the eye is naturally drawn to the show and not that damn logo...
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While I can understand the need for compassionite sensitivity during such events, the issue of censorship really comes out. I was glad to see Conan O'Brien back on the air - certainly his job had much to suffer by trying to do something immediately after the attacks, and I think it was for the best that his show was put on hold. But to not show certain shows and to not play certain songs is a bit more questionable. These are segments produced before the event, and can help people reflect on what is happening simply because of that fact. I'm glad that many (my local community radio, KBOO being one of them) chose this option.
/. readers) such things are an outlet, a playground for the mind to explore the ideas with the depth that they deserve rather than stifling any response other than instinctive reaction.
Are there really any good arguments for taking shows like this off the air, even for a little while? Think about it, and comapre any such arguments to the idea that video games inspire violent behaviour in children. To me (and I'm sure many enlightened
What happened to episide 6
I don't see how we would define anime for such a channel.. japanese origins only? What makes anime anime?
I would want a toonami with Aeon Flux and without any $MON {Poke, Digi, etc} shit on it for instance.
Anime is a cultural distinction within animation, sort of like the one drawn between cinema and movies.
Like the latter distinction, "anime" is purely subjective.
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Thank God. Until I got to that last sentence, I thought they were going to forget to link to AnimeFu.
Trust me, we would have ALL been worse off...
Cowboy bebop was never meant to be epic, if I you mean epic as in giant scope. The focus of the show is very much on the characters and having fun, which is served very well by the 'half hour bite-sized chunks.'
Although I understand your disappointment at the lack of connectivity. I'd have liked the Spike - Vicious - Julia relationship to be fleshed at a little bit more throughout the entire show, but considering how Spike had surpressed his past, it may be better the way it is, his past suddenly catches up with him, as the back of the last DVD says.
I was watching last night and was surprised to see that while they showed session #5 "ballad of fallen angels", one of the more violent episodes IMHO, they did not show session #6 "sympathy for the devil". They just skipped it entirely and showed #7 instead. On some level I can understand this because #6 is kind of intense, but it was on at 12:30 at night and you just showed people getting cut up with swords not a half hour before. Other then that thought I have been pleased with the lack of editing that they have been able to get by with so far. Also I think that I would rather them just not show an episode then cut it so heavily that they mess up the story.
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I have been wanting to see #6, but have no idea why they skipped that one. Anyone know something I don't?
the last thing any broadcaster wants is to be accused of dealing with a heavy situation like this in poor taste. Therefore, we have Jon Stewart weeping like a baby on the first Daily Show Broadcast. Everyone feels like they must apologise for continuing with their lives after this, and people who used to make fun of dubya feel they must repent now that current public opinion places him right up there with Jesus. You won't be seeing any new episodes of That's My Bush! Anytime soon.
But you're right, people should just relax a little. People need to laugh- not in spite of the situation but BECAUSE of it!
I watched Cowboy Bebop last night (Sunday). It seems that despite Cartoon Network's assurances to the contrary, a number of things were censored. The first one I noticed was the faux-nude magazine photos in Episode 5 (Ballad of Fallen Angels), which had swimsuits painted over the original images. Also, the scene at the opera in which it shows Mao Yenrai's slit throat was noticeably doctored up so as to show no blood around Mao's throat.
While those two censorings were marginally understandable, it also seems that they cut out Episode 6 (Sympathy for the Devil) completely and went straight to Episode 7 (Heavy Metal D). I'm not certain why they decided to cut that episode out, but I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the episode has (what looks like) a little boy being shot in the forehead.
I can't wait to see what they do with the next episode, Waltz for Venus, with it having a hijacking in the very beginning and all...
For those who still don't realize it, toonami is not the only source of anime on US tv. PBS has showings every once in a while, and the International Channel is currently showing Irresponsible Captain Tylor subbed. Just take a glace through your TV guide every once in a while. You might be surprised what you find.
I sort of liked how the plot worked; you have the large plot, which you find out about very slowly over the course of the series (character's back stories, etc), and you have the episode plots, which get resolved each episode. It sort of makes it feel like just regular life, until the slow things come up.
While I really like the epic anime I've seen, I'd hate to watch it one episode a day or week. Watching a couple of episodes of Escaflowne out of order was bad enough when I could see the ones I missed when I got some free time with the VCR...
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Anyways, episode 5, 'Ballad of Fallen Angels'. One of the best episode, and marks the first appearence of Vicious. And with a name like that, it's sure to be bloody. Most of the gore seemed intact, although it seemed, but not positive(90% positive) that some blood spraying was digitally removed from the Church battle. And the blood on Mao's neck when Faye first runs into him and Vicious at the opera. And they put 'swimsuits' on the girls in the porno mag. Overall, rather good and I applaud CN for actually showing the series with so few edits and stuff(not 1 second of footage was left out.).
Episode 6, 'Sympathy For The Devil'. Never aired. Why? Your guess is as good as mine why CN skipped it, even though it mentions the Gate accident 50 years ago, which gives some insight on why the Earth is the way it is.
Episode 7, 'Heavy Metal Queen'. yes, VT *is* a woman, reguardless of what the voice actor and the artwork would leave you to believe at first. Nothing noticable was edited, and it is interesting to see what becomes of Woody Allen(or at least people that look like him) in the future(notice the name of the place Faye ran into him unknowingly was?)
Next Episode, number 8, 'Waltz For Venus'. Expect it to meet the fate of episode 6. According to CN's schedule, it won't appear. Why? Cause it starts off with middle eastern looking terrorists trying to hijack a space plane.
Well, enough rambling for me,
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Would be better if they ran them in order ... alst night they ran #5, then #7 (?????).
It was the first time I watched CB, and I wasn't that impressed. CN needs to get Trigun on the air.
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Ugh.... I comment about the show Cowboy Beepop as the story is about and someone moderates me as off-topic. Classic.
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I know this is kinda unrelated, but.. Does anyone know why Comedy Central is showing the SAME episodes of the same shows over and over again? Since last Tuesday I've seen the episode of SNL with Ben Stiller more times than I can count. My tivo seems to think they all should be different episodes, but that's not what they're actually airing. They've thrown in a few of the really old episodes from the first season too, but it's been a lot of Ben Stiller... It's not just SNL, but the most obvious one I've seen.
Congrats to Cowboy Bebop's return..
A lot of people are complaining about editing and shows being cut but we've got to understand that CN is probably under a lot of pressure due to what's been going on.. CN isn't the only station that's had to go over their material the past week or so.. Other primetime shows are also being looked over because of their content and possibly won't be shown or at least portions of them will be edited.
People need to be more appreciative of what CN does show.. considering the network is mostly child-oriented. Violence in cartoons has been around for years and unfortunately it seems only certain genre are being targeted for that violence but, again, CN is under much pressure and they're doing what they can.. even if it's not gone about the best way
You watched "Ballad of Fallen Angels" (up there with Jupiter Jazz and Real Folk Blues as one of the high points in the series) and were disappointed? I love Trigun too, but what was it that disappointed you exactly?
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cartoons are for kids!
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I'd say that the situation is much more Fahrenheit 451 than 1984. We're dealing with self-censoring corporations that anticipate public backlash.If it offends, or possibly offends, cut it. It's a dangerous game, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
Fuck censorship.
Some cool anime like Cowboy Bebop maintain the average art, it's an interesting one.
What's anyone thinks about Blue Gender? When I knew it was directed by, huh...(nothing against the family) a Saban I did imaginated an "animated Power Rangers", but in truth the result in my opinion is far above over that I've expected.
I think Taco is stark raving mad.
I went to the Anime Weekend Atlanta 7 this past Saturday, mainly to see what the folks from Cartoon Network had to say at 2pm. Anyway, it turned out to just be some of the editors and planners for the actual Toonami segments (like with Tom and the Absolution) but they knew enough of what was going on with the schedule. They said that the reason they pulled CB for the week was because someone called and complained about the re-airing of the show on the Thursday following the events of 9-11. If you recall, one of the the episodes had the terrorists that were going around blowing stuff up...just one of those little coincidences and a knee-jerk reaction by someone looking to make life better for everyone becuase they think it best.
Sorry, got to rambling there, but that is the reasoning, straigh from CN.
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You'd probably like Key The Metal Idol, then. Originally aired as 13 30 minute episodes, and 2 90 minute movies. Every episode is a continuation of the previous.
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I first started with the Trigun series and was unimpressed with the initial episode but I gave the 2nd and then the 3rd episode a try and I was hooked. Each episode built on the last, adding depth, plot and substance to the series. I was truely impressed with the world that was built and emmotion that I felt at the conclusion of Trigun.
I then eagerly dug into the Cowboy Bebop series expecting a similar experience. In all honesty I was sorely disappointed. In my opinion, none of the characters were particularly well developed and the episodes were a mixed bag plot wise.
I would be intrested in hearing some others thoughts on the comparison and why Cowboy Bebop is such a favorite.
who gives a floating orange colored brick shaped shit?
clearly, a good number of people. Many, even, are so close in society to you that they hangout on the same internet message boards.
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and then you get it again....some one has it in for you :(
they are PBS member so if enough people from another PBS member station raised a stink they could get on the copies for a cheap price I am sure. KTEH is ALWAYS looking for another source of money :)
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
It was gone for a while, but aqccording to www.gundamproject.com (see my previous comment for links.
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More (more like an intro) Heaven's Door info can be found here:
http://www.shift.jp.org/058/cowboybebop/
When I was reviewing it I had problems figuring out what "Their groovy way to live just with their desire!" meant, so I left it the way it was.
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During one of the Cowboy Bebop time slots last week, they showed some classic Friz Freleng cartoons. Right after the one with Bugs Bunny playing a Franz Liszt composition on the piano (Rhaspody Rabbit?), they featured one with people building a skyscraper in time to music. As the building reached completion, a flag was raised at the top that read "Umpire State". Then one of the characters slammed the door at the bottom, and the entire thing came tumbling down into a pile of bricks.
Talk about a mistake -- it's one thing to continue showing previously scheduled Cowboy Bebop episodes despite the tragedy (something that I would support), but it's a whole new level of tastelessness to go out of your way to preempt the existing programming and show what they did.
Also in SFTD, there is a scene that shows a character falling from a high-rise window to his death a few minutes later. No, the impact isn't what kills him...Spike catches him with the Swordfish. Tenuous connection to WTC, but one that can be taken the wrong way nontheless.
What's interesting is that on Monday, the new Dragonball Z epsiode "The Newest Super Saiyan" opened up with an aircraft on a crash course with Satan City with closeups of an engine on fire and lots of passengers staring in fear out the windows. That, to me, has much more of a connection with WTC than anything you'd find in "Sympathy for the Devil."
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Argh. I can't get to adultswim.com because Bess (those dumbasses) thinks it's a porn site. Are there nekkid pictures of Brak's mom on there somewhere? Hubba hubba!
I think if we've learned anything about the cartoon network's programming choices the resulting all anime network would run Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z through no less than 12 hours of the day. That's well over ten hours of screaming grunting animated powering up my friends, wooo hoooo.
Nooo! Then I'd never be able to get up off the couch or sleep for fear of missing something! Aaaugh!!! I'd shrivel away to nothing! ;)
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Yea I was quite sad when I saw Warner Brothers on instead of Cowboy Bebop and I fell in love with this show so much. I went and bought the DVD series but still waiting for it in the mail since even the mail is delayed ;(.