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Hackers are 'Terrorists' Under Ashcroft's New Act

Carlos writes "Most computer crimes are considered acts of terrorism under John Ashcroft's proposed 'Anti-Terrorism Act,' according to this story on SecurityFocus. The Act would abolish the statute of limitations for computer crime, retroactively, force convicted hackers to give the government DNA samples for a special federal database, and increase the maximum sentence for computer intrusion to life in prison. Harboring or providing advice to a hacker would be terrorism as well. This is on top of the expanded surveillance powers already reported on. The bill could be passed as early as this week. I feel safer already."

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  1. oh, crap... by hugg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn, we /.'ed the securityfocus server... that's a DOS attack, isn't it?

    Quick, smash your DSL modems, clear your logs, and run for the hills before the Feds arrive!

  2. hmmm by the_other_one · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft regularly gives advice to hackers with this thing called the Knowlege Base.

    They even have a program (IIS) that aids hackers in break in attempts.

    Their new advertisement advocates the destruction of buildings.

    This is clearly one of the worst terror organizations

    The US and it's allies must take action

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  3. USA harbors terrorists! by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 3, Funny
    Lets see, Kevin Mitnick is a hacker, a hacker is a terrorist, Mitnick is in the USA = USA harbors terrorists. The USA did not execute him on site.


    Is everone infected with Code Red a terrorist?

    Silly huh? Well, people thought it was silly to say that the attack would be used as an excuse to abridge our rights further.

  4. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by Alan · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... so the entire IIS team will be in the slammer RSN huh? :)

  5. Re:Six degrees of separation. by dillon_rinker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, criminal statutes have to be pretty explicit. You can't convict someone of a crime unless it's on the books. If goose-whacking is a crime, and you try but fail to whack a goose, they can't convict you of attempted goose-whacking, because there's no law against attempted goose-whacking. If you talk to people about your plans to whack a goose, they can't convict you of conspiracy to commit goose-whacking because there's no law against conspiring to goose-whack.

    Naturally, it takes a politically-connected DA about a month to remedy the situation, particularly if goose-whackers are a mostly misunderstood minority...

  6. Re:My DNA? by ttyRazor · · Score: 4, Funny

    So they can get your DNA off of that public anonymous terminal keyboard you used to used, duh. Be sure to use rubber gloves and scrape dead skin off like in Gattica from now on.

  7. Does that include ... ? by Lumpish+Scholar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone making life easier for a "hacker" (cracker) could be sentenced to life without parole?

    Bill Gates had better pack his bags now! ("... the most cigarettes.")

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  8. Re:Ouch! by fobbman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Husband: No, it wasn't an affair, per se. I was actually conducting some Penetration Testing and Vulnerability Assesments on her.

    Boy, was she vulnerable! Glad I was able to help her out, really!

  9. Re:Ouch! by kindbud · · Score: 3, Funny

    I conduct Penetration Testing and Vulnerability assesments for a living.

    That's why John Ashcroft will be needing a DNA sample from you.

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  10. Re:So murder is less of an offense than hacking? by statusbar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, murder is less of an offense than hacking.

    Hacking a military site can affect THOUSANDS of lives and national security.

    --jeff

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  11. security through imprisonment. by _ph1ux_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    John Ashcroft announced today that the NSA has devised a fool proof deterance to E-terrorism. The new method is called Security-Through-Imprisonment, or STI.

    The premise of STI is that civilian and military systems dont need to be secured, but instead laws need to be put in place that will require life sentances for so much as a failed telnet login attempt.

    In response to our questions Ashcroft had the following statement: "Everyone is aware that securing Microsoft products is as futile as the war-on-drugs(TM), so we decided that rather than attempting to fix the systems - we will just send these E-Terrorists to prison for life for their crimes against Freedom(R). It is important for us to protect-our-children's(TM - H. Clinton) future in the wake of this terrible tragedy. Our new policy is called "If you cant do the right thing, then just do something"

  12. Re:Somebody has to say it, but... by 1010011010 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I suppose I could go to jail now over that stupid cuecat stuff.

    Sigh.

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    Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
  13. Re:Now hang on just a sec... by Surak · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't mind increase survelance powers in order to fight terrorism. However, scrawling "I love you Crystal" or some such on some web page is not terrorism.

    I've said this before, but it's worth repeating. The laws that apply in the real world should apply in the cyber world.

    Defacing a web face is the same as spraying some grafitti on a wall. Stealing credit card numbers or private information is the same as theft. Bringing down a government web site is sabotage. These should be dealt with the same as they are in the real world.

    Defacing a web site is vandalism, and therefore should be treated as a misdemeanor. Stealing credit card numbers or private information would be a misdemeanor or a felony depending on how much was stolen and how much it's worth. Sabotage, deliberate, willful destruction of government property, including websites, *is* terrorism and should be dealt with as such.

    I don't see why this is so frickin' hard. :-)