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Songfile (lyrics.ch) Trails Off

dave256 writes: "I was recently wandering about looking for some lyrics and CD track listings, and going to my good old standby, lyrics.ch (and summarily suffering through the redirection to songfile), I noticed a notice:'On September 30, 2001, the International Lyrics Server website will be closed and all lyrics will be removed from the Songfile web site. Thank you for your support, and we appreciate your past patronage. Please direct any questions or inquiries regarding this change to lyrics@harryfox.com.' Who was this masked harryfox.com? Boy was I (not) surprised. I for one will miss the old beast." The lyrics.ch site has survived some tough times before, so perhaps this isn't really its end.

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  1. Who needs lyrics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    when we have Cylob!

  2. Troll Alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Catch that goblin!

  3. hey you.. get on with your life by funky49 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    You have a right to dwell in the past, but please do not inflict this insanity on others.

    It's not Tuesday morning anymore. It's not Tuesday afternoon anymore. Thank God its not Thursday because I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

    steve

    --
    --- rapper/producer/bachelorette party stripper
    1. Re:hey you.. get on with your life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You have been trolled.

  4. Trolls by HalfFlat · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I never really understood the attraction of trolling. Why do it? Karma points to burn? Just like getting people worked up?

    For the record, the use of such loaded terms as "stealing" and "piracy" to describe copyright violation doesn't help anyone. Let's move on from there, so that we can actually have rational, informed debate.

    1. Re:Trolls by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      You probably don't understand because you don't have a penis. Here, have a penis bird instead:

      ,o
      `x
      8=D

      --
      The real thing. Accept no substitute!

    2. Re:Trolls by codeforprofit2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Well, it is stealing so whats wrong with saying that?

    3. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Has it ever occured to you that your stated preference for "rational, informed debate" might be the reason you have no friends? It's just...from where I'm sitting, you sound like a loudmouthed bore.

    4. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Wait a second. You want a rational debate, but you aren't willing to listen to anyone else's point of view? Yeah, that isn't self-contradictory.

    5. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      This is HalfFlat, posting anonymously so as not to force all those reading at +1 to sit through this.

      There's a difference between debate and rational debate. I'm willing to listen to other people's point of view, but if I'm after rational debate, I don't have to respect it if that view is presented with rhetoric instead of logic, or especially if it's merely inflammatory.

      Just as there is a difference between thinking and critical thinking, argument and logical argument, one can make a distinction between debate and rational debate.

      If you want entertainment, then maybe rational isn't for you. If you actually want to get anywhere, you might consider the benefits of thinking critically.

    6. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      If I stole your car, would you dislike it because:

      A) You lost your car.
      B) I got a car for free

      Most copyright violations only involves B), the copyright holder loses nothing unless I specifically chose to obtain a free copy instead of paying for it. (Not when I get a free copy instead of nothing at all).

    7. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      nice troll, the classic "of course I'm not a troll" approach

    8. Re:Trolls by codeforprofit2 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I would dislike it because I have to work another two years to buy a new one.

      Same thing here.

      I certainyl don't think the copyright holders dislike that you get something for free, they dislike that you erade THEIR income.

    9. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Look, just take "Troll" out of the equation. From where I sit, the post of a blithering, drooling imbecile and the post of a troll, proclaimed as such or otherwise, are no different. Each is done with a caustic, stinging tone and with catastrophic indifference to matters of fact.

      A misinformed, ignorant imbecile may or may not know that he's going to get a dozen or more angry replies. A troll designs his post with that specifically in mind. But from our perspective, it's impossible to tell the intent of the poster. If a post is idiotic, I refuse to respond to it with anything but "you're an idiot." There's nothing to be gained from debating an idiot, because they are insensible to informed or intelligent debate. There's nothing to be gained from debating a troll, because all he wanted to get was your goat. Giving it to him is just playing his stoopid game.

    10. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Now if only the copyright owners were actually the people creating the music, your argument might be valid, but these people are just riding on the shoulders of giants.

    11. Re:Trolls by guhknew · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Who says that by downloading the lyrics you didn't already buy the CD?

    12. Re:Trolls by martyn+s · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I'm not saying it's a legitimate argument or not, but have you considered the possibility the "THEIR income" is money that they didn't deserve. When incomes are being protected by legal measures, we should consider whether those legal measures are valid. In Sodom, as the story goes, if someone punched you hard enough to make you bleed, you'd have to pay him for the service of bloodletting. Sure, it's an extreme example, but you should be aware that what we have arbitrary measures (not natural, unregulated) deciding who pays whom for what, then it's not so simple as saying that he is stealing THEIR income. Basically he is arguing against the law which makes them get anything at all for their lyrics (I can't even imagine how).



      And just because anyone can publish the lyrics does not mean that anyone can perform them. It just seems very bizarre to think that you can't publish lyrics.

    13. Re:Trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Personally I learned the "of course i'm not a troll" approach from CNN.
      Ahhh those marvelous trollers (without a penis)

  5. Re:Let me get this straight... by F452 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yes. It was an awful horrible thing that happened in New York and Washington.

    So: When will it be ok to talk about ordinary day-to-day things?

  6. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    600= dead people? Who really gives a flying fuck?

    More people than that died yesterday, too, and a whole hell of a lot of them died in similarly wasteful, horrid ways.

    If I stopped to give a fuck everytime people died in a "senseless tragedy", I'd have run out of fucks a long time ago.

  7. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    As soon as you morons realize that the parent post has been posted, repeatedly, for the past 3 weeks and is successful in trolling for morons posting moronic comments every...single...time.

  8. Re:Let me get this straight... by funky49 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    According to some people.. never. Let's lament about death forever and never ever have fun or good times again!

    --
    --- rapper/producer/bachelorette party stripper
  9. Re:Let me get this straight... by F452 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sorry. I don't read every comment in every story and this is the first time I've come across this post. I didn't know. Please forgive my moronity.

  10. Don't let by Gonoff · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    the scumbags change what we do!
    If the terrorists leaders that commited those crimes on 11 September find out that they are the only topic of conversation on the internet, it will make them feel pleased.
    Do everything you did before, or they have changed our lives for the worse. Think about music, software, freedom, s*x, movies and anything that makes you happy. There are 6,000 casualties in the WTC. You are not one so make sure that you NEVER give in to the filth that caused them!

    --
    I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
  11. Re:fp by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I agree. Would you like a penis bird?

    ,o
    `x
    8=D

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

  12. WTC Attack: by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    The ultimate troll. I salute you with a penis bird:

    ,o
    `x
    8=D

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

  13. Good and bad news... by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I'm afraid not. However, the good news is that th e penis bird is GPL'ed. Here, have your free penis bird: (Free as in libre.)

    ,o
    `x
    8=D

    (c) 2001 Penis, released under the LGPL. Share the fun around!

    P.S. To the censorship cabal: You cannot censor me. I know you hate me, I know that you block access for my accounts and my IP's, but guess what: You cannot censor me! The truth is always the truth, no matter how many database hacks you have on your side. If there is one thing you should have learned from 09.11 is that the higher the pedestal, the tougher the fall. Slashdot, prepare for the fall. Judgement day is not far. You have been warned.

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

  14. Re:You moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    shut up.
    i wanted to get one in.
    i don't see you getting one.
    faggot.

  15. Falling on deaf ears, I'm afraid. by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The problem is that even though Americans are shocked and horrified, they haven't had their wakeup call yet. I guess it will take a bacteriological or nuclear disaster to open their eyes. :( It is truly sad that the only way to get through an American's thick skin is through horrible violence. Like it or not, but the American culture and society is a phenomenon in itself, equally apart from both European and Asian heritage. Truly, violence is as American as apple pie. It's also sad that the U.S. government tries to straightjacket American society into a European model of democracy -- this is why American society seems so schizophrenic at times. In a way, the American people are as oppressed as the worst of African colonial powers.

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

    1. Re:Falling on deaf ears, I'm afraid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Idiot or troll? You decide.

      Unfortunately, Mr. Penis, you're not a very good troll. Good trolls (whom I still don't respect) are people who can disguise the idiocy of their post and get really good debaters to come out of the woodwork and "feed" them. Bad trolls, or idiots (between which there are no distinguishing characteristics) just post stuff that differs from outright flamebait only because it's usually spelled right and has some semblance of grammar and sentence structure, but is still so plainly ignorant or wrong that hot-headed readers have no choice but to respond.

      And, again if you didn't mean for this to be a troll, what can I say?

    2. Re:Falling on deaf ears, I'm afraid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      (c) Penis is NOT A TROLL. What makes you wonder?

  16. Re:You moron. by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Yes, that was certainly gay of him. Here, have a penis:

    8=D

    Cute, isn't it? :))

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

  17. Some rational advice. by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dude, get a penis. Get laid. Shit, go to the john right now and do some wanking. The thing is, you obviously have all the signs of spermotoxicosis. Don't punish yourself so.

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

  18. Re:When good muslims go bad.. by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Penis bird, the Taco edition:

    ,o
    `x
    ( * )

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

  19. Free (libre) tips: by (c)+Penis · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Send them this wonderful GPL'ed ASCII graphic:

    8==B ( * )
    8==B* )
    8==* )
    8=* )

    P.S. Ouch!!

    --
    The real thing. Accept no substitute!

    1. Re:Free (libre) tips: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


      |-----[Harry Fox agency]
      v
      8==B ( * )
      ^
      |---[Lyrics.ch]

  20. Re:When good muslims go bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Change #7 to "Kill all Carpet Pilots". Having two camel-based slurs just isn't classy.

  21. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    8 times more people than normal die in NYC and its the end of the world. There have been three day weekends in the last decade with more deaths in the area.

  22. Re:Hints for dealing with pacifists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Step 9. Enjoy the ride to court to plead guilty to ABH, enjoy having the handcuffs put on you, and love it when your cellmate 'Bubba' wants to play 'Husband and Wife' with you.

  23. WHOOP WHOOP! DMCA VIOLATION! WHOOP WHOOP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I hope you realise that you have just publically admitted to a blatant violation of the DMCA. The black gunships are already on their way to collect you and bring you to justice.

  24. Oh, and by the way... by ackthpt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What IS it with music stores and blaring music, anyway? I go the the malls and the CD shops always have something blasting away, and if I had a song in mind I'll probably have it blasted rightout of my head by whatever they're listening to (which I have about a 0.0000001% chance of buying because it's usually something awful), always seemed to me that blasting customers with music was counterproductive. Maybe why I by CD's at the Book/Music store. :)

    --

    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  25. How to treat a knee-jerk reaction injury by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    What to do when your countryman has lashed out at the wrong people in retaliation
    1. Discredit his jingoistic nationalism in public as often as possible.

    2. Spend thirty years waiting for the generation upon which you inflicted the atrocity to die of old age.

    3. Apologize to their descendants.

    4. Hope that they think you're sincere.

    5. Groan in embarrassment as jingoistic nationalism goes on the rise again.

    Repeat steps 1-5 for every generation that forgets them.

  26. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    As long as I live a will always remember the WTC.
    And in my next life i shall have deja-vus about it.

    I DON'T FORGET. NEVER WILL I FORGET.

    People should definatelly get their priorities in an order first.

  27. Re:Let me get this straight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    WTC? Whats that?

    And what was that place in San Antonio called again?

    So many names, hard to remember them all...

  28. Re:Open Source Lyrics.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Here's the GPL Ballad. These lyrics are released under the GPL, copyright 2001.

    Linus and RMS
    and all the rest
    Are all the best

    I love you
    I love you
    I love you
    You're the ones I love
    (repeat)

    ---
    Please feel free to redistribute, compile, make derivative works of, or perform this song as long as the terms of the original license are followed.