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Virginia Tech Uses Computerized Knee Brace for Rehab

jimCATDOG writes: "College running back Lee Suggs was injured in VT's first football game, requiring knee surgery and the rest of the season off. VT cares about having the Big East's most prolific scorer healthy. The cool part is that they are using a computerized knee brace to help bring him back to full speed." As the tools available to medical rehabilition improve, what other advances can we expect in the near future?

78 comments

  1. here i go then... by motherhead · · Score: 2

    someone is going to it, so i will get it out of the way. will it make me "better, stronger, faster?" does it cost $6,000,000? when i jump will it go neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh neh? can i work for oscar goldman when it's all over? thanks, good night everyone.

    1. Re:here i go then... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      "Gentlemen, we CAN rebuild him. We have the technology."

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  2. oh i get it. by motherhead · · Score: 0, Troll

    it's a computerized knee brace... that's why it belongs on slashdot...

  3. Recovery after torn ACL by Spootnik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't be in a hurry, this will take time. How long depends on what kind of surgery you need. Orthoscopic is the least damaging, but any surgery pretty much knocks out your quads and weakens your calf for many weeks. Age and physical condition going into surgery should make a difference. I was 38 when I had mine, and had been riding only about 80 miles/week prior to the injury (I was a grad student, not racing, but riding for fitness). In my twenties I was a cat 2, training about 300 miles per week. So although I didn't return to racing following surgery, my experience may at least give you some idea what you're in for.

    After a crash on campus (slipped on an oil patch), I had orthroscopic surgery on my right knee for what the surgeon thought was a torn ACL.. Turned out the ACL was intact, but there was meniscus damage and "a lot of junk and blood in there" that needed to be cleaned up, said the surgeon. I was on crutches for about a week. I used a knee brace for about 9 weeks, during which I was doing physical therapy that included electro-stimulus, stretching, weights, stationary bike, and work with a computerized resistance machine. I was using a turbo trainer 3x a week after two weeks, and was doing short road rides after about a month. Still, even with continued physical therapy and riding, it was a good 3 months before my knee was feeling stable enough, and my quads strong enough, for extended out of the saddle efforts. (I should mention I was off the bike between week 10 and 13 while doing field work in Panama, during which I was hiking up and down hills in the rainforest, so I was still getting a work out.) After 6 months, my leg felt about 85% recovered. 90% after 8 mos. 100% at 12 mos.

    If you're younger and have been training, you'll probably recover faster. But my guess is it will still take months to get back to pre-surgery form.

    1. Re:Recovery after torn ACL by tconnors · · Score: 2, Funny
      Turned out the ACL was intact, but there was meniscus damage and "a lot of junk and blood in there" that needed to be cleaned up, said the surgeon. I was on crutches for about a week.



      Why would blood ever get in your access control lists?

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    2. Re:Recovery after torn ACL by NMerriam · · Score: 2

      Why would blood ever get in your access control lists?

      He's VERY strict about training users....

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    3. Re:Recovery after torn ACL by Bill+the+Cat · · Score: 1

      This sounds so similar to my experience, except I wasn't in as good of shape going into my surgery.

    4. Re:Recovery after torn ACL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mans a troll, gang. He obviously just cut and pasted this message from some bicycling message board to see if he could sucker anyone into modding him up. I bet he doesn't even know what "Cat 2" means.

  4. Re:Get some PRIORITIES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet you still take time to read it, troll.

    You use "it" here to refer to...?

  5. Sensible policies for a happier U.S.A! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Who cares about some jocks who busted his knee?

    Put all that money into developing braces for wrists, instead. Carpal tunnel syndrome is not fun.

    1. Re:Sensible policies for a happier U.S.A! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I kind of agree. I could live happily without my legs, but losing my sight or the use of my fingers would be a total disaster.

  6. Re:Get some PRIORITIES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    some of us use sports as a 'healthy' escape from things.

  7. Re:Get some PRIORITIES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A guy busted his knee! Doesn't sound healthy to me.

    I've always avoided sports and while my sport-fanatic friends have constantly some part of their body broken, I've never had such health problems in my life.

    Goddamn, I even hate sweating.

  8. Re:Get some PRIORITIES by D+Anderson+n'Swaart · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sheesh, how long are trolls gonna milk this for? You know, after about six weeks it's gonna start sounding pretty stupid. Not that it doesn't already. And I'm curious; where did you get the 50,000+ casualty figure from? Last I checked it was ~7,000. Of course, I'm just a sheep-shagging New Zealander.

  9. More info about the brace by SiliconJesus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I found a link to another description of the brace here. It seems like a pretty cool little toy for doing this sort of rehab. I'd much rather have this than a woman yelling at my face that I can lift my leg, I just have to try harder.

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  10. Better Link by SiliconJesus · · Score: 1

    Here is the official link to donjoy's webpage regarding the product.

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  11. Off topic but... by NatePWIII · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Take a look at this:

    Slashdot.info

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  12. Virginia Tech by Ace905 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I seriously doubt Virginia Tech... umm.. ... er

    Eggplants!

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  13. Hell, I remember 6 weeks of being told by a pencil-necked geek that I wasn't trying hard enough when I wasn't strong enough to pick up a tennis ball after a shoulder scope. This would be much more pleasant. You could heap your psychological trauma and pent up hate on a machine. That makes it all better.


    Anyhoo, VPI plays in a weak conference with only one decent team other than themselves so missing Mr. Suggs shouldn't be too bad. I say we line the Chokies up in Bristol agin them Vols and let them see what a real football team is like.

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    1. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhhh, get your facts straight. VT was more than happy to play the Vols at Bristol Motor Speedway in front of 150k, which would've been the largest crowd to ever see a college football game.

      Too bad the Vols were skirts and decided to back out of the game.

    2. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes.

      doh, vols lost to the bulldogs. fuck. oh well you could tell tn wasn't going to really be that great this year - but fuck virginia tech.

    3. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hehe. At least Virginia Tech is good for something. ;) Go Wahoos!

    4. Re:Hmph by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

      Not true. A complete SW Vehjenya/East TN urban legend. The game was never proposed other than in the media. My old roommate works for UT's athletics doing, of all things, scheduling. Besides, it would have to be a Virginia Tech home game, cuz there is an in-house rule that the Vols can only play at Neyland Stadium for home games. Anyhow, those 150,000 would be 110,000 Vol fans. VPI plays in a Band Box. CHOKIES!

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    5. Re:Hmph by vt_milhouse · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it must really suck to lose to an unranked team. Maybe you should have waited to see what your "Real" team is capable of.

      Sorry to hear about your loss, but thanks for your spot in the AP poll.

    6. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My roommate's sister's brother's cousin knew someone used to date this guy who worked in the UT athletic office.

      At any rate, we can just lump UT along with Michigan, PSU, and Notre Lame as teams who are
      afraid of VT.

      As someone else mentioned at least the Chokies didn't lose today.

    7. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeh, them Vols looked *REAL* good today!

      Go Vols!!

      -Scott ( Va Tech '99 )

    8. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what conference do the chokies play in? EXACTLY. come to the SEC and see wtf is up dumbass.

    9. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      September 1 Connecticut W 52-10 1-0 (0-0 Big East)
      September 8 Western Michigan W 31-0 2-0 (0-0 Big East)
      September 22 at Rutgers W 50-0 3-0 (1-0 Big East)
      September 29 Central Florida W 46-14 4-0 (1-0 Big East)
      October 6 at West Virginia W 35-0 5-0 (2-0 Big East)
      October 13 Boston College 6:30 PM ET -
      October 27 Syracuse TBA -
      November 3 at Pittsburgh TBA -
      November 10 at Temple TBA -
      November 17 at Virginia TBA -
      December 1 No. 1 Miami Fla 1:00 PM ET -

      looks like you have to wait until the end of the season to actually PLAY a ranked team (and lose obviously). ut and the sec owns you. get the fuck over it.

    10. Re:Hmph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe if they had the weakass schedule va tech has every year they could beat up on extremely shitty teams, inflate their records to move up in the standings, then get their ass kicked by miami at the end of the season.

    11. Re:Hmph by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

      Whatever. National Champs 1951, 1998. VT won a a National Championship in, well, let's see, nothing in recent memory. UT is the best college sports program in the nation (men and women combined). And we invented SNMP (well, Jeff Case did.) UT isn't afraid of anybody (look at the current schedule) and they are in the SEC. We play Florida, Bama, and Ga. every year. VT plays Rutgers, Temple, BC, etc. Yawn. Most of those barely rate a Div I ranking other than the fact that their facilities require it.

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  14. of course ... by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    My first impression from the Slash Lead in was that it was motorized, etc. but that is not quite right.

    It is not motorized as such. It does limit physical motion to prevent injury.

    Otherwise, it is basically a fancy peripheral to a monitor which collects appropriate bio data.

    Very useful for rehab, of course, but surprising that someone hadn't come up with something like this before? Or has this been around, and we just never noticed?

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  15. Re:Please make it stop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Make that "Stop War!" and I'll agree with you.

    Trashing all the world's militaries and weapon's industries would be a good start. You can't have wars without armies and weapons, now can you?

  16. Future by manon · · Score: 1

    This is nice stuff, but I'm just waiting for that computerized brain stimulator...

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  17. Gooooooooooo Hokies! by kyoko21 · · Score: 1

    Well, I guess I am the first Hokie here to write something. But hey, even if the story is about some Jock, I have to say Lee Suggs is still pretty cool, and I did graduate from VT.

    Back in the day when it was told that it couldn't be done, we did it and ended up at the Sugarbowl. Too bad the end results were not as well as we had hoped them to be.

    But we are still a contender no matter what conference we play as long as we play to the best of our ability and just keep on trucking down the road to BCS!!!

    I wonder if there will be any other hokies posting after I....

    GOOOO HOKIES!!!!!

  18. Re:Gooooooooooo Hokies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lets go hokies

  19. Not just for Recovery.. by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This would be a great motivator for workouts, and probably is if anyone is up on exercise trainers. In terms of feedback while working through a set pattern it reminds me of Don Bluth's Dragon's Lair, not much more sophisticated than that and motion sensors, if you think about it.

    As far as actual healing, football has done much for patients of knee problems, as teams and athletes alike are determined to keep valuable players in the game, where a torn ligament decades ago was a career ending injury.

    Currently I'm planning to have some knee work done, due to calcification of the anterior of the patella (I put my knee through ice at 11 and created microfractures which healed like sand paper, can hurt like the dickens) something like what Suggs is outfitted with might assist in my recovery program, but it still doesn't cause it to heal faster or tell where healing is at, that's still up to mother nature.

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  20. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could have used one of these when I broke my elbow.... As another poster said, it would have been mich better than paying someone to tell you are not trying hard enough... also you could set goals and see when you meet them.

  21. GOD FUCKING DAMNIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    will someone PLEASE suck my god damn motherfucking cock?

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  22. Re:The Sexual Rage behind Islamic Terrorism by mdurham · · Score: 1

    Well, that explains the knee injury. But what does this have to do with my Everquest addiction?

  23. Worked Well by sinco · · Score: 1

    In the summer I tore my ACL playing football on turf. After surgery, I got the brace with the DonJoy Vista Rehab Management System. It comes with a little handheld computer that instructs your rehab activity. The brace really helped me out in recovering. My therapist would program specific actives, which she set goals for each, so I could do them when I wasn't at their complex. The brace measured the degree you would bend your leg, and you would have to reach a certain goal, in degrees, given by your therapist. The handheld computer records your information and then makes it so your therapist can read what you have accomplished; making it so you can't lie about doing exercises, and also helping the therapist know where you are in their program. The only thing I didn't like about the brace was I thought it was a bit bulky compared to the other braces I could have got, but I still thought it was worth it.

  24. OT: Biking by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

    had been riding only about 80 miles/week prior to the injury (I was a grad student, not racing, but riding for fitness).

    I have a question about something related to biking that I've never understood. What, for god's sake, is up with those biking outfits? Do those people who wear more ads than a Nascar driver really think it makes them look cool? Biking has by FAR the most ridiculous looking gear of any sport. Even golf plus-fours look better than bright yellow ass-huggers with some French company plastered on the butt.

    I'll bet the bike clothing industry chortles at every industry report about how much they make in advertising revenue. I wouldn't be surprised if they spent massive dollars to somehow convince people that wearing advertising is somehow hip.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering this. If you can shed any light on the subject, please give us the straight scoop.

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  25. Re:Gooooooooooo Hokies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's go Wahoos! ph34r us. ;^)

    Heck, I'm at The University right now. What else did you think I was going to say?

    I do have to admit, however, that that is a really cool step forward in implementing bio-computer interfaces. Too bad it had to come from Virginia Tech... (j/k)

  26. Security? by gimmie_prozac · · Score: 1

    I hope they've got good security. I'd hate for Lee not to be able to bend his leg beacase his knee brace got hit with a DoS attack from a rival school...

  27. Names... by psych031337 · · Score: 1

    Lee Suggs, huh? Sound worse than Dick Trickle to me...

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  28. Bah! For pro sports athletes maybe.. by sudog · · Score: 1

    I was never impressed by this kind of story. The costs involved are enough to keep these treatments out of the hands of the general populace and always have been--techniques such as rebuilding cartilage, specialized arthroscopy, and now computerized knee-braces are not for anyone but the ultra-rich and those who can afford to see private sports-medicine practitioners.

    It's like we're in the middle of one of the things Tyler Durden in Fight Club complained about: We've all been raised to believe we can be movie stars, or presidents, or super-rich businessmen, or wealthy enough to afford care like this.

    But we won't, and we can't.

    Makes me sick to read your crappy stories about how some super-overpaid jock gets the best care in the world, while the rest of us suffer our destroyed knees without that kind of medical attention. Jerks!

    1. Re:Bah! For pro sports athletes maybe.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can bitch all you want, fuckhead. Virginia tech is a college, last time I checked NCAA players don't make money. They may get some 'benefits' but they don't make any money. fucknuts.

    2. Re:Bah! For pro sports athletes maybe.. by sinco · · Score: 1

      My insurance (Blue Cross Blue Shield) paid for my computerized knee brace.

  29. Wait a minute... WTF?? by D3r1v3D · · Score: 1

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but... didn't Lee play in today's game where WV was thrashed? Now that must be one hell of a leg brace to allow him to play in a game this soon after surgery. WTF?? Do they have a Beowulf cluster of high-end PCs running nonstop regenerative tissue algorithms and mapping nerve ends? I tell you what they need to do- bring back the Power Glove for the NES ('member those??) for people who lost hands in thresher mishaps. Impress your friends and family as you pen the great American novel while at the same time fighting the nefarious forces of the Red Falcon!

    1. Re:Wait a minute... WTF?? by AppyPappy · · Score: 1

      No. Lee did not play in the WVU game.

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  30. Virginia Tech Injects Rehab Nanobots into Knee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Virginia Tech thought they were injecting rehabilitation nanobots into a patient's knee they forgot to use the latest nanobot software patch released by nanomicrosoft which resulted in the nanobots eating the patient's entire leg.