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Open Watcom Effort Makes First Public Release
epowers writes: "It's been a long time since /. ran this story, but a few days ago the Open Watcom Project made it's first public release. It's only a binary patch targeted at 11.0a/b owners, but it's still an important roadmark on the way to the planned full open source release of both the Watcom C/C++ and Fortran compilers. Most programmers, particularly game programmers, should remember the amount of prestige id software's DOOM generated for the Watcom compiler and the sudden proliferation of 32-bit DOS games with the tell-tale "DOS/4GW" startup banner. The download is available for free, but Open Watcom requests a $1-$50 donation to help support the development effort required to remove code Sybase doesn't own and to prepare the open source release."
Do you really know? I don't know.
The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred just over two weeks ago, and you people are discussing how but a few days ago the Open Watcom Project made it's first public release. It's only a binary patch targeted at 11.0a/b owners, but it's still an important roadmark on the way to the planned full open source release of both the Watcom C/C++ and Fortran compilers. My *god*, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!!!
Some of my favorite games ran in DOS 4GW....Syndicate Wars most specifically....That would be cool to play in Linux.... I think the idea of the Graviton Lance was a concept that most game engines haven't fully developed (Fire a weapon, and tendrils of energy fire in truly random directions (Not just immediate explosino area) creating collateral damage that could hinder your progress later in the game.) Not to mention that Syndicate Wars had one of the coolest openings ever made. And the concept that you were one of two plusungood factions was REALLY cool. No "heroic" marines vs. "evil" zerg, etc.
ok..that's it. Party on. eletcron maces for EVERYONE!
JoeLinux
It's a free download but you have to pay for it? Doesn't sound too free to me. Reminds me of what we did to sell lemonade when I was a kid: "Free Lemonade, only 25 Cents!". :-)
My other car is first.
That bitch can DOS/4GW my nuts anytime. Just ask the goatsex guy, she does a really good job.
"Dancing is the vertical expression of a horizontal desire" --Robert Frost
THE ULTIMATE GIF VIEWING ACCESSORY!
The other day I found an amusing and informative text file on
some BBS or other, explaining how to make a lifelike, artificial
vagina "out of common household products."
Hey, I thought, I've tried that. (Bet you have, too. Be honest.)
I was intrigued.
The guy who wrote it calls his device Porta-Pussy. It involves a
mailing tube, a string, and a balloon. Basically, you lower the
balloon into the tube, stretch the neck of the balloon to overlap
the outer edge of the tube, then use the string to stretch the
balloon down the length of the tube.
He suggests taping the tube to the edge of a table, kneeling down
and licking it for a while, then standing up and fucking it.
I just tried fucking it. It wasn't bad. I decided not to try the
advanced applications, though, which include sticking a dildo up
your ass and drinking the cum as it leaks out of the tube. Another
time, maybe.
But I did admire his imaginative design; simple to make, reasonable
facsimile, easy cleanup (throw away the balloon). His description
made fun reading, too; "How I Spell Relief." I encourage others to
download his file (called IWACK1.ZIP).
So, in a spirit of sharing, here's my technique. It doesn't look
as authentic as his, and it takes more preparation, but I think
it feels MUCH closer to the real thing. Close your eyes and the
PseudoCunt (this name just occurred to me; snappy, huh?) feels
just EXACTLY like a warm, wet, tight pussy.
You think I'm kidding, right? Nope. Read on, if you're so inclined.
CONTENTS:
1- Registration
2- Materials & Ingredients
3- Construction
4- How to Use
5- Hints & Techniques
6- Troubleshooting
7- Why I Created PseudoCunt
REGISTRATION:
Ha, ha. Get it? It's software. Real soft. If you figure
out who I am, send me some money. PseudoCunt is not
shareware, by the way. It's recommended for use alone.
MATERIALS & INGREDIENTS:
* Cylindrical container (see below)
* Large pot (3-4 quart capacity)
* Butter or margarine (2-3 tablespoons)
* Vegetable oil (just a drop or two)
* Saran Wrap or equivalent
* Spaghetti or fettucini (lots; two boxes)
* Sturdy rubber band
* Several big, firm sofa cushions (optional)
* Your favorite masturbation fantasies in magazine, video,
gif, or virtual form
CONSTRUCTION:
1- Find a suitable container. This is the tough part. The
best one I've found is an overlarge Mason-type jar (about
11" tall), though these are hard to find. Second choice
would be a length of PVC pipe sealed at one end, or a
mailing tube, but it should be at least five inches in
diameter. A half-gallon cardboard milk carton might work,
with clever modifications.
2- In a large pot, bring two or three quarts of water to
full boil. Add a tablespoon of vegetable oil and a pinch of
salt. Boil spaghetti to aldente texture (about 8 minutes).
Any pasta will do, but I find spaghetti and fettucini most
satisfactory.
3- Drain spaghetti, but do not rinse. Mix in A FEW DROPS of
vegetable oil (be CAREFUL not to use too much; use just
enough to keep the spaghetti from sticking together) and
stir well. Set aside in colander until cool enough to handle.
4- While spaghetti is cooling, melt some butter (not much; about
1/3 of one of those little butter pats you get with toast in
a diner is enough). Don't let it boil; 15-30 seconds in the
microwave should do it.
5- Stuff spaghetti into the container described in Step 1.
Really pack it in tightly; as tight as you can cram it in.
This is crucial to success. I use wooden cooking implements
to tamp it down. When the jar is about 3/4 full, bore a hole
down the center with something long and moderately thin (I
use the long handle of a wooden stirring spoon) and continue
packing spaghetti around it, up the brim. Remember to pack
tightly; spaghetti will compress a lot more than you'd think.
6- At this point, remove the rod or dowel or whatever, and
pour a SMALL amount of melted butter down into the little
hole to lubricate it. (By the way, I've found that butter or
margarine feels much more like the creamy inside of an
aroused cunt than any kind of oil; and I've tried quite a
few). Stick your finger in and work the lubrication down
into the little hole. Feels interesting, doesn't it? Close
your eyes and probe, slowly; does that feel just EXACTLY
like a wet pussy hole, or what?
7- Now, use something wider and slightly tapered to widen the
mouth of the surrogate vagina (I use the neck of a wine or
beer bottle). Do this gently, and don't widen it to your
full dick diameter; you want it to be nice and tight.
8- Cut a generous length of Saran Wrap and stretch it tightly
over the mouth of the jar. Fasten it tightly with the
rubber band. Now punch a hole in the Saran Wrap in the
obvious place. (Use a pencil, or a spoon handle, not a
knife; a sharp cut will make the Saran Wrap tear.)
HOW TO USE:
1- Pile two or more big, thick sofa cushions on top of each
other. Make an identical pile next to the first, leaving a
12-inch space between the two piles.
2- In the space between the cushions, spread a towel (or
newspaper) on the floor. If properly constructed, your
PseudoCunt should not make a mess unless you really get
carried away, but it's a good idea to protect against this
possibility.
3- Position the PseudoCunt jar on the floor between the two
cushion piles.
4- Lie across the cushion piles, chest on one, thighs on the
other, dick dangling in the space between. Now, gaze lovingly
at whatever fantasy object you prefer, tease the head of your
dick against the warm, slick mouth and begin fucking.
HINTS AND TECHNIQUES:
* Before you get started, check with your finger to make
sure your PseudoCunt has cooled to the proper temperature.
You don't want to burn yourself. Optimum temperature should
be obvious if you're a reasonably sexually active person.
Push your finger in as deeply as you can; the bottom of the
jar may be too hot even though the mouth is a nice, warm,
cuntlike temperature.
* The PseudoCunt is not recommended for quickies. Choose a
time when you're absolutely certain you'll be alone and
undisturbed. PseudoCunt takes some time to prepare, and a
fair amount of what's called in cinema and theater circles
'suspension of disbelief.' It can't be fully enjoyed if
you're worried about your wife or girlfriend walking in and
finding you fucking a jar of spaghetti.
* Size of the container is important. Make sure it is at
least two inches deeper than your dick is long, and wide
enough so that your dick is surrounded by a generous cushion
of pseudo cuntflesh. You don't want to bang up against the
hard sides or bottom of the thing at a crucial moment.
* Shape of the container is important, too. I like the jumbo
jar configuration because the "shoulders" of the jar where
the neck narrows help to keep the spaghetti in place when
you withdraw on the out-strokes.
* Don't use too much butter. A very small amount should suffice.
Remember that your own secretions will increase the lubricating
effect. It's not generally recognized that grease and oils
actually DE-sensitize erectile tissue. A thin coat of oil on
your dick is like wearing a condom. I find that the absolutely
perfect effect is achieved by adding just a *tiny* amount of
butter, then slathering saliva all over my dick just before
first penetration. The combination of butter, saliva and natural
lubrication that leaks from your dick feels closer to authentic
vagina arousal than any oil I've ever tried.
* Make adequate preparations. Arrange your favorite magazines
on the floor in front of you, or display a particularly
fascinating GIF, or make sure the VCR is cued up and the
remote is handy. One of the real joys of using PseudoCunt is
that it leaves both hands free to work the VCR remote or
languidly browse through magazines, savoring the tight cunt
sucking wetly at your dick with each slight movement of your
hips. With careful preparation it's a damned comfortable
position, and you can just lie there for as long as you please,
indulging as many fantasies as your self-control will allow.
* For best results, fuck slowly and gently on first
penetration. This allows the PseudoCunt hole to adjust to
the proper diameter.
* Don't ram your dick in to the bottom at first. Go slowly,
and try to restrain yourself as long as possible, fucking a
just a little deeper at a time. Each time you stroke a
little deeper, the PseudoCunt is a little tighter, and
incrementally warmer. The sensation is fabulous if prolonged.
I like to keep the last inch or so unpenetrated until I'm
just at the point of cumming, then grunt and howl and plunge
to the bottom and blast my sperm into the tight warmth deep
down inside.
* Sound effects, if authentic, can really heighten the effect.
Porn videos just don't do it for me. Too contrived. I have a
few audio tapes that do, though, and once in a while I'll put
on the headphones while fucking my Pseudocunt. One is a tape
I made by concealing the microphone in the headboard of the
bed before fucking my wife doggy-style (you should consider
trying this; it's incredibly arousing to hear the rutting
grunts and screams of a woman you know). The rest are
recordings of phone-sex conversations with two former
girlfriends -- one in particular, whose panting and gasping
and whimpering as she masturbates is truly phenomenal.
* Shed all inhibitions. Admit to yourself that, while this may
seem truly bizarre behavior, it feels incredibly good. Get
hedonistic. Get totally naked. Or wear leather, or panties
and a bra, or clothespins on your scrotum, whatever makes your
dick throb and ooze.
TROUBLESHOOTING
If you experience problems with your PseudoCunt, the fault most
likely lies in your choice of materials, or lack of attention to
proper construction techniques.
Commonly experienced problems usually have simple solutions:
Too hot for comfort
If too hot, allow to cool at room temperature. Don't get
impatient and put it in the freezer, or outside in a
snowbank. If it cools unevenly, you're in for a very
unpleasant surprise.
Not warm enough
If too cool, place jar in a pan of water on the stove and
simmer for at least 30 minutes. To spread heat more evenly,
make sure the water covers at least 2/3 of the jar, and
place a wire rack beneath the jar to raise it off the bottom
of the pan. If a glass jar is used, you can heat it in a
microwave oven for a minute or so. [This procedure is not
recommended if using a waxed cardboard milk carton.]
These heating techniques, by the way, are handy for repeated
use of your PseudoCunt between washings, unless you're too
squeamish for sloppy seconds.
It's also occurred to me that a hair dryer might be a quick
alternative, but I haven't tried this. I'm not sure I could
maintain a hardon or a straight face kneeling there naked
and blow-drying a jar of spaghetti.
Bits of greasy spaghetti cling to your dick on withdrawal
This is normal. While the problem cannot be eliminated
entirely, the effect can be minimized by several means:
1- Make sure spaghetti is packed in VERY tightly.
2- Use a high-shouldered jar (see above) to help keep
the spaghetti in place on the out strokes.
3- Make sure hole in Saran Wrap is not too large.
Punch, do not cut, this hole to prevent tearing.
PseudoCunt makes distracting slurping noises
You used too much butter, or oil, or both. Or you've gang-
banged your PseudoCunt one too many times and you need to
clean it out and start over again at Step 2.
Of course, if you want to fantasize about oral sex, this
could be regarded as a design feature rather than a problem.
Greasy stains on sofa cushions
My wife responds to greasy stains on upholstery by
immediately dumping a big pile of talcum powder on the
spill, letting it sit for a while, vacuuming it off later,
then calling in a professional furniture cleaner to finish
the job.
I try to avoid stains by making sure the Saran Wrap is
tightly secured with the rubber band, and by spreading a
towel over the leading edge of the sofa cushion pile. I'd
rather not have to explain PseudoCunt stains to my wife.
Fetid stench
Throw away the spaghetti and wash the damn thing. Unless
mold and bacteria growth play an essential role in your
sexual fantasies, repeated use of the PseudoCunt is not
recommended beyond, say, 24 hours. Refrigerate after use.
WHY I CREATED PSEUDOCUNT
No, I'm not a social outcast or a phobic recluse. I have a
normal sex life (pretty fabulous, actually) so I should
explain why I continued to experiment with masturbation
techniques in adulthood, long after abandoning the clumsy
remedies most teens invent to draw off excess spunk.
One reason is simply that I'm a very sensuous person with a
vivid imagination. I've found that I can occasionally attain
amazing heights of sexual arousal when I masturbate. At the
risk of sounding immodest, I've induced some of the best
orgasms I've ever had.
Another reason is that I am aware of absolutely no physical
or psychological reasons not to masturbate, and can't help
wondering if the world might not be a better place if more
people did. Whether they use fists or balloons or spaghetti.
Finally, it provides a fabulous way to indulge certain sexual
fantasies that just can't be shared no matter how skilled and
understanding one's lover may be. Know what I mean?
If you're inclined to give this thing a try, I hope it
enhances your own secret fantasies as much as it does mine.
If you have a technique of your own, write it up and post it
for others to share. If you find the whole concept disgusting,
why did you read this far?
A case of beer
Some acid
Three gerbils
Duct tape
Two young goats
A twelve-year old virgin
Nipple clamps
Four enema bags
Styrofoam penuts
A lot of lube
And a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush
Oooh boy am I gonna have fun tonight!!
Even though there's other posts here, mine was first!!!! Get it in ya!
Oh well, back to dowloading pr0n...
Pr0n K1ng
The biggest cock in recorded history occurred just over my balls, and you people are trolling slashdot telling people to get some priorities. My *god*, people, SUCK MY COCK!
They say (on the webpage) that a version is planned for Linux. Do we really need another C/C++ compiler for linux? We'd just end up with the trouble we had on DOS with people writing silly compiler dependent code and everything a big mess.
Oooh boy am I gonna suck some cock tonight!!
asd f gaw daf a sdif die
I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying technology.
I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult for, we wanted to integrate Linux into our server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.
I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3 machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The 3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise" environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted, Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour, we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the Linux boxes.
Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.
As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.
thank you.
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
Congrats, its only like 10 fucking years old now! Maybe we could get the source code to DOS 5.0 too? Wouldn't that be a fucking thrill. Then maybe they could use some of that to make Linux halfway fucking stable.
C - A language that combines the speed of assembly with the ease of use of assembly.
I wonder if this will be released under a GPL license? If so, when this puppy gets into the pulic domain, there will be anything worth merging into gcc, or vice versa? Or whether the two compilers themselves will ultimately be merged into one product?
My rights don't need management.
Squiggy, genuine Jersey Oi!
Ever drink a cock soda?.
That's some real news, not this gay shit on slashdot.
Perhaps this time next year they'll release another beta of this patch, get a little more free publicity from Slashdot, and get a few more dollars in donations. How exactly does this project qualify as open source? Just because they say it is?
More compilers means more techniques applied and evaluated, benefits from compare & contrast, ability to more easily identify errors specific to a compiler and not code, and possibly more generic code in a more diverse environment.\
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
Please try to keep posts on topic. Try to reply to other people comments instead of starting new threads. Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated. (You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page)
This OpenWatcom project has existed for over a year, claiming they will make a open source release.
Yet they still haven't released a single line of source. They haven't even decided on a license. All they did is release a binary patch.
Why don't they just rip out the stuff they can't distribute, and publish the incomplete source? At the very least, it would be a proof of their intentions.
As it stands, this thing is just a hoax.
I wish EVERY substantial Free/Open software project had a donation page pop up before download. There are several programs that I use regularly for which I would donate when downloading or upgrading.
;-)
In fact, Free/Open software is much more valuable to me than the alternatives.
So in other words, I will only pay for Free software!
(Too bad they use Amazon for their donations, for those of us boycotting them.)
Yeah, it is amazing how Win2K can keep on functioning even when it is simultaneously infected with Code Red, Sadmind, and Nimda! The data rates produced by virus-generated GET requests are most impressive, and only exceeded by the rate at which IIS with ASP leaks memory. Microsoft and its "professional full fledged development team" have truly reached a pinnacle of performance and stability!
Not a troll. 32-bit flat memory, etc. under DOS was cool in the early 90s, but really how viable is it in this day and age?
There's 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Get some PRIORITIES (Score:-1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @08:32PM (#2369452) The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred just over two weeks ago, and you people are discussing how but a few days ago the Open Watcom Project made it's first public release....
... I think the idea of the Graviton Lance was a concept that most game engines haven't fully developed (Fire a weapon, and tendrils of energy fire in truly random directions (Not just immediate explosino area) creating collateral damage that could hinder your progress later in the game.) Not to mention that Syndicate Wars had one of the coolest openings ever made....
...
[ Reply to This | Parent ] * Re:Get some PRIORITIES by dieragheads (Score:-1) Saturday September 29, @08:37PM * Suck my COCK by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Saturday September 29, @08:38PM Lol...
(Score:-1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @08:36PM (#2369463) * A case of beer * Some acid * Three gerbils * Duct tape * Two young goats * A twelve-year old virgin * Nipple clamps * Four enema bags * Styrofoam penuts * A lot of lube * And a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush
(Score:-1) by Pr0n K1ng on Saturday September 29, @08:37PM (#2369465) (User #160688 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday August 28, @10:38AM) Even though there's other posts here, mine was first!...
(Score:-1) by egg troll on Saturday September 29, @08:43PM (#2369480) (User #515396 Info | Last Journal: Wednesday August 29, @04:16PM) I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment....
(Score:-1) by egg troll on Saturday September 29, @08:46PM (#2369485) (User #515396 Info | Last Journal: Wednesday August 29, @04:16PM) Congrats, its only like 10 fucking years old now!...
(Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @08:53PM (#2369497) The Open Watcom core team has already created a binary patch update release Interesting use of the word once you take the project status [openwatcom.org] page into consideration.
Perhaps this time next year they'll release another beta of this patch, get a little more free publicity from Slashdot, and get a few more dollars in donations....
(Score:1) by reynaert on Saturday September 29, @09:06PM (#2369515) (User #264437 Info) This OpenWatcom project has existed for over a year, claiming they will make a open source release.
I piss on Mecca. I menstruate on the Koran. I shit on Mohammed.
This is great. Maybe we'll finally have a decent, free C compiler!
Facts:
4000 Jews were told to stay away from WTC Sept. 11.
Many of the people defamed as monstrous killers have been found alive and not in league with terrorists in the Middle East.
Thus the names are probably all false.
Therefore it required signifigant organizational resources to pull off the murders.
Osama bin Laden is hiding out in Afganistan do you think that if he had signifigant organizational resources that he would be there?
The only group that could have pulled off the attacks is Mossad. The Israelis are trying to kill all the Muslim people by having the Americans destroy them.
This is a vast Zionist conspiracy and must be stopped!
Proof is here
Slashdot...isn't cool anymoreby n3m6 (Score:2) Saturday September 29, @11:37PM
;-)
... I think the idea of the Graviton Lance was a concept that most game engines haven't fully developed (Fire a weapon, and tendrils of energy fire in truly random directions (Not just immediate explosino area) creating collateral damage that could hinder your progress later in the game.) Not to mention that Syndicate Wars had one of the coolest openings ever made....
...
glad to see them accept donations (Score:2)
by Dr. Awktagon on Saturday September 29, @11:08PM (#2369521)
(User #233360 Info)
I wish EVERY substantial Free/Open software project had a donation page pop up before download. There are several programs that I use regularly for which I would donate when downloading or upgrading.
In fact, Free/Open software is much more valuable to me than the alternatives.
So in other words, I will only pay for Free software!
(Too bad they use Amazon for their donations, for those of us boycotting them.)
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:glad to see them accept donations by reynaert (Score:1) Saturday September 29, @11:21PM
How much use is this in the modern era? (Score:3, Insightful)
by Ryu2 on Saturday September 29, @11:11PM (#2369528)
(User #89645 Info | Last Journal: Saturday August 18, @05:04AM)
Not a troll. 32-bit flat memory, etc. under DOS was cool in the early 90s, but really how viable is it in this day and age?
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:How much use is this in the modern era? by reynaert (Score:1) Saturday September 29, @11:28PM
Re:How much use is this in the modern era? Saturday September 29, @11:34PM
Re:How much use is this in the modern era? by rabidcow (Score:1) Saturday September 29, @11:43PM
summary so far (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @11:11PM (#2369529)
Get some PRIORITIES (Score:-1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @08:32PM (#2369452) The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred just over two weeks ago, and you people are discussing how but a few days ago the Open Watcom Project made it's first public release....
[ Reply to This | Parent ] * Re:Get some PRIORITIES by dieragheads (Score:-1) Saturday September 29, @08:37PM * Suck my COCK by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Saturday September 29, @08:38PM Lol...
(Score:-1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @08:36PM (#2369463) * A case of beer * Some acid * Three gerbils * Duct tape * Two young goats * A twelve-year old virgin * Nipple clamps * Four enema bags * Styrofoam penuts * A lot of lube * And a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush
(Score:-1) by Pr0n K1ng on Saturday September 29, @08:37PM (#2369465) (User #160688 Info | Last Journal: Tuesday August 28, @10:38AM) Even though there's other posts here, mine was first!...
(Score:-1) by egg troll on Saturday September 29, @08:43PM (#2369480) (User #515396 Info | Last Journal: Wednesday August 29, @04:16PM) I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment....
(Score:-1) by egg troll on Saturday September 29, @08:46PM (#2369485) (User #515396 Info | Last Journal: Wednesday August 29, @04:16PM) Congrats, its only like 10 fucking years old now!...
(Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @08:53PM (#2369497) The Open Watcom core team has already created a binary patch update release Interesting use of the word once you take the project status [openwatcom.org] page into consideration.
Perhaps this time next year they'll release another beta of this patch, get a little more free publicity from Slashdot, and get a few more dollars in donations....
(Score:1) by reynaert on Saturday September 29, @09:06PM (#2369515) (User #264437 Info) This OpenWatcom project has existed for over a year, claiming they will make a open source release.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]
Re:summary so far Saturday September 29, @11:57PM
Incinerate Islam. Burn Them Alive. Nuke Muslims. (Score:-1, Troll)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @11:22PM (#2369548)
Our beloved dead cry out in tortured agony:
Kill all Muslims.
Kill all Mohammedans.
Kill all Arabs.
Kill all Towel Heads.
Kill all Camel Jockeys.
Kill all Sand Niggers.
Kill all Dune Coons.
Kill all Islam.
Nuke their countries to hell.
Nuke them again.
Death to Islam.
I piss on Mecca. I menstruate on the Koran. I shit on Mohammed.
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great news! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @11:35PM (#2369569)
This is great. Maybe we'll finally have a decent, free C compiler!
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WTC Truth! (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 29, @11:53PM (#2369599)
Facts:
4000 Jews were told to stay away from WTC Sept. 11.
Many of the people defamed as monstrous killers have been found alive and not in league with terrorists in the Middle East.
Thus the names are probably all false.
Therefore it required signifigant organizational resources to pull off the murders.
Osama bin Laden is hiding out in Afganistan do you think that if he had signifigant organizational resources that he would be there?
The only group that could have pulled off the attacks is Mossad. The Israelis are trying to kill all the Muslim people by having the Americans destroy them.
This is a vast Zionist conspiracy and must be stopped!
Proof is here [allahhatesjews.com]
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the needs of over eighty- percent of the world's population.
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for out right sales techniques. Also because they are high
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18 years and each year sales have doubled almost tripled.
If your country is listed here, you are eligible to start doing
business immediately. (Argentina, India, Cyprus, Greece,
Poland, Australia, Hong Kong, Russia, Austria, Indonesia,
Portugal, Belgium, Israel, South Africa, Botswana, Italy, Spain,
Brazil, Jamaica, Swaziland, Canada, Japan, Sweden, Chile, Korea,
Switzerland, Czech Republic, Lesotho, Taiwan, Denmark, Mexico,
Thailand, Dominican Republic, Namibia, Turkey, Finland, The
Netherlands, United Kingdom, France, New Zealand, United States,
Germany, Norway, Venezuela, Philippines, Ireland, Panama,
Morocco, and China)
However, if your country is not listed here, it does not mean we
won't be there very soon. Because our company is expanding into
several countries a year, yours could be the next one to become
available. This is an optimal position to be in, one that you
will definitely want to take advantage of. Due to the fact that
countries can "open" only once in our industry, if you are one
of the first to receive this valuable information and one of the
first to start softening your market, you will belong to an
exclusive group of wealthy leaders. Our experience in 50
countries confirms this fact.
One of the strongest aspects of our business is the on going
training that is offered. We have International Training's on an
ongoing basis in most major cities. Weekly conference calls are
also available, as well as satellite television training
programs, monthly magazine's and quarterly journals. Our company
does over 1.5 billion US Dollars in business annually and you
too can be a part of this growth. Maybe some of you have tried
other businesses and failed. We welcome you with open arms. Here
you will find success because we give you the blueprint to
follow and support you need to develop your own profitable
home-based business. All we ask of you is to be coachable and be
willing to learn. We have no need for tire-kickers or window
shoppers. Please do not request our "decision package" if you
are not serious about changing the course in your life right
now. By ordering your "decision package", you will receive all
you need to get yourself moving towards financial independence.
So, if you are tired of worrying about money and tired of
choosing what you can live without, come join the thousands of
us working from home, setting our own schedules, making a
fortune and living out our dreams. We invite you to explore how
the "Work From Home" Internet Program capitalizes on today's
advancements in technology to help you build a successful
home-based business.
Have you noticed the surge of people looking to start home-based
businesses? Did you know that 32 million households now have
home-based businesses and that number grows every day? Have you
asked yourself, "Why?" Why are so many people, including
yourself, interested in working from home? Our parents never
searched for a business to operate from home nor did their
friends. So, why now and why is it suddenly so popular?
Americans are "cocooning". We want to spend less time on the
busy freeways commuting, and in over-crowded shopping malls and
replace that with spending more time at home with our families
where it is warm and safe. Apparently, we trust society less and
want to protect ourselves and our families from the "cruel"
outside world. This is the wave of the future and we are
beginning to realize with the advancement in technology, we do
not need to be in an office environment in order to access the
marketplace and make money. In today's world, the quickest way
to build a home-based business is to take advantage of the
Internet craze that has hit the United States and is quickly
spreading around the world. Like how the Gutenberg Press
radically changed the communication world in 16th Century
Europe, the Internet is revolutionizing how we communicate,
distribute information and the manner in how and where we spend
our money. It has been said that those who pursue electronic
commerce (business over the Internet) have the opportunity to
build an explosive business. While a conventional business can
cost thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars to set up and
run successfully, an Internet business costs dramatically less
and has the potential to attract international business for just
a fraction of what the traditional company would spend. On
average, 30% of all U.S. web traffic is already international
and 5% to 20% of all web sales originate from outside the United
States. Everyday, these percentages are radically increasing.
Consumers worldwide are spending 6.6 billion U.S. dollars a year
in transactions over the Internet. The awareness level and need
for users, buyers, advertisers and merchants to get onto the
Web, and to set-up shop, has dramatically changed even from one
year ago. This medium of doing business is skyrocketing, and we
are reaping the benefits, daily. If you combine the Internet
craze with people's desire to work from home and set their own
schedule, you have a powerful team, and here is why. Many people
have heard of SOHO, and no, we don't mean that hip section of
New York City, rather the S.O.H.O. which refers to "Small
Office/Home Office." One of today's biggest explosions in the
economy. The home-based business has been born out of necessity.
In an era where large corporations can only think of downsizing,
what are your options? There is no security in Corporate America
any more! Not only are tens of thousands of workers and
managers being downsized out of their companies, but also
thousands of men and women are tired of the corporate "rat race"
and want to retreat to a home-based business.
If you decide to "stick it out" in Corporate America or the
Corporate World, your choices could boil down to finding a
lucrative niche in the small business world, standing in line at
the unemployment office, or accepting a cut in pay and benefits.
We were all raised to give 9 hours work for 8 hours pay, and we
are not backing away from that. Today's large companies have no
loyalty to the employees. Their only loyalty is to the bottom
line. And the bottom line is exactly where most of us are when
it's time to cut back. Your life is suddenly turned upside down
because you have no control over your future. Someone who has no
idea of the quality of your work makes these decisions behind
closed doors or the extra time you gave the company without
requesting overtime. They don't know about your family's life:
they don't understand that you just put braces on your child's
teeth and now have to pay for them. These "decision makers" job
is to be impersonal and unbiased in all areas except for the
company's "best interests." In other words: TO THEM, YOU REALLY
DON'T MATTER.
The Great American Dream is gone. Official U.S. government
reports indicate that more than 3.5 million jobs have been
eliminated in the past 10 years - including over 2000 jobs per
day last year alone - and an estimated 55% of all jobs created
in the next 10 years will be near minimum wage in stores,
restaurants, and bars. 90% of all the people in North America
earn less than $40,000 a year and today's two-income family are
not living as well as their parents did. So what is the
alternative to the to the Great American Job? Richard Poe,
former senior editor for "Success Magazine," describes in his
recent book that a shift in thinking has resulted in over 14
million people working from home full-time, and another 13
million part-time. This number is increasing by almost 600,000
per year. And the average work from home income is $50,250 per
year, about twice the average income of wage earners working for
someone else. By the end of the decade over 44% of us will be
working from home.
Home based business wage earner's success rate is over 85%
compared with small businesses like retail shops and
restaurants, at about 95% failure rate after 5 years. Couple
that with the flexibility we have to change our schedules and
set our hours and then those of us who are parents are now
available when our children need us, plus we no longer have the
need for the "foster homes" we call day cares, where the
care-givers get to see all the "firsts" your child performs.
There's no wonder the number of people looking to work from home
has skyrocketed. This "New Era" of financial growth is largely
due to the latest technologies that are now available to those
who desire to work from home. Imagine what it would be like to
run an international operation if you so choose, right from the
comfort of your own home. Well, this is exactly what we offer!
We offer a "freedom" that is available through a constant flow
of income that does not depend on the whims of a boss, bonuses
or the economy.
Take a look at some of these statistics: At age 50, 75% of the
population has less than $5,000 in the bank for retirement. At
age 65, 45% of Americans depend on relatives, 30% depend on
charities, 23% are still working (most can't afford to quit and
work until they are no longer physically capable) and Only 2%
are self-sustaining. At the present time, it is impossible to
support a family of two working full time at minimum wage! For
the first time in history, the current generation is averaging a
lower standard of living then their parents! Automation is
taking layoffs to record highs!
The Bureau of Labor Statistics says that Out of 100 people that
start working at the age of 25, by the age of 65... - 1 is
wealthy - 4 have enough money to retire - 63 depend on social
security or charity - 29 are deceased 95% of people, age 65 and
over cannot afford to retire and work until they die!! What
Happened to Safety & Security? Why we no longer put our trust &
faith in "Big Business". In J. Paul Getty's book "How To Get
Rich", his first rule for success is, "You must be in business
for yourself. You will never get rich working for someone else."
This partly explains why someone starts a new home-based
business in the United States every 10 seconds. In the past 14
years alone, the numbers of home-based businesses have grown
from 6 million to 32 million with no slow - down in sight. In
fact, an estimated 8,493 new home businesses open every day.
The United States is now driven by an information and service
economy. Over the past decade, Fortune 500 companies have laid
off 4.4 million workers while smaller companies steadily
continue to reduce their work forces. As companies continue to
downsize and re-organize, many professionals will seek out and
search for new ways to take control of their careers. Many of
these individuals have forsworn traditional "nine to five"
office jobs and are making their homes pay off in more ways than
one.
For the entrepreneur, home-based businesses have become the
bridge between work- crazed big cities and easy- paced
family-oriented small towns. Link Resources Corp. reports that
market research shows more than 29 million people run either
full-time or part-time businesses from their homes. People used
to believe that their livelihood depended on living in big
cities near big corporations. That is no longer true, thanks to
personal computers, increased phone services, fax machines, and
the Internet, it is no longer necessary to live in close
proximity to "Big Business". You can now operate that "Big
Business" right from your home office. Within the last five to
seven years, technology has been brought to an affordable level
so that almost everyone has an equal playing field in the
work-from-home industry. Check out these Statistics: 11% of
the US market is now on the Internet 1,092,000 new people get
Internet access each week, while approximately 38% of the US
adult population, or 68 million US citizens' currently use the
Internet, according to the fall 1999 Cyber Status reports from
Mediamark Research Inc. This is an increase of 49% from the
prior quarter, and this study only counts people who have used
the Internet in the last 30 days.
Ziff-Davis's Technology User Profile reported that there are 60
million PC's connected to the Internet in the US, but home PC's
still represent the lion's share of the market, with 68 million
consumers hooked up to the Internet. They predict that up to
$54 billion US dollars will change hands from business
transactions online by year 2001.
Most people are ready to do some sort of business online, they
just don't know where to start. This is why we are so
successful. We link-up our marketing techniques with something
people need, and most of all, something people want. If you add
strong work ethics, a powerful support system, along with
personal business coaching, you can't help but be successful. We
provide not only the vehicle that puts you on the road to
success, but we also provide the road map. All you have to do
is be teachable, have the desire for a better life and be
willing to change what you're doing now. 94% of home-based
business owners are happier running their own business versus
working for someone else. 92% recommend working from home to
others. 94% plan to still be running their own business in five
years. 20% of home entrepreneurs reported that their businesses
grossed between $100,000 and $500,000 last year. 23% paid
themselves annual salaries of $65,000 to $350,000. 41% work at
home with other family members. 71% think their businesses are
doing as well or better than they expected. 79% expect their
home-based business revenues to grow this year. Your search for
the ideal work environment and for the ideal vehicle to wealth
is over. You will be able to work more flexible hours while
increasing your productivity, not to mention drastically cutting
your commute time, and increasing your most precious
commodity-quality of life.
We have developed one of the most exciting, technologically
advanced home-based businesses that will take you through the
new millennium. We don't expect you to come to us with
tremendous business knowledge or a successful track record. We
have already figured out how to make this work; all you need to
do is copy what we're already doing.
Since you've gotten this far, we know you are serious about
working from home. Your next step will help you make some
changes and learn some new skills. So, let's go!
As you know, this is not a lay-on-the-couch, get-rich-quick
scheme. This is a REAL business and a real opportunity- one that
has drawn so much interest from people that we had to put this
screening process in place to help us determine who to work
with. Our company has been in business for 20 years, is publicly
held and traded on the NASDAQ. It is important that you realize
that we can help you build a powerful and profitable business.
We have an explosive, start to finish, proven Internet Marketing
system. And we are offering you this simple easy method where
you can make money working for yourself, over the Internet, from
the comfort of your home or office. You can earn $1,000 to
$7,000 per month working around your current job and your
family's schedule. Our system works regardless of your
background or computer knowledge. We provide the system,
experience and hands on training. The only thing that we cannot
give you, but is required is that you have the desire, and that
you are teachable. We know that you have some level of desire
because you got this far. Are you teachable?
STEP 1. You must call our toll free "International Internet
Business hotline and listen to some of the members of our team
talk about the success of their new home based businesses. EVEN
IF YOU ARE CALLING THIS NUMBER FROM AN INTERNATIONAL COUTRY, I
URGE YOU TO CALL RIGHT NOW. This is part of our job-to
introduce you to many others who took a step of faith (like
you're ready to), and whose lives have changed because of it.
This call is for everyone. I.E. former Military Service
Members, Executive Professionals and Laborers Doctors and Nurses
1-800-708-RICH and enter Access Code 5566. Also to Learn
about our industry and company dial 1-800-555-1795 and enter
Access Code 5566.
This10-minute calls is a 24-hour toll free for all that are in
the United States; however if you are International I urge you
to dial this number now and listen to this short message and
take some notes.
CAUTION! This Access Code expires on October 6th 2001
(So call right now!)
IMPORTANT!
DO NOT PROCEED TO STEP 2
UNTIL YOU HAVE LISTENED
TO THE CALL MENTIONED IN STEP 1
If you are unsure and need more information, we have put
together a "How to do business over the Internet" decision
package that will help you determine whether our business is for
you or not. This step is only for individuals who have the
desire to control their own future and who want to work from
their homes and earn the kind of income that will give you the
life you deserve. This decision package contains approximately
three hours of information about our explosive Internet business
and it also begins your training. You will receive a manual that
explains how, why and what we are doing, a video where you'll
meet us and see exactly how our business works and an audiotape
to further help you with your decision. Your package also
contains the name and telephone number of your personal coach
who will be working with you on a daily basis, helping you make
money in your first week. In other words, you will receive all
of the information you will need to make a decision to determine
if this is for you.
After you request your "International Decision Package", and go
through all the materials, we will call you and your personal
training program will begin. At that point, we will also be
happy to locate the nearest training to you, which are available
in numerous translations. We have training being conducted in
over 27 different languages worldwide! This package acts only
as a way for you to review information about our business and
begins your training without risk. This step eliminates the
people who are not serious and allows us to work with those of
you who are. Please recognize the importance of this step. We
simply do not have the time to spend with people who are merely
curious, which is why we designed this package to provide you
with all of the information you will need to make a decision and
determine if this is for you. If we spent our time answering
e-mail requests for additional information, we'd not only be
duplicating the effort we put into developing the decision
package, but we'd also be taking valuable time away from running
our business and training new people. Once you start working
with us, we're sure you will appreciate our spending time
training you instead of responding to curious e-mails all day
long.
Since we don't spend countless hours answering the tireless
questions of the curiosity-seekers, you benefit, because it
frees us up in order to dedicate ourselves to your success. When
we spend time with you, we know we are working with someone who,
like us, is committed to a better lifestyle. What is Your
Future Worth? Decide for yourself and for your family what it
is you want and by when you want to achieve it. Only you can
determine how dedicated you are to achieving your dreams.
Hopefully, you won't find yourself relying on your friends and
family for direction and salvation. They cannot provide that for
you - only you can do that. You need to make a decision to
either give this a shot or to continue down the path you're on.
Most likely, if you have read this far, you have already made
the decision to make some healthy changes in your life. When we
were looking at this "Work From Home" Opportunity for the first
time, just like you, we were nervous and thought that maybe this
wouldn't work. Like you, we doubted we could really achieve our
dreams. We went for it any way and now we are making incredible
incomes, working from home, and for most of us- it's a dream
come true. We don't have a boss to answer to or a clock to
punch.
All you need to do now is take action. Take action by ordering
your "Decision Package" and we'll be there to help you through
your questions and then to work with you to build your own "Work
>From Home" Internet Business. But please don't request more
information unless you are committed to improving your life. If
you are ready to learn and you are serious about achieving a
brighter future and a better life, then we are committed to you.
We are ready to give you the same step-by-step plan we used to
build our fortune. There will be no surprises. We know exactly
what to do and how to coach others be successful within the same
system. Our Program works. It's already happening for hundreds
of people. Why not you? Right now, take the next step, and get
started on your way to a brighter lifestyle.
STEP 2: To get started or request your decision package only
after you have completed STEP 1 please call our international 24
hour order hotline at 1-206-222-2826. International callers and
for United States, Canada, and Mexico callers please also dial
1-206-222-2826.
We are willing to train you and work with you, as others have
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TenDRA (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~patrykz/TenDRA/) also exists. The only thing I know about it is that it is included in Debian Woody. If anobody knows more, please reply :)
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... could someone please provide a brief history of what the watcom compiler is or does differently than other compilers, and why it's suited to making DOOM-type games where other compilers aren't?
The OpenWATCOM site wasn't terribly informative. Apparently, this is a big deal since it made Slashdot, but I guess I don't see the significance. Thanks!
The best part, is that while I was reading that there was an ad saying "How does your school measure up." Hilarious.
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lcc is great for learning about compiler design (that's why it was created), but it doesn't optimize very well
Then why does the Quake mod community prefer lcc to gcc?
Also, the since it's licensed under the restrictive GPL license, any programs it compiles contain GPL-licensed code
Not true. According to the GPL FAQ, a GNU General Public License on a compiler infects compiled code only if the compiler copies part of itself (or any other GPL code) into the output. Thus, code compiled with GCC doesn't fall under the GPL unless it #includes a GPL'd header file or links against a GPL'd library. Most most programs under GNU/Linux link against GNU libc licensed under Lesser GPL, which simply means link dynamically or provide the .o files.
You're probably thinking of Cygwin, whose default settings link all code to a GPL library, but Cygwin can also use the MinGW runtime that links only to libraries included with the Windows operating system.
Will I retire or break 10K?
What to do if you happen upon a peace rally by stupid naive hemp-shirt-wearing college idiots, to teach them why force is sometimes needed:
- 1. Approach dumb rich ignorant student talking about "peace" and saying
there should be, "no retaliation."
Repeat steps 5 through 8 until they understand that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.2. Engage in brief conversation, ask if military force is appropriate.
3. When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"
4. Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."
5. When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
6. When he gets back up to up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence."
7. Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.
8. Punch him in the face again, harder this time.
The later C++ product from Sybase, Optima++, was a very nicely designed IDE for C++. It would have been much more pleasant to use than Borland or MS if it had just worked a little better. But, it was at least ten times buggier than the competition. Some Sybase products are high quality, but the C++ products were a losing proposition to them and they never squandered what would have been required to make them at all competitive.
Let's see... I could donate to the Sept 11 Fund to help out the families of the Firemen who died while actually saveing people *OR* I could give to a group of unknowns who have done nothing but delivered vaporware.
Looks like the firemen win.
--Rob
The preceding is in error. The following is directly from the GPL FAQ [www.gnu.org]:
I use the C or C++ programming language, and I compile with GCC. Must I release software I write in the language under the same license as GCC?
That's not a gcc issue. In fact, it isn't even a bug. It's policy decision about when and how to grow the stack. How is the Linux kernel supposed to know when something is a stray pointer and when it is a reference to an unallocated part of the stack segment? It has to pick an arbitrary lower limit for the stack. The same thing happens with many compilers on many UNIX systems. If you read up on your documentation, you would know how to deal with this case.
Let it rest in peace.
Really?
Is that why office xp is so exellent and intuitive and open office is to shitty?
Is that why visual c++ is so neat and superb and gcc such a shitty compiler it's difficult to understand why anyone in it's own mind would use it?
No, no popups please! Popup windows are nasty and one of the top usability problems on the web.
Claus
The good old Borland C only allowed 16 bits segments. It was really lousy.
There was some hacks to avoid this. I wrote some assembly code to enable the flat mode (only one big linear page up to 2 Gb), and Borland C finally could access 32-bits segments. But the page was still 16-bits by default, so all 32-bits operations had to be prefixed.
I wrote some games and demos with this, but Borland's produced code was very bad. On a version of Borland C, while(1) was compiled as mov ax,1 then test ax, compare with zero and jump if 1 != 0. Awesome.
It's why I tried Watcom. Watcom's code was better. Moreover it had specific optimizations for 486 and Pentium-class processors. And with DOS4GW, it was easy to access 32 bits pages. However :
So Watcom was an excellent compiler, but it was really, really buggy. I always had to review the assembly code by hand. But I liked the fact that "char" was unsigned by default.
Then, I tried DJGPP. DJGPP is a port of GCC to DOS platforms. It cames with a free DOS4GW-like called PMode.
The resulting code wasn't that bad. For floating-point arithmetic, GCC produced slower code than Watcom (can't remember why, maybe GCC didn't use the arithmetic coprocessor). But it didn't matter, demos always use fixed-point anyway.
GCC didn't produce buggy code like Watcom. And the code was...logical. Have a look at Ping for instance. It's a smooth pong-like game with carebears, bonuses, funny sounds, etc. I wrote that game with DJGPP, but if you look at the source code, you'll see that it looks a lot a assembly code. It's designed in a way that the compiler can translate one line of C in one line of assembler, and everything is pre-optimized. GCC respected this. I tried to recompile important parts of the code (sprite routines) with Watcom. The result was illogical. It tried to reorder some stuff, but this only gave slower code.
The first releases of PMode were buggy, too. They worked very bad with Qemm. But then, it got better and finally was an excellent drop-in replacement for DOS4GW. But once and again, allocating a big page was faster than multiple pages.
Why Watcom was cool : fast compiler (gcc was sooo sllooowww to compile), good optimizations for floating-point operations.
Why DJGPP was better : free, comes with emulation of many Unix system calls, gives optimized code if the source code is already optimized. And GNU-assembler syntax is way better than TASM-like syntax.
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All, Just remember also that at one time the only supported compiler by Novell's SDK for developing NLMs/VLMs for the server environment before they introduced the Java VM was Watcom. Respect to them for attempting to make it open source, I remember as a student that your could get the Novell SDk for not alot of cash (as is the way now) but the Watcom compiler cost alot so work was limited to working on college computers. Rgds Ollie
You can find the history of it here. Wow, reading that you realize how cool things are thanks to the FSF.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
.. were
... inline assembly "
1) being able to write highly optmized inline assembly right in C.
#pragma aux funcname =
"
[used] [in] [out]
and specificy WHICH registers were
a) used (modified)
b) passed as input
c) passed as output
Microsoft C, Turbo/Borland C, would disable all optimizations for a funcion if you had any inline assembely in it.
2) The other neat feature was to install
a) VGA card, and
b) Hercules Mono Card
Then you could source debug *graphics* programs running on the VGA card via the monochrome card. Was REAL handy for debugging ModeX games. (Note: Borland/Turbo did have this feature as well. I don't know about the Microsoft compilers.)
3) Oh yeah, being able to do malloc(1000000) was darn cool. No more messing with near/far pointers or stupid 20-bit segmented memory.
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Has anybody tried actually compiling a kernel with Watcom? Does it compile? If so, how does the resultant code compare with old faithful?
I know there are some really cool optimization techniques that the gcc authours would love to use, but are covered by patents. A kernel compile would be an interesting side by side comparison of the generated code quality.
Since I am not a kernel, I don't worry too much about compile time, as long as it finishes sometime within the hour on a 1 GHz machine.
My rights don't need management.
I used it myself, like many others did. It was not good, it was not great, it was plain awesome!!
Okay, so I read that this is a binary patch for previous users but the install routine implies that it's just "harder" to do anything with it, not impossible for those of us who are Watcom-less. So, is it possible to use this to do anything if you're starting from scratch?
Oh, and I'm more interested in the FORTRAN component of all this - don't ask me why...
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If you're interested in DOS and Windows development, you can also try the free (as in beer) Digital Mars compiler.
Okay, I'm going to get blasted for this but... I'm interested to see what their Fortran compiler can do. I'm not exactly a huge fan of Fortran, but the language does have it's place (just like 'ed'). In college I took a Fortran class, and the guy teaching it didn't care what we used as long as it compiled Fortran code. Instead of paying for some Fortran compiler - [sarcasm] which I'm sure I'd use every day after I took the class [/sarcasm], I opted to use the Linux alternative. Looking through the man page for g77 I found that this thing somehow routes the Fortran code through gcc to create an executable. Well I made a "hello world" program and looked inside the directory... Over 100k for hello world?!? I mean this is irony here, Fortran is the first "language" after assembly created in the 50's... like they made 100k programs back then? I never benchmarked anything, but I can imagine that the results would be less than spectacular. Well I somehow doubt I'll do anymore Fortran, but it would be nice to see something a little better than g77 show up for Linux. Maybe it'll make some old crusty engineers happy too.
Ever since the DOS days, Watcom has been one of my favorite vendors. Thier compiler produces excellent i386 code.
.02 worth
I, for one, wouldn't have any problem paying for thier products for my Linux endeavors. Furthermore, I hope to submite some of my own little improvements for review over time.(Like perhaps backend support for the GNU Ada compiler.)
Anyways, if Watcom isn't too Anal about working with the Open Source and Free Software communities, we could really take this software a long way.
I would also encourage people to actually purchase thier product also. They really are worth it.
My
McDoobie
OTOH, it can't be worse than gcc ;-)
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
Watcom always beated every other C/C++ compiler out there. I remember being a big fan of their _lovely_ compiler; I used it to do some real time automatic control and it rocked.
If they manage to release a modern, up to date version of their IDE, I will be glad.
(btw, I remember in the IDE having a "Pentium" optimization flag... when the Pentium wasn't even released! Now that's efficiency
If memory serves, WatFor came from the University of Waterloo (Canada, not Belgium). The people who wrote it later went private and formed Watcom. Early 70s, I think.
You youngins don't know how good you have it!
I know. I am doomed. I am working in a free compiler project, and heared about my immediate demise in Slashdot, one year ago. I am working in the lcc-win32 free compiler system for windows, and I have read here a YEAR ago the same promise from watcom.
Well, waiting for my fierce competitor in the free compilers arena, I invite you all to use a really free compiler (C compiler)
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~lcc-win32.
How does the Portland Group compilers fare in the current compiler market?
-Paul Komarek
> Really?
Yes really.
> Is that why office xp is so exellent and intuitive and open office is to shitty?
No, Microsoft's office software has years of programming behind it, plus they have the backing of the OS itself (better integration and taking advantage of OS features).
> Is that why visual c++ is so neat and superb and gcc such a shitty compiler it's difficult to understand why anyone in it's own mind would use it?
Visual C++ is an IDE not a compiler, have you even used micrsofts compiler with out an IDE? I have and its no diffrent then GCC. Not unless you like comparing apples and oranges.
disclaimer : My views do not represent those of every one else in slashdot.
Syndicate Wars had one of the coolest openings ever made
Even cooler than Zero Wing?
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
Have a look at Ping [claranet.fr] for instance. It's a smooth pong-like game with carebears, bonuses, funny sounds, etc
IE/Windows users might want to avoid clicking this link. It contains a script that deletes an email from your inbox. It won't effect you if your machine is secure, but there's better ways of finding that out...
I piss on Mecca. I spit on the Koran. I shit on Mohammed.
The point, for those of you too dull to figure it out: If this were Microsoft asking for payment up front for a future piece of software that may or may not actually ever ship, all of the Slashdotters would be screaming bloody murder. But because these folks aren't a big corporation it's OK for them to scam people out of donations.
The whole mention to the WTC was solely to point out the contrast between giving a donation towards things that have actually happened, versus panhandleing on the promise that something good may happen in the future.
If I'm not misreading things, all of the developers working on the alleged future release are all under a NCA with Sybase. Sybase hasn't opened up the source yet under a license yet. So Sybase could decide to take their ball home and all of us wouldn't be able to play with it.
Now why you ask would Sybase seek to abuse Open Source Developers? Fine, let me throw up a hypothetical situation:
Sybase bought Watcom not for their compilers, but for their other products. Fine, so they can ditch the compilers, right? Wrong. Because all of Watcom's *other* products are built using the compiler. If they can't build their SQL product, they can't sell it.
So Sybase needs to have the compiler maintained, maybe some bugfixes, maybe they want that Linux port so they can migrate their products to Linux. But they don't want to pay for the development... What to do... What to do... I know! We'll lure some Open Source developers in to do the work... we'll put them under NCA so that they can't compete with us when it's done and we'll have them do the hard lifting. Once it's done, we tell them that the lawyers won't let us open source it (you know... all those other people's source code... *we'd* open source it if we could) and then we'll have our SQL product supported and we might even have a Linux compiler we can sell further on down the road.
--Rob
Fort older code, "install GCC" simply mean "don't use the braindamaged pre-ANSI C compiler bundled with the system."
It does work with folowing compilers:
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