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Gameboy Advance Frontlight Success

skirch writes: "Remember Portablemonopoly.com? Well, Adam finally has a great working prototype (with some great pics) that he was able to hack together for about $30. Not that $30 is bad, but he mentions a possible group order, and I'm sure that would bring the price down quite a bit. He estimates that it will only diminish the GBA's battery life by 25-30%. Original Slashdot post."

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  1. Portable Monopoly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought that was Windows CE? Have I been misinformed?

  2. GBA is a handheld, and he made it better. by Maul · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only big thing lacking on it was a lighted screen, from my POV, and this guy solved the problem. I'm very interested in this hardware hack for my own GBA.

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  3. This guy has style by kingdon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not only did he go off and build something instead of just whining, but I also was amused by the part from the mini-FAQ in which he responds to people who whine and complain and tell him he has it all wrong: "Enough already! I don't care whether or not you think what I am going is a waste of time. If you think this site is pointless or retarded, dear God save me the bandwidth and take your ass elsewhere."

    1. Re:This guy has style by pangloss · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I thought the same thing. Here's a (Score: 5) post from the original Slashdot article:

      A backlight won't help in the GBA's case. The LCD screen has reflective faceting to improve the visual quality (not to be confused with the reflective plastic cover that actually makes frontlighting the unit unbearable due to glare).

      Any light shone through the back will only succeed in "washing out" the colour due to the properties of the LCD. Personally I would have preferred an organic electroluminescent display (OLED) to this darkened LCD nightmare. OLEDs produce their own light and are more energy efficient than LCDs, let alone LCDs with backlighting.

      I'm glad Adam didn't give up on the basis of our informed community input ;) Cheers to the happy hacking spirit.
  4. It's too bad Nintendo didn't do this... by Jayde+Stargunner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's really unfortunate this wasn't implemented with the actual GBA. Engineered correctly (and maybe centered :-) this would solve many of the current GBA playability woes...and I'm certain Nitnendo could have made it more battery conservitive.

    Honestly, one is forces to use a plug-in light in almost all occasions--especialy with dark games like Circle of the Moon--so I can't think that a smaller interal light would havedrained more battery life that a Worm Lamp or Light Shield.

    And, if you think about it... Worm Lamp's and the life are only 10 bucks as standalone units, with plugins, plastic casing, and shipping materials. I can't imagine this would have raised the production cost of the GBA itself by more than 5 bucks.

    I would have gladly paid 5 bucks to make my GBA playable more than 10% of the time I feel like playing it. The screen has been the biggest deterrant for me finishing CotM and buying more than 2 games...

    But, of course... Nintendo really doesn't have to worry about another handheld coming along and being competitive. :-)

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  5. Am I the only one... by BIGJIMSLATE · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...who would rather just pay the $10 and get something like this:

    http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/p ro duct.asp?pf_id=201208

    Cool mod, but I'm cheap. The $20 I'd save might let me buy some cool GBA game like "Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen's Big Adventure". :p

    1. Re:Am I the only one... by startled · · Score: 2

      Yes, you may be the only one. All the in-production lights suck. The Glow Guard is the "best light yet", meaning it sucks slightly less than the worm light. This guy's hack definitely looks better from the pictures on his site.

  6. Re:input by Kris_J · · Score: 3, Informative
  7. Amazing... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 5, Funny

    The amazing thing is that no matter where I use my GBA it's too dark...

    ...except at work.

    The lighting conditions are just perfect in my work-cell and it seems that's the only place I'm able to get any quality GBA time in.

    "...but boss! I just can't see the screen at home or in the break room!"

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  8. Re:How hard could it be? by arbitrary+nickname · · Score: 2, Informative

    Current GBA emulators on the PC only get around 70% speed on a P3-667.

    They can probably all still be optimised... but I don't think there's much hope for a Palm, or even WinCE machine...

  9. Adam good. Nintendo bad. by motherhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love that new commercial where the kid is playing with his GBA while at church (never mind all the class inferred by that... marketing weasels...). That is just absolute bullshit. I can barely play Tony Hawk 2 in my kitchen much less a room with low amounts of ambient lighting. They had to be filming that commercial looking at each other like... "Hey, it's not my lawsuit".

    Adam is a deity. Nintendo owes every damn one of us an apology.

    He (Adam) says it best when he comments that the glass covering the Worlds Most Useless Display is more like a mirror then anything else. So all the lame "Shark Lights, Wiggie Lights, PokoLights, Very Happy Joy Fun Lights" or whatever does nothing more then throw glare over the entire screen.

    I'd pay thirty bucks to take something useless and render it otherwise.

  10. Yep, the only bad thing about the GBA.. by ikekrull · · Score: 4, Funny

    is that you can't play it in bed without having the light on, making your girlfriend mad.

    This hack has the potential to restore my relationship to pre-GBA goodness!

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    1. Re:Yep, the only bad thing about the GBA.. by ameoba · · Score: 5, Funny

      As long as you let her play with her battery operated toys, she's out of line complaining in the first place.

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  11. Re:fun times by slim · · Score: 2

    Linux on a gameboy??? You're kidding me, right? I can see the use of putting Linux on a lot of other consoles (Dreamcast, etc) since you can attach a keyboard to them. But putting it on a Gameboy would be dumb since the only form of input you'd have would be the controller.

    [sigh] Linux is an operating system. What you're used to typing 'ls' into is the shell. There is no reason whatsoever why the first program a UNIX init runs has to be a text login/shell. It could be anything. It could be something designed for a small screen, a couple of buttons and a joypad. No problem.

    Furthermore, the GBA has a linkup port, you could probably hook a terminal up to it.

    NB, the best reason I can think of for putting a UNIX on Dreamcast (Linux and NetBSD are both coming along well) is to eventually use it as a development platform for applications which do not require a keyboard (an xpilot port? please?).

  12. what about another kind of hacking? by mj6798 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I keep wondering: the Game Boy Advance is based on a 32bit ARM, it's cheap, and it runs the Cygnus toolchain. So--has anybody ported Linux to it? Are there free development tools out for it? Where's a good place to start reading up on GBA development using standard open source tools (a brief search on Google didn't reveal much)?

  13. Petition? by NitsujTPU · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Our ultimate goal with this Web site is to measure the amount of dissatisfaction with the Game Boy Advance in the form of a petition. The results will be published on this site and, of course, sent to Nintendo and many other media entities.

    If you're dissatisfied with the Game Boy Advance... Why did you buy one?

    Fight the power that... uhh... provides you with video games...damn it!

    Come on, this is along the lines of people who petitioned Prodigy to switch to the IP protocol suite (I hate when people call it TCP/IP)... Why not just change providers to one that gives you what you want?

    1. Re:Petition? by Lizard_King · · Score: 2

      OK, so which handheld gaming device would *you* switch to?

      It's not a requirement to be 100% satisfied with products that you purchase. You are allowed to give feedback to manufacturers and providers to try and improve their products.

      Point in case: I own a Jeep. I love my Jeep. There are things about my Jeep that I would love for Jeep-Eagle-Chryseler to change, but that doesn't make me want to go out and buy a different type of car.

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  14. GBA lighting by Plessiez · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm lucky that I ride the tube in London (the metro, for you yanks) every day to work. This gives me about 45 minutes to play Castlevania in perfect lighting conditions and then switch off and lose all my progress because I can't find a save room.

    The only other place I've found the lighting conditions to be good was a carpark in Texas at midday. With the sun directly overhead the screen looks great! Unfortunately after a few days of this my pasty english skin burnt to an unhealthy red, my girlfriend was irritated and wouldn't take me out in public for a week.

    1. Re:GBA lighting by iCEBaLM · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm lucky that I ride the tube in London (the metro, for you yanks)

      You mean the subway perhaps?

      -- iCEBaLM

  15. Back lit GBA! by �laC|n · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hmm.. check this out!
    According to this page, Nintendo is planning a japanese release of a new GBA WITH backlit screen in december!

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  16. GBC .LT. GBA by yerricde · · Score: 3, Informative

    but from experience with playing gbc games on my AMD k6-2 400 at home, and P3 500 at work, the speed of the emu is comparable to that of the hardware. [strong added by yerricde]

    You're comparing the Game Boy Color to the Game Boy Advance. Game Boy Color is about as complex as the old Nintendo Entertainment System to emulate, and LoopyNES (the most accurate NES emulator, available from Zophar.net's NES collection) runs at full speed on a P100. However, Super NES is about three or four times more complex as NES, and GBA is nearly twice as complex as Super NES, with two layers of Mode 7 and affine transformation (i.e. rotation/scaling) on every single sprite, but with two dumb but easy DMA channels for sound instead of a pain-in-the-ass SPC700 processor.

    Here's a comparison of GBA hardware to that of the Super NES:
    Read the rest of this comment...

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  17. No Castlevania? by shadowcabbit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find it very amusing that the games he uses to demonstrate the hack's effectiveness are Mario Kart and Advance Wars, two of the most colorful, vibrant games available. I have NEVER had any difficulty seeing the screen even in dim light while playing AW. I would be a lot more impressed if he had demonstrated Castlevania: Circle of the Moon.
    Or better yet, he should have just stopped tilting at windmills altogether. The dark color scheme problem is something that has to be worked around in software-- i.e. developers shouldn't choose varying shades of jet black on midnight blue as their color scheme. The GBA's difficult angles are just an added factor the developers and artists have to work around.
    And another thing, as long as I'm up on this soapbox. I realize that the intent of the hack was to "prove displeasure in the GBA" and prove some conspiracy-theorist-wet-dream "monopoly" on the handheld market. But there is a very simple reason why Nintendo has the only portable video game system currently, and it is the same reason why Sony has the leading console (for now) and why (gasp!) Microsoft has the leading OS. It is the software support. The GB caught on because of Tetris; the GBC because of Pokemon, and the GBA because of all of its launch titles (except maybe Iridion). PS2 has the best games released for it and coming for it (MGS2, Klonoa 2, FF10, need I go on?). Windows systems are popular because quite literally that's what everything runs on nowadays (I know there are exceptions, but I'm thinking within the context of gaming; the really big-name games are all for Win98 etc). In all cases, the "monopoly" exists because nobody bought the competition.

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